The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[QUOTE=Falconwings33;6749699]Thanks for the review bud. I have scheduled a meet and greet with this girl who goes by Jennifer soon, is this the same one who stood you up?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1f470c4d-4367-4f49-a015-8a6aaf672e29[/URL][/QUOTE]I wouldn't say she was an escort but definitely was on SA & quickly DTF. I had some board member / brothers that saw her. Good reviews.

I was ready to see her a few years ago. I asked for a bum pic & she went postal on me. Found out later she had lost over 100 lbs and went to Florida for surgery to tighten up loose belly skin. TMI? LOL.

So, is she offering full service now or is she still oral only?

There were a couple posts about someone getting FS from her recently but that thread died.

Asking for money upfront. Don't fall for it.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8cf473f3-d984-404c-8f3f-b133c08d85c8[/URL]

I haven't advanced to off line coms with her. For 8 I expect everything and over night I'll see if she blocks me after that LOL.

[QUOTE=MikeIsRight;6747944]Yea I've been talking to her on an off for about a month due to her spotty texting. Wanted to plan something because her pics were hot and she hit me with $1000 PPM with no room to negotiate granted she's driving 2 hrs to see me but still 1 k is insane so safe to say I'll only be seeing her if I'm in the area. Has anyone actually seen her? I want to see her nude pics and videos but she hasn't gotten back to me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FireMan32;6752069]Asking for money upfront. Don't fall for it.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8cf473f3-d984-404c-8f3f-b133c08d85c8[/URL][/QUOTE]She was quick to drop her number and wanted to meet the same day. I said I could mot meet that same day but could the following day. She said she'd probably.

Find someone that evening so the following day would be too late. We did not get to the point where she wanted money before meeting. She however quoted me 250-300.

She's on Seeking as I write this.

[QUOTE=Kzetana;6752103]I haven't advanced to off line coms with her. For 8 I expect everything and over night I'll see if she blocks me after that LOL.[/QUOTE]Haha she gave me her after my introduction message LOL I like to get to the point. But I do believe that I will partake in what she offered. Recently came into a fuckload of money and my motto is I'll try it 1 time YOLO. So will report back when I have something worth telling.

I have her number now. Please Take one for the team, it will have to be off the hook for that sort of cash.

[QUOTE=MikeIsRight;6752745]Haha she gave me her after my introduction message LOL I like to get to the point. But I do believe that I will partake in what she offered. Recently came into a fuckload of money and my motto is I'll try it 1 time YOLO. So will report back when I have something worth telling.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;6752681]She was quick to drop her number and wanted to meet the same day. I said I could mot meet that same day but could the following day. She said she'd probably.

Find someone that evening so the following day would be too late. We did not get to the point where she wanted money before meeting. She however quoted me 250-300.

She's on Seeking as I write this.[/QUOTE]Yea there was another one too but she blocked me before I could copy her profile.

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;6752681]She was quick to drop her number and wanted to meet the same day. I said I could mot meet that same day but could the following day. She said she'd probably.

Find someone that evening so the following day would be too late. We did not get to the point where she wanted money before meeting. She however quoted me 250-300.

She's on Seeking as I write this.[/QUOTE]Y'know something funny? I offered to buy her dinner the next day, she said that was too far away and it had to be that night. The discrepancy of wanting something long term but not being able to wait 24 hours was so weird I bailed before money was even discussed.

I decided to give her another try since she's petite and just adorably cute. Last time I was not able to fit inside her but she said that it should be better this time around. She came over and I was able to fit about halfway in. I am above average size. The experience was great and I will definitely be calling her again.

I might as well take a trip down memory lane and talk about some women I've seen in the past. Some of the guys here who have been on seeking for a long time, may have also seen them in person, or seen their profile on the site.

1. Tara.

That's the name she went by. Very tall, around 5'11 in height. It's been a long time but from messaging on seeking she was a bit of a headache to talk to on the site. Mostly very picky in terms of meeting and guarded at the start. Guard went down as our convo kept continuing. Seen her for a public meet up, and the arrangement itself. In the meet up, she was fine to talk to and in the arrangement itself, it went well. Was very Open Minded. However, hygiene was bad as her breath smelled. At the time, I lowballed her to below $200. If she ever comes back, not sure if she'd take this amount again or not. Communication wise, 8/10.

2. Colette.

Another tall woman. Around 5'11-6 feet. Very nervous and guarded. Felt like you had to walk on eggshells around her in terms of communication. While I did see her for the arrangement itself, did not repeat. Very attractive, but I can't remember anything else remarkable. Communication wise, 5/10. I did around $200-$300.

3. Melina.

5'11 in height. Very Very attractive. However, one of the worst people I met in terms of personality. Very judgmental, and not really open minded. When we talked, would constantly refer to the older men on SA as "creeps", and our convo in the arrangement itself was basically dead and dry. Things may be diff now, but judging strictly on arrangements she was one of the worst. Did $300 with her and regret it. 2/10 text comms.

4. Alexandra.

Around 5'6-5'8 in height. Text communication wise, 1/10. Horrible texter. IRL conversation wise, very good. Could have decent conversations and she was non judgemental. Has her own place, so you don't have to get a hotel. If she ever comes on the site again, negotiate hard. I did more than $300 with her, which I regret. Also has a pro vibe. But overall not bad and was very open minded.

5. Autumn.

Met this one before the pandemic. Around 5'8 in height. Looks wise, very attractive. Open Minded to an extent. Met her at a gentleman club for my public meet up and had a good convo. She didn't want to be paid for any dances nor did she ask for anything in terms of money. Seen her 2-3 more times for the arrangement itself and she eventually ghosted. I think I did around $200 with her? Text comms wise, 1/10.

6. Katie.

Pretty attractive and Open Minded. Around 5'5 in height. Has lots of tattoos. Used to be in NC, but moved to California a few years ago? This one didn't even want to do a public meet up and had a bit of a pro vibe but I found her very attractive and decided to see her. At the time, I went straight to the arrangement itself. PPM wise, I did $300-$350. From talking to her, it seemed like she had been burned or scammed hard in the past, but still managed to have something decent. Text comms wise 5/10.

I have a feeling other people on this site have done reviews / impressions of her on this board or in other sections.

7. Maddie.

Looked much better in person, compared to pics. One of the most open minded people I knew. Was down for pretty much anything, and at the time I did around $300 ish? Very good communication skills, and below average texting skills. Moved to another state for a bit, but did see me once in a blue moon.

Had a falling out because she decided to ask for drastically more in terms of PPM, and didn't see her again.


Note:
Pic 1= Tara
Pic 2= Colette
Pic 3=Melina
Pic 4= Autumn
Pic 5= Katie
Pic 6=Maddie
Pic 7=Alexandra

Made a mistake with some of the pic formatting, so i decided to list who is who.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aee76fe2-00fd-4f5b-8e1e-ab583a0a78c4[/URL]

Saw her last week and forgot to post. She's legit, nice looking lady. Pics are accurate. Very slim, athletic, strong body-- can tell she lives in the gym. Very good hygiene, intelligent lady and really nice attitude.

Had some fun and may repeat next time I'm in town. Senior members feel free to message me for details.

Has anyone here ever seen or talked with the following women on Seeking? Via online / text or IRL?

1. SweetMariah.

Talked with her last year and it moved to text and we were supposed to meet then, but then she went silent all of a sudden. Got the vibe she's no newbie when it comes to seeking. Thinking of reaching back out to her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aa125d36-190b-4a1f-8a6c-7817966d1f0a[/URL]

2. Ebaby1995.

Has a generic bio and has been on seeking since 2021. Messaged her a year ago, but didn't get a response at the time.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/93313f10-cb41-4533-bf52-f45b7d9ac779[/URL]

3. Gigi_love.

Is in her late 20's, also been on SA for a few years. Says she is very picky and outright says she isn't interested in African American Men. Even though she's been on seeking a long while, I don't have any recollection of ever reaching out to her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c5a27c4-10c6-470d-ad56-4e592d929da5[/URL]

4. BeautifulPrincess.

Had a decent convo with her on seeking months ago. But stuff fell through.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8c9ca0cb-0421-4644-a42e-73311ddec2cd[/URL]

5. Originalsoy.

Haven't messaged yet, but looks very attractive.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0ee76978-c1d3-4bdc-b1c0-5f501ba1cdaf[/URL]

6. smileygirlxoxo.

This person's been on the site for years with this same exact profile picture. Messaged her once a few years ago, but never got a response.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3339c906-3494-4cd7-b215-35f6ec72e80a[/URL]

7. NatashagotaWabbit.

Another individual who has been on seeking for years. Though this is another alt account of hers. Reached out in the past and would either be met with generic one word responses, or silence.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fb0cc0d9-c60b-4311-bd7a-381a7f657de6[/URL]

8. SassyC.

Spoke with her long ago. Wasn't very engaging and blocked when I reached out to her again.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ffc80952-8e0d-4b9a-861c-413ecee70b1f[/URL]

9. ExoticSky.

Looks extremely attractive, imo. Says she is a model, and from our brief convo mentioned that she's very picky.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0c158ddb-d610-47c7-ab48-c0a0e9dac70b[/URL]

Chatted and then texted with her about 5 months ago. She wanted 500 ppm, I offered 400 and she held firm at 450. I then tried to get more details of her bedroom restrictions before agreeing to her ppm. She got frustrated and said I was asking a lot of questions over 50 and said good luck in finding a SB LOL. However, she reached out to me a month or so later asking if I was interested in meeting up. I assumed she had come down to my ppm but she was thinking that I was agreeing to her ppm. And by the time we figured this out we had already agreed to a day / time for a meetup and she said she was done. So I got the same experienced SB vibe about her as you and thought about reaching out to her myself. But I would want to do a coffee meet and greet with her first to see how we vibe as I find the experienced ones are often more business like and less sugary LOL.

[QUOTE=SaintMan3500;6755364]Has anyone here ever seen or talked with the following women on Seeking? Via online / text or IRL?

1. SweetMariah.

Talked with her last year and it moved to text and we were supposed to meet then, but then she went silent all of a sudden. Got the vibe she's no newbie when it comes to seeking. Thinking of reaching back out to her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aa125d36-190b-4a1f-8a6c-7817966d1f0a[/URL]
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaintMan3500;6755364]Has anyone here ever seen or talked with the following women on Seeking? Via online / text or IRL?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0c158ddb-d610-47c7-ab48-c0a0e9dac70b[/URL][/QUOTE]Have spoken with originalsoy. Arranged a ppm but she is protected only. Despite showing a clean test she wouldn't budge, moved on.

What everyone is much more interested in. Have meet and had a night with the natashawabbit (on one of her other profiles a year back). Yes she has made lots of profiles, honestly semi pro. Be aware, SHE IS UNSTABLE. She fucks great. Lots of rounds, very open minded in bed. But she is a little crazy, she's fucked a lot of guys and has the crazy that comes with it. She is the type that might blackmail you later if she has your PII and feels spite to you. If you meet cash only. Use a burner number. NO PII. But epic creampies, may try to see her again. But she's super last minute chaotic. She the 10 hot 10 crazy on the hot crazy matrix. If you have met her we can PM about it but I won't answer any more about her here. You guys have been fairly warned despite her being a hot piece of ass.

[QUOTE=SaintMan3500;6755364]Has anyone here ever seen or talked with the following women on Seeking? Via online / text or IRL?
[/QUOTE]The only one of these I have actually fucked is NatashagotaWabbit, and that was a while back under one of her older profiles. She has moved around since then to Cali and DC. I was with her shortly after she had her tits implanted. As swimmer said, she felt batshit crazy. Like just weird. Was at dinner and she literally felt in and out of lucid conscious. Hot af, but I did not repeat.

ExoticSky. Have chatted with off and on several times, appears to be real but not serious. Have never been able to sustain convo long enough to meet.

Smileygirlxoxo. Talked to her during covid days, she wasn't down to meet due to pandemic bs. Have followed up couple times since but gone nowhere.

BeautifulPrincess. She was very interested, but found her socials and let's just say the pics on her profile are super flattering. Didn't pursue after seeing how she really looks Remember when a chick says she is "curvy" what she means is she is fat.

Gigi_love. Has never responded to me, but I am pretty sure I read here or someone I chat with from here said she wanted multiple thousands monthly allowance. Screaming gps.

Chatted and then texted off site. She is very firm with her 600 ppm and is down to meet but can't host. If she's in your budget, I think she may actually be fun as she has a west coast vibe to her. She has prior SB experience and she sells herself enough to entice you but will also keep you in line and not let you waste her time. Have a meet and greet planned so I'll update.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ead3e24-ae8f-4aa4-a3f2-c868b54940fe[/URL]

[QUOTE=AkaToneloc;6755959]Chatted and then texted off site. She is very firm with her 600 ppm and is down to meet but can't host. If she's in your budget, I think she may actually be fun as she has a west coast vibe to her. She has prior SB experience and she sells herself enough to entice you but will also keep you in line and not let you waste her time. Have a meet and greet planned so I'll update.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ead3e24-ae8f-4aa4-a3f2-c868b54940fe[/URL][/QUOTE]You can get that for 4!!

Someone must have recently paid her 6 because she refuses to even negotiate. Maybe she doesn't like my pics LOL.

[QUOTE=South215;6755972]You can get that for 4!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AkaToneloc;6756125]Someone must have recently paid her 6 because she refuses to even negotiate. Maybe she doesn't like my pics LOL.[/QUOTE]She quoted me 6 as well and wouldn't budge.

[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6755892]The only one of these I have actually fucked is NatashagotaWabbit, and that was a while back under one of her older profiles. She has moved around since then to Cali and DC. I was with her shortly after she had her tits implanted. As swimmer said, she felt batshit crazy. Like just weird. Was at dinner and she literally felt in and out of lucid conscious. Hot af, but I did not repeat.
.[/QUOTE]Alright just because seekingRDU shared some I'll share some more about her too. She actually showed up to the WRONG hotel during the night of our meet. Literally sent her the address verbatim room number included and she went somewhere else. So she was like 1. 5 hours late. I was honestly about to say screw it when she showed up because I was pissed but she looked hot so I gave it a pass. She plays the part sexually but it's clear she does not like SD's. Next morning I gave her the plan b and she was like "maybe I won't take it, it's my choice". I was internally like "I've stepped on a landline of a SB". She left, never heard back. Have spoken some since but she has strange and bizarre replies. She's the type that "might" as far as horror stories go. Just rub one out to her and find someone less stressful.

She uses older pics and is 20-30 lbs bigger now. When I first saw her I couldn't see all the extra weight because she was bundled in layers due to the morning cold temps. As she started removing clothes, I should have just stopped her. But hindsight. We agreed to 250 meet and I gave her 150 upfront and remainder to be given afterwards. Told her she shows the skills that she boasted about in our text that I would consider a tip. I use that sometimes when they aren't super chatty or friendly or in this case, I was hoping she would put in extra effort for me to get past the extra weight. We began with me playing with her large melons and then daty. After 2 "I'm coming for you daddy" fake orgasms, she asked can she quickly go to the bathroom. I had received a few texts that I had ignored so I jumped on my phone. After a minute or two she yells that she's texting a friend and to give her one more minute. All of a sudden she dashes out the bathroom and straight out the door! I rushed to the door with only boxers and no shirt to see her walking fast down the hallway. I'm not chasing after her. I guess as she took her clothes off, she had put them in her big purse. Well she got me and in the end I paid 150 for 15 minutes of titty play and fake orgasms daty. After years in the game, this is a first time mid-sex money grab for me. Can't post her profile page because she quickly blocked me but I have included her profile pic. Avoid her!

ToneLoc.

[QUOTE=FireMan32;6756203]She quoted me 6 as well and wouldn't budge.[/QUOTE]IMHO there is no world in which that chick is worth 600.

[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6756222]IMHO there is no world in which that chick is worth 600.[/QUOTE]600 is way too much, like other have said you can get for 300-400.

[QUOTE=Swimmer123;6755553]Have spoken with originalsoy. Arranged a ppm but she is protected only. Despite showing a clean test she wouldn't budge, moved on.

What everyone is much more interested in. Have meet and had a night with the natashawabbit (on one of her other profiles a year back). Yes she has made lots of profiles, honestly semi pro. Be aware, SHE IS UNSTABLE. She fucks great. Lots of rounds, very open minded in bed. But she is a little crazy, she's fucked a lot of guys and has the crazy that comes with it. She is the type that might blackmail you later if she has your PII and feels spite to you. If you meet cash only. Use a burner number. NO PII. But epic creampies, may try to see her again. But she's super last minute chaotic. She the 10 hot 10 crazy on the hot crazy matrix. If you have met her we can PM about it but I won't answer any more about her here. You guys have been fairly warned despite her being a hot piece of ass.[/QUOTE]I've seen Natashawabbit also, when she had another profile. We had a great vibe and we had Earth shattering meetups. I started to notice that she would say really really weird random shit, and it actually turned me off / freaked me out. I've had experiences with genuinely crazy chicks and they can / will destroy your life fellas. However, her looks and her freakiness kept me coming back. She told me she was falling for me and the combination of all of it made me pull away from her. She was really really pissed when I told her we should move on. And that's when she told me she was pregnant, LOL. It was two weeks of me being terrified before she told me she "made it up, but now I know what it's like to have feelings played with". If you can find a way to see this one relatively anonymously, go for it, but don't let her in your life no matter how great she seems. And don't be around her in the presence of sharp objects, LOL.

[QUOTE=MmceStep;6757582]I've seen Natashawabbit also, when she had another profile. We had a great vibe and we had Earth shattering meetups. I started to notice that she would say really really weird random shit, and it actually turned me off / freaked me out. I've had experiences with genuinely crazy chicks and they can / will destroy your life fellas. However, her looks and her freakiness kept me coming back. She told me she was falling for me and the combination of all of it made me pull away from her. She was really really pissed when I told her we should move on. And that's when she told me she was pregnant, LOL. It was two weeks of me being terrified before she told me she "made it up, but now I know what it's like to have feelings played with". If you can find a way to see this one relatively anonymously, go for it, but don't let her in your life no matter how great she seems. And don't be around her in the presence of sharp objects, LOL.[/QUOTE]Damn bro yeah that is wild. Lucky I only had a one off LOL.

I did meet someone many years ago on SA and we ended up dating more just normally for a few months, but it was clear after a bit she was psycho. I broke things off and then she went all out to try and ruin my life. After getting some lawyers involved she eventually backed down and found another BF to ruin. Since then I have had much better "craydar" and have passed up hooking with some hot women because they show the same signs.

Evening Gentlemen,

This one is too odd not to share. Came across Christine, she is very clear that she offers nothing physical but instead has started a cleaning business. I needed some deep organizing around the house so decided to take her up on the offer. Sure enough, she did an excellent job and we swapped SB / SD stories the entire time. Good to have someone on the payroll that understands the lifestyle, highly recommend.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c703a833-ce69-4404-a2b2-acf5b74b70c0[/URL]

Also as an aside, can also attest that NatashaRabbit is utterly unstable and a liability to herself and others (as long as we are pilling on).

[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6757763]Damn bro yeah that is wild. Lucky I only had a one off LOL.

I did meet someone many years ago on SA and we ended up dating more just normally for a few months, but it was clear after a bit she was psycho. I broke things off and then she went all out to try and ruin my life. After getting some lawyers involved she eventually backed down and found another BF to ruin. Since then I have had much better "craydar" and have passed up hooking with some hot women because they show the same signs.[/QUOTE]I've had 5 regular girlfriends that resulted from Sugar relationships. Every one of them turned out to be crazy, vindictive, and self destructive. I've given a lot of thought to why that is. The first thing I've decided is that once a woman sells it, she thinks it's always a transaction. Once a guy pays big bucks for it, it's always worth big bucks, every time. In regular relationships sometimes the woman wants it more than you do and it's just give and take. But, when you're in a relationship with one of these sugar girls, they're always mentally keeping score. It's all about cash value. So, when you think you're just 'having sex' with your girlfriend, she's thinking "I'm fucking him for free so that he marries me / lets me move in / takes care of me etc. " As soon as you decide it's not working and want to move on, they absolutely lose their shit. They act like you robbed a bank or something. They don't think about all the trips you took them on and all the money you spent. All they think is "I gave him extra! The other thing that I think about is what someone else said. The more guys these women are exposed to, the nuttier they get. I made the mistake of saying this to a woman that I've had on again / off again stuff for 12 years with. She got really mad at me because she said "why can you be with so many women and I can't be with as many men, just because I'm a woman?" I said that I've noticed that with women, every relationship they have seems to take something from them. They give the next guy all the angst that they wanted to give to the last guy. That didn't go over well. I think this is really why older men want to settle down with younger women or at least less experienced women.

Has anyone seen her? Immediately asking for my Snapchat and my number which is a red flag for me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d9594bba-e05e-4471-9757-7894a10eb859[/URL]

[QUOTE=FireMan32;6759018]Has anyone seen her? Immediately asking for my Snapchat and my number which is a red flag for me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d9594bba-e05e-4471-9757-7894a10eb859[/URL][/QUOTE]I agree with you. Either she is too new or overly eager. Considering that this seems to be new to her I would proceed cautiously.

[QUOTE=Jm1312;6759127]I agree with you. Either she is too new or overly eager. Considering that this seems to be new to her I would proceed cautiously.[/QUOTE]I replied and said I don't use snap and I don't just give my number out and we can just chat on here. She then blocked me so yea a scam account.

[QUOTE=FireMan32;6759018]Has anyone seen her? Immediately asking for my Snapchat and my number which is a red flag for me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d9594bba-e05e-4471-9757-7894a10eb859[/URL][/QUOTE]That is kissa sins porn star.

Anyone seen her? Comms were ok and is ready to meet and seems DTF. Going to post in GSO forums as well.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e00eadd0-3dfe-4bec-950c-e48a0778a67f[/URL]

[QUOTE=Falconwings33;6759938]Anyone seen her? Comms were ok and is ready to meet and seems DTF. Going to post in GSO forums as well.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e00eadd0-3dfe-4bec-950c-e48a0778a67f[/URL][/QUOTE]Met her, she's real but didn't get past the meet and greet because we made plans and she just never showed up. Texted days later and said she forgot. Social media suggests she's a stripper and travels often for it.

Love some of the recent posts sharing some of the girls people have seen over the past 5 years or so. We need a hall of fame or all star team. LOL.

BTW gents, all this talk of crazy chicks claiming to be pregnant, reminds me: why'all should get snipped if you can. I highly recommend Wakemed Urology, great doc and service.

[URL]https://www.wakemed.org/wakemed-physician-practices/specialties/urology/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MmceStep;6758700] She got really mad at me because she said "why can you be with so many women and I can't be with as many men, just because I'm a woman?" I said that I've noticed that with women, every relationship they have seems to take something from them. They give the next guy all the angst that they wanted to give to the last guy. That didn't go over well. I think this is really why older men want to settle down with younger women or at least less experienced women.[/QUOTE]I would have just said "because as males, we don't get random bodily fluids squirted in us by people whom we don't know their last names, we don't run the risk of our twixt-the-legs fun parts smelling like a neglected dumpster behind a seafood restaurant that hasn't paid their city taxes or trash pickup bill".

Some of us SDs are gentleman, and usually just spray their face with goo so as to not leave a future mess for others, but not everyone is guaranteed to be as polite.

This is a great point. Lots of great discussion here recently about how crazy these SB's can be. Get a fucking vasectomy. I can't imagine the fear I'd have in getting one of these girls pregnant. It's also an asset. Most of these young 20's girls worst fears are not STI's from us, it's getting knocked up. Many times, once I've disclosed I'm snipped they're 100% in for anything.

[QUOTE=MmceStep;6758700]I've had 5 regular girlfriends that resulted from Sugar relationships. Every one of them turned out to be crazy, vindictive, and self destructive. I've given a lot of thought to why that is. The first thing I've decided is that once a woman sells it, she thinks it's always a transaction. Once a guy pays big bucks for it, it's always worth big bucks, every time. In regular relationships sometimes the woman wants it more than you do and it's just give and take. But, when you're in a relationship with one of these sugar girls, they're always mentally keeping score. It's all about cash value. So, when you think you're just 'having sex' with your girlfriend, she's thinking "I'm fucking him for free so that he marries me / lets me move in / takes care of me etc. " As soon as you decide it's not working and want to move on, they absolutely lose their shit. They act like you robbed a bank or something. They don't think about all the trips you took them on and all the money you spent. All they think is "I gave him extra! The other thing that I think about is what someone else said. The more guys these women are exposed to, the nuttier they get. I made the mistake of saying this to a woman that I've had on again / off again stuff for 12 years with. She got really mad at me because she said "why can you be with so many women and I can't be with as many men, just because I'm a woman?" I said that I've noticed that with women, every relationship they have seems to take something from them. They give the next guy all the angst that they wanted to give to the last guy. That didn't go over well. I think this is really why older men want to settle down with younger women or at least less experienced women.[/QUOTE]Wow, not been my experience at all. I Have someone I met on SA that's been living with me for years. We have a very open relationship where if she wanted to see someone else she could and she knows I see other people occasionally. We've been thinking of adding another woman to our duo and she is all about it. We couldn't be happier.

[QUOTE=GregG73;6762230]Wow, not been my experience at all. I Have someone I met on SA that's been living with me for years. We have a very open relationship where if she wanted to see someone else she could and she knows I see other people occasionally. We've been thinking of adding another woman to our duo and she is all about it. We couldn't be happier.[/QUOTE]Is the the sb you're living with still on SA?