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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1848424]I never bargain, but I believe every girl is entitled to whatever she wants, just not necessarily from me.[/QUOTE]That attitude works no matter what aspect of this hobby one pursues, as well as outside of it. My greatest experience is with strippers, where it works *very* well.
[QUOTE=Zomby;1848529]That attitude works no matter what aspect of this hobby one pursues, as well as outside of it. My greatest experience is with strippers, where it works *very* well.[/QUOTE]I date a stripper now. But she became one after I met her. My past experiences with them have been less than gratifying. They laugh at my offers.
So later today I hit up a stripper on sd4me. She replied back that I would never meet anyone for $ and that I was basically an idiot. I replied back to her professionally that I had 3 FT girls at $ but I was always on the lookout for another. I knew this was going to lead to drama. So I deleted her first message back to me without reading it. This lead to 5 more messages. None of which I read. Then I blocked her.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1848836]So later today I hit up a stripper on sd4me. She replied back that I would never meet anyone for $ and that I was basically an idiot. I replied back to her professionally that I had 3 FT girls at $ but I was always on the lookout for another. I knew this was going to lead to drama. So I deleted her first message back to me without reading it. This lead to 5 more messages. None of which I read. Then I blocked her.[/QUOTE]I had a POT recently that contacted me and wanted to get together. She seemed to have a personality but not too great looking, about a 7, 6.7 and a little doughy, she was quite dirty from the beginning in her chatting. I usually am not until later and I get to know them.
So we agreed to meet and the she tells me that she has had a SD before and I asked her what she liked about it. She starts talking money and I know this is not good. That is now three strikes and I am still considering meeting. She then asks me to go shopping before we meet and that she can host after we go shopping.
Getting worse. I tell her no. I do not do it that way. Always polite. She says if I have had other SBs and I only paid them 200 then they must be wh. S or sluts and she is afraid to associate with me.
Against my own better judgement I tell her about how high end these girls were and had real careers and education. Never once had any health issue with any of them. So she shifts to another attack on me saying I must be taking advantage of them. I disengage and block her.
Funny how the GPS girls always go into attack mode if you don't offer what they are asking. That is what is suspect will happen with King's girl but good luck anyway.
I have fucked a few StrippersI and they have always been the most expensive, and not always the best.
Revvo
Guys, in Virginia
Please stay away from profile #1655973. Her real name is Hannah but she will lie, cheat and will do everything to trap you (money, gifts).
[url]http://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/detail.php?id=1655973[/url]
Richmond, C-Ville, and surrounding folks. PM me if you are planning to meet. I will give you details.
But. Don't even go to her.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1848559]I date a stripper now. But she became one after I met her. My past experiences with them have been less than gratifying. They laugh at my offers.[/QUOTE]My one and only SB was a stripper when we started. After a little over four years, she's gone now, and I don't certainly don't expect lightning to strike twice, but there is an undeniable appeal, for me, with strippers. Before my SB, I would have said that I just love the hunt, and there's certainly an aspect of that still to it even now, after I've started frequenting clubs again. It's not quite the same at the moment, though, and I don't know if it ever will be.
Part of the problem is that I, probably very foolishly, developed a very real, and moderately deep, affection for her. In my defense, it was not entirely one-way, but I made it clear even when I told her how I felt that I wasn't planning on making any changes to my marriage, and she wanted the whole family thing with her boyfriend, now husband. I certainly don't blame her for pursuing [I]that [/I]dream.
We parted on good terms, which almost makes it worse, if that's doesn't sound idiotic. If there'd been a falling out, it would be easy to get over "that beotch," but this way, every girl I see gets compared to her, and the comparison is not always favorable.
[QUOTE=KingGreg; 1848149]Need help. I met a nice SB that I like. But she is bargaining for school stuff, etc gifts and allowance. I agreed on allowance, then she started can you increase. I am poor bargainer myself. I am now debating what to do with SB.
On hand, a beautiful SB 9/9/9, 20 year old! But she looks like high maintenance, demanding, SB. She asked for etc things after our first meet and I bought some school things. But now. She want me to up the allowance which is already high compared to local market.
In double mind! I personally don't want bargainers. I want a long term with this SB but will shall see.
Like seniors have said, I need to come up with budget. And stick with it.[/QUOTE]You have already gotten some good advice, but I can relate to your situation. I try to let the sb know in the nicest way possible that I actually enjoy being generous, but much much more so when it is a spontaneous gesture on my part. The negotiations can be a turn off, but I have also found things can move along very well once that awkward hurdle has been passed.
Things moved along nicely this week in the bowl. I have a couple of ongoing SB's that are meeting current production needs, and the marketing department has implemented a new program designed to better identify prospects who are well qualified and ready to say yes to a competitive bid. Finance is implementing stricter supplier cost controls to insure long term viability, and operations successfully conducted three campaigns since the last report.
OLD BUSINESS.
SB1 had been somewhat unavailable at last report. I had a talk with her about my expectations and left it up to her as to whether or not we would continue. The change in her availability and her communication since has been remarkable. She came over to the house and we had a great make-up session. It may be too early to tell but as long as she continues this trend she will stay around because I really do enjoy her company.
SB3, my booty call girl texted me out of the blue to see if I wanted to hook up with one of her friends who wants to be a SB. What a country! I'll report on her in the prospects section, but as a reward I had SB3 out for an afternoon by the pool. We had fun, drank wine, and I managed a reload quicker than I normally do! It was a good day.
SB4 was POT2 in my last report. She wanted a bi-weekly allowance, I said no, and she came back a couple of days later and agreed to the $.25 per visit I had originally offered. We met up and I brought her back to close the deal. It was excellent, she was very enthusiastic, so in a moment of weakness at the end I offered to compromise and give her $$.5 per week, hoping I might squeeze three visits in. She promptly disappeared for a couple of days before texting that she was sick. This may turn into a loss for me, if so it will be a lesson learned. If I do see her again it will be back to a per-visit arrangement. This was the only negative this week.
Fly in FWB-I am headed to the east coast this weekend to see my fly in girl. She is not really a SB, as there is no sugar involved, only my expenses, but I met her on a SB site, so I have to give credit where it's due.
NEW BUSINESS.
My first new prospect is the referral from SB3. She is a 21 year old Latina. 7/7/8, who has never done this before. They were having girl talk when SB3 spilled on signing up for SA and what she had done since. Her friend said 'I want a Sugar Daddy! ' and SB3, hooked me up. We are scheduled to meet next week after I get back from the east coast.
My new marketing plan implements some of the recommendations that Hollywood Guy posted recently. I used to send a very short intro letter, try to move to the M&G, and then do most of the qualification and have the sugar conversation. A couple of days ago I wrote a longer letter that has some very specific qualification items in it, mentions the fact that I have another SB whom I intend to continue seeing, and puts the $ per visit amount on the table. I sent it out to ten quality prospects. After a little more than 24 hours, nine out of ten have read the email, four have viewed my profile, and three have responded. Two of three have expressed interest in meeting, while one said that the arrangement sounded exactly like what she was looking for, but her needs were much more than $. I am working on getting the first two to a M&G this week before I go out of town, and I politely responded to number 3 wishing her well in her search. The two prospects are both Latina, one 26 years old 8/10/8, the other 24 and 8/8/8.
I know this is not a statistically significant sample size, but I find it very encouraging. I may still hear from one of the others or number 3 may come back around, but even if I don't, a 20% positive response with a lot of the awkward stuff out of the way is excellent!
The accounting department reports that if all of these prospects were to come on board, we'll be well over budget for the remainder of the fiscal year, so caution is advised. Sales has been directed to continue to close deals, and if that results in needed belt-tightening down the road, we will have to make tough choices. Suppliers will be evaluated on an individual basis for quality and cost and some consolidation may occur. If possible we'll seek to move some to part time status, but if necessary a reduction in force would take place.
Keep up the good work out there, and everyone give thanks for the capitalistic society we live in!
[QUOTE=Zomby; 1849053]My one and only SB was a stripper when we started. After a little over four years, she's gone now, and I don't certainly don't expect lightning to strike twice, but there is an undeniable appeal, for me, with strippers. Before my SB, I would have said that I just love the hunt, and there's certainly an aspect of that still to it even now, after I've started frequenting clubs again. It's not quite the same at the moment, though, and I don't know if it ever will be.
Part of the problem is that I, probably very foolishly, developed a very real, and moderately deep, affection for her. In my defense, it was not entirely one-way, but I made it clear even when I told her how I felt that I wasn't planning on making any changes to my marriage, and she wanted the whole family thing with her boyfriend, now husband. I certainly don't blame her for pursuing [I]that [/I]dream.
We parted on good terms, which almost makes it worse, if that's doesn't sound idiotic. If there'd been a falling out, it would be easy to get over "that beotch," but this way, every girl I see gets compared to her, and the comparison is not always favorable.[/QUOTE]Short time lurker. Just getting in to this after having a relationship exactly like the stripper relationship described here! . We'll, we still have this relationship off and on. I can't seem to end it even though it's totally unhealthy for both of us. Rather than having an ugly break up, I am hoping finding a new girl will help us both move on. We'll see. But in my short time in this world I am certain that this is far less expensive than my stripper girlfriend, even for some incredibly high quality girls.
Thanks everyone for this thread. This is an amazing resource. I had an attractive college girl tell me 900 for a trip to FC. I said sorry, we aren't even close. Ended up negotiating to $$. I would not have had the courage to do that without you guys!
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1725957]Mr. Strict: I-95 corridor, NOVA to Richmond, west to C'ville.
Fred Moore: Washington, DC with Charlotte, NC to Bethesda, MD and points in betweem.
BigTigg: VA, MD, DC, PA, DE (Travel SBs from: Cali, Atlanta, Buffalo, Alabama)
CantWinLosin: Richmond VA.
AliasSM: Baltimore and North.
Hernando:Richmond, Va to Washington, DC.
DantaKarma: Northern VA, DC, Southern MD.
HighCotton: Richmond VA.
HappyHunter44: Charlottesville, VA
GuyWoodson: Centreville VA.
SubCmdr. DC, MD, VA Cali (San Diego & Oceanside) and Las Vegas.
HollywoodGuy: Hollywood CA.
Wnde8: Los Angeles CA.
Bondo500: Central Ohio
TreasureHunter: Los Angeles, CA.
LoriTruck: NC, SC, GA.
Magic Rat: NC, SC.
Kyowa: far-western-Kentucky.
KY Man629: Central Kentucky to Southern Ohio and Southern Indiana.
ATLDrummer: Atlanta.
Joesouncool:GA / TN.
Donwhite: Nashville TN.
PatsFan1: So. NH and No. Mass.
F. Scott: Chicago and surrounding suburbs, OTR (Asheville, NC, and New Orleans)
Golfcart: Indiana.
West Central: Wabash Valley IN / IL, TX, MA, Oz.
Smokarz_XO: CT.
FotoGuy1970: Michigan[/QUOTE]EasyGoingJ : Charlottesville, Va. (slim pickings) Outer Banks (even less) Naples, Fl. (Utopia!)
I sent out 117 intro letters in the last 30 days. I always try to hit them up on their first day on the site. (at least half of those girls dropped off the site after the 3 day trial) I got about 10 m&g requests. I selected 3 to follow up on. The first one was a no show and I see she dropped off the site. The second one is a total hottie that is refusing sugar and making me court her civi style. The third one went straight to 2 visits in the FC, and I am sure there will be more. She is the definition of an easy lover. She likes whatever I do and does whatever I ask her to do (so far).
I never hit up girls on the street and hate rejection. But being rejected online doesn't bother me the least little bit.
Just curious.
I must be in an area where the babies are hiding in caves.
I counted exactly 8 new babies in 2 days.
I see you guys sending out dozen of intro letters to new babies every day. I need to move to where you guys live.
BTW, how do you find the exact date when a baby joined SD4M? SA has a profile created date, so it was easy to tell. No such date stamp on SD4M.
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1849254]Just curious.
I must be in an area where the babies are hiding in caves.
I counted exactly 8 new babies in 2 days.
I see you guys sending out dozen of intro letters to new babies every day. I need to move to where you guys live.
BTW, how do you find the exact date when a baby joined SD4M? SA has a profile created date, so it was easy to tell. No such date stamp on SD4M.[/QUOTE]There were 11 here (PHX) since yesterday and 84 in the last 7 days on SA. I have browsed SD4M but don't have an active account, not sure how you tell on there. I hadn't sent any letters out in a couple of weeks before the ones I sent yesterday and today. Almost all of them were to women who are new, with a couple of exceptions.
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1849254]Just curious.
I must be in an area where the babies are hiding in caves.
I counted exactly 8 new babies in 2 days.
I see you guys sending out dozen of intro letters to new babies every day. I need to move to where you guys live.
BTW, how do you find the exact date when a baby joined SD4M? SA has a profile created date, so it was easy to tell. No such date stamp on SD4M.[/QUOTE]We would be lucky to see eight new babies a month here, I'm mostly looking on SA here in Cville, and only counting the HYBs or the occasional coed. And this in a town with probably 10, 000 girls 18-25 enrolled at UVa, you would think some might want a friend. Heck if 99% weren't interested, that theoretically leaves another 100! That might be. School starts soon, maybe I need to kick up the search a little.
Not sure there is that info available on SD4M.
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1849254]Just curious.
I must be in an area where the babies are hiding in caves.
I counted exactly 8 new babies in 2 days.
I see you guys sending out dozen of intro letters to new babies every day. I need to move to where you guys live.
BTW, how do you find the exact date when a baby joined SD4M? SA has a profile created date, so it was easy to tell. No such date stamp on SD4M.[/QUOTE]Look for the member ID at the bottom left corner of the profile. Its up to (first 4 numbers) 3926
Just in case it hasn't already been posted here.
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/.tortion-578452[/url]
[QUOTE=EasyGoingJ;1849194]EasyGoingJ : Charlottesville, Va. (slim pickings) Outer Banks (even less) Naples, Fl. (Utopia!)[/QUOTE]KingGreg: Richmond, Charlottesville, VA, Williamsburg, Norfolk and DC (potentially). NY / NJ on business trips
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[QUOTE=KingGreg; 1849032]Guys, in Virginia
Please stay away from profile #1655973. Her real name is Hannah but she will lie, cheat and will do everything to trap you (money, gifts).
[url]http://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/detail.php?id=1655973[/url]
Richmond, C-Ville, and surrounding folks. PM me if you are planning to meet. I will give you details.
But. Don't even go to her.[/QUOTE]I am attaching a picture of this SB. If anyone can teach a lesson on how a SB not to rob a SD then please let me know. She is liar, will take money and rob you. I am sorry, I trust people very easily and if someone fake it. I can't read it. But this evil SB did take advantage.
I felt so bad that I am ready to stop being SD. She is in VCU Richmond downtown. I can send you number of her as well, and other details. I took her to Williamsburg and I should have left her there to teach a lesson. Please do me a favor. If anyone can teach her. By taking her out for a dinner and just leave her behind. That should shock SBs who are plain liar and robbers.
[QUOTE=KingGreg; 1849617]
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I am attaching a picture of this SB. If anyone can teach a lesson on how a SB not to rob a SD then please let me know. She is liar, will take money and rob you. I am sorry, I trust people very easily and if someone fake it. I can't read it. But this evil SB did take advantage.
I felt so bad that I am ready to stop being SD. She is in VCU Richmond downtown. I can send you number of her as well, and other details. I took her to Williamsburg and I should have left her there to teach a lesson. Please do me a favor. If anyone can teach her. By taking her out for a dinner and just leave her behind. That should shock SBs who are plain liar and robbers.[/QUOTE]If you are missing a few hundred. Shame on her. If it's more than that. Shame on you. If its less than that, stop complaining. Lesson learned.
[QUOTE=KingGreg; 1849617]
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I am attaching a picture of this SB. If anyone can teach a lesson on how a SB not to rob a SD then please let me know. She is liar, will take money and rob you. I am sorry, I trust people very easily and if someone fake it. I can't read it. But this evil SB did take advantage.
I felt so bad that I am ready to stop being SD. She is in VCU Richmond downtown. I can send you number of her as well, and other details. I took her to Williamsburg and I should have left her there to teach a lesson. Please do me a favor. If anyone can teach her. By taking her out for a dinner and just leave her behind. That should shock SBs who are plain liar and robbers.[/QUOTE]You think these Girls are Honest and Trustworthy? Where is your Common Sense? This is what happens when the "Little Head" does the thinking for you. Forget about trying to get Even. Just forget about her and move on. No use on dwelling on this issue.
My Advice;
Find yourself a Reliable Provider.
[QUOTE=Ron M; 1849709]You think these Girls are Honest and Trustworthy? Where is your Common Sense? This is what happens when the "Little Head" does the thinking for you. Forget about trying to get Even. Just forget about her and move on. No use on dwelling on this issue.
My Advice;
Find yourself a Reliable Provider.[/QUOTE]Well, thanks seniors. Don't have to bash me. Expected more support. Yes, I am fairly new in this world. But I am trying. And yes these are making me think, stronger and lessons learned. I am probably the most easier to be taken for ride as I trust people more than I trust myself. So, I need to change. Well, I get fooled easily. But it is ok.
I may or may not continue this world. As I don't think. I can learn the art of SD that well. I guess, it is SBs loss. As my offers are far better! I had a good 3 months of SB last year and then I came back. But may be the come back is not that great. May be the young 18-20 age group is here to play games.
Anyway, will see if I am here for long. So long
Well, I see few SBs who keep profile on SA, SD4Me and other places. They also know how to keep themselves on "newly joined" list. So they know how to get on top of the search. I saw a pattern of SBs in VA who always come on top.
For newbie, this is a flag. You are dealing with fire. And be smart. I learned this. And found that these so called new-SBs but PROs and know how to trap new SDs.
So, pattern: SB will refresh their profile every 2-3 days. They will come on top of search (newly joined). In the area.
Guys who prospect on SA in the Tidewater area of Va PM me for an alert. I must recognize your name to answer.
This brings me much pain because a previously reliable baby (SB # 1) got a cash advance (my bad) and blew me off. Like Ron M said, I'm forgetting about it and moving on. Hollywood said it all. The amount was a weekly allowance so not huge but I could have used it for another baby, so I'm pissed. Shame on her because she could've continued to collect from me week after week. I don't think I am so difficult to be with-at least she seemed to enjoy our sessions if her moaning and screaming orgasms are a reliable guide. The problem is that when you see a baby for a while and like her, the inclination is to trust her. Hard rules are the best (NEVER advance Sugar) in theory, but in practice it isn't always so clear. This baby is definitely a Nando 1
On a super positive note, my new ATF(# 4)- SB #4 is on week #2 in the FC . Our 1st date was outstanding! I reported on her below. She is my 1st Baby who absolutely loves sex and is very vocal and demanding about it. She is a HYB 10s across the board .
My SB #2 continues to please and can take all I can give her.
SB # 3, my AA hottie is turning out to be a little ghetto and is a little too shy in bed. Even though she has an awesome body she doesn't like oral and leaps up after cumming to wash and go. I'm letting her go.
Even though I love new pussy, I am going to concentrate on these two for now.
[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1849940]Guys who prospect on SA in the Tidewater area of Va PM me for an alert. I must recognize your name to answer.
But I could have used it for another baby, so I'm pissed.[/QUOTE]That is why I am upset. I could have used it for another SB. That is why I am pissed off.
[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1849940]Guys who prospect on SA in the Tidewater area of Va PM me for an alert. I must recognize your name to answer.
This brings me much pain because a previously reliable baby (SB # 1) got a cash advance (my bad) and blew me off. Like Ron M said, I'm forgetting about it and moving on. Hollywood said it all. The amount was a weekly allowance so not huge but I could have used it for another baby, so I'm pissed. Shame on her because she could've continued to collect from me week after week. I don't think I am so difficult to be with-at least she seemed to enjoy our sessions if her moaning and screaming orgasms are a reliable guide. The problem is that when you see a baby for a while and like her, the inclination is to trust her. Hard rules are the best (NEVER advance Sugar) in theory, but in practice it isn't always so clear.
On a super positive note, my new ATF (# 4) is on week #2 in the FC. Our 1st date was outstanding! I reported on her below. She is my 1st Baby who absolutely loves sex and is very vocal and demanding about it. She is a HYB 10s across the board.
My SB #2 continues to please and can take all I can give her.
SB # 3, my AA hottie is turning out to be a little ghetto and is a little too shy in bed. Even though she has an awesome body she doesn't like oral and leaps up after cumming to wash and go. I'm letting her go.
Even though I love new pussy, I am going to concentrate on these two for now.[/QUOTE]That's Great. Just stay with a Reliable Provider. At least you'll both know each other. And you don't have to worry about LEO.
[QUOTE=KingGreg; 1849883]Well, thanks seniors. Don't have to bash me. Expected more support. Yes, I am fairly new in this world. But I am trying. And yes these are making me think, stronger and lessons learned. I am probably the most easier to be taken for ride as I trust people more than I trust myself. So, I need to change. Well, I get fooled easily. But it is ok.
I may or may not continue this world. As I don't think. I can learn the art of SD that well. I guess, it is SBs loss. As my offers are far better! I had a good 3 months of SB last year and then I came back. But may be the come back is not that great. May be the young 18-20 age group is here to play games.
Anyway, will see if I am here for long. So long[/QUOTE]Greg, we are all happy to have you and other new SDs join our motley crew and particularly posters like you. The guys are just training you for the necessary thick skin one needs to navigate this Oh so treacherous but scintillating past time of ours. All of the major players on board have humbly taken their licks and more importantly shared them with the membership. That is how we all learn. And it is nice to think that even the mighty fall on occasion-it makes the rest of us feel like we are not so alone. I. E. I know better than to prepay a SB, but I did twice and had a wonderful time collecting on the one that worked. She was SOOO appreciative that I saved her ass financially that she was even more enthusiastic when she delivered the payback. I'm still limping from last night. The one that didn't work just upped the CPO for her sexspan with me. Averaged out it probably only added $25 per visit, aggravating but not terminal.
Sexspan a new term for the dick-tionary of Sugar Daddys: The duration or timespan of a sexual relationship, exclusive of M&Gs and non sexual platonic friendships.
So get a grip brother and keep writing as brother Scott says.
[QUOTE=KingGreg; 1849883]Well, thanks seniors. Don't have to bash me. Expected more support. Yes, I am fairly new in this world. But I am trying. And yes these are making me think, stronger and lessons learned. I am probably the most easier to be taken for ride as I trust people more than I trust myself. So, I need to change. Well, I get fooled easily. But it is ok.
I may or may not continue this world. As I don't think. I can learn the art of SD that well. I guess, it is SBs loss. As my offers are far better! I had a good 3 months of SB last year and then I came back. But may be the come back is not that great. May be the young 18-20 age group is here to play games.
Anyway, will see if I am here for long. So long[/QUOTE]It's more like a Scolding. When you deal with these "Business" Girls you have to use common sense. Don't ever think these Girls will fall in Love with you and you'll live happily ever after. Pay only for the Time you spend with these Girls. Any money you give her outside of playtime is up to you. You seem to be a Nice guy from what I can gather, but always keep your Guard up when dealing with these Girls. Look for an older girl at least late 20's and up. They seem to have less Drama and Game Playing than the younger ones. Hey I've had my share of Mistakes, believe me. LOL! But I learned my lesson just like you're doing now.
[QUOTE=Ron M;1850184]It's more like a Scolding. When you deal with these "Business" Girls you have to use common sense. Don't ever think these Girls will fall in Love with you and you'll live happily ever after. Pay only for the Time you spend with these Girls. Any money you give her outside of playtime is up to you. You seem to be a Nice guy from what I can gather, but always keep your Guard up when dealing with these Girls. Look for an older girl at least late 20's and up. They seem to have less Drama and Game Playing than the younger ones. Hey I've had my share of Mistakes, believe me. LOL! But I learned my lesson just like you're doing now.[/QUOTE]Ron: Thanks but no thanks. If we can't teach lessons to these SBs then they will continue with other brothers of us. This girl can be easily taught a lesson. If I can do that help to my other SD bros then why not. This girl don't have car. And will come with you. I wish I could take her for ride or dinner on some other town (which she can do) and let her take a cab / taxi back. This will definitely tell her. That SDs know her.
[QUOTE=KingGreg; 1849883]Well, thanks seniors. Don't have to bash me. Expected more support. Yes, I am fairly new in this world. But I am trying. And yes these are making me think, stronger and lessons learned. I am probably the most easier to be taken for ride as I trust people more than I trust myself. So, I need to change. Well, I get fooled easily. But it is ok.
I may or may not continue this world. As I don't think. I can learn the art of SD that well. I guess, it is SBs loss. As my offers are far better! I had a good 3 months of SB last year and then I came back. But may be the come back is not that great. May be the young 18-20 age group is here to play games.
Anyway, will see if I am here for long. So long[/QUOTE]Greg,
Sometimes it takes us a while to hit our groove. The last time I re-entered the bowl it took me several months to get my game back. In the interim, there were many no-shows, flakes, and just plain weird babies. Don't abandon ship just yet, would be my advice.
That said, this is not a game for the faint of heart. You must remain fluid, adaptable and resourceful at all times. As I have said many times before, they are a quixotic breed, these babies, and the younger they are, the more elusive. You might try to focus on MILFs for a while, until you get your confidence up and feel like you've learned the ropes a bit more. Just an idea.
Additionally, I have developed a personal philosophy that I'd like to share with you. It is the principle of The Three Ps: patience, persistence and presence. Be in the moment when you are with your baby, or potential baby, and listen to what she is telling you, verbally and non-verbally. You can avoid many unpleasant outcomes by trusting your instincts.
Lastly, there is someone out there for everyone. You may just not have the best of luck with the younger fish. So be it. Focus on the yearlings, or perhaps the more experienced ones. A good friend of mine here in Chicago just got his world rocked this weekend by two MILFs at least ten years his senior, and he is one happy dude, let me assure you.
In the end, as has been said, this is not a game that all can play. If it's not for you, pick up your chips and head home. But if you have just had a few initial set-backs, once more into the breach, man!
Onward,
Scott
[QUOTE=FredMoore;1850166]Sexspan a new term for the dick-tionary of Sugar Daddys: The duration or timespan of a sexual relationship, exclusive of M&Gs and non sexual platonic friendships.[/QUOTE]Fred,
Love the new term! As I think back, it helps me to wrap my arms around situations that I though were longer-term than they really were. From dick in to dick denied, that is the sexspan, right?
Good job,
Scott
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1850306]Greg,
Sometimes it takes us a while to hit our groove. The last time I re-entered the bowl it took me several months to get my game back. In the interim, there were many no-shows, flakes, and just plain weird babies. Don't abandon ship just yet, would be my advice.
That said, this is not a game for the faint of heart. You must remain fluid, adaptable and resourceful at all times. As I have said many times before, they are a quixotic breed, these babies, and the younger they are, the more elusive. You might try to focus on MILFs for a while, until you get your confidence up and feel like you've learned the ropes a bit more. Just an idea.
Additionally, I have developed a personal philosophy that I'd like to share with you. It is the principle of The Three Ps: patience, persistence and presence. Be in the moment when you are with your baby, or potential baby, and listen to what she is telling you, verbally and non-verbally. You can avoid many unpleasant outcomes by trusting your instincts.
Lastly, there is someone out there for everyone. You may just not have the best of luck with the younger fish. So be it. Focus on the yearlings, or perhaps the more experienced ones. A good friend of mine here in Chicago just got his world rocked this weekend by two MILFs at least ten years his senior, and he is one happy dude, let me assure you.
In the end, as has been said, this is not a game that all can play. If it's not for you, pick up your chips and head home. But if you have just had a few initial set-backs, once more into the breach, man!
Onward,
Scott[/QUOTE]Preparedness+Opportunity=Success.
You need to have a boy scout mentality to win at this game. And many others
Hello my fellow brethren. Well I have a young sugar babe. 18 and I really like her. I mostly just like to have one sugarbaby because I don't want to expose myself to more risk, (especially with all the secret tracking going on nowadays.) She does try to negotiate with me often for more, but I'm used to haggling for anything so she is squeezing blood out of a stone from me. It can get really annoying sometimes though.
I don't really understand what is going on with my "babe." Sometimes I will text her and not hear anything 2-5 days in a row or longer. Other times she will hit me up out of the blue pleading to see her asap because she needs some cash. Usually, the man downstairs is happy to oblige, but I'm begging the answer, why can't I get a steady response from her? Maybe she is seeing someone else / etc? I don't get it. Do I need to find someone else to fill the position? Help a SD out.
So I renew my privilages with SA and my fingers take over while being coached by Junior. I send message after message and before you know it, I wind up with 42 messages all together that I either: sent initially or replied to. I go to reply to Pot#1, who lives in Iowa, & actually initiated the convo and I get an error message saying "To prevent spamming, we have limited the number of messages you can send in a 24 hour period." WHAT! I had just struck gold! So now I can't message this sugarbird, that said all she was looking for was a little fun, for 24 hours. It's like finding out Santa is not real. Anyone else ran into this problem?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1850405]Preparedness+Opportunity=Success.
You need to have a boy scout mentality to win at this game. And many others[/QUOTE]Brothers.
I am back. I think my frustration is over! Someone did some prayer. Looks like. I met 1 SB and hopefully will be my ATF for long term. I think in last 2-3 days frustration of loosing to winning a medal. It can happen.
I met this new SB, charming personality, and the way I like. We met between our two cities (half way. So drive was 45-50 mins). What a beautiful evening. Coffee and then directly desert. Loved it. Still not completely open. As SB said not on first date.
I hope I found my ATF. Will follow some of the preparedness+opportunity rule of success. Thanks Scott and HG and others.
Looks Like I am in the game for a while.
[QUOTE=KingGreg;1850295]Ron: Thanks but no thanks. If we can't teach lessons to these SBs then they will continue with other brothers of us. This girl can be easily taught a lesson. If I can do that help to my other SD bros then why not. This girl don't have car. And will come with you. I wish I could take her for ride or dinner on some other town (which she can do) and let her take a cab / taxi back. This will definitely tell her. That SDs know her.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you're still Mad. Best to just let it go. Don't focus on how you're going to get Revenge on her. Just find yourself an Awesome Provider. Believe me you'll forget about this Girl that Cheated you. We've all been Ripped Off by these kinds of Girls, me included. There's nothing you can do. So just move on and find an Awesome Provider. I did. Good Luck to you.
Just forget about the past, and move forward. .
Just to prepare that these pots can go anytime, and need to move on when the time comes.
[QUOTE=KingGreg; 1850642]Brothers.
I am back. I think my frustration is over! Someone did some prayer. Looks like. I met 1 SB and hopefully will be my ATF for long term. I think in last 2-3 days frustration of loosing to winning a medal. It can happen.
I met this new SB, charming personality, and the way I like. We met between our two cities (half way. So drive was 45-50 mins). What a beautiful evening. Coffee and then directly desert. Loved it. Still not completely open. As SB said not on first date.
I hope I found my ATF. Will follow some of the preparedness+opportunity rule of success. Thanks Scott and HG and others.
Looks Like I am in the game for a while.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Just757; 1850431]Hello my fellow brethren. Well I have a young sugar babe. 18 and I really like her. I mostly just like to have one sugarbaby because I don't want to expose myself to more risk, (especially with all the secret tracking going on nowadays.) She does try to negotiate with me often for more, but I'm used to haggling for anything so she is squeezing blood out of a stone from me. It can get really annoying sometimes though.
I don't really understand what is going on with my "babe." Sometimes I will text her and not hear anything 2-5 days in a row or longer. [b]Other times she will hit me up out of the blue pleading to see her asap because she needs some cash[/b]. Usually, the man downstairs is happy to oblige, but I'm begging the answer, why can't I get a steady response from her? Maybe she is seeing someone else / etc? I don't get it. Do I need to find someone else to fill the position? Help a SD out.[/QUOTE]Couple things stand out to me:
1. She likely has a narcissistic personality
2. She clearly sees a use for you, but only as a non-priority.
I would establish some expectations regarding communication with 0 room for excuses (phone was off, emergency etc)
[QUOTE=Just757; 1850431]Hello my fellow brethren. Well I have a young sugar babe. 18 and I really like her. I mostly just like to have one sugarbaby because I don't want to expose myself to more risk, (especially with all the secret tracking going on nowadays.) She does try to negotiate with me often for more, but I'm used to haggling for anything so she is squeezing blood out of a stone from me. It can get really annoying sometimes though.
I don't really understand what is going on with my "babe." Sometimes I will text her and not hear anything 2-5 days in a row or longer. Other times she will hit me up out of the blue pleading to see her asap because she needs some cash. Usually, the man downstairs is happy to oblige, but I'm begging the answer, why can't I get a steady response from her? Maybe she is seeing someone else / etc? I don't get it. Do I need to find someone else to fill the position? Help a SD out.[/QUOTE]Hey Just 757, sounds like you have landed a Nando 1, and she is just using you as an ATM when she needs a cash infusion. If you want more emotional buy in then she is not the one for you, but if a fuck buddy is acceptable then keep her on the side and continue looking for a "real" SB. Tell her how it has to be since you are the guy with the $$. Yes, they have the pussy but she needs the $$. Tell her 1) no more nagging about money. 2) what her allowance will be. 3) expect to answer your texts within 8 hrs, and 4) hit the road if that doesn't work for her. And be prepared to drop her from your rotation if she defies you. There are plenty more where she came from.
[QUOTE=LoriTruck;1850565]So I renew my privilages with SA and my fingers take over while being coached by Junior. I send message after message and before you know it, I wind up with 42 messages all together that I either: sent initially or replied to. I go to reply to Pot#1, who lives in Iowa, & actually initiated the convo and I get an error message saying "To prevent spamming, we have limited the number of messages you can send in a 24 hour period." WHAT! I had just struck gold! So now I can't message this sugarbird, that said all she was looking for was a little fun, for 24 hours. It's like finding out Santa is not real. Anyone else ran into this problem?[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly that happened to me on SA once when I was trying to send multiple messages.