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AT ONE POINT THIS BOARD WAS NEW TO and HAD FEW VISITORS, and NOW LOOK AT IT.

The CHAT Line is just starting, and Folks are uncertain of it, but by Summertime I Bet it will be Crowded and in FULL AFFECT.

ALL WEEE ARE SAYINGGG, IS .... "GIVE IT AH CHANCEEEEE" ... sMiLe ....3

WORD .... !!!!


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[QUOTE=Giani]Took a look at the new Chat Room (third button from the left in the menu at the top).

Turtleshark and I were the only ones logged on, and I was the only one to post a message...

Not ready for prime time--but COULD be useful at some time or another, IF there are users who can make use of it and want it.

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POSTING a Name of a person, and Posting thatr Name to a Pix, can get her Probation revoked. Anyone can have Tatoos, that is WHY we all avoid posting Faces Too .... I had to Learn the same lesson, from the actions of other, and there results, so it is a SLOW process, and WE ARE ALL STILL LEARNING.


"KEEP YOUR INFO TO THE BAREST OF MINIMUMS ....

MORE OF THE UNWRITTEN CODES of CONDUCT ....

HERE ARE A FEW MORE PIX OF SOMEONE ELSE ....

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I want to share something with you guys about what occurred to me over a week ago. This did not happen in OTR area. One night around 9pm I was cruising in an area for some take home and saw a familar SW. The area was quiet and dark, no signs of LE or any traffic driving near by. Made a nod at her and pulled over to park several feet up away from her to watch to make sure she was ok. All was ok, just when she was about to open my car door to get in another car pulled up next to me on my side! My first thought "I'm busted". In the car ( a dark color Honda) were two women in street clothes. First, one got out on the passenger side next to me and begins talking to the SW, not to me! I'm thinking waht's going on. My window was cracked open and I hear the one woman ( looks to be in her mid-thirties) asking the SW about a woman named "Robin"? The SW and this woman are talking for a few seconds and then the woman ask me, "Oh - were you picking her up?" in a sarcastic voice. I said, "No". Then proceeded to drive away. I wasn't completely blocked and could drive forward back onto the street. Drove slowly and just looked around to see if any LE were coming at me. I had been busted a long, long time ago and knew the proceedure LE had. But to my continuious surprise nothing happened! I drove several blocks down the street and circled the block on another street. I wanted to see what was going on. At a distance down about a street block where this happened, I saw both women out on the side walk still talking to the SW! Then I went home and wondering who were these two women. Were they under cover, citizen watch patrol group, or a religious group trying to save SW? My luck that they weren't LE. I'm very lucky!

Next night, I saw the same SW. She wasn't busted or anything and still working the streets! What's going on. This time we do hook-up and I find out from her what happen. The two other women in the car were working for lawyers. They were trying to track down a witness to a case in "Texas". I know, very strange story. Not sure if I fully believe it, but that's what the SW told me. She was confused herself about it all. The women never tried to take her away or stop her from working the streets. Go figure. Never had something like this happen to me before.

The main thing about this experience I want to point out is this. How easy a monger can be caught in the act.

OTR has under cover working the area. From a couple of SW I know told me the LE were driving around in black SUV's with guys ducking down in the car so as to appear that only one guy is driving alone in the car. What the LE doing is drive up to the dealers or SWs and they jump out of the back seats and bust the dealer or Sw on the spot. It's not enough to look for obvious LE but under cover or private citizens who may be watching as well.

Be careful. Watch for suspicous cars, people in the area. Maybe these two women were parked nearby and were just watching and I didn't notice them as I drove up. It's too consequential that I pulled up the same time they ask a SW on the street about another girl they're looking for! I believe they were regural citizens of the area on their own trying to stop the mongers from picking up the girls. It's too bizzarre of a story.

Anotherthing, we need to be careful of posting pictures of our "Trophy" SWs we find. Pictures of the SW's tatoos showing is the same as showing the faces! They can be identified easily especially tatoos on the arm or neck. No wonder all the good ones out there are getting busted. LE, I believe are reading what we write on this site. If not we need to communicate with extreme caution about NAMES, locations, identifiabe photos or anything that can help LE.
I really hope this helps all of you.
Again be careful

Harpo2U

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FIRST OF ALL .... I can't comment on his story, because it sounds like an episode from the "The Outer Limits or Twight Zone" .... True but very, very WEIRD. Everyone has their Stories. I've got my OWN !!!!
ALSO Harpo, break up your posting a little more to make them easier to read.
Just a suggestion !!!!

.... He is right about Tatoos, and the combination of Tatoos, and which sides they are on. Still, alot of the Tatoos are very simuliar, if NOT Exactly alike, and a lot of the SW out there seem to all be wearing them, ID-ing the girls by tatoos and being arrested will take a really BAD lawyer to make it stick, but it does create a tail to follow their activities. TOO MANY of these girls are Loaded with all those Damn Tatoos. It does help to ID someone ine a Mayor case, especially the really unique tatoos.

It is a good idea to ask about the tatoos, when taking Pictures. I ask and MOST including the last bunch Did Not Mind. They appreciated that I even asked. NOW I can take pictures anytime, and whateverelse I choose to.


.... WHAT IS NOW MORE IMPORTANT .... Is that some of the SW out there have been working with the Police to get the Dealers, and the Dealers know who they are. POLICE .... STOP USING THESE WOMEN, because YOU are putting there LIVES in Serious Danger, and offer very little Protection, either Short or Long term. Once on the street, there will be some type of Revenge, and these girl may just Dissappear. How can you explain this to someones family that you got them killed, over some very minor to make an arrest. I can see if it is a mayor murder case, or Huge Drug Bust, but telling on small time dealer, they can catch them without SW help.

Putting them in danger, knowing they use the streets, to live on, gives them little choice.

I have heard of three Girls that have supposed to be working with the Police, and are Being Hunted Down by some Dealers. I really HOPE it is NOT True, because these are really NICE girls, they just have a drug problem. Le does NOT even give them Help for that. They just avoid Jail Time, Not Drug Time.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ....



WORD !!!!

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[b] EVERYONE WANTS THE KILLING STOPPED and the DRUG DEALING GONE, but NOT at the expense of getting these Working Girls Killed. Once these girls Snitch on one of these Drug Dealers, they will go after them, and the Police can NOT and AIN'T REALLY INTERESTED IN PROTECTING THEM. That is a Shame !!!!

.... I can SEEEEEE if this is a BIG MURDER case, but just a few small time drug dealers, it ain't worth it. It does not even qualify for the Protection Program, and without help these girls will be right back on the street, and someone will snitch to someone on them .... and then they will be just another statistic. The Cops are putting these girls in HARMS Way, and ain't nobody gonna PROTECT THEM. "NO ONE."

.... UNFORTUNATELY, NO ONE CARES OTHER THAN THEIR OWN RELATIVES.
I have yet to hear about one Police Officer Snitching on another, and if one dones the WORST will happen to them within the C.P.D. So why would they think Street Justice will NOT happen .... It Will HaPPen !!!!

>> I TRULY HOPE SOMEONE INNOCENT, IS NOT HURT, BECAUSE THEY WERE WITH THE GIRL, WHEN STREET JUSTICE HAPPENS. OR ... NO OFFICER HARMED BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO PROTECT ONE OF THE GIRLS, THEY PUT "IN HARMS WAY."


THERE IS "NO" SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM !!!!



WORD .... UP !!!!


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Criagslist has never proven to be as good as chat lines or citybeat, but occasionnaly there is a find to be had.

Mostly though it is ALOT of advertising for pay webcams and so forth. I've almost given up on it completely, except for one little saga that I've been following.

There is a girl name Luca who advertises constantly, especially in casual encounters. She is a local girl, but her rates are $$$ and up. The only reason I pay any attention to her is often times she changes up her ad, so I end up exchanging a few emails with her only to find out its the big money girl again. It gets annoying after awhile.

Anyways, I guess others on the board are getting tired of her too, because her ads are getting flagged alot now. I didn't know what that meant until she started complaining, but I guess if enough people flag an ad, the craigslist moderator removes it.

Well first she slammed all her potential clients hard. Now they are starting to slam her hard. Anyways, if anybody has tried her, I'd love to hear how she rates. She seems like a real BS'r whose going down in flames.

I'd love to know who has hooked up with Luca. I too always find her picture attached to an email and her $$$ rate. Please guys, tell us how she is.

Frankly, you guys who even TALK about $$$ are out of my league--but why not give us a link so we can see what you are talking about? I have seen many posts on other forums about Craigslist girls--most (all?) negative.

So for us "hoi poli," show us what you are talking about.

P.S. OTR is still pretty much too hot unless you are VERY careful these days.

Some regular SWs may have their lives in danger trying to cop out of busts to give LE nickle and dime info. I agree with Word--LE should be ashamed to put these girls lives in danger, using them for snitches...

[QUOTE=Likes to Play]Criagslist has never proven to be as good as chat lines or citybeat, but occasionnaly there is a find to be had.

Mostly though it is ALOT of advertising for pay webcams and so forth. I've almost given up on it completely, except for one little saga that I've been following.

There is a girl name Luca who advertises constantly, especially in casual encounters. She is a local girl, but her rates are $$$ and up. The only reason I pay any attention to her is often times she changes up her ad, so I end up exchanging a few emails with her only to find out its the big money girl again. It gets annoying after awhile.

Anyways, I guess others on the board are getting tired of her too, because her ads are getting flagged alot now. I didn't know what that meant until she started complaining, but I guess if enough people flag an ad, the craigslist moderator removes it.

Well first she slammed all her potential clients hard. Now they are starting to slam her hard. Anyways, if anybody has tried her, I'd love to hear how she rates. She seems like a real BS'r whose going down in flames.[/QUOTE]

Hey Giani, Word... looks like you've been busy. Giani, great informative posts as always. Word is a source of street wisdom.

Anyway, Mark44Michael wanted to know about Luca. I have met up with Luca.
It was last year, before I moved away from Cincy. If you're expecting me to say
that she was terrible, ugly, fat, smelly, drugged up, or in any way unsatisfactory, then this post will disappoint you. When I first read your post
I had to check CL to see if the Luca you were talking about was the same
one I had met. Sadly, it was.

I say sadly because the object of those nasty e-mails was undeserving of the
vile comments being heaped on her.

Luca was.... fun! I had a great time with her. I replied to her ad, she sent me
some pics, we talked on the phone, and we had a great time. Although she
was only contracted for an hour (and was paid for an hour), she was over
for close to two. She was very receptive to ideas of things I wanted to try,
and she was more than willing to go that extra mile of making the meeting
feel completely unrushed.

But that's because money aside, I treated her with a little respect, made her
feel like she was a friend, and more importantly, I did not just focus on her
T&A.

Was she worth the $$.5? To me it was. But that's my money and I can afford
to spend that cash. If that's not inside your budget, then just leave it alone.
If all you're willing to send is .3 for a BJ service in your car parked in some
alleyway, then that's your business. I don't care because it doesn't affect me
in any way, shape, or form.

Luca chose to go into this line of work and chose to put a rate of $$.5 or $$$
for her time and effort, then she has every right.

If you're not willing to pay her asking price, MOVE ON!

Think of it as moving on to a different spot after you see a SW on a street
corner but you also see LE parked close by. You just MOVE ON because the
price isn't worth it to you.

-D'Nut


[QUOTE=mark44michael]I'd love to know who has hooked up with Luca. I too always find her picture attached to an email and her $$$ rate. Please guys, tell us how she is.[/QUOTE]

DNut- So you had a good experience with this girl, but you didn't post it here for the others to try out until her craigslist antics were mentioned. What gives? I think after she insulted every guy out there, she doesn't deserve someone coming to her rescue. Especially those who weren't there to get shitted on by her.

As you saw, some people have been quite harsh with her, and I don't agree with that approach. But this girl does deserve grief.

Her methods violate about every principle of craigslist, and that just makes for an unpleasant experience for everyone. Personally, I have politely emailed her, only to have her get snotty with me right back. If she has been like that with other guys then she has brought this upon herself. Its like when you don't do anything to attract attention to yourself when picking up a sw, most girls also seem to know you don't go and piss off every person you can. It's just asking for trouble.

I'm sure she is worth the time for those with the dime, but for me- I've paid more for less, and less for more. Her story just doesn't add up.

Well, the reason I didn't post it here is because I no longer live in Cincinnati. I
have moved away and don't check this board, or any other board re: Cincinnati on a regular basis. It's been awhile since I read the posts here.

Generally speaking, this board is more geared towards the street action. Luca
isn't a street walker. IF I were to post something about her, my first stop would have been The Big Doggie, which is geared more towards Escorts and escorting.

Also, I didn't make my post until after I did a little reading and research.

What I came to find is that she posted her availability, someone decided to
start flagging her posts as spam even though clearly he never met her nor was there any indication that she was anything other than what she posted; an escort available for appointments. Because of the flagging she defended herself and other idiots got into the action by deciding to make bad posts and flagging.

At the risk of sounding childish, they started it.

That goes with what I said about treating these girls with a little bit of respect. Like the SWs we post about here, they are real people with real problems who chose to solve some of their financial problems by using their bodies. They have something we want, and we have something they want. It's a simple service for cash transaction. No need to make it personal.

You get as much as you give,

-D'Nut


[QUOTE=Likes to Play]DNut- So you had a good experience with this girl, but you didn't post it here for the others to try out until her craigslist antics were mentioned. What gives? I think after she insulted every guy out there, she doesn't deserve someone coming to her rescue. Especially those who weren't there to get shitted on by her.

Dnut- I think what you have said in your post is reasonable, but I think you have missed out on what started this whole thing. I noticed most of Luca's posts are now gone, so here is a short history.

The first time I responded to one of her ads was back in March. Basically she replied that she was asking $$$, so I moved on. For a long while I could easily spot her posts, so I would just skip over them. Occasionally she would change them up, but as soon I realized it was her, I would move on.

THen she started posting multiple ads at a time. One would say she was 25, the other 27. Sometimes she was the Escort from West Chester, other times the insatiable sex kitten. So now it was getting to the point every ad I responded to ended up being her. Then she would do things like post $$ in the ad heading, and then $$$ with the reply.

When the same girl posts three ads a day, and each one looks like a completely different girl, alot of time gets wasted emailing back and forth. So finally I told her that I didn't want to waste her time, and I asked if she could be a little more clear in her ads. She baiscally responded that I could go pound salt, but for awhile she did start placing the $$$ in her ads.

But last week it was back to the same. Multiple ads, misleading ads, and so forth. After getting caught in a few of her ads again, I asked her again to start being more clear with her ads. She again told me to basically pound salt. She also threw in some insults about me not being able to afford her blah blah blah.

Now keep in mind- at this point I've never flagged her, or said anything publicly about her. I can afford a $$$ girl, but I choose not to. Its like how I drive a Toyota instead of Lexus, but choose platinum over gold. Some things are worth the extra dollar, other things not.

About this time, she started posting messages about her getting flagged. Calling all guys on the site ugly losers, etc. I think she did this about 2 or 3 days in a row, and then that a-hole posted his message that attacked her in ways I don't approve of. I don't know what set him off, but if his experience was the same as mine, I have an idea.

SO- is she a good escort, probably. But I could care less. If she hadn't been so misleading, I'd never had responded to her ads. If she used the site the same way the other girls do, she wouldn't have attracted attention. But she directly insulted me, and in general every guy who enjoys the services of the working girls. And for that she deserves no defense.

It was nice of you to step up to the plate for her- but from my stance it wasn't your place to do it. I disagree with your post on craigslist too. Its like only calling the penalty on the player that hit back.

She asked for it, she got it. Maybe she can chalk it up as a learning experience.

One thing I want to be very clear on as a side note to my previous post. I completely agree with Dnut that these women should be treated with respect. They've picked a way of making money that some people agree with and others do not, but regardless they are trying to earn a living like anyone else. I think guys that treat them like shit are assholes, and don't deserve female companionship.

Some girls behave better than others, and its easier to avoid the bad ones than deal with them. I don't think the sex kitten is a bad one, I just think she didn't realize how her abuse of craigslist might come back and bite her.

Regardless, the guy that wished upon her HIV and Herpes was way out of line. I think it was the same one who called her a cum gobbling **** too. No girl deserves that kind of treatment, not even her.

First off, thanks DNut...please email me and refresh my memory a bit! I appreciate your support.

Likes2Play- I remember our email correspondence...I am only rude to those who are rude to me. And as I recall, I conceded that you were correct, that I needed to be more upfront about my $$$ rates and that I need to make clear that I am indeed an escort. But I don't recall being rude to you, and if I was, it was because you were rude to me. Actually, if I recall correctly, you somewhat threatened me that I needed to stop my posts, or you were "going to have to take action" or something similiar to that effect. I'll have to go back through my emails to be certain what was said.

I think I'm an extremely fair, extremely honest person. Yes, I started making several posts a day, simply to annoy the flaggers. All of the "drama" on the board started when I made a post about the flaggers. Here is an exact copy of that post....

Wow, guys who flag posts are soo hot! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. You guys seriously seriously need to get something better to do with your life! I understand you aren't the best looking nor the best catches since you are trolling Craigslist constantly for sex, but come on, don't you have anything better to do?!! I really feel sorry for you. As do many other CL readers!!

Yes, you flag my posts constantly, but it doesn't really bother me, it's humorous, and I get a kick out of your jealousy and bitterness. We sit here and laugh at the pitiful lives you must lead. I have my ad copied and ready to paste, so it takes me 2 seconds to repost. I can repost and repost, and have my booker repost and repost, but seriously...if you'd take all that effort you take into flagging people's ads, and put it into yourself, maybe you wouldn't have to be sitting alone at a computer constantly!

Cincinnati SexKitten aka Luca

I NEVER insulted the general audience of CL readers. I never called ANYONE ugly, I never said anything about anyone but the flaggers. After my post, it just snowballed out of control. The flaggers were pissed because I called them out, and a select group of men who may be bitter because of my rates, or because I have declined to see them, decided to jump on the bandwagon and make posts as well. I'm just sick of constantly being flagged. Yes, maybe I shouldn't post in Casual Encounters. But I also post in Erotic Services, and nine times out of ten, my replies are from the Casual Encounter section. So to say that no one wants me to post in that section is incorrect, a lot of my business comes from that section. Too much business for me to stop posting.

I got into escorting simply because I love it. I'm sorry if people think my rates are high, but I'm worth it, and it's a great way to weed out the types of men that I see. I'm not saying I'm a goldigger, but even an escort has standards. I know that I go above and beyond what I need to do in a session, I enjoy it just as much as the client. As Dnut said, a lot of times I stay longer than the hour, because I'm enjoying myself, and that's what it's all about. I never really paid attention to my posting $$ in my ads rather than $$$, because honestly I never knew there were girls out there that work for $$. I just posted $$ to indicate I'm an escort, not the amount of money I charge.

I'm not a *****, until someone crosses me.

Read my posts again Luca, I don't think you even get my point here. I don't hold what you do against you, I don't hold what you charge against you. I don't even hold you using craigslist's casual encounters for finding clients against you.

You may have been trying to get back at the people flagging you, but you ended up wasting the time of people like me. By posting so many ads and leaving out pertinent information, you monopolized the board and made it difficult to find any other providers. That was what annoyed me.

It was only after you got rude with me when I emailed you (for the second time) that I decided to post about it here. And read your emails again, because I never threatened you. Quite the opposite- I told you that if you left enough clues in your ads that I could tell it was you, I would know not to reply. What was my final line in that email?!? "then at the end of the day we both end up happy"

So I stood up for you against the assholes who treated you with a complete lack of respect, and I attempted to work with you in private about my concern- which you blew off. Now you come here and say it was my fault. So once again I say, if you are going to monopolize and abuse craigslist, then its going to cause problems. If you use it fairly, like the other providers, then as not even having been your client, I will stick up for you against those who just have a chip on their shoulders. Can I be any more fair than that?