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[QUOTE=Lance547;3983466]I respectfully disagree. Sure, the hard core hookers, the drug addicts, and veterans no longer care about looks but the younger providers and simi pros are more selective and actually do find certain men attractive if you happen to be their type.

I get what you're saying, prostitutes don't care about looks but if you do happen to fit the type of man the prostitute would date outside her job absolutely you can get preferred treatment and she might even get excited to see you.[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree with your disagreement. LOL If a man is that attractive, that he can tempt a prostitute away from her goal, what is he doing seeking out prostitutes? He could just walk into and mall, club or civilian outlet and pickup a charmer. That's what I use to do, before I aged and lost it. 😊.

(I get it. Even street walkers have preferences. If they've got to give it up, why not give it up to someone cute / handsome, clean, respectful and nice. Come to think about it, that my preference too, with one addition. I want her cute, clean, respectful and young. 😊

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=MyDarkSide;3982330]I agree with all but for better or worse, think these girls aren't interested in the slightest in one's looks. Polite, safe, clean, not grossly overweight, money, quickness to finish, perhaps an ideal age range, fetish, etc. But not "looks. " They don't care. It's just projecting our thoughts - or interests, into theirs.[/QUOTE]For me personally I do not care at all what they look like only that they are clean and don't smell and what their money looks like, they can be ugly as sin but if he's clean easy to be around a no hassle good date then nothing changes and if he pays good too then he is my number 1 date my first choice above a good looking date let's say and I've heard other girls talk about how their one date was so hot or whatever but same rules apply if he was a shitty date they won't see him again no matter how hot he was and if he wasn't worth the money for the amount of time then hotness counts for nothing.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;3983609]I respectfully disagree with your disagreement. LOL If a man is that attractive, that he can tempt a prostitute away from her goal, what is he doing seeking out prostitutes? He could just walk into and mall, club or civilian outlet and pickup a charmer. That's what I use to do, before I aged and lost it. 😊.

(I get it. Even street walkers have preferences. If they've got to give it up, why not give it up to someone cute / handsome, clean, respectful and nice. Come to think about it, that my preference too, with one addition. I want her cute, clean, respectful and young. 😊

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]First off, did you really lose it because here in the United States it's culturally inappropriate for an older man to be picking up young girls in the mall. Now they even throw out and ban young men for disturbing and trying to pick up women in the mall.

If you were in a country like Thailand I doubt you would have any problems at your current age. I was in Thailand about 4 years ago and seen plenty of 55+ men walking around in the malls hand and hand with young Thai girls where here in the United States or the UK those same men would probably be all alone.

Secondly, in America, there has been a huge cultural change from the 1960's to our current day and time. Back in the day of free love and pre AIDS era it was much easier to pick up the K-Mart shopping chicks and have sex just for the fun of it. In the old days women weren't as mercenary and had sex for the sake of it because that was the culture at that time.

Now?? American women don't give away sex as freely like the older generation did because they have been told by the older gals that it's selling themselves short or that they could contract an STD. Furthermore, your average young girl today no longer shops at K-Mart because thier standards have increased to where young women now shop for designer shoes and clothes and 1000 $ iPhones along with having the difficulty of trying to survive in a era of unprecedented financial challenges so young girls today as a generation are signing up to be sugar babies or escorting on the side.

Lastly, it has been told to me a few years ago that they're now telling young pro athletes to avoid groupies and seek out prostitutes because prostitutes won't try to get pregnant, claim rape later, or put all of your private business online. Essentially everything has flipped to where today in the era of #meetoo, and corrupt divorce court an American man is now better off seeking out sex workers for companionship and avoiding regular girls.

[QUOTE=Lance547;3983602]Funny. I got close to this young woman who when I first met her she was a highly desired escort but over time she told me she doesn't do it anymore. We also got a little bit more involved and she made it seem like she didn't see anyone else but me sexually and that we could possibly have a relationship in the future.

Anyway, one night she was high as a kite and I decided to look through her phone and boy what an interesting and eye opening surprise even though I already knew she wasn't being truthful with me.

Firstly even though she doesn't advertise anymore she still does escort. Her text to potential clients were all business such as price, location, and what she doesn't do. It was really baffling to me how she would tell me that she doesn't sell her body anymore because she "values her body and mind" and that "she doesn't want to just share her body with everyone anymore" then turn around and sell it anyway even when that's how I met her. It's like she moved me from one category / lane to another.

Secondly, she has numerous other males who I would refer to as friends with benefits. She basically talks to everyone the same such as, "hay baby", or "hay boo" or "you're the true love of my life" all while asking for money or a place to stay.

She's got all of us guys thinking we are individually special to her, when actually none of us are. How can we be when she basically has like 200 some numbers and 15 core guys she mines for food, money, cigs, a ride, a place to stay, etc.

Basically this woman hops from one man to the next selling s#x outright to some, others get it packaged up as a fwb / lover, and other men get none at all. Regardless, everyday or every few days she's with a different man for the same reasons (drugs, food, shelter) all while lining up the next guy right when she's sitting right next to you. Every day 5 or 6 men constantly texting her wanting to meet up and see her but none of the men know about each other and wonder why she doesn't reply for hours.

Am I upset? A little. But at the same time I realized that this is all that this woman is capable of doing in life at this point. This is how she survives, letting men pass her around like a blunt so as long as she can get her needs met out of it. This is her job / hustle, brokering little deals with multiple men to keep her afloat and the drugs flowing without having to work and get a real job.[/QUOTE]I find what you have to say here as quite interesting and valued information to those that may think otherwise. It not only validates what I previously said, but can serve as a wake up call for the many that think they have become special to that certain girl. Only to find out down the pike she took him for a ride in his own car. Keeping an open mind and clear understanding of what can, and more often than not will, happen is paramount to a mongers survival. I'm not saying every guy should have a hard on for every girl he meets. Just the pitfalls and traps we step into with every one of them are numerous. Granted there are good girls. They remain good girls till they don't get what they need and want. Keeping that in mind given the choice of meeting her needs or staying with Mr. Special, he's going to go first every time. I'll bet dollars to donuts.

Understanding a girl is saying to somebody else exactly, almost word for word, what she's telling you.

At any moment she may care for someone. Key word there is "moment". Because when the next one takes our place she now cares for him we become a lost memory. If a girl doesn't hear the ca ching then her thoughts are on those that make her hear it. You are completely right. It's about food, shelter, drugs, clothes and necessities of need. The needs rarely change. Only how she meets them do.

Your post contains valuable guidelines that all should take in to consideration. Nobody here can convince me a working girl has us or our best interest in mind. If the girl you speak of has a special client die then another special client will take his place as quick as an hour after death. Understanding that is pretty basic. Me' I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Gator145;3982181]I guess I didn't explain myself well. The actual post was not intended to tear apart anyone. Quite the opposite. That's why I didn't include the authors web site name or the date of the post. So if the post came off that way my apologies to all who didn't get it.

The actual intent was to alert others in the game that may have similar delusions. Thoughts of that nature puts anyone thinking that at great risk. Including the author.

Once we think we have found our comfort zone in the game we in reality are out of the zone. We always need to be wondering what' s the worst thing that can go wrong with any meeting.

To think simply we are safe in the lions cage because we gave them a steak is delusional. No matter how many steaks or how much respect we give it we remain the prey. That lion has us where they want us. They instantly begin planning an attack. Quite possibly the decisive attack. Maybe not right away, but it's coming. They wait for the one slip up from us.

The Rip Off section of the forum is an excellent source of information. Almost every post has one thing in common. That being they trusted someone they should have known better than to trust.

Nobody in the game is our friend, lover, caretaker. We are not special to anybody no matter how pretty we believe ourselves to be. A provider will tell us what they think we want to hear to gain our trust.

Patrons of the trade have always been considered an easy mark. The common thought is they will not make police contact. Making every encounter the perfect crime.

None of the providers I know are in the game because they want to be. They all have a need to fulfil. Drugs, rent, food, clothes, whatever. If they will hop in the sheets with a perfect stranger for a few dollars it stands to reason they will do or say most anything to gain what they want. Including but not limited to making us think we are special and cute.

Safety is the best tool we have at our disposal. It is not normal in any circle to place trust in someone doing something illegal. Everyone has an agenda. Providers and patrons alike. A splendid time should be had by all. That is with caution.

So this is the point I was driving and not by any stretch trying to tear anyone apart. Even so for his own safety the author should know better. It is through his and other experiences here that the rest of us learn the ins and outs of the game. No pun intended. Without our mistakes being on the forum then we have no comparison to success and failure. No matter, my position here will always be safety first and trust nobody. Stay focused on the reality of any situation. Me I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]The John thinks he is special and the Hoe plays up and manipulates the John's thinking! The John is not special; there are are say 15 within the Black Widows's grasp.

[QUOTE=NvrStlPhilly;3986966]The John thinks he is special and the Hoe plays up and manipulates the John's thinking! The John is not special; there are are say 15 within the Black Widows's grasp.[/QUOTE]Ha! Ha! Ha! I agree. Truer words never spoken. I couldn't have said it any better. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=NvrStlPhilly;3981980]For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.

Gator give us examples of men who get it for free! I doubt you will find any.

If the women still has it she would not be accepting funds for her services. Works both ways doesn't it. The women still thinks she has the touch also.

Regardless of what party still has it or not the relationship is mutual use at the core level.[/QUOTE]Maybe I am missing something or we are talking about two different worlds. Paying for it has absolutely nothing to do with still having "it" or not having "it". Maybe for a $20 BJ from a streetwalker but I am never one to cast judgement on anyone for who they choose to pay or why they choose to pay. I guess all of those politicians and celebrities that pay escorts all the time have just lost "it" and couldn't go out and pick up a piece if they wanted to. When I am traveling for business I guess I could go to the hotel bar and play the game. But I would rather take 5 minutes to pick up the phone, place my order, and be done with it. As for women that accept funds for their services not having "it". This one had it when I saw her a couple of weeks ago. [URL]https://www.cupidsescorts.ca/escorts/isys/[/URL] . Can't imagine guys telling her no for free. Point is there are many reasons as to shy we all do what we do and still having "it" or not having "it" has very little to do with it.

I do very much agree with your last point though.

[QUOTE=BlueHen;3995788]I reached out to Savannah yesterday morning and she sent me a couple of photos of what I requested and donation requests the same that were stated in email. One of the photos she sent me there was Paula I believe and some guy there also in the photo. Not sure if these 2 have a handler or not but seeing a guy in the photo kinda bugs me a little. Anyway after I received the photos I asked her a few questions and never got another response the rest of the day. Savannah is hot and I still want to see her. I'll try again today to reach her. Stay safe my friends.[/QUOTE]I have texted her 3 times with no response. Don't care how hot she is. Philly sucks for quality providers. Thank god for my job which sends me to places that make down here look like chopped liver. Good luck if you see her, hope all goes well and you have a great time.

[QUOTE=Kbear6577;3997732]I have texted her 3 times with no response. Don't care how hot she is. Philly sucks for quality providers. Thank god for my job which sends me to places that make down here look like chopped liver. Good luck if you see her, hope all goes well and you have a great time.[/QUOTE]Philly is horrific along with other states on the east coast. I use to live in California for a number of years and I took living in California for granted. In California you had all racial groups to choose from as well as exotic mixed looking women. I would say the hottest women I seen in California were the sexy young Latinas and Asian women. I never picked up any SW or gals online in those days but I look at the ads online in California just for kicks and I know I'm missing out compared to what I have now.

Reminds me I had a family reunion about 2 years ago in New Jersey and was talking to a cousin of mine who was living in Florida about women and we both came to the conclusion that the quality of women on the east coast, particularly the Mid-Atlantic Region has plummeted. He was showing me pics of the girls he was with in Florida and you couldn't find a comparable woman walking down the street in New Jersey where we were at. There are hot girls in New Jersey but they're clustered in certain areas.

In Philadelphia in particular the demographics consist of predominantly African and Caucasian. I remember coming back to philly and being in culture shock because I didn't see any mixed or Asian or Hispanic female representation.

Anyway the black girls in philly these days most of them are overweight, too many are ghetto, and they live in bad neighborhoods so I don't seem them. I had one really hot black provider who was beauty pageant material in philly but she was in a really bad part of town and after she got shot during a robbery / rape attempt I stopped going to see her. It was just too depressing.

What's left in Philadelphia is the huge population of Caucasian women who range from average looking to really hot but the problem is that most of the white women who provide are hard core drug addicts which makes them unpredictable and unreliable for starters. And secondly the drug use catches up to them because it ruins their looks, I know of some really pretty white girls who now have hardly any teeth, are rail thin / fat and flabby, and look like zombies. And those are the women who are still alive, I know of a few white girls who are now deceased from drug overdose. This is one of them: [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/[/URL]#philadelphia / info /2156646698/20566398.

In philly you have to search diligently and get them when they are young and new to the scene and just enjoy the short time you have with them because either they will soon disappear (leave the lifestyle) for good or the drug addiction will take over and ruin them.

[QUOTE=Gator145;3982181]I guess I didn't explain myself well. The actual post was not intended to tear apart anyone. Quite the opposite. That's why I didn't include the authors web site name or the date of the post. So if the post came off that way my apologies to all who didn't get it.

The actual intent was to alert others in the game that may have similar delusions. Thoughts of that nature puts anyone thinking that at great risk. Including the author.

Once we think we have found our comfort zone in the game we in reality are out of the zone. We always need to be wondering what' s the worst thing that can go wrong with any meeting.

To think simply we are safe in the lions cage because we gave them a steak is delusional. No matter how many steaks or how much respect we give it we remain the prey. That lion has us where they want us. They instantly begin planning an attack. Quite possibly the decisive attack. Maybe not right away, but it's coming. They wait for the one slip up from us.

The Rip Off section of the forum is an excellent source of information. Almost every post has one thing in common. That being they trusted someone they should have known better than to trust.

Nobody in the game is our friend, lover, caretaker. We are not special to anybody no matter how pretty we believe ourselves to be. A provider will tell us what they think we want to hear to gain our trust.

Patrons of the trade have always been considered an easy mark. The common thought is they will not make police contact. Making every encounter the perfect crime..[/QUOTE]I am catching up on my posts!

Gator comments are an Absolute Rule!

To append the statements:

Can't make a WG a housewife. It is always in their blood to not work (real job / career) and fleece a man for all their needs. This includes going to 7 11 , getting gas, or even a grocery store. The hoe constantly flirts with premeditation everywhere they go. Part of the act is wearing revealing clothing. Every man is a potential customer. Hoes' are always on the clock to say.

With a hoe it is a cat and mouse game; the hoe has the power and the man's desire to have fun is like kryptonite to Superman.

Few if any hoes are "pretty". Yes, they can be cute but, most will be turned down for a KMART advertising shoot. Heck, all women are pretty at say 22 years old. They are still puppies. I rarely see an ugly puppy. The whole litter is cute.

WG's bring down the biggest and best of men.

Olivia aka "Kayla' was the girl found shot to death in the Kensington abando yesturday. She was known to frequent the area and also did outcalls / online. I never dated her but I went to high school with her and was definitely aware of her dope addiction. They found her with her head blown off and naked from the waist down. There are some vile, sick fuckers out there man. Stay safe yall.

[QUOTE=Suckuhh;4326069]Olivia aka "Kayla' was the girl found shot to death in the Kensington abando yesturday. She was known to frequent the area and also did outcalls / online. I never dated her but I went to high school with her and was definitely aware of her dope addiction. They found her with her head blown off and naked from the waist down. There are some vile, sick fuckers out there man. Stay safe yall.[/QUOTE]Much agreed about the very sick POS out there. I'm curious given the location of the incident if it was somebody she knows. Of course, as with all addicted working girls, the Police "investigation" will be very limited if it takes place at all. With the volume of police activity in and around that particular block, it's difficult to understand how something like this could happen in that proximity without their first-hand knowledge. For those that may not have known Olivia follow this link. [URL]https://escortalligator.com.philadelphia.listcrawler.com/post/34112909/Kayla.[/URL] Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Gator145;4326533]Much agreed about the very sick POS out there. I'm curious given the location of the incident if it was somebody she knows. Of course, as with all addicted working girls, the Police "investigation" will be very limited if it takes place at all. With the volume of police activity in and around that particular block, it's difficult to understand how something like this could happen in that proximity without their first-hand knowledge. For those that may not have known Olivia follow this link. [URL]https://escortalligator.com.philadelphia.listcrawler.com/post/34112909/Kayla.[/URL] Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Wow, she was cute. RIP.

[QUOTE=Gator145;4326533]Much agreed about the very sick POS out there. I'm curious given the location of the incident if it was somebody she knows. Of course, as with all addicted working girls, the Police "investigation" will be very limited if it takes place at all. With the volume of police activity in and around that particular block, it's difficult to understand how something like this could happen in that proximity without their first-hand knowledge. For those that may not have known Olivia follow this link. [URL]https://escortalligator.com.philadelphia.listcrawler.com/post/34112909/Kayla.[/URL] Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]I'm at a loss for words. I seen her ad numerous times over the past 2-3 years. Never took the plunge due to the fact that she was strictly outcall.

A similar incident happened about 2 years ago with an escort who worked out of the Huntington Park area off Broad street. She worked out of her home. As she told the story to me, she was expecting one John but as soon as she opened the door 2 other men rushed in so 3 males all total where in her home demanding cash and then tried to rape her. She fought back and one man shot her in the face and they all ran out. She survived but only can see out of one eye now and will forever have problems with her eyes.

American sex workers are routinely robbed, raped, and killed and this is proof why accoring to government research the average street sex worker's career only spans 5 years.

One older escort I knew who has since long disappeared told me over her working career she was raped 4 times. Never reported anything. It's absolutely shameful that sex work could at least be decriminalized so sex workers can report the violent Johns and get them off the streets.

I'm so disgusted with male violence towards women. No woman (drug addict or not) should ever be shot in the face and left for dead in an abandoned building. Rest in peace Olivia. You will always be remembered.

[QUOTE=Lance547;4327652]I'm at a loss for words. I seen her ad numerous times over the past 2-3 years. Never took the plunge due to the fact that she was strictly outcall.

A similar incident happened about 2 years ago with an escort who worked out of the Huntington Park area off Broad street. She worked out of her home. As she told the story to me, she was expecting one John but as soon as she opened the door 2 other men rushed in so 3 males all total where in her home demanding cash and then tried to rape her. She fought back and one man shot her in the face and they all ran out. She survived but only can see out of one eye now and will forever have problems with her eyes.

American sex workers are routinely robbed, raped, and killed and this is proof why accoring to government research the average street sex worker's career only spans 5 years.

One older escort I knew who has since long disappeared told me over her working career she was raped 4 times. Never reported anything. It's absolutely shameful that sex work could at least be decriminalized so sex workers can report the violent Johns and get them off the streets.

I'm so disgusted with male violence towards women. No woman (drug addict or not) should ever be shot in the face and left for dead in an abandoned building. Rest in peace Olivia. You will always be remembered.[/QUOTE]I agree with all of your points regarding decriminalization however lets remove the misandry. An equal number if not more men are robbed and injured in badger games, set up to be robbed by a pimp or out and out killed as women. I read these forums every day and every single day there are guys that have had guns stuck in their faces.

The issue is criminalizing a commercial transaction for service. When you criminalize something you introduce criminal elements. It doesn't matter if it's booze, weed, harder drugs, or sex.

A2.