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I mentioned this before, but I paid for SA over 8 months ago one time $50 or whatever it is, and I still have access to my premium membership. It's pretty awesome.
I went back on the hunt and I managed to find like 8 POTs so far. One I know is DTF. Meeting her this weekend. She's obviously a UTR, and her cell lead right to her facebook. When are these gals going to learn?
[QUOTE=Joerdu;3546051]The Raleigh sugar bowl is full of talent right now. Good times for all.[/QUOTE]I can't even keep up with it anymore. Met separately with 2 new fantastic girls at the FC just this week, had to postpone 2 other FC meets because I don't have the time, and literally have over 100 unread messages in my inbox. I might keep one of the two from this week for something ongoing, but there are many new and beautiful ones signing on every day.
Anyone who even tries to play games or doesn't fit what I'm looking for immediately gets nexted. I'm enjoying these years of my life tremendously, because I know it won't last forever! Good luck!
Yaya.
If you're into it, check out DiscreetStudent. Verified model and seems fun but not my thing and not very discreet! Seniors can let me know if you want her info.
Med.
Greetings friends. Can anyone provide me with any info regarding Anr93? I have some information I'm willing to share my intel privately as well. Thanks in advance.
Are /.
Gringo.
I've chatted with her too. She's super hot but wants 500 per meet which is way above what I'm willing to do.
[QUOTE=MedJohnson;3550143]If you're into it, check out DiscreetStudent. Verified model and seems fun but not my thing and not very discreet! Seniors can let me know if you want her info.
Med.[/QUOTE]
And if you're into AA girls stay away from amelialuxury. Don't believe her profile, she's a stuck up ***** with a shitty attitude.
Man maybe it's me but I'm not noticing this influx you gents are.
Anyhow, anyone have any intel on cotton_candie or princess_kat1990?
Gentlemen,
I'm still looking for info on Anr93. I'd really appreciate some input here. I'm certainly willing to reciprocate. Thanks again.
Regards,
Gordo.
Hi Everyone,
I'm a long time lurker, new poster. Thanks for your ongoing insights.
I've just joined the scene and have yet to achieve FC status. I'm close, but still weighing my options.
I had a meet and greet today and I could tell that what I had to spend on a monthly basis was missing a few zeroes based on her reaction and expectations.
I have a job and I have responsibilities. I can't come close to parsing out $1000 a month on an ongoing basis just to have a plaything (not to mention meals / gifts / hotels).
Are there really that many men who can afford this level of financial support out there? What are the average prices / market rate for various activities?
Should I get 3 more full time jobs or sell both my kidneys?
-Tokyo.
Hello all,
Wanted to post something simple to begin with. Been a SD for about 4 years in two different locations. Been in Raleigh about two years so have a bit of experience with some of the locals that I will share in another post. I'm still learning, guess you never really stop. Most of the advice here is really good and I agree. I have had 2 really good arrangements, they both moved. Several others that were so so and dropped them. Others that were one time FC.
Be careful out there.
After multiple messages and over an hour on the phone, I did a M&G with BabieChemist and was surprised to meet a BBW. Smart, nice personality, but not what I'm looking for.
The lovely pictures are definitely not up to date.
As promised. PM me for any additional details or other information.
Time wasters. Two types here, those that I messaged / text d / emailed a lot and then they disappear or blocked me and those that have a M&G, set something up for more, then disappear. Xstephanie, ashlynn3,redpinapple, babygirl302, gingalocks.
One or more meetings with benefits but not worth it in my opinion. Younghotblonde93, Dallas, few others I can't find now.
Got a couple that I can recommend, just moved on. 22 and 24 brunettes and 28 blonde. All slim.
Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=TokyoJeffRo;3559525]Hi Everyone,
I'm a long time lurker, new poster. Thanks for your ongoing insights.
I've just joined the scene and have yet to achieve FC status. I'm close, but still weighing my options.
I had a meet and greet today and I could tell that what I had to spend on a monthly basis was missing a few zeroes based on her reaction and expectations.
I have a job and I have responsibilities. I can't come close to parsing out $1000 a month on an ongoing basis just to have a plaything (not to mention meals / gifts / hotels).
Are there really that many men who can afford this level of financial support out there? What are the average prices / market rate for various activities?
Should I get 3 more full time jobs or sell both my kidneys?
-Tokyo.[/QUOTE]I have taken 40 plus SBs to the FC the past two years, and about half I saw 3 to ten times. I can tell you to plan on 200 for the SB per visit plus 80 for the hotel. Most of my M & Gs have been coffee or maybe an appetizer. Most of the SBs I did not take out to a meal on each visit but the ones I did I had more fun with getting to know them. $1000 is okay for maybe 3 FCs a month. But here is the real trick to this game. It's taking advantage of the timing. You get to a point in the texting (not on the SA site but on your phone) when you know they are ready to make it happen and you need to seize the moment. The catch is you may already spent $ 300 earlier that week and now you get your another SB you have been texting and you sense she is ready for an m & g. But at the M & G you don't want to postpone the hotel date (to the next week) if you sense she is ready now. You want to be in the hotel 30 minutes later. What I am trying to say is, if you are counting the dollars you may be in the wrong game. I personally budget 2000, but I don't spend that anymore bc I found a good one who can host, but I take her out to a very nice $50 lunch every week so she represents 1000 a month. Then I still have fun with a few others once or twice a month.
[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3563218]I have taken 40 plus SBs to the FC the past two years, and about half I saw 3 to ten times. I can tell you to plan on 200 for the SB per visit plus 80 for the hotel. Most of my M & Gs have been coffee or maybe an appetizer. Most of the SBs I did not take out to a meal on each visit but the ones I did I had more fun with getting to know them. $1000 is okay for maybe 3 FCs a month. But here is the real trick to this game. It's taking advantage of the timing. You get to a point in the texting (not on the SA site but on your phone) when you know they are ready to make it happen and you need to seize the moment. The catch is you may already spent $ 300 earlier that week and now you get your another SB you have been texting and you sense she is ready for an m & g. But at the M & G you don't want to postpone the hotel date (to the next week) if you sense she is ready now. You want to be in the hotel 30 minutes later. What I am trying to say is, if you are counting the dollars you may be in the wrong game. I personally budget 2000, but I don't spend that anymore bc I found a good one who can host, but I take her out to a very nice $50 lunch every week so she represents 1000 a month. Then I still have fun with a few others once or twice a month.[/QUOTE]StormyTuesday, you're still my hero! If I wasn't so much older than you, I'd hope to grow up and be just like you.
Safe mongering and sugaring!
[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3563218]I have taken 40 plus SBs to the FC the past two years, and about half I saw 3 to ten times. I can tell you to plan on 200 for the SB per visit plus 80 for the hotel. Most of my M & Gs have been coffee or maybe an appetizer. Most of the SBs I did not take out to a meal on each visit but the ones I did I had more fun with getting to know them. $1000 is okay for maybe 3 FCs a month. But here is the real trick to this game. It's taking advantage of the timing. You get to a point in the texting (not on the SA site but on your phone) when you know they are ready to make it happen and you need to seize the moment. The catch is you may already spent $ 300 earlier that week and now you get your another SB you have been texting and you sense she is ready for an m & g. But at the M & G you don't want to postpone the hotel date (to the next week) if you sense she is ready now. You want to be in the hotel 30 minutes later. What I am trying to say is, if you are counting the dollars you may be in the wrong game. I personally budget 2000, but I don't spend that anymore bc I found a good one who can host, but I take her out to a very nice $50 lunch every week so she represents 1000 a month. Then I still have fun with a few others once or twice a month.[/QUOTE]I learn from my elders.
Thank you!
Hi fellow SDs.
Does anyone have any information on CarterM0208 on SA? Here is her link: [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/6aa0b0ad-3d6b-4861-a177-ec1aca3e7d76[/URL].
She mid 20's and gorgeous but seems a little flaky. I've been texting with her off and on for several days now and still no meeting scheduled. Thank you,
Safe mongering and sugaring!
[QUOTE=RWarNmsn69;3565106]Hi fellow SDs.
Does anyone have any information on CarterM0208 on SA? Here is her link: [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/6aa0b0ad-3d6b-4861-a177-ec1aca3e7d76[/URL].
She mid 20's and gorgeous but seems a little flaky. I've been texting with her off and on for several days now and still no meeting scheduled. Thank you,
Safe mongering and sugaring![/QUOTE]She seems strange to me. Hit me up out of nowhere today with her# . Said she didn't want allowance but just get away and have fun whether at the beach or a couples massage. I mean it's Wednesday who can do that??
[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3563218]I can tell you to plan on 200 for the SB per visit plus 80 for the hotel. Most of my M & Gs have been coffee or maybe an appetizer. Most of the SBs I did not take out to a meal on each visit but the ones I did I had more fun with getting to know them. $1000 is okay for maybe 3 FCs a month. But here is the real trick to this game. It's taking advantage of the timing. You get to a point in the texting (not on the SA site but on your phone) when you know they are ready to make it happen and you need to seize the moment. [/QUOTE]This is my experience as well with regards to average donation amount, meeting places and local hotel costs. However, I prefer weekly ongoing arrangements where the SB considers it dependable income so many will lower their asking price for the ongoing stability I represent. It's up to the girl whether she likes you enough to do that, so be prepared to offer much more to convince her if she's not as into you. If you're presentable and personable (not a dick) they'll be receptive to the idea. I agree that you need to have some game and know how and when to just assume the sale and set up the FC meet.
On a related note, I've been overwhelmed by the response rate from incredibly hot girls recently and cannot keep up even while being extremely selective. I'm loving it while it lasts but is anyone else experiencing this?
[QUOTE=Aswerty9111;3565585]She seems strange to me. Hit me up out of nowhere today with her# . Said she didn't want allowance but just get away and have fun whether at the beach or a couples massage. I mean it's Wednesday who can do that??[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RWarNmsn69;3565106]Hi fellow SDs.
Does anyone have any information on CarterM0208 on SA? Here is her link: [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/6aa0b0ad-3d6b-4861-a177-ec1aca3e7d76[/URL].
She mid 20's and gorgeous but seems a little flaky. I've been texting with her off and on for several days now and still no meeting scheduled. Thank you,
Safe mongering and sugaring![/QUOTE]Aswerty9111, an old retired man can, that's who.
Avoid this woman and her partner, Tatumxo, like the plague. (Tatumxo has since blocked me on SA so I can't post a link for her.) I won't go into particulars but suffice it to say I got robbed. I had been talking to both of them for a couple of weeks but couldn't synchronize schedules and never realized that they were partners. I had talked to CarterM0208 on Tuesday evening so I wasn't surprised when she called me Wednesday morning. Fortunately, or should I say unfortunately, I was available. To make a long story short, I went out with them, got extremely intoxicated, and was taken advantage of. And not in the way I wanted to be taken advantage of. All I have left to say is I had to involve the local police so be careful out here!
Safe mongering and sugaring!
[QUOTE=YayaGogo;3567859]This is my experience as well with regards to average donation amount, meeting places and local hotel costs. However, I prefer weekly ongoing arrangements where the SB considers it dependable income so many will lower their asking price for the ongoing stability I represent. It's up to the girl whether she likes you enough to do that, so be prepared to offer much more to convince her
On a related note, I've been overwhelmed by the response rate from incredibly hot girls recently and cannot keep up even while being extremely selective. I'm loving it while it lasts but is anyone else experiencing this?[/QUOTE]I could not agree more. Talent is very strong right there and with just a little bit of game combined with being a nice, attractive, successful guy, the cost is dropping. More and more of the younger girls are really into it for the experience of being spoiled a bit and see what it can be like with an older guy. They are tired of. Guys their age.
[QUOTE=RWarNmsn69;3568105]Aswerty9111, an old retired man can, that's who.
Avoid this woman and her partner, Tatumxo, like the plague. (Tatumxo has since blocked me on SA so I can't post a link for her.) I won't go into particulars but suffice it to say I got robbed. I had been talking to both of them for a couple of weeks but couldn't synchronize schedules and never realized that they were partners. I had talked to CarterM0208 on Tuesday evening so I wasn't surprised when she called me Wednesday morning. Fortunately, or should I say unfortunately, I was available. To make a long story short, I went out with them, got extremely intoxicated, and was taken advantage of. And not in the way I wanted to be taken advantage of. All I have left to say is I had to involve the local police so be careful out here!
Safe mongering and sugaring![/QUOTE]Attached is a Facebook picture of the two women with "Carter" on the left and "Tatum" on the right. If you're currently in contact with these two, I'd recommend for you to cease all contact. You've been warned!
Safe mongering and sugaring!
[QUOTE=RWarNmsn69;3563339]StormyTuesday, you're still my hero! If I wasn't so much older than you, I'd hope to grow up and be just like you.
Safe mongering and sugaring![/QUOTE]Thank you for saying that, tho you would be surprised if I told you my age (it is a closely guarded secret LOL) but I will only say that whenever a brother boasts of being twice the age of a particular SB I can't help but smirk. Good genes, good jeans and of course exercise and diet are part of the formula. BTW sent you a PM a few weeks ago, PM back when you can.
[QUOTE=RWarNmsn69;3569413]Attached is a Facebook picture of the two women with "Carter" on the left and "Tatum" on the right. If you're currently in contact with these two, I'd recommend for you to cease all contact. You've been warned!
Safe mongering and sugaring![/QUOTE]Interesting! The blonde asked to meet at a bar a couple of Friday's ago but I was busy and never replied.
Now I never will. Thanks for the heads up!
Yaya.
Seen it mentioned a few times, read the FF, could not find its definition. I assume it is a "full consummation" or something similar to a SD / SB relationship?
[QUOTE=MarkUser;3571028]Seen it mentioned a few times, read the FF, could not find its definition. I assume it is a "full consummation" or something similar to a SD / SB relationship?[/QUOTE]Fuck Chamber, I believe.
[QUOTE=Triptogamont;3571275]Fuck Chamber, I believe.[/QUOTE]I never understand this odd term "FC" in reference to a true SB. A good SB, there is a lot more then just that end game.
[QUOTE=YayaGogo;3571011]Interesting! The blonde asked to meet at a bar a couple of Friday's ago but I was busy and never replied.
Now I never will. Thanks for the heads up!
Yaya.[/QUOTE]You're welcome Yaya! The blonde had been fairly aggressive in asking me out before but I didn’t connect the two of them or I might have passed. I wouldn't want any other forum member taken like I was though.
Safe mongering and sugaring!
I've recently run through about 5-6 potentails and all of them are asking $$$ or more. Any insights? I thought things were dropping or leveling off. I just thank them for their time and move on, but man I must be picking some bad ones right now. Any tips for keeping things on the lower end? Not trying to low ball, nor do I want to break the bank.
[QUOTE=Righton1960;3571971]I've recently run through about 5-6 potentails and all of them are asking $$$ or more. Any insights? I thought things were dropping or leveling off. I just thank them for their time and move on, but man I must be picking some bad ones right now. Any tips for keeping things on the lower end? Not trying to low ball, nor do I want to break the bank.[/QUOTE]Why do you say bad ones??
It is based on their needs, or fantasies, and supply and demand. Maybe you are picking from the mid shelf or top shelf and need to select lower, look for the Red Label liquor. If the girl is real, and a real SB and has something unique, and not a pro, she is not going to jump in bed with the first fat guy talking with her. SB is not backpage, (there are backpage girls there). Also, there are a lot of girls out there willing to go lower, but they usually have issues.
Cubancolombianbaby. Says she never had an arrangements depsite the 9/2016 sign up date. Also said she wants to bring girl friend along for the meet, because beingher first meet, she's not comfortable about it. Hmm.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4e94b0b5-d9a8-4aa4-8ebb-7ede63bfdbd7[/URL]
[QUOTE=Righton1960;3571971]I've recently run through about 5-6 potentails and all of them are asking $$$ or more. Any insights? I thought things were dropping or leveling off. I just thank them for their time and move on, but man I must be picking some bad ones right now. Any tips for keeping things on the lower end? Not trying to low ball, nor do I want to break the bank.[/QUOTE]Let's assume there are four different "places" in the "process" where the POT is asking for $$$ (or more). 1. The SA inbox 2. Your cell phone 3. The M & G 4. The FC. I am a big believer in NOT committing to a dollar amount until after the FC romp, at which time I quietly slip an envelope with a pretty card into her purse. If we had a good time and I intend to repeat I put $$ in the card, if it was not a good time then I put $. 5 in the card. The $. 5 rarely happens bc I typically have qualified the POT prior to the FC.
Now, how do I respond if the POT asks what kind of gift she could expect. If she asks in the SA inbox then I ask her to text me (leverage for the cell number so I can see if the number takes me to her FB). If she asks me in a cell phone message then I respond with "it depends on how much fun we have". I then move the convo to a day and time for the M & G. There needs to be enough finesse in the messaging so that she does not feel like the SD is lame, arrogant or disrespectful, but in fact a guy who sounds like a lot of fun. I then confirm the M & G the night before and the day of. When we meet for the M & G I have already booked a hotel room close to the M & G with a late afternoon cancellation deadline. After about ten to twenty minutes of the M & G (coffee, drinks, appetizer, etc) if we seem to click then I simply ask her "are you ok with a hotel date?" I have never in my two years in the bowl have had a POT say no to that question. If the POT does again ask what amount of gift can she expect I give the same answer. If by chance that non answer presents a problem for her, then no matter how stunning she may be I have to call it off. Because that tells me that she is not sold on me, either in terms of trust, appearance or my game. From her point of view she has to understand that I happen to be a weekly regular kind of SD. Yes I like variety but I also like to have a fun fwb type I can see every week. Believe me if you asked the POTS if they had a choice between a weekly SD they liked for a $$ per visit vs having to hustle with phone texting for the "one and done" $$$ SDs, they will tell you they much prefer the weekly $$ they can count on. But of course not all of us are looking for the weekly regular SB.
I know there are a good percentage of SDs in our local area who are providing $$$. I know this because my regular SB who hosts me once or twice a week ($ to $$) tells me she routinely gets $$$ on her other SD dates. Guys you are overpaying, worse it raises the gift level expectations. Remember these girls are not the BP pros that we had to negotiate for the hh or hr amount (or GFE, or BBBJ, etc) before we showed up at their motel with the outside doors. Moreover, there are two major advantages of not committing to the gift amount until after the romp. One, you stay in control. Second, they will put more effort into the romp. Just sayin' .
[QUOTE=Raltime;3571362]I never understand this odd term "FC" in reference to a true SB. A good SB, there is a lot more then just that end game.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree, though I do use the FC (fuck chamber) acronym in my posting efforts to provide tips regarding the process of transitioning the POT to a SB. My favorite SBs have always evolved into FWBs who I enjoy spending time with them outside the FC as much as I do inside the FC. (Well almost).
[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3586664]Let's assume there are four different "places" in the "process" where the POT is asking for $$$ (or more). 1. The SA inbox 2. Your cell phone 3. The M & G 4. The FC. I am a big believer in NOT committing to a dollar amount until after the FC romp, at which time I quietly slip an envelope with a pretty card into her purse. If we had a good time and I intend to repeat I put $$ in the card, if it was not a good time then I put $. 5 in the card. The $. 5 rarely happens bc I typically have qualified the POT prior to the FC.
Now, how do I respond if the POT asks what kind of gift she could expect. If she asks in the SA inbox then I ask her to text me (leverage for the cell number so I can see if the number takes me to her FB). If she asks me in a cell phone message then I respond with "it depends on how much fun we have". I then move the convo to a day and time for the M & G. There needs to be enough finesse in the messaging so that she does not feel like the SD is lame, arrogant or disrespectful, but in fact a guy who sounds like a lot of fun. I then confirm the M & G the night before and the day of. When we meet for the M & G I have already booked a hotel room close to the M & G with a late afternoon cancellation deadline. After about ten to twenty minutes of the M & G (coffee, drinks, appetizer, etc) if we seem to click then I simply ask her "are you ok with a hotel date?" I have never in my two years in the bowl have had a POT say no to that question. If the POT does again ask what amount of gift can she expect I give the same answer. If by chance that non answer presents a problem for her, then no matter how stunning she may be I have to call it off. Because that tells me that she is not sold on me, either in terms of trust, appearance or my game. From her point of view she has to understand that I happen to be a weekly regular kind of SD. Yes I like variety but I also like to have a fun fwb type I can see every week. Believe me if you asked the POTS if they had a choice between a weekly SD they liked for a $$ per visit vs having to hustle with phone texting for the "one and done" $$$ SDs, they will tell you they much prefer the weekly $$ they can count on. But of course not all of us are looking for the weekly regular SB.
I know there are a good percentage of SDs in our local area who are providing $$$. I know this because my regular SB who hosts me once or twice a week ($ to $$) tells me she routinely gets $$$ on her other SD dates. Guys you are overpaying, worse it raises the gift level expectations. Remember these girls are not the BP pros that we had to negotiate for the hh or hr amount (or GFE, or BBBJ, etc) before we showed up at their motel with the outside doors. Moreover, there are two major advantages of not committing to the gift amount until after the romp. One, you stay in control. Second, they will put more effort into the romp. Just sayin' .[/QUOTE]I never talk arrangements until the last of the m / g. If we are both in agreement to move forward then every aspect of the arrangement is discussed. We both know what to expect. I find that if this is done then she is not wondering what she gets out of the deal or if she is going to be completely stiffed. To many girls complain about being taken by guys who leave little to nothing at all. I certainly have never worked a job not knowing what I was being paid and doubt very few here would either. I also ask while setting up a m / g that if things go well if she is able to go to the fc afterwards. This gives her a heads up that she might need to allocate more time than just for a m / g. As far as the $$$ goes a true sb definitely deserve more than what you pay a BP girl for an hour. I hear so much about game playing into this but your mutual beneficial arrangement is number 1 on most of their list. They can fuck whoever they want for free, so your personality comes in 2nd in this sport. If things are good between you then later down the road you can decrease your arrangement if she wants to keep seeing you. Girls are learning that promises of something steady are just that. Most guys negotiate with promises of being steady but usually ghost after the first or second meeting. So the girls who are doing this for side money now have learned to up their prices, take the bigger offer, and if he never shows again its no loss. Just some of my thoughts on the subject.
I'm in the last 24 hours of my subscription and I'm suddenly getting interest (profile views), favorited, and messages from all over the place. Most of them not in my geographic area. Over thirty at this point, and I still have time to go. I'm betting my profile has been put in a prominent position in many women's searches (at best) - or I'm receiving 'interest' from bots (at worst).
It has kept me busy removing all the notices so that I still see the ones of interest.
Just an interesting feature of this website.
Have an M&G with Ashleymashley.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ff7530b9-ca68-4077-8e5c-74bc6e5f7e12[/URL]
Anyone seen her? Any intel is appreciated.
I have seen it both ways with arrangements concerning up front disclosure of amount and 'do you low ball or go ahead and pay up'. I struggle with both. I feel I scare some girls off talking amounts and I do not want to pay too much but I also realize what these girls are doing and what I would have to pay up going any other route be it BP or civie.
What I really wanted to comment on was the statement that you could always reduce the amount. I have been doing this for a long time. I don't invest the time or brain power that most guys commenting on here do but I have been around. And I have read the Richmond forum for years before everyone knew about it. In the words of Hollywood 'you can never go back'. Even my long long term sb (we were basically dating in some aspects) that I had a one year pause in hookups wouldn't let it go without comment and bad attitude that I slightly cut the amount.
You can never come down and it work out well.
[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3586861]I never talk arrangements until the last of the m / g. If we are both in agreement to move forward then every aspect of the arrangement is discussed. We both know what to expect. I find that if this is done then she is not wondering what she gets out of the deal or if she is going to be completely stiffed. To many girls complain about being taken by guys who leave little to nothing at all. I certainly have never worked a job not knowing what I was being paid and doubt very few here would either. I also ask while setting up a m / g that if things go well if she is able to go to the fc afterwards. This gives her a heads up that she might need to allocate more time than just for a m / g. As far as the $$$ goes a true sb definitely deserve more than what you pay a BP girl for an hour. I hear so much about game playing into this but your mutual beneficial arrangement is number 1 on most of their list. They can fuck whoever they want for free, so your personality comes in 2nd in this sport. If things are good between you then later down the road you can decrease your arrangement if she wants to keep seeing you. Girls are learning that promises of something steady are just that. Most guys negotiate with promises of being steady but usually ghost after the first or second meeting. So the girls who are doing this for side money now have learned to up their prices, take the bigger offer, and if he never shows again its no loss. Just some of my thoughts on the subject.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SkinJr;3587367]I have seen it both ways with arrangements concerning up front disclosure of amount and 'do you low ball or go ahead and pay up'. I struggle with both. I feel I scare some girls off talking amounts and I do not want to pay too much but I also realize what these girls are doing and what I would have to pay up going any other route be it BP or civie.
What I really wanted to comment on was the statement that you could always reduce the amount. I have been doing this for a long time. I don't invest the time or brain power that most guys commenting on here do but I have been around. And I have read the Richmond forum for years before everyone knew about it. In the words of Hollywood 'you can never go back'. Even my long long term sb (we were basically dating in some aspects) that I had a one year pause in hookups wouldn't let it go without comment and bad attitude that I slightly cut the amount.
You can never come down and it work out well.[/QUOTE]Yeah HG also if I remember reading correctly had a $ maximum and deducted any expenses that occurred during the date from that $. So if that works then decreasing an arrangement after time can be done, depending on the girl and the relationship. I've done it a couple of times onlong term sb's. Again it depends on the relationship you have. I also depending on the girl pay a higher arrangement for the first meeting (fc) and advise them its a one time deal and if they want to continue then its at a lesser amount. I usually drop it by $ and have around a 75% return rate on that. There are varying strategies, game plans, to this sd / sb game that myself have a hard time believing actually works but there is always exceptions to the rules. I have also used the rule anytime I think this is more than a transaction cut the $$ completely and see if they still stick around.
Ashblueeyes01. Time waster. Had the digits and several messages back and forth, then went silent.
Scam. Jenny something thru SA. Would only communicate thru hangouts, so I go get it. Some nice convo and pics set-up a M&G. Onirmed, then when I'm on my way, she hits me for this hook-up I'd. Legit MeetUp I'd. Info she provides is no help and google is no help, except seems to be a scam.
PM me if you need details, but just be on the lookout. She seemed TGTBT and likely is.
Couldn't find her info, but she just rejoined. Iamjenny11. Beware.
Hey ya'll -.
I have dabbled in the SD world with both good and bad experiences, but I've been out of it for about a year and thinking of jumping back in.
As I do that, I am also perusing Secret Benefits in addition to SA. Here's the thing, my SB profile is literally empty. There's no pic, no blurb, nothing. And yet, I get a bunch of messages from various young women initiating contact. Can I surmise that if the SB women are initiating things with nothing to go on, they're a little more experienced in the game, perhaps even semi-pro? When my SA profile was empty at first, this never happened over there. I was curious if there were any general differences between the women on the two sites.
Also, since I last dabbled in the arrangement world, I got married. It's great, but I just can't stop that young pussy. Do any other of you married guys find that listing your marital status hurts your chances or decreases the opportunities? If I do proceed with another arrangement, I am going to pursue it in another town, as I firmly believe you don't shit where you eat.
Any thoughts on doing this stuff while married (apart from judgement and psychoanalysis) would be welcomed. Thanks!