Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

[QUOTE=GameCock187;5750755]I live in Fort Mill. Where is the paradise area? Never heard of.[/QUOTE]Steele. Off 160.

[QUOTE=BrianPeter;5742954]Saw this one. Asked 300 for 3 hours. I did 200. Sweet girl, but a lot of loose skin from what looks to be a dramatic weight loss. Offers BBBJ, BBFS, creampie. I passed on the latter 2. Will not repeat, maybe just for BBBJ.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/17a512d4-dc5b-43e6-a01a-a14ccff0dc11[/URL][/QUOTE]Where is the loose skin, in the tummy area? Her photos hide it quite well. I will ask for a stomach pic and share but want to make sure I ask the right questions.

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;5742509]She asked for a deposit before meeting. And blocks you when you decline. Possible scammer.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9e062958-004d-4baf-af79-443d4f482055[/URL][/QUOTE]Did the same thing to me today. I called her out on it and on some impossibilities in her profile. She got all pissy and blocked me but she knew she got caught. Must be a lot of dudes falling for these scams or these girls / or whoever they really are wouldn't keep running the same scams.

[QUOTE=AlIngus;5753997]Where is the loose skin, in the tummy area? Her photos hide it quite well. I will ask for a stomach pic and share but want to make sure I ask the right questions.[/QUOTE]Yeah, tummy area and thighs.

Hey, just wanted to update on the SB situation. After ranting about how little response I had vs how many messages I sent, I finally started seeing some results. Turns out, they really don't treat the SB sites like social media, just occasionally for new "dads". They also don't realize we can't see messages unless we are premium so they often get turned off or move on. I now have about 10 to 12 girls, in about 5 different towns mind you, that are willing to meet. Less than half agreed before setting a price and the others are 3 to 5 bills. I still haven't met anyone so they all could be a bust but I think I've determined they are not scammers, but some still may be fake. I'll know more over the next few days and weeks but if any of these girls look like their pics, and I hit paydirt, this will be better than expected. This doesn't even account for the ones that wanted to but couldn't host.

Speaking of, any advise on girls that can't host. I really can't get a hotel as they require I'd and credit card. I've never done Air BNB, anyone ever set up an anonymous ABNB account? I know it's an app tied to your phone but can you work around that like many other aspects while remaining private?

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5754959]Hey, just wanted to update on the SB situation. After ranting about how little response I had vs how many messages I sent, I finally started seeing some results. Turns out, they really don't treat the SB sites like social media, just occasionally for new "dads". They also don't realize we can't see messages unless we are premium so they often get turned off or move on. I now have about 10 to 12 girls, in about 5 different towns mind you, that are willing to meet. Less than half agreed before setting a price and the others are 3 to 5 bills. I still haven't met anyone so they all could be a bust but I think I've determined they are not scammers, but some still may be fake. I'll know more over the next few days and weeks but if any of these girls look like their pics, and I hit paydirt, this will be better than expected. This doesn't even account for the ones that wanted to but couldn't host.

Speaking of, any advise on girls that can't host. I really can't get a hotel as they require I'd and credit card. I've never done Air BNB, anyone ever set up an anonymous ABNB account? I know it's an app tied to your phone but can you work around that like many other aspects while remaining private?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't use AirBnB until I really knew a girl. On a first meet she may get nervous or flaky and just not show. Or she may arrive and let you know there are upgrades. Or just what ever. I typically download hotwire and look for cheap hotels in the area. Meet her for coffee or diner to make sure of things and then once I think things are solid I openly tell her I will get us a room while I do it on hotwire. If you get a airbnb before hand and then it doesn't work out for what ever reason you have lost your money. Plus a cheap room can be had for pretty cheap. I think some hotels are even offering space for business professionals during the day.

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5754959]Hey, just wanted to update on the SB situation. After ranting about how little response I had vs how many messages I sent, I finally started seeing some results. Turns out, they really don't treat the SB sites like social media, just occasionally for new "dads". They also don't realize we can't see messages unless we are premium so they often get turned off or move on. I now have about 10 to 12 girls, in about 5 different towns mind you, that are willing to meet. Less than half agreed before setting a price and the others are 3 to 5 bills. I still haven't met anyone so they all could be a bust but I think I've determined they are not scammers, but some still may be fake. I'll know more over the next few days and weeks but if any of these girls look like their pics, and I hit paydirt, this will be better than expected. This doesn't even account for the ones that wanted to but couldn't host.

Speaking of, any advise on girls that can't host. I really can't get a hotel as they require I'd and credit card. I've never done Air BNB, anyone ever set up an anonymous ABNB account? I know it's an app tied to your phone but can you work around that like many other aspects while remaining private?[/QUOTE]I have always used my Id and CC to get rooms at a hotel. For who are concerned about meeting, I explain To them am checking in with those. That helps remove some of the concerns. The hotel is not at liberty to give your info to anyone unless it's LE.

Thanks for the feedback. I wouldn't try to line up anything until the bird was in the hand but the problem is the paper trail. Thinking out loud, if I download Air BNB to a burner phone, use a gift card to pay, and try to line it up once I'm confident she's locked in, there's little to no identifying info. I've never used ABNB so I don't know if that's even possible. Nor do I know how fast a room could be accessible. I have only tried a few times to rent a hotel just for a hook up and all but once they required drivers license and credit card. BTW, the one time it worked, I wiped the fucking walls down with this 19 y / o hot ass. Now the "business space" sounds intriguing but I got to believe it will still require I. D. And although business travel 4 hours away is no problem, renting rooms, even for business purposes, would raise red flags when I'm 30 minutes away from home / office. I do appreciate any advise however.

[QUOTE=Schandl2;5754977]I wouldn't use AirBnB until I really knew a girl. On a first meet she may get nervous or flaky and just not show. Or she may arrive and let you know there are upgrades. Or just what ever. I typically download hotwire and look for cheap hotels in the area. Meet her for coffee or diner to make sure of things and then once I think things are solid I openly tell her I will get us a room while I do it on hotwire. If you get a airbnb before hand and then it doesn't work out for what ever reason you have lost your money. Plus a cheap room can be had for pretty cheap. I think some hotels are even offering space for business professionals during the day.[/QUOTE]

If only I didn't have to worry about the paperwork on my end. SO could easily see cc charge if personal card and employer would certainly question "local rental" if I was nearby and used company card. So, if it were something very unique or out of the ordinary, I could likely monger-splain it away as the Annual Summit of Honorary Intercourse Conference and no one would even pay attention. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a monger hack I was missing when it came to daytime meet ups with no place to go. And it's something I hope is a problem more often than once a year. But if it's something I'm willing to risk, I'll figure it out or sweep my tracks as best I can.

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;5755579]I have always used my Id and CC to get rooms at a hotel. For who are concerned about meeting, I explain To them am checking in with those. That helps remove some of the concerns. The hotel is not at liberty to give your info to anyone unless it's LE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrianPeter;5742954]Saw this one. Asked 300 for 3 hours. I did 200. Sweet girl, but a lot of loose skin from what looks to be a dramatic weight loss. Offers BBBJ, BBFS, creampie. I passed on the latter 2. Will not repeat, maybe just for BBBJ.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/17a512d4-dc5b-43e6-a01a-a14ccff0dc11[/URL][/QUOTE]Her BBBJ is on point though.

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5755686]If only I didn't have to worry about the paperwork on my end. SO could easily see cc charge if personal card and employer would certainly question "local rental" if I was nearby and used company card. So, if it were something very unique or out of the ordinary, I could likely monger-splain it away as the Annual Summit of Honorary Intercourse Conference and no one would even pay attention. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a monger hack I was missing when it came to daytime meet ups with no place to go. And it's something I hope is a problem more often than once a year. But if it's something I'm willing to risk, I'll figure it out or sweep my tracks as best I can.[/QUOTE]You could always get a cheap room someplace. Someplace that takes cash and you rent by the hour.

In the past, I have booked a room with my card but on check-in tell them I want to pay with cash. They want the card so you can't back or leave without paying for incidentals. Live alone now, so not worried about who sees the charges. Anyone have recent experience checking out with cash?

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5754959]Hey, just wanted to update on the SB situation. After ranting about how little response I had vs how many messages I sent, I finally started seeing some results. Turns out, they really don't treat the SB sites like social media, just occasionally for new "dads". They also don't realize we can't see messages unless we are premium so they often get turned off or move on. I now have about 10 to 12 girls, in about 5 different towns mind you, that are willing to meet. Less than half agreed before setting a price and the others are 3 to 5 bills. I still haven't met anyone so they all could be a bust but I think I've determined they are not scammers, but some still may be fake. I'll know more over the next few days and weeks but if any of these girls look like their pics, and I hit paydirt, this will be better than expected. This doesn't even account for the ones that wanted to but couldn't host.

Speaking of, any advise on girls that can't host. I really can't get a hotel as they require I'd and credit card. I've never done Air BNB, anyone ever set up an anonymous ABNB account? I know it's an app tied to your phone but can you work around that like many other aspects while remaining private?[/QUOTE]

Wants a deposit to secure a 'date' [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ddaf9d29-77ab-4c34-acb3-6d393fdcda80[/URL].

Any info on this sugar baby? She is in multiple locations-charlotte Winston Salem. Couldn't post the link.

[QUOTE=Sledg77;5758385]Wants a deposit to secure a 'date' [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ddaf9d29-77ab-4c34-acb3-6d393fdcda80[/URL].[/QUOTE]I think you're going about this all wrong. These girls, either on SA or STG, who are asking for deposits should be inundated with contacts and all of us should tell them "no fucking way" when they bring up the topic of deposits.

[QUOTE=FiveOfSix;5758782]I think you're going about this all wrong. These girls, either on SA or STG, who are asking for deposits should be inundated with contacts and all of us should tell them "no fucking way" when they bring up the topic of deposits.[/QUOTE]I'm right there with you. Anytime girl brings up deposit I stop them right there and I tell them off. The problem is there are guys out there that will pay it and that wrecks the whole system.

[QUOTE=FiveOfSix;5758782]I think you're going about this all wrong. These girls, either on SA or STG, who are asking for deposits should be inundated with contacts and all of us should tell them "no fucking way" when they bring up the topic of deposits.[/QUOTE]Go for it! I blocked her as soon as deposit was mentioned.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2be1dbfc-705b-412d-86dc-833d2e9bb981[/URL]

More trouble than it's worth. She thinks she's all that, and wants a top $$$ and princess treatment. I tried several times in the past, but always ends up being too complicated. Can't make up her mind if she wants to meet or not. Wanted $600 for a dinner date and whatever else back in the room. Too much back and forth with messages, and can never have a solid answer. I'd suggest move on.

[QUOTE=BrianPeter;5742943]Any info on this one.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/998a02f9-0df8-4537-8e61-c4e50027d496[/URL]

She's in Rock Hill.[/QUOTE]

Fellow Mongers,

I am taking a trip to Charlotte in a week and was doing some recon on your city and came across this total smoke show. Anyone have any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5d48d57d-cef2-49b8-8041-4dc9351e0838[/URL]

She looks TGTBT, but it seems Charlotte has a better selection then Philly. If you are up my way I can return the favor.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5764765]Fellow Mongers,

I am taking a trip to Charlotte in a week and was doing some recon on your city and came across this total smoke show. Anyone have any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5d48d57d-cef2-49b8-8041-4dc9351e0838[/URL]

She looks TGTBT, but it seems Charlotte has a better selection then Philly. If you are up my way I can return the favor.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]I chatted briefly with her and she immediately asked for my number. Big red flag.

[QUOTE=Sledg77;5764774]I chatted briefly with her and she immediately asked for my number. Big red flag.[/QUOTE]I got the same response. Something is definitely off. I passed and blocked.

[QUOTE=Sledg77;5764774]I chatted briefly with her and she immediately asked for my number. Big red flag.[/QUOTE]That's not real. And it's a brand new account. I'd skip it.

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5764765]Fellow Mongers,

I am taking a trip to Charlotte in a week and was doing some recon on your city and came across this total smoke show. Anyone have any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5d48d57d-cef2-49b8-8041-4dc9351e0838[/URL]

She looks TGTBT, but it seems Charlotte has a better selection then Philly. If you are up my way I can return the favor.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]Her profile says Hopewell NC now. Maybe it said Clt before but the scam accounts also move cities a lot to scam different areas. But Hopewell is a tiny town so a girl with such well produced pics wouldn't be in Hopewell. Also, the night spots in her pics def are not Hopewell and they don't even look like Charlotte places to me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ff8e0ef0-4ca7-4e4a-b957-0b4541b21e43[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bono26;5771495][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ff8e0ef0-4ca7-4e4a-b957-0b4541b21e43[/URL][/QUOTE]She contacted me on SA and we texted for a little bit, but she was very pushy and got mad and threated to block me when I did not responded right away. Red flags for me and anyways and was not really interested so I just ignored her.

Seeking has a 25% discount going on for Valentine's.

[QUOTE=Crewzin;5715499]Doesn't look like she has signed in a while, so she is not reading site messages. Could had been just in town for a short stay, or on the site for a quick atm withdraw. Who knows what these chicks game is anymore.[/QUOTE]I got in contact with her again. Found her on IG! Now we chat there and on Snapchat. She lives with her BF and actually when I meet her was at their house and their bed. I'm trying to see her again (she says need money for school) but it's being a couple weeks and we having being able to make our schedules work again. I'll let you guys know what happens next.

What opener do you guys use when messaging a girl on SA?

Any info on this one, would be appreciated.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/23ffc0e5-15f9-4cc8-a33d-7f35008068c9[/URL]

Hey lads,

Got banned from SA. Signed up for SB since I heard some people having some luck there. Anybody willing to share any profiles worth contacting? I'm on a quest for the holy grail: college age petite spinner that will let me bbfscip. I have a 2 UTR that I am willing to exchange for info.

[QUOTE=BenInJoe;5774566]What opener do you guys use when messaging a girl on SA?[/QUOTE]You use the message feature within Seeking.

[QUOTE=BrianPeter;5775171]You use the message feature within Seeking.[/QUOTE]Well, yes. But how do you distinguish between those willing to hook up from those that aren't. I've had some luck getting conversations but I think I'm either being too blunt with some or too nonchalant with others.

I have been kicked off SA several times and rejoined. No more! I'm done!

So every time I reported someone on there as a known escort, scammer or trying to get a deposit before meeting I got booted from the site. I believe SA knows all this is going on and doesn't care even though it violates their own terms. I think they want to have as many accounts of women fake or not scammers or not, escorts and pimps or not because it fools a lot of people to think there are a lot more women on the site then there actually is. Personally, I don't have a problem with escorts being on there as long as it's disclosed. Let's face it, when you think you are meeting a college girl you are less likely to wear cover or have handy then when you know you are meeting an escort with a possibility of demons and various diseases.

Also, I think Sa will kick people off as an excuse to get men to sign up again and make double the money. This used to be such a great site pre 2017 (backpage laws) but now it's very different. So, I tell all friends here, be careful reporting if you want to stay on and be careful because most of the real women on there are pros so have cover ready!

[QUOTE=BenInJoe;5775404]Well, yes. But how do you distinguish between those willing to hook up from those that aren't. I've had some luck getting conversations but I think I'm either being too blunt with some or too nonchalant with others.[/QUOTE]Always tell the girls that you're flexible when it comes to the type of arrangement. Tell them that you don't engage in communication unless there's a chance to video chat. You can video chat on Seeking or Facetime. I prefer Google Duo because you can use a burner number.

[QUOTE=BenInJoe;5774566]What opener do you guys use when messaging a girl on SA?[/QUOTE]I've had a great deal of success on SA. I very rarely send an outgoing message, the women generally write to me first (I have no profile pic, so they are curious).

Occasionally, when I want to see where it goes with the 8,9,10's on there. I am overly polite and gentleman like. It is a differentiator from most of the messages they receive every single day.

I have an opening line that I use on those 8,9,10's that gets a 70% response rate (sorry, I'll never share that secret).

[QUOTE=RyanBB;5776466]I have been kicked off SA several times and rejoined. No more! I'm done!

So every time I reported someone on there as a known escort, scammer or trying to get a deposit before meeting I got booted from the site. I believe SA knows all this is going on and doesn't care even though it violates their own terms. [/QUOTE]Got one of those blast emails from the CEO, Brandon Wade today. Said he was rebranding the site to ' Just Date Up'.

First in was SeekingArrangements, then Seeking, and soon to be Just Date Up (JDU). To me, it looks like he's trying to get away from the public perception of PPM on there, with a wink and a nod of course.

[QUOTE=BenInJoe;5775404]Well, yes. But how do you distinguish between those willing to hook up from those that aren't. I've had some luck getting conversations but I think I'm either being too blunt with some or too nonchalant with others.[/QUOTE]To add-on: I have started probably 100+ conversations over the last week and have gotten around 25-30 numbers or snapchats. I have had two lunches and I have plans with both of them. 2nd one is entirely dtf but is in Boone (I'm west of CLT). The rest are hesitant, have ignored messages, and my absolute favorite person I've met so far blocked me for saying good morning the day after an amazing conversation. Can't say I'll ever understand women.

Will update if anyone in the CLT area works out.

[QUOTE=DriveHard;5776678]Got one of those blast emails from the CEO, Brandon Wade today. Said he was rebranding the site to ' Just Date Up'.

First in was SeekingArrangements, then Seeking, and soon to be Just Date Up (JDU). To me, it looks like he's trying to get away from the public perception of PPM on there, with a wink and a nod of course.[/QUOTE]Looks like they are getting pressure from somewhere. Noticed they dropped the 'A' from their SA logo today.

Dude 99% of men's profiles don't have a profile pic so they just pick yours out of everyone to message first? I don't have a profile pic either and the only ones that message first are the desperate ones that I don't want.

The rest I agree with, being polite and a gentleman is a welcome change and similarly I pretty much always get a response to my messages. Everyone knows why we are on the site but the girls want to feel like they are different and respected. Just play the role needed.

[QUOTE=DriveHard;5776664]I've had a great deal of success on SA. I very rarely send an outgoing message, the women generally write to me first (I have no profile pic, so they are curious).

Occasionally, when I want to see where it goes with the 8,9,10's on there. I am overly polite and gentleman like. It is a differentiator from most of the messages they receive every single day.

I have an opening line that I use on those 8,9,10's that gets a 70% response rate (sorry, I'll never share that secret).[/QUOTE]