"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

I see no wrong in either approach. One approach gives you a potential 50% off discount and saves you money. One approach saves you from having to play into the delusion that some of them like to portray that they are on seeking looking for a "genuine" connection, and the money isn't important. Remember, a real potential girlfriend does not make you pay to hang out with her, and any woman who exchanges sex / intimacy / companionship for cash is an escort / sex worker. Some guys are okay with blurring those lines to make them feel better about their chosen source of income and get the discount, and some guys want a line drawn in the sand, real girlfriends get treated like girlfriends, and escorts get treated like escorts.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;7428970]Just remember, the more effort you put into the flirting / dating aspect of it, the better your rates will be.

If you talk to these girls like escorts, going straight to the point, and don't bother to get to know them or talk to them, you'll need to pay 400-500 PPM. And for some guys that's fine, all they're really looking for is a low volume escort who does bare, and that's easy to find if you're willing to pay the "get right to the point" tax. And some guys it's worth it to NOT put in the flirt / banter / small talk work.

But if you treat these girls like potential girlfriends, have fun while texting with them, put a little effort in to make them laugh, ask them about themselves, etc, you can easily get most of the girls on here for between 200-300 (even less if they are chubby or not traditionally attractive). Not every girl, but enough of them that you can skip over the GPS and move on to the girls who will.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Airmantroy;7432401]You are correct, she part of a group of rinsers, you pay them to look pretty or buy them stupid shit. I've met 2 of her "friends" that were sisters. One is still active. The other landed a whale apparently. I'd say don't prepay / deposit / nails or whatever. You can expect about 800 ppm if she holds true to the group. Time wasters, albeit they are very hot.[/QUOTE]So we did a video call. She is hot. Just wanted money in advance but ready to meet but wanted.

To make sure I can provide apparently. She did say she gets money just to meet and greet.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that these two are on seeking. If it has to do with sex work, these two are involved. Onlyfans, Snapchat premium, escorting, looking for whales at night clubs and popular vacation destinations, these 2 do it all.

I saw both for a threesome last summer from their LC ad, and it was for the most part underwhelming. The service was good. They have a fairly open menu and for the right price they'll do anything. They host at an upscale Buckhead apartment, but it's dirty ass hell with clothes and trash everywhere and I opted for a 1 hour 2 girl incall for 375 (BBFS was available with one, while the other was open to Bbj but cfs. I did have to negotiate them down from 600 for the date). Like I said service was good titties in my face while her friend sucked me off. Hitting one from behind while she ate her friend out. They performed well.

Their biggest drawback is their combined delusion. On their LC ads, they use fake pictures. So I was under the impression I was on the way to woman pictured in the orange bikini who had a friend. When I arrived, I was throughly disappointed and brought up the discrepancy of what was advertised vs. What is in front of me to which they replied, "it shouldn't matter because we both look better than the girl in the picture" and they were dead serious in their belief that they did LOL.

Because of their delusion, they normally want 250 ppm for standard service (one shot on goal and everything covered). Simp culture is most likely to blame, if you look at their pics on seeking, they have designer bags and jewelry, expensive vacation pics, and are in nice cars. They were most likely getting splurged on by wannabe rappers and drug dealers during the pandemic with unemployment funds.

All in all, if you go after these two, don't fall for the trap, they are high volume pros They post daily on LC (their ad is linked below), and you should negotiate, they haven't found a whale in a while to fund the delusion that they're 10's, and they are desperate to keep that Buckhead apartment and lifestyle.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/195927166[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f556bf1b-4c0e-4ad1-9d98-ab8bd324611d[/URL]

[QUOTE=Loop285;7432584]I guess I shouldn't be surprised that these two are on seeking. If it has to do with sex work, these two are involved. Onlyfans, Snapchat premium, escorting, looking for whales at night clubs and popular vacation destinations, these 2 do it all.

I saw both for a threesome last summer from their LC ad, and it was for the most part underwhelming. The service was good. They have a fairly open menu and for the right price they'll do anything. They host at an upscale Buckhead apartment, but it's dirty ass hell with clothes and trash everywhere and I opted for a 1 hour 2 girl incall for 375 (BBFS was available with one, while the other was open to Bbj but cfs. I did have to negotiate them down from 600 for the date). Like I said service was good titties in my face while her friend sucked me off. Hitting one from behind while she ate her friend out. They performed well.

Their biggest drawback is their combined delusion. On their LC ads, they use fake pictures. So I was under the impression I was on the way to woman pictured in the orange bikini who had a friend. When I arrived, I was throughly disappointed and brought up the discrepancy of what was advertised vs. What is in front of me to which they replied, "it shouldn't matter because we both look better than the girl in the picture" and they were dead serious in their belief that they did LOL.

Because of their delusion, they normally want 250 ppm for standard service (one shot on goal and everything covered). Simp culture is most likely to blame, if you look at their pics on seeking, they have designer bags and jewelry, expensive vacation pics, and are in nice cars. They were most likely getting splurged on by wannabe rappers and drug dealers during the pandemic with unemployment funds.

All in all, if you go after these two, don't fall for the trap, they are high volume pros They post daily on LC (their ad is linked below), and you should negotiate, they haven't found a whale in a while to fund the delusion that they're 10's, and they are desperate to keep that Buckhead apartment and lifestyle.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/atlanta/195927166[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f556bf1b-4c0e-4ad1-9d98-ab8bd324611d[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for your service to this forum.

So I met a lady who I consider in my opinion to be a unicorn. One of those once in a lifetime individuals who just has it all. Physically, she has everything where it needs to be. Perfect height, weight, has a pretty smile, nice full lips, nice chest and a speed bump that sticks out just right. We have gone on a few lunch dates and our conversations flow effortlessly and things seemed to be going well until I got hit with the "Can you please help me with my portion of the rent?" via text. I have yet to respond but it's probably in the neighborhood of 700-800. I have easily spent that in one day on lunch, drinks, hotel, and fun afterwards with other ladies in the past so that amount can go quickly.

My end goal is to experience her at least once but how can I turn her request in my favor to where I also get what I want? The last thing I want is for her to think she's getting free help without putting in a little work for it.

[QUOTE=LoriTruck;7433533]So I met a lady who I consider in my opinion to be a unicorn. One of those once in a lifetime individuals who just has it all. Physically, she has everything where it needs to be. Perfect height, weight, has a pretty smile, nice full lips, nice chest and a speed bump that sticks out just right. We have gone on a few lunch dates and our conversations flow effortlessly and things seemed to be going well until I got hit with the "Can you please help me with my portion of the rent?" via text. I have yet to respond but it's probably in the neighborhood of 700-800. I have easily spent that in one day on lunch, drinks, hotel, and fun afterwards with other ladies in the past so that amount can go quickly.

My end goal is to experience her at least once but how can I turn her request in my favor to where I also get what I want? The last thing I want is for her to think she's getting free help without putting in a little work for it.[/QUOTE]Just tell her, "if you are ready to begin an arrangement, and move to the next level, I'd love to have you come to my place (or hotel, however you roll) and get things started. ".

I know its not what you want to hear, but don't be a sucker. She might be slow playing you. Let her know you do cash in person, not digital. Either way, have fun.

[QUOTE=SoonerFan72;7433635]Just tell her, "if you are ready to begin an arrangement, and move to the next level, I'd love to have you come to my place (or hotel, however you roll) and get things started. ".

I know its not what you want to hear, but don't be a sucker. She might be slow playing you. Let her know you do cash in person, not digital. Either way, have fun.[/QUOTE]Great response!

Do you have any suggestions on how to introduce FOMO (fear of missing out) to the target? What I mean is, I've had success in the past by alluding that there are other girls they're in competition with. This doesn't work consistently, and backfires occasionally (when it shatters whatever illusion they have). I'd be curious to get the boards take on the best ways to introduce the idea of competition. When calibrated right, I think it's an effective tool.

At LoriTruck, I would be willing to bet there's a good chance it will be "that time of the month" when it's time for fun, but she won't reveal that until the last second. I would decide now (while the big head is in control) what your response will be.

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[QUOTE=PlayerOne1;7431994][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8c283f7d-a21a-4fe0-b98e-003118ba913c[/URL]

I have her socials: insta. She is part of a young group of girls with many of them on / off seeking.

I want to see her but she is so hard to pin down and wants money in advance.[/QUOTE]As soon as "money in advance" or "deposit" or any of that nonsense is mentioned, just block and move on. These aren't high priced escorts, if they want to be treated like high priced escorts they can go make a Tryst ad. If they ask for an advance or desposit they are either 1) scamming (almost guaranteed) or 2) an escort and not a SB, since deposits is really an escort thing. You can try to shoot that shit down by saying "That makes things feel too transactional, we need to wait until after the date" and if they're a real SB they'll usually be fine with it. If they insist on the deposit, just take my original advice: block and move on.

[QUOTE=ChristianTroy;7433664]Great response!

Do you have any suggestions on how to introduce FOMO (fear of missing out) to the target? What I mean is, I've had success in the past by alluding that there are other girls they're in competition with. This doesn't work consistently, and backfires occasionally (when it shatters whatever illusion they have). I'd be curious to get the boards take on the best ways to introduce the idea of competition. When calibrated right, I think it's an effective tool.

At LoriTruck, I would be willing to bet there's a good chance it will be "that time of the month" when it's time for fun, but she won't reveal that until the last second. I would decide now (while the big head is in control) what your response will be.[/QUOTE]I can't say I've ever used that tactic. Either they are down to clown, or they arent. A lot of these chics make the mistake of treating us like Tinder dates, like they have the upper hand. I just move on from these chics, no matter now hot they may be. I've found if they have that kind of mentality, they probably arent going to put in much effort in the sack. Like they are doing you a favor. I look for the ones that are friendly and motivated.

[QUOTE=SoonerFan72;7433635]Just tell her, "if you are ready to begin an arrangement, and move to the next level, I'd love to have you come to my place (or hotel, however you roll) and get things started. ".

I know its not what you want to hear, but don't be a sucker. She might be slow playing you. Let her know you do cash in person, not digital. Either way, have fun.[/QUOTE]This is good advice. It's what I need to hear. We all need that reminder every now and then because it's easy to get complacent.

Pic seller, no interest in meeting.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/627d75c8-da2c-4894-8b2f-90f6b91d16d3[/URL]

Nice lady, would probably be fun. Gives a "cut to the chase" semi pro vibe though, and wants $800 PPM.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/690b9b2e-6aa7-401b-af45-d2de8ab4765c[/URL]

[QUOTE=LoriTruck;7433878]This is good advice. It's what I need to hear. We all need that reminder every now and then because it's easy to get complacent.[/QUOTE]Share with us on the outcome! I agree I easily spent $1 k or more on girls that I wanted badly.

But in your case she has to put out as well.

Good luck! Will be waiting for a report out from you.

[QUOTE=ChristianTroy;7433664]Great response!

Do you have any suggestions on how to introduce FOMO (fear of missing out) to the target? What I mean is, I've had success in the past by alluding that there are other girls they're in competition with. This doesn't work consistently, and backfires occasionally (when it shatters whatever illusion they have). I'd be curious to get the boards take on the best ways to introduce the idea of competition. When calibrated right, I think it's an effective tool.[/QUOTE]I thought of doing that before, but then I just bite my tongue. I think it would backfire much more than it could possibly work. It would just piss them off. The closest I get to that is mention to a woman 40+ that the girls in their 20's are in highest demand and can command the highest prices. But I try to say it in a casual, offhanded way, not like I'm trying to make any point.