Massage Parlor Reports

You have a lot to say on your 1st post.

So I go into a room close the door or curtain come out 1-hr later and you know how much to expect me to give you. Think what you want but not everyone goes there for FS. I not only speak it, I live it, eat it, sleep it and everything I do revolves around Koreans. Some of which you say is accurate for the most part you don't have a clue either. 70% don't have proper documentation to fly.

[QUOTE=Bigvinny]Actually, the previous poster did have a clue. Some places do take the house fee plus a percentage of the girls tip, if not why risk FS when NoVa finish incurs less risk for the house. Of course, every place has its own rules and it would be arrogant and silly to think that one knows how every AMP is run. I am half Korean and speak the language. I have overheard many a conversation between the girls about tip percentage take for the house. Also, the girls can use house transport.. but will use train,bus, and even planes to get to places. One thing some of you may not know is some of the girls are American born and pretend to have an accents. Many a place will not let in Korean as clients because of this and cause they do not want the girls really talking with clients- believe it or not! But do agree that is very tough work- specially with the rude clients![/QUOTE]

The majority of them come here in debt.

I know of several over $200,000 in debt paid off in less than two years.




[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Places in NOVA, DC and MD, do not take any of the tip. The girls get 10-20.00 of the house money, never more, certainly not 20-40. 20 is the high point.
They pay for food, the average tip is not 100.00 some people tip none, 5,10,20 etc. The average tip over the course of a day is about 30-40.00

Someone has a really screwed up idea of spa economics.

Shelf life for these girls is 3-5 years tops if they can take the work that long, most can not.

14-17hr days are normal, girls see about 3-5 people a day at a busy spa, sometimes up to 6-8, but that is rare.

This is 1st hand from several girls working the area.

No where near 170k. If they earned that in a year, in 2 they would be gone.


Almost all of these girls are Chinese Koreans (Koreans born in China) I have never met an american Korean girl working a spa in this area.[/QUOTE]

I`m done with this.................

[QUOTE=Rejected Monke] But keep in mind that they actually sleep in these AMPs so it's more like a 24/7 job with extended vacations. [/QUOTE]

That used to be the case years ago before raids, but now they don't spend the night there. That would be a violation of zoning laws, which prohibit residences in the neighborhoods most AMPs are in. On some AMP raids (as shown on TV), one thing they look for is evidence of the AMP being used as a residence.

The place at the Hilton is a joke.

[QUOTE=Just Ken]Where the hell did you get that facts? I have been to a few AMP's in a number of states and have yet to meet one that was born in China. I have also met several that were US born. I have spent a number of years in Korean and speak a little of the language. I prefer to find a lady who meets my needs and become a regular. As a result, I become to know them very well. Some of them are divorced from americans and have children and have been in the business a long time. I know of one that is in her last 40's and has been doing this for 15-20 years. This is the only way she could afford to put her daughter through school, who recently graduated medical school. I have met the daughter, absolutely gorgeous BTW. My point is, most of these ladies do this for a lot of reasons, but the obvious reason is the $$$$. The amount they make depends on many factors, but the ones that I personally know make a butt load of money, no pun intended. This is just a guess on my part, but I suspect the ladies in DC are mostly black market and are taken advantage of. That is one of the reasons I do not patronize these locations. I would also guess that they probably bring in close to the amounts stated, but do not see most of it.[/QUOTE]


I have dated and I am dating a girl from this area who has worked several of the area spas. My info is 1st hand.

THEY WILL NOT HONESTLY TELL YOU, that they are from China. Do not ask me why, several girls have other girls call around when looking for jobs because they speak Korean with a Chinese accent and the Korean spa owners can tell, and some wont hire them. Chinese spa owners(and there are many in MD) will hire either Korean, or Chinese/Korean ladies.

The ones working in the Maryland spas, MOSTLY are from China, and live in the small area in Flushing, NY. Many from the same area in China.

Believe what you want when you are in the room, but the girl does and will lie to you especially if she thinks what she tells you will be repeated.

[QUOTE=Drofnalb]

For instance, 3-5 years tops, why is that?

[/QUOTE]

Because of burn out and emotional fatigue(for the ones working in more then the R&T places), customers expecting young girls, owners wanting to rotate, etc.

I do not frequent many Spa's in DC, but what I said holds true for almost all of the MD spas I have visited, also for PA, NJ and NY (I have visited many in those states as well).

I did not say these girls can not make 100k a year, if they are working in more than a R&T, which is very busy, they can. But the 170k figure is too high, everyone of them would be happy to hit 100k.

Are there some American Asians working AMPs, absolutely yes, not alot but there are some.

Some been here 10 years? Yes, most do not plan on staying that long, someone without any ties would probably stay indefinately. Most of them have come here to make money to support their family back home, and do NOT plan on make it their life's work. How long could you stay away from your, mother, father, wife, husband, son or daughter?

[QUOTE=Macphisto]That used to be the case years ago before raids, but now they don't spend the night there. That would be a violation of zoning laws, which prohibit residences in the neighborhoods most AMPs are in. On some AMP raids (as shown on TV), one thing they look for is evidence of the AMP being used as a residence.[/QUOTE]

Maybe not in DC, but this is common place in MD. BT, Spa1, all the Baltimore spots, Rising Sun, etc. They do sleep inside, and yes it violates the zoning laws. But these spa owners take care of what they need to and insure no one ever checks.

I can tell you who sleeps in what room at BT.

Do you fellas think that maybe we could get back to the point here?

This subject has been beaten to death and I really think that the majority just does not give a damn about how much they make or where they sleep.

Thank you!

JJ

[QUOTE=Sleazebum]Do you fellas think that maybe we could get back to the point here?

This subject has been beaten to death and I really think that the majority just does not give a damn about how much they make or where they sleep.

Thank you!

JJ[/QUOTE]

Ok, fair enough. Lets get back to what the board is about.
Please remember 1 thing though. As hobbiests, its our duty to take care of the girls and treat them well. With out them we would not have a 'hobby'.


Thanks
BB

[QUOTE=Readerx]Hi Friends,

Saw Angie today. Fun as usual. But more interesting is the news:

1. She is going on vacation (NJ) next Friday for 3 weeks. Will return about Thanksgiving.

2. Ruby and Coco are coming back next week.

3. All girls there are friends and do not have problems with our varying tastes.

Have fun and be safe,

Rx[/QUOTE]

I passed by today since Angie is on vacation and Ruby was busy, I saw Sara the new girl who is going back to California in few days. Regular fun stuff but I will miss Suzie's famous backwalk massage among other things.

Loopy de Loop

[QUOTE=Loopy De Loop]I passed by today since Angie is on vacation and Ruby was busy, I saw Sara the new girl who is going back to California in few days. Regular fun stuff but I will miss Suzie's famous backwalk massage among other things.

Loopy de Loop[/QUOTE]How is Sara?

Is Coco the same girl that was there a few months ago?

'berries,

Can not comment from personal experience (yet!), but Angie said she was.

Rx

[QUOTE=Cranberries]How is Sara?

Is Coco the same girl that was there a few months ago?[/QUOTE]

I did not see Coco.
Sara is shorter than Ruby has a bit of meat on her body unlike Ruby, has short hair , seems younger than either Angie or Suzie.
Speaks english well.
Went thru the motions and was smiling and appreciative at the end.
Seniors PM for details.

Loopy de Loop
The monger woolf

Yukiko, one of my ATF has moved to DC area. I'm going to be in the area for business, and would like to see here again, any help would be deeply appreciated.

WHLnDEAL

[QUOTE=Whlndeal]Yukiko, one of my ATF has moved to DC area. I'm going to be in the area for business, and would like to see here again, any help would be deeply appreciated. WHLnDEAL[/QUOTE]
The girls around DC change/adopt names faster than Danica Patrick changes lanes. I doubt she is using the same name by which you know her. However, it might help to know her nationality (sounds Japanese), physical description, and what type of work she does (AMP, private residence, etc.).

AD

Alpha D, thanks for the help. She will be working in an AMP, not private residence. Yes, she is Japaneese, late twentys, attractive, slim build by our standards, with B-C cups, and a perfect ass. Probably at rub-n-tub, not FS place.

Whlndeal

I know of one place in NE that is generally open during the weeee hours. But what ARE their hours? I'd like to try to hit it on opening and closing. PM me if you know. Thanks. Ex

Hey guys,

I'm new on here and looking for a good massage with a simple hand shake or possibly a kiss. However, I don't know the places (and haven't been so don't know how to initiate, or even proper prices).

If anyone could PM me or just respond with some good places (I think I saw that "VIP" was good, but several VIP massage places popped up on a google search, so I don't know which it is) and maybe some help on how to initiate, prices, and what to tip.

Also I read that some people beforehand, but what is the normal procedure? I don't want to pay $160 to just get a massage and have them screw me over (mind you, i understand that they also don't want to get screwed over either).

Thanks guys,

Johnny

[QUOTE=Johnny20]Hey guys,

I'm new on here and looking for a good massage with a simple hand shake or possibly a kiss. However, I don't know the places (and haven't been so don't know how to initiate, or even proper prices).

If anyone could PM me or just respond with some good places (I think I saw that "VIP" was good, but several VIP massage places popped up on a google search, so I don't know which it is) and maybe some help on how to initiate, prices, and what to tip.

Also I read that some people beforehand, but what is the normal procedure? I don't want to pay $160 to just get a massage and have them screw me over (mind you, i understand that they also don't want to get screwed over either).

Thanks guys,

Johnny[/QUOTE]

Trying very hard not to flame the hell out of you or call you Johnny Law, or whatever.

To answer your question, go to Vermont Therapy its near 14th and K street NW, just one block up. They will take care of you and for the price you're looking for....no FS.

[QUOTE=Johnny20]Hey guys,

I'm new on here and looking for a good massage with a simple hand shake or possibly a kiss. However, I don't know the places (and haven't been so don't know how to initiate, or even proper prices).

If anyone could PM me or just respond with some good places (I think I saw that "VIP" was good, but several VIP massage places popped up on a google search, so I don't know which it is) and maybe some help on how to initiate, prices, and what to tip.

Also I read that some people beforehand, but what is the normal procedure? I don't want to pay $160 to just get a massage and have them screw me over (mind you, i understand that they also don't want to get screwed over either).

Thanks guys,

Johnny[/QUOTE][b]What does it friggin' take?!!![/b]

Why is it that so many newcomers seem incapable of doing even a cursory reading of this forum? Yeah, I can see that this guy seems to be saying that he did some reading "beforehand" but obviously not very much.

Suggestion to newbies who are reading this forum but have yet to make their first post: [b]RTFF![/b] Read the freaking file, dammit! It ain't that difficult, and the info you're looking for is probably already there. It just takes a brief investment of your time.

Whenever you just come out and post something like this, which clearly says you've got a bad case of blue balls, it just shows that you gave about 10 seconds worth of time to reading any of the very many informative reports that other members have posted up. Why do you think they've bothered to post a report? For the fun of it? No, it's so other members can benefit.

So, once again, read the damn file before you come out and ask for information that's already available.

RR

PS - The Roman Senator votes to temporarily censure any newbs who don't know how to put on their togas properly and obviously don't know their Latin from their Vulgate.

Hey guys.

I'm new! I just typed in [url]www.usasexguide.info[/url], and well, HERE I AM !

How do I get a massage?

[QUOTE=Exclient]Hey guys.

I'm new! I just typed in [url]www.usasexguide.info[/url], and well, HERE I AM !

How do I get a massage?[/QUOTE]
Go to the middle of the road, lay down, and wait. When you can't feel the pain anymore, flip.

AD goes to bed LHAO!

[QUOTE=Exclient]Hey guys.

I'm new! I just typed in [url]www.usasexguide.info[/url], and well, HERE I AM !

How do I get a massage?[/QUOTE]

He was being sarcastic.... see the post by a newbie (Johnny20 or something like that) a few posts down.

BTW, have you seen our girl at Green lately? I thought I read on here that she was back...but, others said it was a different girl with the same name.

Van

[QUOTE=Drofnalb]It is mostly tourism going on there, Lisa @ Golden Nails is your best shot.

She has probably given BBBJ to half the members on this site.

Let us know.[/QUOTE]Huh. This is hard to believe. I clearly don't get out enough anymore.

And it looks like I've missed a scintillating sociological debate the last couple weeks.

[QUOTE=Roamin Roman][b]What does it friggin' take?!!![/b]

Why is it that so many newcomers seem incapable of doing even a cursory reading of this forum? Yeah, I can see that this guy seems to be saying that he did some reading "beforehand" but obviously not very much.

Suggestion to newbies who are reading this forum but have yet to make their first post: [b]RTFF![/b] Read the freaking file, dammit! It ain't that difficult, and the info you're looking for is probably already there. It just takes a brief investment of your time.

Whenever you just come out and post something like this, which clearly says you've got a bad case of blue balls, it just shows that you gave about 10 seconds worth of time to reading any of the very many informative reports that other members have posted up. Why do you think they've bothered to post a report? For the fun of it? No, it's so other members can benefit.

So, once again, read the damn file before you come out and ask for information that's already available.

RR

PS - The Roman Senator votes to temporarily censure any newbs who don't know how to put on their togas properly and obviously don't know their Latin from their Vulgate.[/QUOTE]

Simple, they are cops. I think about 50% of this board and 90% of first time posters are cops. Even their lazy asses won't do any research and will just ask a question, what does it hurt and they don't give a shit anyways--we're just dirtbags to them. Even though they'll go into a parlor, get all washed up and let the play with their Johnson, then bust them for prostitution--while they get their jollies on the taxpayer dime.

Damn, I'm clearly in the wrong field. Better yet, I should get into politics, so I can have taxpayers pay for high priced escorts.

I'm going to kill my guidance counselor.

On a side note -- I think a large influx of n00bs is due to various internet sites finding us as of late. We're probably past the 4chan stage, but it's sort of like when AOL started opening up to the rest of the internet years ago. When a little bubble gets burst, all the newbies come in and poke around, covering the usual stuff that's already been covered. Eventually they become used to it, and they're yelling at people to RTFF as well. We just have to deal with it for a while.

[QUOTE=Drunker Irish]Simple, they are cops. I think about 50% of this board and 90% of first time posters are cops. Even their lazy asses won't do any research and will just ask a question, what does it hurt and they don't give a shit anyways--we're just dirtbags to them. Even though they'll go into a parlor, get all washed up and let the play with their Johnson, then bust them for prostitution--while they get their jollies on the taxpayer dime.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VanDriver]He was being sarcastic.... see the post by a newbie (Johnny20 or something like that) a few posts down.

BTW, have you seen our girl at Green lately? I thought I read on here that she was back...but, others said it was a different girl with the same name.

Van[/QUOTE]

I think it depends on which Nana you knew. Not the Nana I knew, but fantastic service. Same Nana as others have experienced, as she has been around for awhile. Either way, definately worth a visit. If anybody can give a review on the new girl, would be appreciated--and not Cici.

TIA

I have always believed that flogging has its place! Torture in general is usually FUN for the giver and sometimes fun for the receiver as well.

Like the bumper sticker says:

I'D RATHER BE WATERBOARDING!

JJ



[QUOTE=Roamin Roman][b]What does it friggin' take?!!![/b]

Why is it that so many newcomers seem incapable of doing even a cursory reading of this forum? Yeah, I can see that this guy seems to be saying that he did some reading "beforehand" but obviously not very much.

Suggestion to newbies who are reading this forum but have yet to make their first post: [b]RTFF![/b] Read the freaking file, dammit! It ain't that difficult, and the info you're looking for is probably already there. It just takes a brief investment of your time.

Whenever you just come out and post something like this, which clearly says you've got a bad case of blue balls, it just shows that you gave about 10 seconds worth of time to reading any of the very many informative reports that other members have posted up. Why do you think they've bothered to post a report? For the fun of it? No, it's so other members can benefit.

So, once again, read the damn file before you come out and ask for information that's already available.

RR

PS - The Roman Senator votes to temporarily censure any newbs who don't know how to put on their togas properly and obviously don't know their Latin from their Vulgate.[/QUOTE]

First report, so I TOFTT but ended up satisfied anyway.

Tried some southern comfort:

[url]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/1462540253.html[/url]

Julie met me at the door, a little chubby, late 30s/early 40s, but very friendly. House took .8

Table shower was clean, she attended to everything without prompting.

Massage started with intense shogun, rather professional - arms and legs rearranged more than once. Neck cracked - then the flip. It was clear that everything was on the menu, but having just finished about 12 hours of driving, I didn't want to do a thing. Offered .6 for a CBJ, and Julie was very thorough. Some nude grinding, a hint of Russian, then much licking and kissing around the area before a very skilled performance of the deed.

Afterwards, the massage continued - I got my full hour. If I'm in the area again, I'll return.

Gents,

NaNa has gone Ta-Ta (pun sorrowfully intended). I wrote about the new girl twice. Have I gotta tell ya' the RTF...? ;-)

I knew he was bein' sarcastic. I just didn't want him to have all the fun to himself.

AD

Went to Green last night since it'd been a while, and I'd rather not hit Star on a hopping bar night. Drew Luby(Ruby?), who I think might've been the one that worked at Downtown forever ago. Description is similar, but it's long enough ago that I don't remember quite what the other one looked like.

Anyway, cute, tiny little thing, with a perky little chest. I'm generally a little happy when they're quite so tiny, since I'm afraid I'll break them, but I wasn't complaining. Wasn't too crowded last night, so she took her time in the TS, and gave me a nice soapy massage, paying a lot of attention to the Pacific rim area, practically giving me a prostate rub while she was at it. Very nice.

Massage was ok, not great. It was a weird technique, where most of it was her pressing down in specific spots, almost like a back walk, but she just used her hands. Felt good, but not sure it did a whole lot.

Main event was nice, starting with the usual mouthwork, with a twist, where I got to DATY her while I got mine. That alone might have been better than the actual event, since a phrase involving golf balls and garden hoses comes to mind, and well, she has a sweet little package. Main event was doggy, which seemed to be what she was mostly interested in. Fine with me.

Not quite as friendly as other providers have been in the past after the main event, but it was late, so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.

Overall, not bad, I'd repeat, but would prefer Mae if she's still there, or trying someone new.

I went there yesterday to see my favorite Sasha or Sara, but the place has the closed signed, I called but no answer.

Jim

[QUOTE=Triple E]Went to Green last night since it'd been a while, and I'd rather not hit Star on a hopping bar night. Drew Luby(Ruby?), who I think might've been the one that worked at Downtown forever ago. Description is similar, but it's long enough ago that I don't remember quite what the other one looked like.

Anyway, cute, tiny little thing, with a perky little chest. I'm generally a little happy when they're quite so tiny, since I'm afraid I'll break them, but I wasn't complaining. Wasn't too crowded last night, so she took her time in the TS, and gave me a nice soapy massage, paying a lot of attention to the Pacific rim area, practically giving me a prostate rub while she was at it. Very nice.
Overall, not bad, I'd repeat, but would prefer Mae if she's still there, or trying someone new.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the review, was wondering who girl the new girl was at Green. Mae isn't there, she was excellent for the right customer, just not me. She isn't there (or wasn't the past few weeks). Just Cici and Nana. Cici is cute, older under bright lights but good enough when dimmed. Cici does the same action as Ruby it sounds like.

[QUOTE=Drofnalb]Does anyone have any stories or advice on what the Massage scene is like in Korea?

I have never been, but this is the origin of most of our providers.

Is it worth a visit?[/QUOTE]I spent 6 years in Korea. I wouln't say there is a massage scene in Korea. If you go to Seoul, go to E tae won right up the street from the US Army base Yonson. There is a hill called Hooker hill. Walk up the hill any part of the day and you will get what you want. Now I heard that Korea now imports a lot of girls from Viet Nam, China and some old eastern block countries so I can't really say what it is like today. Any way stay away from the clubs in E Tea Won. The girls will rip you off. You should try the international board if you want updated info.

[QUOTE=Triple E]Went to Green last night since it'd been a while, and I'd rather not hit Star on a hopping bar night. Drew Luby(Ruby?), who I think might've been the one that worked at Downtown forever ago. Description is similar, but it's long enough ago that I don't remember quite what the other one looked like.

Anyway, cute, tiny little thing, with a perky little chest. I'm generally a little happy when they're quite so tiny, since I'm afraid I'll break them, but I wasn't complaining. Wasn't too crowded last night, so she took her time in the TS, and gave me a nice soapy massage, paying a lot of attention to the Pacific rim area, practically giving me a prostate rub while she was at it. Very nice.

Massage was ok, not great. It was a weird technique, where most of it was her pressing down in specific spots, almost like a back walk, but she just used her hands. Felt good, but not sure it did a whole lot.

Main event was nice, starting with the usual mouthwork, with a twist, where I got to DATY her while I got mine. That alone might have been better than the actual event, since a phrase involving golf balls and garden hoses comes to mind, and well, she has a sweet little package. Main event was doggy, which seemed to be what she was mostly interested in. Fine with me.

Not quite as friendly as other providers have been in the past after the main event, but it was late, so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.

Overall, not bad, I'd repeat, but would prefer Mae if she's still there, or trying someone new.[/QUOTE]Ruby?

This is not the same Ruby from Star that a visited a few weeks ago, is it. Man she is a gem

[QUOTE=Jimvs]I went there yesterday to see my favorite Sasha or Sara, but the place has the closed signed, I called but no answer.

Jim[/QUOTE]

They may just be taking a day off. You never know at that place. Let us hope they come back.

[QUOTE=Drunker Irish]Mae isn't there... just Cici and Nana.[/QUOTE]

If this is the same Nana that worked at Backlick recently, you should expect a great massage from her. Nana at Backlick had great hands and her backwalking was excellent. K girl with c cups, curly hair past her shoulders, 5'2" or so and 115 lbs. She has a very sweet personality. One of my favorites in the area.

Too far for me to drive now that I am in MD. But if anyone here draws her, please let me know if it is the same Nana from Backlick. If so, I may have to reacquaint myself with her techniques.

AD

saw sara that loopy reviewed. cute girl. good service. she reminds me of one the girls singing in this music video.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA7fdSkp8ds[/url]

loopy said she will be gone by this weekend but she told me she here until the end of the month. must have changed her mind.

[QUOTE=Jimvs]I went there yesterday to see my favorite Sasha or Sara, but the place has the closed signed, I called but no answer.

Jim[/QUOTE]Very upsetting.

Moving on.