Ripoff Reports

She usually posts on CL. These are her last two posts.

[url]http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cas/1919593322.html[/url]
[url]http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cas/1908521578.html[/url]

She won't mention cost until she gets to you. Made the mistake of leaving $ on my bed and she tried to leave saying that fs is more. I said I changed my mind and she pulled the disclaimer bs "it's for my time", but I could get CBJ for it. I went with the boring CBJ that she gave and I strongly recommend that you all pass on her. You will meet ROB.

In town for AVN. Called Kimmy off backpage early one morning.

Negotiated 200 and I specifically asked her if the 200 is "all-inclusive" to which she replied yes.

Met at my hotel, and put the 200 on the counter. Then she asks if I had money for a tip so she could "get more comfortable". I asked her what my 200 paid for, even though she said it was all inclusive. She said just a BJ and anything more would be extra.

It was frustrating that I was being upsold, so I told her to just give the BJ, after about 5 min of continuing to upsell, she finally started CBJ. After about 2 minutes (not exaggerating) she asked if I was ready to cum. I looked at her like she was an idiot and said no. She again tried to upsell, which began to really just piss me off and make it harder to relax. She asked if it would be better to have her finish me with her hand with no condom. I said,"whatever". Seriously, after about 10 strokes, she asked if I was ready to come. I told her to just forget it, I'm done, just get out.

Total ripoff, total upsell. Unfortunately, that's part of the risk in the hobby biz. Maybe I can help my fellow mongers avoid an upsell. Even If I did pay more, I got the feeling that the experience would have been rather lame. Avoid Kimmy:

Hi Guys,

My name is Kimmy. The sweet and sexy brunette you have been missing.

I am a sweet and classy girl with a bit of a wildside and curves in all the right places. Looking to have a little fun, so if you are also then I'm your girl!

Call Me.

*702*202*1291

P. S. The pictures look somewhat like her, but not really. She's latina, and heavier than in the pic. The pics may be her, but a few years old.

Unfortunate and typical lv scam.

After rtff consider google and tineye your friend or choose a well reviewed provider.

Blnt

[QUOTE=Kaydee; 1119845]In town for AVN. Called Kimmy off backpage early one morning.

Negotiated 200 and I specifically asked her if the 200 is "all-inclusive" to which she replied yes.

Met at my hotel, and put the 200 on the counter. Then she asks if I had money for a tip so she could "get more comfortable". I asked her what my 200 paid for, even though she said it was all inclusive. She said just a BJ and anything more would be extra.

It was frustrating that I was being upsold, so I told her to just give the BJ, after about 5 min of continuing to upsell, she finally started CBJ. After about 2 minutes (not exaggerating) she asked if I was ready to cum. I looked at her like she was an idiot and said no. She again tried to upsell, which began to really just piss me off and make it harder to relax. She asked if it would be better to have her finish me with her hand with no condom. I said,"whatever". Seriously, after about 10 strokes, she asked if I was ready to come. I told her to just forget it, I'm done, just get out.

Total ripoff, total upsell. Unfortunately, that's part of the risk in the hobby biz. Maybe I can help my fellow mongers avoid an upsell. Even If I did pay more, I got the feeling that the experience would have been rather lame. Avoid Kimmy:

Hi Guys,

My name is Kimmy. The sweet and sexy brunette you have been missing.

I am a sweet and classy girl with a bit of a wildside and curves in all the right places. Looking to have a little fun, so if you are also then I'm your girl!

Call Me.

*702*202*1291

P. S. The pictures look somewhat like her, but not really. She's latina, and heavier than in the pic. The pics may be her, but a few years old.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kaydee; 1119845]In town for AVN. Called Kimmy off backpage early one morning.

Negotiated 200 and I specifically asked her if the 200 is "all-inclusive" to which she replied yes.

Met at my hotel, and put the 200 on the counter. Then she asks if I had money for a tip so she could "get more comfortable". I asked her what my 200 paid for, even though she said it was all inclusive. She said just a BJ and anything more would be extra.

It was frustrating that I was being upsold, so I told her to just give the BJ, after about 5 min of continuing to upsell, she finally started CBJ. After about 2 minutes (not exaggerating) she asked if I was ready to cum. I looked at her like she was an idiot and said no. She again tried to upsell, which began to really just piss me off and make it harder to relax. She asked if it would be better to have her finish me with her hand with no condom. I said,"whatever". Seriously, after about 10 strokes, she asked if I was ready to come. I told her to just forget it, I'm done, just get out.

Total ripoff, total upsell. Unfortunately, that's part of the risk in the hobby biz. Maybe I can help my fellow mongers avoid an upsell. Even If I did pay more, I got the feeling that the experience would have been rather lame. Avoid Kimmy:

[quote]Hi Guys,

My name is Kimmy. The sweet and sexy brunette you have been missing.

I am a sweet and classy girl with a bit of a wildside and curves in all the right places. Looking to have a little fun, so if you are also then I'm your girl!

Call Me.

*702*202*1291

P. S. The pictures look somewhat like her, but not really. She's latina, and heavier than in the pic. The pics may be her, but a few years old.[/quote][/QUOTE]I've seen her ad and good thing I didn't partake. Thanks for the warning.

DJP

[QUOTE=Dj Platinum; 1120584]I've seen her ad and good thing I didn't partake. Thanks for the warning.

DJP[/QUOTE]Seems like this is happening a lot out there. A friend of mine visited over New Years said the same thing happened to him. $$ upfront then she changed into some lingerie and said anything else would be extra. FS anothe $$$.

All he got was a very expensive lap dance. For 3 songs! She was there less then 20 minutes.

When I come out there I will stay away from BP.

[QUOTE=Vbgent4u2c; 1120790]Seems like this is happening a lot out there. A friend of mine visited over New Years said the same thing happened to him. $$ upfront then she changed into some lingerie and said anything else would be extra. FS anothe $$$.

All he got was a very expensive lap dance. For 3 songs! She was there less then 20 minutes.

When I come out there I will stay away from BP. [/QUOTE]Can't you just tell the girl to take a hike if she tries to upsell? It seems that people are just allowing these hoes to walk all over them and making them pay. If she said $$ and then came back and said another $$$ for FS, I'd tell the ***** to get the fuck out.

[QUOTE=Atlasiangirth;1120834]Can't you just tell the girl to take a hike if she tries to upsell? It seems that people are just allowing these hoes to walk all over them and making them pay. If she said $$ and then came back and said another $$$ for FS, I'd tell the ***** to get the fuck out.[/QUOTE]That's the risk of the upsell. You have to put your money down on the table before ANYTHING is even discussed. I asked her before hand if 200 includes everything. She said yes. You give her the 200, and then she starts asking for a tip. What, am I going to wrestle her for the 200 out of her purse and tell her to get out? No, you've got to cut your losses and post on the forum to watch out for other hobbyists. I feel somewhat better knowing that I helped at least one person avoid the upsell, and I hurt her business just a tiny bit.

[QUOTE=Kaydee;1123666]That's the risk of the upsell. You have to put your money down on the table before ANYTHING is even discussed. I asked her before hand if 200 includes everything. She said yes. You give her the 200, and then she starts asking for a tip. What, am I going to wrestle her for the 200 out of her purse and tell her to get out?[/QUOTE]If she is asking for a tip, that is not upselling. It is an upsell if she demands a tip for previously agreed services. Then yes you wrestle her for the $$ and throw her out.

I never put the money on the table until the rules are discussed. If she doesn't like it let her leave.

The best way to avoid all of this is research, research, research.

[QUOTE=Kaydee;1123666]That's the risk of the upsell. You have to put your money down on the table before ANYTHING is even discussed. I asked her before hand if 200 includes everything. She said yes. You give her the 200, and then she starts asking for a tip. What, am I going to wrestle her for the 200 out of her purse and tell her to get out? No, you've got to cut your losses and post on the forum to watch out for other hobbyists. I feel somewhat better knowing that I helped at least one person avoid the upsell, and I hurt her business just a tiny bit.[/QUOTE]You just had a bad provider. I had many providers don't even ask for $ until deed is done.

DJP

[QUOTE=GrayTurner; 1123857]If she is asking for a tip, that is not upselling. It is an upsell if she demands a tip for previously agreed services. Then yes you wrestle her for the $$ and throw her out.

I never put the money on the table until the rules are discussed. If she doesn't like it let her leave.

The best way to avoid all of this is research, research, research. [/QUOTE]I agree that you don't give her anything upfront. A legit provider won't ask for the fee upfront. Some won't even discuss it. If a provider walks in and demands the fee upfront that is not a good sign.

I also agree on researching the providers. Lots of good legit ones in Vegas.

I don't agree with trying to physically take money back. That could cause a lot more trouble than what its worth.

[QUOTE=Vbgent4u2c; 1124127]I agree that you don't give her anything upfront. A legit provider won't ask for the fee upfront. Some won't even discuss it. If a provider walks in and demands the fee upfront that is not a good sign.

I also agree on researching the providers. Lots of good legit ones in Vegas.

I don't agree with trying to physically take money back. That could cause a lot more trouble than what its worth. [/QUOTE]Wow, I'm glad you said that. That's how it's done in the ATL where you pay the provider after service is done and service is done after negotiations. I was feeling that it was a Vegas thing where you always have to pay upfront to a provider, then negotiate, and then service.

Atlasiangirth

[QUOTE=Atlasiangirth; 1124292]Wow, I'm glad you said that. That's how it's done in the ATL where you pay the provider after service is done and service is done after negotiations. I was feeling that it was a Vegas thing where you always have to pay upfront to a provider, then negotiate, and then service.

Atlasiangirth[/QUOTE]I saw two providers in Vegas this past weekend and neither one of them even mentioned the fee. If either one of them had asked for it up front I would have shown them the door.

[QUOTE=Vbgent4u2c;1124363]I saw two providers in Vegas this past weekend and neither one of them even mentioned the fee. If either one of them had asked for it up front I would have shown them the door.[/QUOTE]You mind providing me the providers you encountered. You can PM me the info if you like.

Would appreciate it.

AtlasianGirth

[QUOTE=Atlasiangirth; 1124681]You mind providing me the providers you encountered. You can PM me the info if you like.

Would appreciate it.

AtlasianGirth[/QUOTE]Just check your local review boards.

I was reading this review in another forum, the dude bank wire 1, 000$ to a hooker and now he's shock that she didn't show up.

Here is the post:

This is a first review here and unfortunately not a positive one. I guess I am another statistics in the las vegas scams, figures for a guy who considers himself rather intelligent. I happened to see her ad on citivibe escort and was intrigued. However, I should have shied away due to the fact that she really does NOT have any reviews, but was lead to believe that she was the real deal. Another deterrent factor should have been the lack of communication, virtually non-existent. However, just like any other newbie that is naive or possibly stupid, I fell for her BS story that she moved and what not. Long story short I wired her $1000 in advanced, which was 50% of the agreed rate. I thought that she is a high class gal, therefore, you get what you pay for, WRONG!

All communication with her seized on the expected day, forget phone call, nothing! And of course was a no show!