General Reports

[QUOTE=Dolato;2354809]Sapp wasn't taken down in a sting. The story is that there was a noise complaint and a LEO doing security at the hotel showed up to find Sapp and 2 ladies at the room. The 2 working gals claimed Sapp assaulted them and it came out that they were prostitutes. To make it worse when Sapp got taken in for questioning, he admitted the girls were hookers.

So the key takeaways here for everyone is: avoid drama with the hookers. Fuck them, Pay them, Leave them. And if anything happens, know how to handle questions from the l. E.[/QUOTE]Not surprising if in fact Warren Sapp assaulted these woman, he is a world class douche bag and the NFL network was probably happy to finally have a reason to fire him. Prostitution should be legal but assault is another story and I hope he gets what he deserves.

Just for the record, 85% of convictions are because people opened their fucking mouth to LE.

Keep mouth SHUT. It never EVER helps you to talk. The system will NOT go easier on you. EVER.

[QUOTE=CreamyBare;2355639]Just for the record, 85% of convictions are because people opened their fucking mouth to LE.

Keep mouth SHUT. It never EVER helps you to talk. The system will NOT go easier on you. EVER.[/QUOTE]He could / would have had some good lawyers working for him to get him off (in the other sense then the hookers) if he kept his mouth shut.

I could see him getting the prostitution charge off and maybe settle out of court for the assault issue and walking away with just bad press, but now he's got an uphill battle to fight.

The non LEO perils of mongering.

We have all discussed the perils of mongering as it pertains to LEO. Some of these perils also apply to non pros and pros we repeat with. Recently-within a week span of time-despite being well treated and at times overpaid my entire stable of providers has bailed. It was surprising at first but given thought it is not surprising at all. But losing an entire stable of providers in a week is just one of the pitfalls of this hobby.

1. The Relationships.

I have lost not one but two girlfriends because of my mongering. And yes despite using burner phones, fake apps, always buying condoms just before the act and disposing of them right afterwards (guys if you are in a relationship never keep condoms. But the pack of 3, use what you need, and throw away the rest. Don't keep them.) women always seem to be snooping. I actually had one pay some Indian guy online to hack my monger email once years ago. Given that I will never stop mongering the loss of my gf's I hate to say is part of the chance you take. Oh well.

2. The disappeared provider.

Some providers you see for weeks at a time. You even might fix their door in the house or have a Starbucks together. All is fine. And then poof! They disappear. Phone disconnected, emails either not responded to or email account is deleted. Given we all know a P4 P situation can't last forever after having such a good business relationship you wonder why these women disappear. The human in us makes us wonder-did she find more business, is she hurt / injured etc. I learned that after two emails and two calls I no longer try again and never respond if they ever reach out again.

3. The Never contact me again.

Non Pros are famous for this. One day, out of the blue, you get an email or sms saying "please never contact me again". This is despite all the extra things you did that you shouldn't have done for the non pro and all the the extra money you would give sometimes. Now most of the time these non pros suddenly get a bf or find a job and thus you are not needed anymore. What I always find funny is when you check their Facebook or Instagram you find out the real story. They now have a husband or something. The non pros are always the hardest to swallow because you do generate a relationship with the person. I had a UCLA girl that did that after I lent her $200 bucks. And that angered me because clearly she used me and I saw on her Instagram she went out the night before with her new boyfriend (with my money). So stupid girl that she is I found her mom in Facebook and forwarded her all of her daughters slutty emails. Wrong yes I know but her actions were uncalled for.

4. Diseases.

A part of this hobby rarely discussed. After seeing a video about herpes I no longer even get BBBJ anymore. One provider I saw recently in Long Beach had some seriously suspect healing sores down there. I simply packed up and left. I even know where boxers when getting FS to avoid as little skin to skin contact as possible. Sounds extreme I know but take the time to see a video about herpes and the LIFELONG horror it brings. You will be the same.

With that said if any of you guys have a provider or two to share this week pass it on. As with past instances when I build up my stable again I will be happy to share.

Now if I can find ANY provider at all or especially a pregnant one.

Dinnerout.

[QUOTE=DinnerOut35;2356884]. I had a UCLA girl that did that after I lent her $200 bucks. And that angered me because clearly she used me and I saw on her Instagram she went out the night before with her new boyfriend (with my money). So stupid girl that she is I found her mom in Facebook and forwarded her all of her daughters slutty emails. Wrong yes I know but her actions were uncalled for.
[/QUOTE]That was pretty fucked up dude. If life, whenever you give a "loan", especially to a ho, never expect to get it back.

No wonder you can't maintain relationships.

[QUOTE=Chazm69;2357562]That was pretty fucked up dude. If life, whenever you give a "loan", especially to a ho, never expect to get it back.

No wonder you can't maintain relationships.[/QUOTE]I try not to judge in this line of hobby, but somebody in one of the boards mentioned the golden rule when dealing with nps that you should do no harm.

I agree that in all parts of life I don't loan anything that I can't live without. Especially someone fucking me specifically for the cash.

[QUOTE=Dolato;2357765]I try not to judge in this line of hobby, but somebody in one of the boards mentioned the golden rule when dealing with nps that you should do no harm.

I agree that in all parts of life I don't loan anything that I can't live without. Especially someone fucking me specifically for the cash.[/QUOTE]If it's only their life they're affecting, fine, no judgement. I hear ya but I'm calling this one as I see it. Who knows the amount of damage / ramifications that was inflicted over a couple of bucks.

I guess Karma's going to be kicking someone's ass.

[QUOTE=DinnerOut35;2356884]The non LEO perils of mongering.
I had a UCLA girl that did that after I lent her $200 bucks. And that angered me because clearly she used me and I saw on her Instagram she went out the night before with her new boyfriend (with my money). So stupid girl that she is I found her mom in Facebook and forwarded her all of her daughters slutty emails. Wrong yes I know but her actions were uncalled for.
[/QUOTE]I actually don't see this being wrong in any way as apposed to all you mongers out there. The guy went out of his way to loan out money, doesn't matter who it is, ho or a lawyer. She should have thought twice about jacking someone like that. It's this type of attitude you guys have that turn these women in robs and the ability to walk all over you. They see how easy it is to rob you and get away with it so hey, why not.

[QUOTE=Seephor;2357853]I actually don't see this being wrong in any way as apposed to all you mongers out there. The guy went out of his way to loan out money, doesn't matter who it is, ho or a lawyer. She should have thought twice about jacking someone like that. It's this type of attitude you guys have that turn these women in robs and the ability to walk all over you. They see how easy it is to rob you and get away with it so hey, why not.[/QUOTE]No. Lending money in the first place is what makes you weak. These girls are attracted to thugs and you aint nuthin (because you payin 4 pussy.) you will never be anything but a trick and they going to milk you for everything they can. You will be better off keepin it bizness and treat them like dirt.

[QUOTE=DinnerOut35;2356884]The non LEO perils of mongering.

We have all discussed the perils of mongering as it pertains to LEO. Some of these perils also apply to non pros and pros we repeat with. Recently-within a week span of time-despite being well treated and at times overpaid my entire stable of providers has bailed. It was surprising at first but given thought it is not surprising at all. But losing an entire stable of providers in a week is just one of the pitfalls of this hobby.

1. The Relationships.

I have lost not one but two girlfriends because of my mongering. And yes despite using burner phones, fake apps, always buying condoms just before the act and disposing of them right afterwards (guys if you are in a relationship never keep condoms. But the pack of 3, use what you need, and throw away the rest. Don't keep them.) women always seem to be snooping. I actually had one pay some Indian guy online to hack my monger email once years ago. Given that I will never stop mongering the loss of my gf's I hate to say is part of the chance you take. Oh well.

2. The disappeared provider.

Some providers you see for weeks at a time. You even might fix their door in the house or have a Starbucks together. All is fine. And then poof! They disappear. Phone disconnected, emails either not responded to or email account is deleted. Given we all know a P4 P situation can't last forever after having such a good business relationship you wonder why these women disappear. The human in us makes us wonder-did she find more business, is she hurt / injured etc. I learned that after two emails and two calls I no longer try again and never respond if they ever reach out again.

3. The Never contact me again.

Non Pros are famous for this. One day, out of the blue, you get an email or sms saying "please never contact me again". This is despite all the extra things you did that you shouldn't have done for the non pro and all the the extra money you would give sometimes. Now most of the time these non pros suddenly get a bf or find a job and thus you are not needed anymore. What I always find funny is when you check their Facebook or Instagram you find out the real story. They now have a husband or something. The non pros are always the hardest to swallow because you do generate a relationship with the person. I had a UCLA girl that did that after I lent her $200 bucks. And that angered me because clearly she used me and I saw on her Instagram she went out the night before with her new boyfriend (with my money). So stupid girl that she is I found her mom in Facebook and forwarded her all of her daughters slutty emails. Wrong yes I know but her actions were uncalled for.

4. Diseases.

A part of this hobby rarely discussed. After seeing a video about herpes I no longer even get BBBJ anymore. One provider I saw recently in Long Beach had some seriously suspect healing sores down there. I simply packed up and left. I even know where boxers when getting FS to avoid as little skin to skin contact as possible. Sounds extreme I know but take the time to see a video about herpes and the LIFELONG horror it brings. You will be the same.

With that said if any of you guys have a provider or two to share this week pass it on. As with past instances when I build up my stable again I will be happy to share.

Now if I can find ANY provider at all or especially a pregnant one.

Dinnerout.[/QUOTE]Man. I'd love to see who th is you CLA gal is. Any way for me to see how she looks?

I've heard of gAls doing this rip off shit getting stood up lots. They play gAmes and so do guys.

[QUOTE=PoonHound;2357944]No. Lending money in the first place is what makes you weak. These girls are attracted to thugs and you aint nuthin (because you payin 4 pussy.) you will never be anything but a trick and they going to milk you for everything they can. You will be better off keepin it bizness and treat them like dirt.[/QUOTE]While this might be words to live by, it's too general. I wouldn't lend money to any girl, but that doesn't mean you have to treat her like and object rather than a person. Each situation is different and a wise man plays it accordingly.

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2358785]While this might be words to live by, it's too general. I wouldn't lend money to any girl, but that doesn't mean you have to treat her like and object rather than a person. Each situation is different and a wise man plays it accordingly.[/QUOTE]I don't know of any working girls that provide loans?

If you know of a young, busty working girl that will let me bone her on Monday but wait until Friday for payment please let me know.

If you want to get laid get a hooker. On the street, on-line, or where ever. If you want a girlfriend use a dating site or whatever. Hookers don't make good girlfriends. There are exceptions to the rule but not many. I had a friend who spent a lot of money on HX girls looking for girlfriend. I kept trying to explain that they are just taking your money. He was paying for multiple hours, overnighters and wasting his cash. Now he has a girlfriend and is getting married. Treat a hooker like a lady and you will get your moneys worth. That's my 2 cents. I've been doing this since the late 70's. I tried dating a couple of girls form an MP, but they were looking for citizenship not a boyfriend.

[QUOTE=StStephen;2358876]If you want to get laid get a hooker. On the street, on-line, or where ever. If you want a girlfriend use a dating site or whatever. Hookers don't make good girlfriends. There are exceptions to the rule but not many. I had a friend who spent a lot of money on HX girls looking for girlfriend. I kept trying to explain that they are just taking your money. He was paying for multiple hours, overnighters and wasting his cash. Now he has a girlfriend and is getting married. Treat a hooker like a lady and you will get your moneys worth. That's my 2 cents. I've been doing this since the late 70's. I tried dating a couple of girls form an MP, but they were looking for citizenship not a boyfriend.[/QUOTE]These are the best words I've heard in a long time from this board. Some of you guys are looking for girlfriends from these women. I could sort of understand because working girls are probably the only breed of women who don't judge you so you instantly feel comfortable around them, I get it. Even non-pros fall into that category. There are exceptions to the rule like Stephen says but these are few and far between. You could in theory come across a women who has maybe JUST started and you two click in a way and you take her in and support her. I'm not saying it's impossible but there could be a chance there but a working girl who has been doing this for years isn't going to be phased by you in any way. I have seen these women during and after their "work" and have been them enter into a completely different mental state when they're "working". Most have major life issues and are unstable in general. I don't disrespect them for what they do but I see them serving only one purpose in "my" life at least. If you think you can be capt. Save-a-ho then more power to you. I can assure you that you will spend a shit ton of money and probably end up empty handed in the end. You are way better off throwing your money around at bars and clubs if you're looking for a slutty gf.

I eat at a local fast food joint near my work a few times a week. This women and her child always hang around the entrance and asks for assistance for food. I would rate her a 6 as working girl material. Hell I have paid 100+ for women who are worse looking than her in the past. I don't know how much she collects begging all day but I always think to myself if she were to turn ho (which she could easily do), she could make good money. But obviously she isn't. She'd rather hang around the food joint asking for food money. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it takes a special breed of women to be able to ho and generally speaking, these are women you want nothing to do with in your everyday life.

That's my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=StStephen;2358876]If you want to get laid get a hooker. On the street, on-line, or where ever. If you want a girlfriend use a dating site or whatever. Hookers don't make good girlfriends. There are exceptions to the rule but not many. I had a friend who spent a lot of money on HX girls looking for girlfriend. I kept trying to explain that they are just taking your money. He was paying for multiple hours, overnighters and wasting his cash. Now he has a girlfriend and is getting married. Treat a hooker like a lady and you will get your moneys worth. That's my 2 cents. I've been doing this since the late 70's. I tried dating a couple of girls form an MP, but they were looking for citizenship not a boyfriend.[/QUOTE]

Solid advice there.

Further to the citizenship marriage, I think it should pay about $25 K, over and above expenses, so I could be open to that under certain circumstances. But that means she'd need to keep working to produce the payment. Assuming she's paying off the folks who brought her here, and the cost of jumping through immigration hoops, she could be continuing work for a few years.