"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

Priscilla,25-[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b835205a-5a5a-4f06-9ce2-3acde6d3fe32[/URL].

Little backstory, I met her and her sister for lunch. They were claiming to do doubles, (sis is hotter, and they are twins) I was interested, things went ok but they were going out of the country before I'd be free to meet and things happened so never had that bucket list checkmark. She popped back up and I sent her a message she's sporaticly on and she along with a couple of other girls on there travel all the time to music festivals, we finally connect and she's asking for $800 ppm, we all know you never bite at the first offer no matter how much they claim is going to happen. Got her down significantly and set a day to rekindle the relationship from the previous meeting, (minus sis who has landed a whale aparently). First time at 2 am the before we were supposed to meet at 11 am, she claims she had to cancel because she got called into to work, no problem. Rescheduled for this morning same time. Last night around 11:30 she cancels again due to a personal commitment, ok heard this story before, let her know I was disappointed but no problem. The next reply is where she set the bridge on fire with a LEAVE ME ALONE. As you wish, you like wasting peoples time apparently. Number is available if you want to try your luck, I get more ass than a toilet seat already I don't have time for games or bidding wars.

Next we have this beautiful specimen of GPS.

Victoria, 28-[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/96b9b4d8-0d05-4daf-aee2-070cd24c9ac5[/URL].

Messaged her yesterday and she gets back to me today wanting to get together, no pic request mind you. We go to text and after 2-3 messages she says she wants to know if 1 K ppm is doable. LMFAO, it is but not for her. Hit her with the I could do $400 if she hosted and she said her minimum is 1 K. Wished her luck and prosperity. Number available if you think you can swim in that pond.

Then theres the one real one who was my mid day snack Monday on a trip to St. Pete Beach.

Annie-[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5daa344b-2dc4-4502-8bdd-5d9d03ecae71[/URL].

Just great GFE fun, yes she is a pro with an ad on Tryst down there, with an ask of $700. I got her for half that and she got her own Uber to my resort. I highly recommend her if you're going to be in the Tampa-St Pete area. She said she comes thru Atlanta on ocassion, so keep and eye out for that profile pic.

Any luck with this one I'm Buckhead? Hesitant to pull the trigger.

[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;7377948]What are y'all using for reverse image search that's effective? Facecheck dot id was awesome when it was free. I don't think it even works very well now, possible due to legal issues.[/QUOTE]I use Google images for reverse image search. That's not what facecheck.id is though. It is facial recognition search, not reverse image.

I wonder if AI can help to mask some of our pics from the facial recognition. I used lmarena. Ai to change some of my clothing and it sometimes will slightly modify your face as well. I know that Fawkes app can work too.

But I took a casual pic of myself and had it put a suit on me and looks absolutely real, so going to use that with SBs now. And it's free on lmarena although you have to "re-roll" a few times periodically to get the best model to give you the output that works.

I know I've seen some reports about SB gals on here. Looked around the site, saw some interesting ladies and thought I'd give it a try. Purchased the generic VISA from Publix (it always worked for me on SA), and submitted my purchase. Declined. Payment is processed off shore in Dublin, but then SA is off shore also. Told by the processor that my "bank" refused the charge. Several back and forth texts with both Secret Benefits and their processor. Finally said try a new card. I was hesitant but gave it a try. This time a vanilla VISA from Walmart. Same result.

Any advice on next steps. Or is it even worth trying to get on SB, before I go back to SA.

TG.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;7378762]I use Google images for reverse image search. That's not what facecheck.id is though. It is facial recognition search, not reverse image.

I wonder if AI can help to mask some of our pics from the facial recognition. I used lmarena. Ai to change some of my clothing and it sometimes will slightly modify your face as well. I know that Fawkes app can work too.

But I took a casual pic of myself and had it put a suit on me and looks absolutely real, so going to use that with SBs now. And it's free on lmarena although you have to "re-roll" a few times periodically to get the best model to give you the output that works.[/QUOTE]I can tell you from experience that Fawkes does not work anymore. It did originally but the AI's are able to get past that now. If you have something to lose by someone finding out I would find a good AI tool to completely change your face. You can have it keep similar characteristics but if it looks like you facial recognition can find you. I have a set of pictures I use but I wish I could find a tool to reliably recreate the same face each time.

[QUOTE=TallGuy3000;7380383]I know I've seen some reports about SB gals on here. Looked around the site, saw some interesting ladies and thought I'd give it a try. Purchased the generic VISA from Publix (it always worked for me on SA), and submitted my purchase. Declined. Payment is processed off shore in Dublin, but then SA is off shore also. Told by the processor that my "bank" refused the charge. Several back and forth texts with both Secret Benefits and their processor. Finally said try a new card. I was hesitant but gave it a try. This time a vanilla VISA from Walmart. Same result.

Any advice on next steps. Or is it even worth trying to get on SB, before I go back to SA.

TG.[/QUOTE]So unfortunately, it's pretty common for SB to set off alerts for the processor. I don't have a warden so I use my CC and I almost always get a notification from my CC app like "This you? You sure? I don't have any advice about getting around it other than heresey. I remember reading a thread where the OP was having trouble with SA's processor and was recommended a "global enabled" prepaid visa / mastercard gift card. I don't see how it's different than a regular visa / mastercard gift card but it's potentially something to look into.

As for whether Secret Benefits is worth it. I think it's worth it as a complement to SA or SDM, but is generally inferior to the two. I'll give you a good reason to have a free account and a good reason to have credits:

A free account is well worth the minimal sign up effort, simply because of the video verification for ladies. Hilariously, the site doesn't tell the ladies that these are on their profile, so you get to see what they look like sans makeup and filters. Since there's a lot of crossover on the sites, it makes for a valuable research tool. If you're considering an SA lady and can find her on SB, you can see what she really looks like if she's got a verification video up.

I know I just pointed out the abundant crossover on the sugar sites, but Secret Benefits must be doing something different with their marketing because I'll see girls on there that aren't on any other site. They also get a lot of girls who are dipping their toe into the sugar bowl. I'd love to get more data on this, but they're doing something right in terms of marketing. I wouldn't maintain a constant supply of credits, but for me it's well worth it to buy a stash of credits every so often and work my way through SB.

As others have pointed out in previous posts, SB has a lot of zombie profiles and bots that send messages. A good rule of thumb is to only message girls that have actually looked at your profile (the bots will just send you a message but it'll usually be something like 'hey' If you want to get a girls attention, favorite her and share your private pics. If she's real, she'll look at your profile. If she's a bot, it'll just share her private pics without looking at your profile.

[QUOTE=TallGuy3000;7380383]I know I've seen some reports about SB gals on here. Looked around the site, saw some interesting ladies and thought I'd give it a try. Purchased the generic VISA from Publix (it always worked for me on SA), and submitted my purchase. Declined. Payment is processed off shore in Dublin, but then SA is off shore also. Told by the processor that my "bank" refused the charge. Several back and forth texts with both Secret Benefits and their processor. Finally said try a new card. I was hesitant but gave it a try. This time a vanilla VISA from Walmart. Same result.

Any advice on next steps. Or is it even worth trying to get on SB, before I go back to SA.

TG.[/QUOTE]I posted a few days ago that prepaid virtual VISA card from [URL]bitrefill.com[/URL] works. You probably have to pay with crypto though. But I just bought subscription about 10 days ago and it worked, as it had the time before.

It is nice and anonymous too. I met this one girl a few days ago and she started to act weird and kicked me out of her place before we even did anything. So I get a message from her today that I need to send her $$$ or she will go to the police and report me for "being on a website asking for sex". What a psycho, but just a reminder not to give these girls any more personal details than necessary.

Anyway probably an empty threat and looking back at the chat with her, she's the one who started talking about $. So many emotionally unstable girls out there.

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;7380411]I can tell you from experience that Fawkes does not work anymore. It did originally but the AI's are able to get past that now. If you have something to lose by someone finding out I would find a good AI tool to completely change your face. You can have it keep similar characteristics but if it looks like you facial recognition can find you. I have a set of pictures I use but I wish I could find a tool to reliably recreate the same face each time.[/QUOTE]Yeah I figured that may be the case. Well when I was having AI modify my pics, sometimes it did change my face a good bit. Perhaps I should just do that and just find one that doesn't look too transparently AI-fake. It could probably be done, with some patience and re-rolls.

[QUOTE=TallGuy3000;7380383]I know I've seen some reports about SB gals on here. Looked around the site, saw some interesting ladies and thought I'd give it a try. Purchased the generic VISA from Publix (it always worked for me on SA), and submitted my purchase. Declined. Payment is processed off shore in Dublin, but then SA is off shore also. Told by the processor that my "bank" refused the charge. Several back and forth texts with both Secret Benefits and their processor. Finally said try a new card. I was hesitant but gave it a try. This time a vanilla VISA from Walmart. Same result.

Any advice on next steps. Or is it even worth trying to get on SB, before I go back to SA.

TG.[/QUOTE]None of the Visa cards I used to use work anymore on SA and I assume SB is the same. I've had success buying Google play gift cards and paying through the app on Android as well as virtual Amex giftcards purchased from Amex. Another poster has reported success with physical Amex cards as well but I haven't had a chance to try that. One good thing with a credit card vs Google card is that it's easy to spend any leftover amount on a credit card but the google card is useless outside of google.

[QUOTE=TallGuy3000;7380383]I know I've seen some reports about SB gals on here. Looked around the site, saw some interesting ladies and thought I'd give it a try. Purchased the generic VISA from Publix (it always worked for me on SA), and submitted my purchase. Declined. Payment is processed off shore in Dublin, but then SA is off shore also. Told by the processor that my "bank" refused the charge. Several back and forth texts with both Secret Benefits and their processor. Finally said try a new card. I was hesitant but gave it a try. This time a vanilla VISA from Walmart. Same result..[/QUOTE]Apple pay generates a random card number and works for me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9f8cbf00-b11c-9396-01dc-aa1d344c67ee[/URL]

What are these women smoking? Wants $1500 a meet.

Megan.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/10eb8175-9e68-43ee-b3fb-6a28dafc7b0b[/URL]

This girl seems to be as dumb as a box of rocks. I tried to ask her how much to meet and she's like I don't know if I can I got to pay my car payment and daycare by Friday. And I'm like no shit that's why I'm asking how much per meet and that can help with what you need. Her profile says Atlanta but she lives near Columbus. She said she works in Atlanta every now and then. I simply stopped responding.

[QUOTE=MilfHunter818;7381510][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9f8cbf00-b11c-9396-01dc-aa1d344c67ee[/URL]

What are these women smoking? Wants $1500 a meet.

Megan.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/10eb8175-9e68-43ee-b3fb-6a28dafc7b0b[/URL]

This girl seems to be as dumb as a box of rocks. I tried to ask her how much to meet and she's like I don't know if I can I got to pay my car payment and daycare by Friday. And I'm like no shit that's why I'm asking how much per meet and that can help with what you need. Her profile says Atlanta but she lives near Columbus. She said she works in Atlanta every now and then. I simply stopped responding.[/QUOTE]Smoking something. This one wants you to provide for her, her home, her children and her career with boundaries of no touch, intimacy and monogamy. Insane.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a6019b2b-233c-49af-9431-ac4f6d593502[/URL]

Many people misunderstand what Fawkes does. It prevents AIs from forming a facial rec from the photos it can find out on the web. So, all of those of you IRL must be processed through it before getting posted. Even those that are under the control of other people. Definitely tough.

If you run a IRL photo through Fawkes and then see if one of the facial rec sites can match it up, I guarantee they will be able to do it.

My messages have been going crazy for 3 days now and plenty of willing participants with ranges from 300 up to GPS $1000+. My profile is blocked from public view and all of my pics are hidden so I know it's not my profile being highlighted or whatever, the only ones that can see me are the ones I favorite or view. Also, anybody want make a donation to my favorite charity? I got some investigating to do LOL.

[QUOTE=MilfHunter818;7381510][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/10eb8175-9e68-43ee-b3fb-6a28dafc7b0b[/URL]

This girl seems to be as dumb as a box of rocks. I tried to ask her how much to meet and she's like I don't know if I can I got to pay my car payment and daycare by Friday. And I'm like no shit that's why I'm asking how much per meet and that can help with what you need. Her profile says Atlanta but she lives near Columbus. She said she works in Atlanta every now and then. I simply stopped responding.[/QUOTE]This is a pretty standard scam. And the reason she seems to be dumb as a box of rocks is because she is actually a he using stolen pics and he doesn't actually speak English. He's likely managing dozens of accounts at one time and doesn't really have the time to copy and paste all responses into google translate. He looks for certain words or phrases to let him know he has a live one on the hook. His / her hope is if they continue to mention how they don't have enough money to meet you'll eventually offer to send them money for gas. You can safely block and move on.