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[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3265633]Ladies and Gentlemen (and even the select few that don't fall under either of these).
Meet Chris5 from Orlando. This dude is the definition of a piece of shit. A few of us on this forum could go on and on about what we have found out about this low life in the span of the last 24 hours or so. He is the self annoted king of Orlando. Well the king of the streetwalkers at least. Chris lives a great deal of his life on USA (way way more than me) promoting the crack addicted streetwalkers of a place in Orlando nicknamed Paradise Trail. Paradise Trail is a section of US441 or Orange Blossom Trail. This is the slums of Orlando where all the bottom feeders live. It is arguably the worst drug infested area in Florida. Paradise Trail has even been on the national news before talking about its terrible issues with heavy drugs and prostitution. Chris even openly brags about picking up the crack addicts and taking them back to the trap houses to fuck them. His preferred sexual practices are those that we chastise mongers about here but much worse. Chris has many reports outside of USASG stating that he is a pimp and even has published conversations backing this claim up. Thankfully due to A2's stepping in, as fast as we are meeting Chris, we are saying good riddance.
Sincerely Signed,
The 2nd Biggest Prick in the Yard (Chris is #1 until tomorrow. He will no longer be here and I can regain my title).
P.S. - Hey Anon, nice guy that you chose to take sides with!
For your reading pleasure: [URL]http://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/prostitution-drugs-and-living-life-on-the-trail/Content?oid=2370366[/URL]#.
[URL]http://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/welcome-to-paradise/Content?oid=2274070[/URL] (This one is old but other reports say it is still the same way).[/QUOTE]Thank you for linking the two articles they were... informative.
If I might make a suggestion, talk about the issue and not the person. (ex. You always. You never. Etc.) In my experience, "talking about the person" makes people defensive and is counterproductive.
Secondly, irregardless of the differing viewpoints, derogatory comments won't persuade anyone. At best the individual will agree with you and play the part. This is particularly unfortunate as Chris is a point of contact for many girls in Florida. This is a good opportunity to engage in open dialogue and perhaps help. Even if you don't reach Chris a lot of Johns read this forum and maybe they will start helping some of the girls in the area.
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Thunder from down under
I once bred an elephant with a kangaroo.
Now there are potholes all over Australia.
Peace, and chicken grease.
Update: I just noticed I'm half evil, as is Mmgeg. Once she marries me, I suppose all hell is gonna break loose.
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That's it
[BLUE]Ding, ding, ding, fights over folks.
A2[/BLUE]
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[QUOTE=HarveyMudd;3266503]Not to contradict you, FF, but I started seeing Sam a couple months after my friend died, and I haven't seen anything at all like this.
I know she has a BF, from social media, but he has never been an issue whatsoever.
She was definitely in an accident, and was in the passenger seat when it happened (I've seen the car and the photos and the documentation). I've helped her with some of the professional advice around dealing with the situation, as well.
I have paid in advance before and not regretted it. So I don't know where that is coming from, either.
I don't have as long a history here as you, FF, but I don't think what you posted is right, or fair here with Sam.[/QUOTE]Moving to Prickyard not to fight but since this may cause a discussion.
Harv,
No disrespect but I know where FF is coming from. First, she stays at 21st and Shadeland. You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than you do finding a non-addict girl working from there. How long you spent with her at any one time? Where you with her the whole time? Not sure of your personal situation but try and see her (or any other suspected addict) for an extended stay. Some will not even do overnights because they know they can't use while you are there. It astonishes most people to find out the level that will go into hiding addiction and the level and effectiveness they will go in lying to cover it up. It is also important to know that just because you do not see tracks, does not mean they aren't a user. It can mean they are using other places to hide the injections, are new to IV'ing, or do not inject it at all.
He also is trying to just keep eyes open and backs watched. I have been startign to deal with an issue up in SB that is a good example. The two newer hot commodities in SB are H addicts. For months, many guys thought they were clean and some still do. They hid it very well. It was not until this week that the cover went out the window when I informed the board that they were literaally seen making a pharmaceutical purchase after an appointment and RUNNING to their room to use it. I have had PMs this week of guys who saw one or both of them as recent as last week that said they still did not see signs. Along with this, as they are falling further and further into addiction they have turned to cash and dashes on their outcalls. Point is even the good ones can and most likely will change after long enough on the habit.
Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard (Title Regained).
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[QUOTE=HarveyMudd;3266503]Not to contradict you, FF, but I started seeing Sam a couple months after my friend died, and I haven't seen anything at all like this.
I know she has a BF, from social media, but he has never been an issue whatsoever.
She was definitely in an accident, and was in the passenger seat when it happened (I've seen the car and the photos and the documentation). I've helped her with some of the professional advice around dealing with the situation, as well.
I have paid in advance before and not regretted it. So I don't know where that is coming from, either.
I don't have as long a history here as you, FF, but I don't think what you posted is right, or fair here with Sam.[/QUOTE]Harvey,
We all hope that FF is mistaken and Sam has overcome her addiction.
Sometimes being lied to by someone you care about is a bitter pill to swallow. If this is the case in this instance, it's easy to feel like the sucker that didn't see it or that your good will was taken advantage of.
But try to keep in mind, believing in someone doesn't make you any less of a person.
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Sam and Addicts
[QUOTE=HarveyMudd;3266503]I know she has a BF, from social media, but he has never been an issue whatsoever. She was definitely in an accident, and was in the passenger seat when it happened (I've seen the car and the photos and the documentation). I've helped her with some of the professional advice around dealing with the situation, as well. I have paid in advance before and not regretted it. So I don't know where that is coming from, either. I don't have as long a history here as you, FF, but I don't think what you posted is right, or fair here with Sam.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MotorBoy;3265358]I am sure there is AA guy involved. When she got the money during my second visit, she quickly opened the door and gave him the money. But told me she gave it to her sister to pay for room rent. LOL can't I differentiate between an AA man and a white girl?! But I was not robbed or threatened so far. Maybe medicine or uncle?[/QUOTE]Sam is an active addict, that I can guarantee you. The AA picking up money in MotorBoy's post is the dealer and a well known pimp in the area. He was involved with Kat and got her started in the business last spring. I met Sam over a year ago. I heard all her stories and she has many. I like Sam, I like a lot of addicts. I am around recovering addicts on a daily basis.
Here are some things about addicts that can help anyone determine if they are active.
[B]The Stories[/B] They tell stories and you will eventually find inconsistencies in their stories. Simple things like I need money for the weekly room rent. One time it's needed on a Monday, the next time it's on a Thursday. It's the small nuances in the stories that contradict themselves. When you ask about these inconsistencies they get very defensive. Stories like, I owe my mother money, I have past bills I have to pay, I have to give it to my kids, I need it for something. There is always a story.
[B]Always Sick[/B] Addicts will always tell you they have a cold, a hole in their septum from past use (if snorting was their avenue of use), runny eyes, etc. It's because they are currently using. Ask yourself, Why are they always sick with a cold and dripping eyes?
[B]Money[/B] The main way to tell if an addict is using is [B][red]FOLLOW THE MONEY[/red][/B]. I know legitimate ladies on BP that see from 5 to 10 guys a day, so a good escort addict is probably seeing at least 3 guys a day. Let's say they average $100 per visit. That's $300 gross a day. If they only work 5 days / week then that's $1,500 a week or $6,000 a month. So if you follow the money then it's obviously going someplace else other than the $60/ day 21st and Shadeland hotel and $50 in food and cigarettes. Oh don't forget they will always say business has been slow. It's their way of playing your heart strings. When Autumn Sky was an active addict she was bringing in almost $500 day and smoking it up every day. H sells for $200 a gram. A heavy addict will go through 2-3 grams a day. So once again ask yourself where does the money go? With that kind of money they should be driving a decent car, have a nice apartment and be able to take care of themselves.
[B]The Signs[/B] Addicts that mainline will do it anywhere. Between their toes, under the tongue, in the armpit, in old track marks, under finger and toe nails. I saw one do it in the side of her shoulder once without hesitation and was puking within minutes from the extreme high. Snorters are always dripping, have a runny nose, teary eyes.
So don't tell me any of these ladies aren't using. If they were a recovering addict within one month they would be well on their way to being back on their feet again. Oh wait I forgot about the stories, where the money is really going, why they can't save anything, why after 6 months they are still living in the same shithole they were in 6 months ago.
Harvey, IndyAnon is right about believing in someone. It's not your fault you have a heart. I do to, that's why I also have fallen into the traps. That's why I wrote the Ursula the Sea Witch Story. I am not perfect and many of my friends will tell you I need to stop helping. Maybe it's time I do. Maybe it's time I quite all together.
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They're going to get evicted. The people they live with are going to be evicted. They were robbed. You're the only person they can turn to. They are real sick. They are going to get treatment. Their dad or parents are out of town till Tuesday. Ole dude who kicked them won't give them their stuff without being paid past rent.
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[QUOTE=Covenant60;3268071]They're going to get evicted. The people they live with are going to be evicted. They were robbed. You're the only person they can turn to. They are real sick. They are going to get treatment. Their dad or parents are out of town till Tuesday. Ole dude who kicked them won't give them their stuff without being paid past rent.[/QUOTE]Legally he can't do that.
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Buffet
Some of the best restaurants in town are buffets. Some offer firery hot wings, some have great fried chicken. FF likes white meat lightly peppered. IG likes them red hot. Bob likes the thigh pieces but only if they have a little gap. I always avoid the drive throughs especially on the president street. I value my health too much to get any take out there. I also avoid the ones with H-chemicals, they tend to be sour and very bad for you. Usually the pop-up Chinese restaurants have poor service. Most of the time what's pictured in the menu is not what you get. Be Leery of the ones that don't require napkins, they tend to have low scores from the health department. The best part about buffets is that you get to sample just about anything you'd like to. If you want to gorge yourself on prime rib, go ahead. If I'm going to pay for a meal though I try to go to a place that treats me right and has a tasty menu. My tastes will change from time to time and that's cool too. What I find tasty might not be what you find tasty but I won't judge you for you meal choices (at least not publicly). So take of yourself and chose your restaurants wisely.
Good eats,
Dave.
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Food for thought
You are so right Dave. There's nothing better than a smorgasbord of the female persuasion! Although my animalistic instincts have me craving some bald beaver. A whisker biscuit is much tastier than a fur burger, but I'd also settle for a bearded clam too. I mostly try to stay away from tuna taco's, as they tend to upset my tummy too much. But everyone likes a different topping on their poontang pizza, so I suppose any flavor is good!
Have it your way, just like the King!
Kyussfan.
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Short and sweet
[QUOTE=DaveRue;3269707] IG likes them red hot.[/QUOTE]Red hots; for the few that are brave enough to play with fire!
Sincerely Signed,
The Fire Loving Biggest Prick in the Yard.
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I like all kinds of chow. I'm always thinking about my next meal. And I always wear a bib.
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Happy VD day bitches!
(And to the ladies as well).
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V Day
Aww, spanks! Oops, I mean thanks!
[QUOTE=TheoGuderian;3271598]Happy VD day bitches!
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You Sure Know A Lot
[QUOTE=SuperFun;3286214]HE speaks the truth. I got a buddy who does contract work. He told me uncle had bags of phones and cash. He said a couple of them got let go. A skinny white who looks like she uses H. The other was an older white grandmother looking girl w tats on her tit and leg w / short blonde hair and glasses. He said she got in Mercedes after being interviewed. The H- girl got in white new ford pickup w some thug. Becarefull, cause uncle never lets you go unless you work for them.[/QUOTE]And yet you don't, but maybe you do! Did you know that LE cannot let anyone go with promises to help them to reduce charges or delete charges without the written consent of the prosecutor? LE will lie and say whatever they can to get you to turn over your info at the time of the actual bust / sting. But NO deals can be made that will stand up in a court of law unless the prosecutor is in the room with them making a deal for each individual. The arresting officers can tell you a deal is made, they can pretend a deal is made, but no deal can be made without the written consent of prosecutor. They can let you go, and sometimes do because there isn't enough evidence to pursue charges. That night at least three ladies were arrested and booked at the Marion County Jail.
So now back to your Buddy who does contract work, he must be one of the arresting officers or someone in the room after the bust because some of your details are pretty damn accurate. All the details less the fact that they let them go. So now maybe we all need to be a little careful of you.
Have a good day!