Drama 101 in Cleveland

Yes, you are correct on a micro scale. I was talking more broadly.

If Congress appropriates a ton of money for OSHA the pres and his staff can slow walk it to death or change the rules. Selective enforcement. Etc. Like having mick mulvanney run two branches and gut the CFPB.

[QUOTE=LowRider69;3877503]

Yes they can. They can impeach.

Impoundment is an act by a President of the United States of not spending money that has been appropriated by the U.S. Congress. Thomas Jefferson was the first president to exercise the power of impoundment in 1801. The power was available to all presidents up to and including Richard Nixon, and was regarded as a power inherent to the office. The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 was passed in response to perceived abuse of the power under President Nixon. Title X of the Act removed that power, and Train v. City of New York (whose facts predate the 1974 Act, but which was argued before the U.S. Supreme Court after its passage), closed potential loopholes in the 1974 Act. The president's ability to indefinitely reject congressionally approved spending was thus removed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IMADipshit;3877675]Yes, you are correct on a micro scale. I was talking more broadly.

If Congress appropriates a ton of money for OSHA the pres and his staff can slow walk it to death or change the rules. Selective enforcement. Etc. Like having mick mulvanney run two branches and gut the CFPB.[/QUOTE]I am correct completely.

You got to be a dipshit who can't admit he's wrong. Wutta maroon, er, I mean MORON! Admit you are a dumbass! If you respond, that is your admission to being a dumbass.

SO, to the ultimate question, NO, the president did not cause the debt.

[QUOTE=SecondTimer;3826975]My thing is although you may not like him why carry around all the hate and venom with you for four, and possibly eight, years? What good is that doing? Nothing he, or anyone for that matter, does is infuriating you as much as you think it is. Instead, you're LETTING it infuriate you. It's likely that your day to day life is not affected in the least yet you choose to be angry, bitter and waste energy on hatred. I didn't like Obama or his wife, but I'll be damned if I let his eight years ruin my mood, productivity or outlook. Ya dig?[/QUOTE]Ya dig that the POS potus ran his whole campaign & now his presidency in HATE & LIES?

He & his supporters are eating what he served up!!

He is not getting a free ride after all the crapolla he dished and still dishes out.

I'm a veteran I'm independent so no don't use the L word on me LOL.

[QUOTE=ManFourWoman;3882504]Ya dig that the POS potus ran his whole campaign & now his presidency in HATE & LIES?

He & his supporters are eating what he served up!!

He is not getting a free ride after all the crapolla he dished and still dishes out.

I'm a veteran I'm independent so no don't use the L word on me LOL.[/QUOTE]You are a liberal independent. I'd be ashamed to be the "L" word too. Your Trump Derangement Syndrome is all the proof necessary to refute your assertion. What is Trump serving up?!

Tax cuts, Regulation cuts, Rebuilding military, Border security, Immigration enforcement, Trade renegotiation, Immigration reform, NATO financial commitment, Tougher on Russia, Tougher on NK, Tougher on China, Economic growth, Health care reform, Etc., Etc., Etc.

But you don't like Trump's style. He's crude! He's a bully! You need a safe space! In your opinion, America is evil and needs to be punished! You don't want America to be great. Your liberal masters say they aspire to create an unaware and compliant citizenry. Lenin referred to people like liberals as useful idiots. You don't even know what the Constitution says, yeah, the Constitution you swore to protect. Socialist filth. You are too ignorant and UnAmerican to be entitled to vote, yet a generous US allows ungrateful you to vote. You should move to Mexico if you don't like the US pajama boy.

[QUOTE=LowRider69;3883804]You are a liberal independent. I'd be ashamed to be the "L" word too. Your Trump Derangement Syndrome is all the proof necessary to refute your assertion. What is Trump serving up?!

Tax cuts, Regulation cuts, Rebuilding military, Border security, Immigration enforcement, Trade renegotiation, Immigration reform, NATO financial commitment, Tougher on Russia, Tougher on NK, Tougher on China, Economic growth, Health care reform, Etc., Etc., Etc.

But you don't like Trump's style. He's crude! He's a bully! You need a safe space! In your opinion, America is evil and needs to be punished! You don't want America to be great. Your liberal masters say they aspire to create an unaware and compliant citizenry. Lenin referred to people like liberals as useful idiots. You don't even know what the Constitution says, yeah, the Constitution you swore to protect. Socialist filth. You are too ignorant and UnAmerican to be entitled to vote, yet a generous US allows ungrateful you to vote. You should move to Mexico if you don't like the US pajama boy.[/QUOTE]You keep serving up your alternative facts and swallow them loads seems you've acquired the taste.

TrumpTARDS make me LMAO.

Mueller has set the table and TrumpTARD#1 is deflecting with BS just as you are!!

[QUOTE=ManOnMan;3883816]You keep serving up your alternative facts and swallow them loads seems you've acquired the taste.

TrumpTARDS make me LMAO.

Mueller has set the table and TrumpTARD#1 is deflecting with BS just as you are!![/QUOTE]OH? You are a low information voter/dumbass who is no longer denying being liberal scum. You voted for Odumbo and Crooked Hillary.

You have already proven your ignorance by saying the president is responsible for national debt. You further proved your ignorance by your inability to back up the garbage you post. Keep hoping Mueller can get rid of Trump, but be advised, Mueller already admitted he can't! LOL.

You are a disgrace to the flag and uniform you unAmerican filth. Gomer Pyle, you are a sissy, traitor and welfare bum! I dare you to claim you are not. You and your spawn are welfare bums sucking up the free food, housing and medical care. Not man enough to pay for your own stuff. Sad.

[QUOTE=BudBowl2001;3889405]Amen brother. So tired of these girls thinking that little hole is so golden. We got the cash. And they should be kissing our assses. Not the other way / plain and simple they are ******. And a dime a dozen. One leaves. Two replace them. That's why the business has been around so long.[/QUOTE]$400? Damn why'all paying that are being taken advantage of. Would never cough that up for a nut.

Listen for 400 I'll let you fuck my girl and then I'll cook you dinner downstairs LOL.

Perfect example of guys having too much money. I hope that 400 includes the future abortion. Cause the 400 better be a monthly payment and I get to stop over and fill you up as I please.

Got to agree that for 400 I better be getting as much as I want when ever I want for at least a couple of weeks-maybe a month. Way over my budget and with that kind of money I could see at least 3 if not 4 different girls. Now I know all about 'you get what you pay for' but I'm not looking for a movie start / model that is just going to lay there til I finish. And we all know by now that they never look like the pics they post. So Al, about that GF and whatchya cooking for my dinner? LOL.

[QUOTE=AlSmits346;3890485]$400? Damn why'all paying that are being taken advantage of. Would never cough that up for a nut.

Listen for 400 I'll let you fuck my girl and then I'll cook you dinner downstairs LOL.

Perfect example of guys having too much money. I hope that 400 includes the future abortion. Cause the 400 better be a monthly payment and I get to stop over and fill you up as I please.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ZigBang1;3890490]Got to agree that for 400 I better be getting as much as I want when ever I want for at least a couple of weeks-maybe a month. Way over my budget and with that kind of money I could see at least 3 if not 4 different girls. Now I know all about 'you get what you pay for' but I'm not looking for a movie start / model that is just going to lay there til I finish. And we all know by now that they never look like the pics they post. So Al, about that GF and whatchya cooking for my dinner? LOL.[/QUOTE]For 400 whatever the hell you want. I cook a mean steak. And for 400 it's not limited to food. Got laundry? Need your car detailed? I'm your man. LOL. Just need a friend to hang with and watch the game? Haha.

Think I'm on to something.

[QUOTE=AlSmits346;3890485]$400? Damn why'all paying that are being taken advantage of. Would never cough that up for a nut.

Listen for 400 I'll let you fuck my girl and then I'll cook you dinner downstairs LOL.

Perfect example of guys having too much money. I hope that 400 includes the future abortion. Cause the 400 better be a monthly payment and I get to stop over and fill you up as I please.[/QUOTE]Mongers who shell out large sums of cash for any provider Jack up rates for the rest of us.

A former member here use to shell out 100 for head and 150 for FS and only last 5-10 min and I've had him and providers tell me that!!

Why? "I can afford it".

TF!! Right?

We mongers far outnumber the providers so they hold the cards but with that said go QV or HH and you can always say I only have 100.

"We got the cash. And they should be kissing our assses. Not the other way / plain and simple they are * And a dime a dozen. One leaves. Two replace them. ".

That's rediculas seriously LOL.

I know providers that get that kind of cash and they figured out its easier to see as few mongers as possible at a higher rate than more at a lower rate to get the cash they target.

With that said there are not as many ways to advertise themselves which bottlenecks them in a way and makes it easier for us to point out those providers we can hopefully all stay away from!!

$400 SMFH.

[QUOTE=LowRider69;3884173]OH? You are a low information voter/dumbass who is no longer denying being liberal scum. You voted for Odumbo and Crooked Hillary.

You have already proven your ignorance by saying the president is responsible for national debt. You further proved your ignorance by your inability to back up the garbage you post. Keep hoping Mueller can get rid of Trump, but be advised, Mueller already admitted he can't! LOL.

You are a disgrace to the flag and uniform you unAmerican filth. Gomer Pyle, you are a sissy, traitor and welfare bum! I dare you to claim you are not. You and your spawn are welfare bums sucking up the free food, housing and medical care. Not man enough to pay for your own stuff. Sad.[/QUOTE]Are you just bored and spewing insults to pass the time? I don't even think they're heartfelt anymore, just a form of verbal diarrhea. You can disagree with someone without them being "a disgrace to the flag and uniform you unAmerican filth" or they're "enemies of the people". This country's foundation is built on spirited debates; debates that include facts and citations (a way of proving "the truth" is based on some empirical data and not some hearsay). Name-calling isn't debating, it's just childish.

If you want to defend Trump I'm all ears, just back your platitudes up with verifiable facts and I'll be happy to consider your statements. But I'm pretty sure you'll just counter by insulting me in some way. I'm challenging you to raise the bar of this conversation. I would think I'd actually enjoy that.

There's a whole crew of mongers on here bragging about all the loads they've dumped in all their dates, both pussy and ass. They're trading all kinds of 'stuff' with each other and eating each others jizz so I doubt they're thinking about corona virus. Personally I'm kind of just watching, trying to ignore all the media induced hysteria (it's what they do best) and washing my hands a lot.

[QUOTE=MisterJao;4690755]With the coronavirus spreading, and no doubt soon to be in Ohio, I started thinking that this is going to cause some serious damage to our hobby.

I just canceled an appointment for next week with a touring provider, because I learned she is currently in California, where the greatest number of cases have been confirmed. Being over 60 AND diabetic, I am squarely in the "high risk" category. Am I paranoid? Considering people can transmit coronavirus before they even show any symptoms, hell to the yeah I'm paranoid.

If enough guys leave the hobby until this is over, I can imagine some providers will lose so much business they will end up homeless or worse. And others may get so desperate that they'll drop their prices to get the few clients still willing to risk it. I would not be surprised if many of the massage places shut down as well.

So what's the general feeling out there? Are you thinking of stepping away from the hobby for a while (especially if you are older or have health issues)? Or are you throwing caution to the wind, because you figure that if you don't get coronavirus from one of the girls, you're just going to get it from somewhere else anyway? Or are you thinking coronavirus is mostly hype and no worse than a flu outbreak ... thus no need to do anything differently?

Be safe, brothers![/QUOTE]

Done with the hobby for awhile. Its not the coronavirus its the "lack of respect virus" among providers today.

Wednesday afternoon I txt my (former, as in EX) ATF, Me, "How's Thursday 10 am for you", Her "perfect, call in AM to confirm". Thursday morning 9 am, Me "still on for 10 am? Her " I forgot I have to go shopping with Dad this morning, can we make this afternoon?" what she really means is she is "meeting daddy for her meds. " Like an A hole I reply alright how about 1 pm, she response 2 pm would be better, again like an a hole with a stiff one, I agree.

2 pm I txt her, "I'm here". 10 minutes later she responds, "just got home, taking a shower and putting stuff away, will just be a few minutes". My thoughts, she hasn't put anything in her apartment away for weeks, why now but I respond alright hurry up. 10 minutes later I txt "what's up?" few minutes later she text "I can't shower if you keep calling" 2:20 out of patience, I'm out. Its not the 20 minute plus she had me wait outside her door (parking lot), its the additional travel time coming and going and the fuking aggravation of disrespect for my time. I leave and of course I get the "what happened for you" text, about an hour later. I respond with a story of how to treat customer (clients) and the value of regulars over time, or lose their business but it went way over her drugged head.

Bottom line I'm done for awhile, I'm done leaving my dick control my days. (well at least til Monday's hardon.) Well at least with this non provider, see ya in Warren guys.

H.

[QUOTE=Hungryeye;4704023]Done with the hobby for awhile. Its not the coronavirus its the "lack of respect virus" among providers today.

Wednesday afternoon I txt my (former, as in EX) ATF, Me, "How's Thursday 10 am for you", Her "perfect, call in AM to confirm". Thursday morning 9 am, Me "still on for 10 am? Her " I forgot I have to go shopping with Dad this morning, can we make this afternoon?" what she really means is she is "meeting daddy for her meds. " Like an A hole I reply alright how about 1 pm, she response 2 pm would be better, again like an a hole with a stiff one, I agree.

2 pm I txt her, "I'm here". 10 minutes later she responds, "just got home, taking a shower and putting stuff away, will just be a few minutes". My thoughts, she hasn't put anything in her apartment away for weeks, why now but I respond alright hurry up. 10 minutes later I txt "what's up?" few minutes later she text "I can't shower if you keep calling" 2:20 out of patience, I'm out. Its not the 20 minute plus she had me wait outside her door (parking lot), its the additional travel time coming and going and the fuking aggravation of disrespect for my time. I leave and of course I get the "what happened for you" text, about an hour later. I respond with a story of how to treat customer (clients) and the value of regulars over time, or lose their business but it went way over her drugged head.

Bottom line I'm done for awhile, I'm done leaving my dick control my days. (well at least til Monday's hardon.) Well at least with this non provider, see ya in Warren guys.

H.[/QUOTE]Regular in elyria ghosted me, I'm done with her. I guess they think since you're a reg they can play you an think you'll still keep comin back. What really pisses me off when ghosted, its not the wasted time or gas. Its the wasted blue pill that pisses me off on the drive home. Those little pills are hella expensive.

[QUOTE=LancelotLink;4704315]Regular in elyria ghosted me, I'm done with her. I guess they think since you're a reg they can play you an think you'll still keep comin back. What really pisses me off when ghosted, its not the wasted time or gas. Its the wasted blue pill that pisses me off on the drive home. Those little pills are hella expensive.[/QUOTE]Your viagras are now generic and run about 2 bucks a piece.