Sugar Daddy & Other Related Websites

[QUOTE=Koolbeans;5068542]Thanks for all of your advice! We should have a SD sticky. I spent way too much of my free time shotgun blasting messages asking if interested in meeting up. Some respond and are down, but like you said most don't respond. I put in my profile nothing platonic, no buying photos, and no scams. I guess I have to be more direct during my chat offline. Most say they are down to meet, but once you provide a SC or phone number to text to take it offline they ghost you. It is really strange, but maybe they are confused with other SD.[/QUOTE]To each their own, but your approach reads to me more like picking up a SW than courting a SB. If you are negotiating $ w / a POT you've never met, that is pretty much where you are. As I said, to each their own, but if you want a peak experience (a girl who isn't selling it to anyone who calls / emails / texts, who is as beautiful as any model or actress you've seen, and is a TRUE GFE), you won't get it your way.

[QUOTE=Btth9033;5069021]The one you said wants 500 is on HX quotes are 200 hhr and 300 hr, under the name "Viktoria".[/QUOTE]Perhaps the biggest attraction of SA is that you can find hot, attractive young women who are NOT like HX pros, quoting by the hour, and charging by "menu" item. Instead, you can date "ordinary," normal coeds, waitresses, nurses, etc, without worrying about 30 min being up.

And if you don't agree, and want to go with the pro, then just remember that contacting them on HX is a lot cheaper than using SA!

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5069690]Perhaps the biggest attraction of SA is that you can find hot, attractive young women who are NOT like HX pros, quoting by the hour, and charging by "menu" item. Instead, you can date "ordinary," normal coeds, waitresses, nurses, etc, without worrying about 30 min being up.

And if you don't agree, and want to go with the pro, then just remember that contacting them on HX is a lot cheaper than using SA![/QUOTE]Not seeking pros, but guess I just find them. Maybe need to lower my standards, but rather not have to pay for average.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2155da96-52a8-4962-b8f0-26e42ccea226[/URL] Wants $500 stated everything and one and done. She doesn't host.

[QUOTE=Koolbeans;5069846]Not seeking pros, but guess I just find them. Maybe need to lower my standards, but rather not have to pay for average.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2155da96-52a8-4962-b8f0-26e42ccea226[/URL] Wants $500 stated everything and one and done. She doesn't host.[/QUOTE]Don't do it. These girls are online constantly, which means very few are paying that price.

[QUOTE=FingerLicking;5069897]Don't do it. These girls are online constantly, which means very few are paying that price.[/QUOTE]Yeah I wouldn't pay that as one and done just wouldn't work. If it was an overnight, then maybe. Most I've texted had arrangements with people that from SF that arranged hotel. I have plenty of AMP providers that offer everything and they make sure you are taken care of and satisfied. It seems the SB must have some script as $500 seems to be the norm, but for that price definitely need msog and hopefully blows my mind. One of the AMP providers I know rides me like a jockey in the Kentucky Derby. I feel like a winner after every session and my legs are shaky.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5068049]Has it crossed your mind that your last statement may have something to do with the sad blue balls tale you set out?

Sounds to me like the Latina was impatiently waiting for you to make an offer. You didn't. I don't provide assistance just for a M&G, or to watch a girl eat, but I do make an offer. That is why they are meeting you - they need assistance.

As for the Asian, well, did you really think going into the meeting that a typical 19 yo UCSD student is going to be a perfect political match for a truck driving ex-military type? But who cares about her politics! I have nodded my head to many a statement I completely disagree with, so my other head could have fun with a string of hot liberal babes. Enough Benjamins, or once the clothes are off, and she probably won't care either.[/QUOTE]LOL I was goin say the same but held back just incase he's true to his cause!! On the other hand hells yes forget "POLITICS" when there's a juicy pussy in front! I'd probably sold my cause to get that asian chick in my bed LOL or the back seat of your big truck!!

Friends les not forget the "Objective" get these SA chicks panties drop!! Free or Paid (hope not that much!) or just stick to HX lmao!!

So do we get the link on that UCSD chick?

[QUOTE=Koolbeans;5069846]Not seeking pros, but guess I just find them. Maybe need to lower my standards, but rather not have to pay for average.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2155da96-52a8-4962-b8f0-26e42ccea226[/URL] Wants $500 stated everything and one and done. She doesn't host.[/QUOTE]Why do you have to lower your standards?

The SBs on SA are, on average, much more attractive to me than the clapped out old ****** on HX.

On HX:

- Many have been on the go for 15-20 years, same old faces, but now granny age (50+ some of them).

- Lots of baby bodies, lots of tattoos, and many loose bodies and pussies.

- Lots use fake or heavily photoshopped photos, especially the popular Asian clubs.

Another way you seem to have it backwards is that you obviously have a brainwashed John idea that she has a rate, and you can't / don't question that.

If you ask an SB for what she would accept, she is of course going to ask for a substantial number. You would too. But it is almost always just an opening bid. If you have any game at all, you should be able to get a discount. I commonly got 500 down to 250-300.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5069427]To each their own, but your approach reads to me more like picking up a SW than courting a SB. If you are negotiating $ w / a POT you've never met, that is pretty much where you are. As I said, to each their own, but if you want a peak experience (a girl who isn't selling it to anyone who calls / emails / texts, who is as beautiful as any model or actress you've seen, and is a TRUE GFE), you won't get it your way.[/QUOTE]+1. Spot on. The logic of OP is that of a John picking up a pro.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5070551]Why do you have to lower your standards?

The SBs on SA are, on average, much more attractive to me than the clapped out old ****** on HX.

On HX:

- Many have been on the go for 15-20 years, same old faces, but now granny age (50+ some of them).

- Lots of baby bodies, lots of tattoos, and many loose bodies and pussies.

- Lots use fake or heavily photoshopped photos, especially the popular Asian clubs.

Another way you seem to have it backwards is that you obviously have a brainwashed John idea that she has a rate, and you can't / don't question that.

If you ask an SB for what she would accept, she is of course going to ask for a substantial number. You would too. But it is almost always just an opening bid. If you have any game at all, you should be able to get a discount. I commonly got 500 down to 250-300.[/QUOTE]I don't utilize HX and mostly went to AMPs, international, or HK in TJ. I have 3 lined up to meet and see if I take it away from monetary discussion and actually see how relationship goes. One is going to workout at the gym and another for dinner. I will have to circle back to the Latina if she wants to do something fun and come back to the place for more drinks. It is an interesting website as I haven't had luck on POF or Tinder. Prefer meeting someone 25 or younger. The sad part is most I've chatted with lost their jobs due to these lockdowns and we are going into another lockdown. We will probably see more reasonable arrangements with holidays coming up. Invest in assets like real estate, precious metals, and crypto as they are about to print the shit out of our currency. I miss international arrangements where you pay $100-200 for a GFE overnight with hotties, but then San Diego is so expensive for these ladies. I sure will let you guys know how it goes as being direct and to the point got me some gps rates which signals a pro to me. 🤔

All of this time/effort and potential wallet draining makes me think I should just get a GT500.

[QUOTE=Koolbeans;5070566]I don't utilize HX and mostly went to AMPs, international, or HK in TJ. I have 3 lined up to meet and see if I take it away from monetary discussion and actually see how relationship goes. One is going to workout at the gym and another for dinner. I will have to circle back to the Latina if she wants to do something fun and come back to the place for more drinks. It is an interesting website as I haven't had luck on POF or Tinder. Prefer meeting someone 25 or younger. The sad part is most I've chatted with lost their jobs due to these lockdowns and we are going into another lockdown. We will probably see more reasonable arrangements with holidays coming up. Invest in assets like real estate, precious metals, and crypto as they are about to print the shit out of our currency. I miss international arrangements where you pay $100-200 for a GFE overnight with hotties, but then San Diego is so expensive for these ladies. I sure will let you guys know how it goes as being direct and to the point got me some gps rates which signals a pro to me.[/QUOTE]You can do what you want, obviously, but a cardinal rule of sugaring is never have them at your own place. This is a serious violation of your operational security, even if you are single, there's a lot of ways this could come back to bite you. There is a 'bible' of sugar, the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread, you should read it.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5070758]You can do what you want, obviously, but a cardinal rule of sugaring is never have them at your own place. This is a serious violation of your operational security, even if you are single, there's a lot of ways this could come back to bite you. There is a 'bible' of sugar, the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread, you should read it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I know not to meet up at my place, but I'm still wondering if any of them will ever try and blackmail me in the future. I'm sure the risk is low, especially since I'm pretty much a nobody and not rich, but if they're crazy enough I'm sure they could figure out a way to get more money out of you.

Also I looked up that thread. IT's got like 19 k posts dating back to 2010. I looked around and there's some good stuff, but there's so much I don't know where to start.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5070758]You can do what you want, obviously, but a cardinal rule of sugaring is never have them at your own place. This is a serious violation of your operational security, even if you are single, there's a lot of ways this could come back to bite you. There is a 'bible' of sugar, the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread, you should read it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, but I got a good gauge of the local girl / Latina in the area after the dinner / interrogation. I'm not one to be scared in life as I should have died many times over in the military and working as a contractor in war zones for 4 years. I have plenty of firepower if things were to go down, but we are in the socialist republic of CA after all so hugs for everyone. The only issue for me would be false legal charges as I do have assets to protect, but that is what good legal advisors are for.

I am looking for a relationship where I wine, dine, romance, and possibly do some travel / hobbies with them. Just coming out of an 18 yr. relationship, I’m looking for knock my socks off, leg quivering fun and excitement minus adding more kids to the world. I've got some international trips lined up next year (non monger) like Alaska and Caribbean I'd like to bring someone along. I've done this in Thailand bringing someone to Cambodia and was a success. The university women I've met seem to be psychology or sociology majors so maybe the sugar life is a research paper they have to complete for future project. Hope to find that special one or two to provide monetary support, but then if too much hassle, I'll just order a GT500 and stick with AMPs and international mongering trips to Thai, PI, Columbia, Dubai, etc. I need to meet a Romanian women if any of you have recommendations.

The Richmond VA sugar thread has some epic posts. It is very entertaining read. I'm glad we are not in a small market as it would be rough if you found family or friends online.

[QUOTE=Koolbeans;5071341]The Richmond VA sugar thread has some epic posts. It is very entertaining read. I'm glad we are not in a small market as it would be rough if you found family or friends online.[/QUOTE]The point is, that Richmond thread is the de facto national thread for sugaring, IDK why. Of course guys also post local stuff there, but it is the bible.

I was worried about people I know when I first joined sites, but really, the world is just very big, no matter where you are. I've never had a problem.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5072011]The point is, that Richmond thread is the de facto national thread for sugaring, IDK why. Of course guys also post local stuff there, but it is the bible.

I was worried about people I know when I first joined sites, but really, the world is just very big, no matter where you are. I've never had a problem.[/QUOTE]Yeah, SA is more exciting for the chase, but the delayed responses and completely disappearing from the site is strange, but maybe they found out sugar doesn't come free. False expectations from YT and news articles. I am sure some SD offer free money to spend time with younger women to watch them eat or conversation, but I could just go to a strip joint to get some young women to spend time grinding away on my lap. International travel screwed me with how good it is to be an American on foreign soil.