Massage Parlor Reports

Damn Ginger Man,

Are you saying that AMP workers have been victim to rape. I really hoped that this did not happen. I thought that women working in groups would prevent this. Also, I hoped men entering these facilities were looking not to attract trouble. I guess this is the problem with my naive point of view, thank god people like you are here to inform us on the details.

I found this hobby through the web, and have always hoped to introduce new people in the same fashion. If any postings of mine have lead to a rape incident this would make me very sad.

On the flip side, we always use names and prices etc. So that we know what to expect based on other peoples experiences.

I am increasingly starting to think that I need to leave the USA. Move to Taipei perhaps. For some reason everything concerning sex in this country never works logically.

[QUOTE=Ginger Man; 1135800]There can be more to it than that. There are some really bad guys that read these forums. In a nearby location, there were two guys raping ladies and filming the act. Then selling to people who were in to that. All Asian victims, unprotected sex in all three venues. They may still be getting away with it.

In Howard County LE has taken pics of hobbyists leaving spas and harrassed them at their homes. In front of their families.

Many girls have potential LE issues, and pretty much none of them want to be mentioned by name on these boards, and they are more and more aware.

In my experience, FWIW, discrete postings followed by PM / backchannel details with seniors works like a charm.

I have made pretty bad mistakes myself, it is not like I am preaching, just what I have found. [/QUOTE]

I can't imagine how you would possibly know what reports are accurate and which are full of lies. Dorfnalb's report is exactly the kind of report that I come to this Board to read. While I suspect that many folks garnish or embellish I still base who and where I practice this sport on the reports on this Board. In fact, I made an appointment to visit Kelly last night. So here is mine.

Last night I made my first visit to Lilly's even though I live in Laurel. I read too many less than favorable reports about this place over the years and preferred to go down the road to good old dependable Beltsville. But based on Dorfnalb's report I thought I would try it out.

It was absolutely AWFUL; the worst AMP experience of my career.

I made an appointment with Kelly for 10:15 on Saturday night. I got there and was surprised that I was not asked if I had been there before. I guess they assumed that since I asked for Kelly I was good to go. Dorfnalb's description is spot on and since I am an old fart she turned out to be one of those "young" babes that you all talk about. I thought she was very nice looking and seemed to have a nice personality. Everything started out ok and I was getting a nice massage for the first 5 min. In that period the doorbell rang about 4 times. Kelly stepped out and when she came back I got the fastest massage I have had in 10 years of this sport. I was flipping in less than 15 min. I should have known better but I went with it even through the negotiations and the feeble HJ. So within 20 min she was finished (with my own help, if you know what I mean).

This is the point where it got really stupid. When she was going for my clothes I said we are not done. She replied that they were very busy and she would give me more next time. She didn't understand that being busy is not my problem and that I paid for an hour. She simply kept repeating "next time." However as soon as I said that I would have to report this on the Internet, she got very apologetic and gave me 5 more min. Of neck massage, all the time begging me not to say anything on the Internet. As you can see, my loyalty to my fellow mongers is greater than a nice looking babe working at an AMP.

Save your money and got to Baltimore or DC for better service. You can go up to Columbia and visit Kyoto Spa if all you want is a massage and you will get a good one there. Or just maybe the one in Beltsville will open again.

[QUOTE=TheTeddybe2;1135029]I have been going to Lilly Spa for a very long time and I know Kelly and other ladies there and I know that some recent reports are NOT correct. Maybe we should look at respecting the ladies instead of making up stories. Even if some of what is said is true, think about it, We post information about different ladies, the police see said information and WHAM, somebody is busted. Is this what we want, talk about how nice or bad a massage or lady is but let's leave details out so ladies and not in danger of police harrassement. Lastly, we should not emblish our experiences to make us look better and we should not be as*oles about what we say.[/QUOTE]

It sounds to me like you might have been a little rough. Try not to treat the ladies like garbage (they can get that kind of treatment in Korea), they have feelings and insecurities also.

Treat these ladies like you would treat a girlfriend, compliment them, let them know you are grateful for their services. This is a business, but it need not be cold as ice. Unlike civilian women, these women seem to appreciate nice guys. And your compliments help ease their insecurities.

Concerning threats, please don't; they have enough threats as it is without having to deal with it from customers. If this job gets unbearable they will simply leave or become broken spirits, at which point we will be left with the kind of girls that used to work at spa 1.

Remember, these girls know that their purpose is to ease the stress of unsatisfied men. Some of them do this extremely well, but they need our help to be successful. I am not sure what lead to your 20 min. Session, but is it possible that you might be somehow responsible?

[QUOTE=A Otay; 1139281]Last night I made my first visit to Lilly's even though I live in Laurel. I read too many less than favorable reports about this place over the years and preferred to go down the road to good old dependable Beltsville. But based on Dorfnalb's report I thought I would try it out.

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I have been doing this for a few short years and have maybe 30-50 visits under my belt. I view each visit as a journey and I have learned to make the most of every visit. As I have reported in the past not every one of my trips were world class but every one did result in me meeting an Asian women. I have found that I really enjoy the play. I am very respectful of the ladies and have lived in and around Asians all of my adult life. Maybe that is the difference. I treat the ladies like I would treat my girlfriend no matter what her JOB is. Even the sumo lady had some nice qualities and I learned from that visit. I have never been rushed once in any AMP I visited and they include Pine Tree Kyoto Lilys and a few private AMPs.

Nah He

You quoted my post, but you couldn't possibly have been referring to it. I don't care if you want to consider yourself the champion of women that work in AMPs, but you might think about getting off that big white horse so you can read your computer a little better. There was nothing in my post either implied or explicit about a threat. What I said was that I would report my experience (accurately) on the Internet which is exactly what I did. I want other folks who read this board to be able to make more informed decisions about where they spend their money. I think that's the point of this site; tell the good, the bad and the ugly.

You probably don't realize when you are being delusional, but you were when you were thinking you knew what my behavior was like. See, if you were there you would have heard Kelly say several times that I was very funny and that I made her laugh. She even gave me a big kiss as I left. That may have been because even though the service was awful, or more correctly non-existent, I paid the TIP that we settled on because she did everything she promised and that I asked for. I was a perfect gentelman even though they were only giving me half the time I paid for. I am sorry, but I don't think you have any cause to champion here.

[QUOTE=Drofnalb; 1139312]It sounds to me like you might have been a little rough. Try not to treat the ladies like garbage (they can get that kind of treatment in Korea) , they have feelings and insecurities also.

Treat these ladies like you would treat a girlfriend, compliment them, let them know you are grateful for their services. This is a business, but it need not be cold as ice. Unlike civilian women, these women seem to appreciate nice guys. And your compliments help ease their insecurities.

Concerning threats, please don't; they have enough threats as it is without having to deal with it from customers. If this job gets unbearable they will simply leave or become broken spirits, at which point we will be left with the kind of girls that used to work at spa 1.

Remember, these girls know that their purpose is to ease the stress of unsatisfied men. Some of them do this extremely well, but they need our help to be successful. I am not sure what lead to your 20 min. Session, but is it possible that you might be somehow responsible? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=A Otay; 1139281]I can't imagine how you would possibly know what reports are accurate and which are full of lies. Dorfnalb's report is exactly the kind of report that I come to this Board to read. While I suspect that many folks garnish or embellish I still base who and where I practice this sport on the reports on this Board. In fact, I made an appointment to visit Kelly last night. So here is mine.

Last night I made my first visit to Lilly's even though I live in Laurel. I read too many less than favorable reports about this place over the years and preferred to go down the road to good old dependable Beltsville. But based on Dorfnalb's report I thought I would try it out.

It was absolutely AWFUL; the worst AMP experience of my career.

I made an appointment with Kelly for 10:15 on Saturday night. I got there and was surprised that I was not asked if I had been there before. I guess they assumed that since I asked for Kelly I was good to go. Dorfnalb's description is spot on and since I am an old fart she turned out to be one of those "young" babes that you all talk about. I thought she was very nice looking and seemed to have a nice personality. Everything started out ok and I was getting a nice massage for the first 5 min. In that period the doorbell rang about 4 times. Kelly stepped out and when she came back I got the fastest massage I have had in 10 years of this sport. I was flipping in less than 15 min. I should have known better but I went with it even through the negotiations and the feeble HJ. So within 20 min she was finished (with my own help, if you know what I mean).

This is the point where it got really stupid. When she was going for my clothes I said we are not done. She replied that they were very busy and she would give me more next time. She didn't understand that being busy is not my problem and that I paid for an hour. She simply kept repeating "next time." However as soon as I said that I would have to report this on the Internet, she got very apologetic and gave me 5 more min. Of neck massage, all the time begging me not to say anything on the Internet. As you can see, my loyalty to my fellow mongers is greater than a nice looking babe working at an AMP.

Save your money and got to Baltimore or DC for better service. You can go up to Columbia and visit Kyoto Spa if all you want is a massage and you will get a good one there. Or just maybe the one in Beltsville will open again. [/QUOTE]I decided to quote the whole expression. It is sad to say that the old days (the '90s) are long gone. The new wave of AMP owner's collaborated together to raise rates and lesson services. They still quote 1 hr and. 5hr but what they mean is "Long time" (1 hr or less) or "short time" (which means less than. 5hr). This was explained to me a few years ago by a former friend and owner in the business. Basically, no one complained (except me) and took what they got and lost the chance to keep things the way they were. I decided that I don't like the services for the price and have stopped going. In my case, I have a girlfriend who is an owner out of state that no longer charges me and I get great treatment. Also, I have a porn star legend who I see once in a while and treats me as a "friend with benefits" I figured it was better to make that jump than to take the BS being delivered in HOCO and DC these days. PM for details or just chat on this board for no details.

Drummerboy

I do not want to fight, because I am sure you will kick my ass.
I have no idea what happened in that room.

One thing set off a red flag. 20 minute stay, but of course I have no idea why.

One thing that I do know however is that when you use the "post to internet" button, hair on backs will raise (it is like a punch below the belt). Every girl in this business will get very nervous on any talk of the internet, especially if she is getting posted on.

They are targets and we are targets, if we can't get a baseline of trust then I do not know what happens next. In general I never mention the word "internet" in their presence. But of course what do I know.

A person mentioned recently that all the best spas in PG county have volunteered to close.
I am not confused why, the environment there just is not favorable even though LE leaves them alone. I think we have a lot of influence over this in the way we interact.

Anyway, I apologize for any part of your report that I might not have understood.

[QUOTE=A Otay; 1140086]You quoted my post, but you couldn't possibly have been referring to it. I don't care if you want to consider yourself the champion of women that work in AMPs, but you might think about getting off that big white horse so you can read your computer a little better. There was nothing in my post either implied or explicit about a threat. What I said was that I would report my experience (accurately) on the Internet which is exactly what I did. I want other folks who read this board to be able to make more informed decisions about where they spend their money. I think that's the point of this site; tell the good, the bad and the ugly.

You probably don't realize when you are being delusional, but you were when you were thinking you knew what my behavior was like. See, if you were there you would have heard Kelly say several times that I was very funny and that I made her laugh. She even gave me a big kiss as I left. That may have been because even though the service was awful, or more correctly non-existent, I paid the TIP that we settled on because she did everything she promised and that I asked for. I was a perfect gentelman even though they were only giving me half the time I paid for. I am sorry, but I don't think you have any cause to champion here. [/QUOTE]

You have given me a different perspective that didn't occur to me. The language barrier makes it easy to misunderstand even a single word and you are probably correct about their reaction to the word Internet. I thought of it as a place where I can save people from wasting their money and maybe even hurt their business a little to make up for my experience. They probably hear Internet and think,"Damn, he is going to drop the dime on me and I will get in trouble." Point taken.

[QUOTE=Drofnalb; 1140498]One thing that I do know however is that when you use the "post to internet" button, hair on backs will raise (it is like a punch below the belt). Every girl in this business will get very nervous on any talk of the internet, especially if she is getting posted on.

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I recently visited on of my long time favorite places off of 108. I had the luck (sortof) to have the same girl I've seen for the last three or four times I was there. She is quite voluptuous (which is awesome) , but has gotten more and more reserved over time. She does provide an excellent and enjoyable pre-massage experience, and her massages are excellent. And, she is quite gifted with the use of her hands.

But here's the thing: I really enjoy that playful attitude that some girls have. Grabbing your hand on the way to / from the shower / sauna, little touches here and there, or arm around the waist, etc. This lady doesn't do too much of that with me. And I'm wondering if it's me or is this a common experience. I'm usually left following her to the shower / sauna, back to the room. It's just not as warm and friendly an experience.

Let's just say that the first couple times I saw her. Maybe back in December. She was less reserved about using her assets for full effect.

You guys will probably know of whom I speak. If not. Shoot me a PM.

Looks: 9.

Massage: 9.

Service: 5 (depends on what you are looking for. I was vaguely dissatisfied.)

Recently stopped by Kyoto. Met with Sunny. Real hard massage. She has a great personality and her English is pretty good. Nice curvey body with a slight tummy noticed under the uniform. All in all a good massage but I still gravitate toward the smaller planets.

Nah He

[QUOTE=Nah He; 1141683]Recently stopped by Kyoto. Met with Sunny. Real hard massage. She has a great personality and her English is pretty good. Nice curvey body with a slight tummy noticed under the uniform. All in all a good massage but I still gravitate toward the smaller planets.

Nah He[/QUOTE]Is this the Sunny from a few years ago?

[QUOTE=DrummerBoy;1142030]Is this the Sunny from a few years ago?[/QUOTE]Wasn't she the Sunny from SpaOne (Hana) , too? I may have to say Hello.

[QUOTE=Ginger Man;1142592]Wasn't she the Sunny from SpaOne (Hana) , too? I may have to say Hello.[/QUOTE]Say it ain't so! I have not gone to an AMP since Sunny left Hana because NO ONE could compare (in my book). If I could be sure, I would go this weekend. What a gem: fantastic provider, great person, gentle soul.

Stay safe and make good decisions.

Lover Bug

[QUOTE=Ginger Man;1142592]Wasn't she the Sunny from SpaOne (Hana) , too? I may have to say Hello.[/QUOTE]I think we are talking the same girl. Sunny used to work in Hana Spa as Kathy several years ago before she moved to Kyoto. She was kinda short with a great ass and legs."Sunny" disposition, small breasts, bad temper. She could "bring it" if she liked you. I am not sure if she is back in Kyoto now, just saw the name "Sunny " and "Kyoto" and asked if the same.

When I posted about Sunny at Kyoto it was my first contact with her so I can not say if she was any place else. She had a real nice personality and her English skills were good. Her body was fuller than I like but not fat if you know what I mean. I had no complaints with my service.

Nah He