"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=DogBert77;4235011]There are some things that the less intelligent SB's do that drive me up the wall. I expect other guys have their own list, but here are a couple of mine:

1. I message my burner phone number to SB on SA site. Get text that says: "Hi, it's Samantha" when her user name didn't have Samantha in it or anything to do with Samantha. Even worse, they text me and just say "Hi" and don't say anything about who they are. Sometimes long after I messaged them. These girls are always telling us about how many messages they get. Do they think we are only messaging one girl at a time, say one a week?[/QUOTE]I left my phone number with four or five women who hadn't bothered to open my previous messages when my account was expiring. Two months later I get a text from one saying "I just saw your message and are you still interested in meetng?" No name and I didn't have her number first so I have no clue who it is. So asked who was this. She said Sara. Ok, now I've contacted more than a few SBs named Sara both fake and real names. So I am still lost. We texted about 10 minutes and I am hoping she would say something that would jog my memory. Finally she said lets meet at Panera. Fortunately I found the right one in my sent folder and gleaned enough info to be up to speed with her when we did meet a few hours later that day. Moral is archive your messages in case they ever show up again.

[QUOTE=JustLonely;4236670]She dumped her profile and is now on as FabulousKiki. Probably with same story about power being cut off.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/42aec4a3-418c-4d46-87a8-47dfa7aca970[/URL]

[QUOTE=DogBert77;4236461]This is a really interesting perspective Pete, thanks. I have met plenty of young girls who are totally into coffee, so its not completely a generational thing. Obviously not all of them are and I can see the breath thing being a hurdle for those who aren't. I am going to try a bit harder with the non-coffee crowd, at least if they are good-looking enough, and stop just assuming that they are being bitchy or stupid. Maybe my closure rate will go up a couple percent.[/QUOTE]I'm sure it's nothing to change your routine over; I don't think its generational either. Millennial were and maybe still are the biggest coffee generation, though the typical millennial girl now is mid-late 20's. I'm mostly hearing about the coffee aversion from the 18-24 crowd. In the last couple of years there were a number of highly publicized (dramatized) coffee health scares. Every now and then I'm sure a high school senior studying current events decides to make "coffee is evil" the theme of her magnum-opus senior project and it has a formative effect on her future (LOL). The only real trend I see is that it's more polarized than it used to be, same as smoking. There was a time where smoker vs non-smoker was merely a preference, but the stigma tightened its grip over time and there are girls that smoke and also girls who won't go near people who smoke, both coexisting in the same age demographic.

OK, OK, I am not about to die, as far as I know, but I am about to kill off my avatar, I mean my profile, on SA. I have been on SA for eight months and have messaged and texted with lots of girls and feel I can refine my approach. Rather than just editing my profile, I intend to let it go inactive when the next renewal comes up, then register a new profile with some differences. Among other things, I plan to put some type of photo in my profile because I think a lot of girls wouldn't consider me without any photos up. This way I will get another crack at some of the hotties who have blocked me or ignored me under my present profile.

I expect I am not the first monger to do this. I am wondering if you guys have any tips or things you wish you had done differently when creating a new profile. I intend to make a list of some of the "ones that got away" so I can look for them under my new profile. Anything else I should be doing?

[QUOTE=DogBert77;4238693]OK, OK, I am not about to die, as far as I know, but I am about to kill off my avatar, I mean my profile, on SA. I have been on SA for eight months and have messaged and texted with lots of girls and feel I can refine my approach. Rather than just editing my profile, I intend to let it go inactive when the next renewal comes up, then register a new profile with some differences. Among other things, I plan to put some type of photo in my profile because I think a lot of girls wouldn't consider me without any photos up. This way I will get another crack at some of the hotties who have blocked me or ignored me under my present profile.

I expect I am not the first monger to do this. I am wondering if you guys have any tips or things you wish you had done differently when creating a new profile. I intend to make a list of some of the "ones that got away" so I can look for them under my new profile. Anything else I should be doing?[/QUOTE]Many of these girls network with each other. They use your name and / or number to chat about you.

If you plan to start a new profile, make sure you use a different name when you contact them, and a new burner #. Otherwise, they can pick up on it being you with a new profile.

Also, completely delete the old profile from SA. Don't just disable it.

Look around on Google Images for a pic of someone who looks like you. Use that. Blur it a little or block out the eyes so it can't be reverse image searched on Google, and also so the girls can't be sure it's not you when you meet them.

There's no way in hell I would ever post a pic of myself on that site.

If you've met a lot of the local girls, be prepared to be sitting across from one of them and having that OH FUCK moment when you realize you met her in the past. That happened to me when I made a new profile. I had a meet and greet with a girl I met two years earlier.

I have been a member off and on for years, always paying full price except for once when they offered a Halloween discount if I remember correctly. I have read on occasion about a weekly rate offered by SA. I have never seen this on the site or on the app. When I downloaded the app last week, the current monthly rate of $89 was the only option other than the 3 month option. So is there a weekly rate option and if so, where do I find it? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4221164]If she really is that hot, I would agree that she would be hard to pass on if she resurfaces on her own. If you back off, the odds she returms on her own go way up.

If she does resurface, the smart thing to do would be to pass, but we all know when it comes to pussy we don't always do the smart thing! LOL. Honestly, if she came back on her own I would probably make another run at her, but with extreme caution.

Best of luck![/QUOTE]So just a quick update on the sugar plum. I washed my hands with her as many advised me to and let her be / gave her her space. No food, no baked cakes, cookies you name it. No money advanced nada. She resurfaced, has a new number and is inviting me to the same show that ended with her spending the night at my place roughly 2 months ago.

[QUOTE=LoriTruck;4239152]So just a quick update on the sugar plum. I washed my hands with her as many advised me to and let her be / gave her her space. No food, no baked cakes, cookies you name it. No money advanced nada. She resurfaced, has a new number and is inviting me to the same show that ended with her spending the night at my place roughly 2 months ago.[/QUOTE]Always have other irons in the fire, it helps you make good decisions. Women have this intuition where they can literally FEEL the number of other options you have, and it will impact your outcome. If they act up, they cannot be immediately rewarded for resurfacing. Go in with the attitude "you wasted my time before, so why should I talk to you now". But don't say that directly, convey it while being smoother with tactics words. Good things will occur every time.

Read everything you can, experiment, and refine your approach. Use and change your Google Voice or other burner number. Never use the same profile pic twice. And move the conversation off the site as soon as possible. All good rules to live by.

[QUOTE=DogBert77;4238693]OK, OK, I am not about to die, as far as I know, but I am about to kill off my avatar, I mean my profile, on SA. I have been on SA for eight months and have messaged and texted with lots of girls and feel I can refine my approach. Rather than just editing my profile, I intend to let it go inactive when the next renewal comes up, then register a new profile with some differences. Among other things, I plan to put some type of photo in my profile because I think a lot of girls wouldn't consider me without any photos up. This way I will get another crack at some of the hotties who have blocked me or ignored me under my present profile.

I expect I am not the first monger to do this. I am wondering if you guys have any tips or things you wish you had done differently when creating a new profile. I intend to make a list of some of the "ones that got away" so I can look for them under my new profile. Anything else I should be doing?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoriTruck;4239152]So just a quick update on the sugar plum. I washed my hands with her as many advised me to and let her be / gave her her space. No food, no baked cakes, cookies you name it. No money advanced nada. She resurfaced, has a new number and is inviting me to the same show that ended with her spending the night at my place roughly 2 months ago.[/QUOTE]#40.

SandPiper540.

Senior Member.

Seeking Arrangements.

Just wanted to let everyone know that seeking Arrangements does have a 24.99 7-Day trial. I have had a lot of success on seeking Arrangements in the past. But the girls do ask for a lot more than Backpage and other similar sites. One of the negative things I've noticed about seeking Arrangements is that there are a lot of fake profiles, but some of these girls will text you back and forth endlessly. They promise to make a date but never do. However they will keep in touch with you through text. I almost want to believe that these are paid employees of seeking Arrangements. People that are paid to keep the customers (the guys) entertained. If you're not into sharing a real girl, please share the fakes so we can avoid.

[QUOTE=Dangerb;4239126]I have been a member off and on for years, always paying full price except for once when they offered a Halloween discount if I remember correctly. I have read on occasion about a weekly rate offered by SA. I have never seen this on the site or on the app. When I downloaded the app last week, the current monthly rate of $89 was the only option other than the 3 month option. So is there a weekly rate option and if so, where do I find it? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The monger Sandpiper540 mentions a 1 week membership to SA.

[QUOTE=BagIt;4239283]The monger Sandpiper540 mentions a 1 week membership to SA.[/QUOTE]A while back before SA was removed from the iTunes store, I was able to buy an iTunes card, sign up with a fake iTunes account and bought a 1 week membership for $27. If I remember right, I was able to log in with the membership to my regular SA account using the trial membership. ITunes was just the conduit to get the trial. Unfortunately, this cannot be done as the app is gone. Not sure if the same thing would work with a googleplay account.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4234202] I always do M&G's but similar philosophy on dinner for several reasons. There's the expense, hate spending 100 on dinner and over an hour with them when I often realize as soon as I sit down I'm not interested, and it's true some of them are torture to talk to so you have to make small talk longer. Many I've met are fun to talk to and interesting, especially when I'm in pursuit, but you never know for sure until you get there. Drinks, coffee, maybe an appetizer at a casual cafe, that's the way to do this. Keep the commitment of both time and money minimal upfront, you can always ramp it up.[/QUOTE]Dinner? These girls don't want to sit through dinner unless you're going to pay them to eat. They're either on that site because they need drug money, or they're on the site because they're addicted to FAST MONEY. Give them the choice between dinner and sex or going straight to the FC and they will pick going straight to the FC every time.

Don't know if this profile has been taken down or I have been blocked.

This is a time waster and a flake.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/54538dee-788c-4d84-90e7-d2154b9682a8[/URL]

Could be a SA hired and maintained profile to jerk us off.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4241282]Don't know if this profile has been taken down or I have been blocked.

This is a time waster and a flake.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/54538dee-788c-4d84-90e7-d2154b9682a8[/URL]

Could be a SA hired and maintained profile to jerk us off.[/QUOTE]Profile still up for me, so I guess you've been blocked.