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Ended up by the capitol, saw a lot od street folk at night. A woman tried to get my attention but logistics didn't work out. Met a SW by the cbaret down town, found a spot and fuxked old BSW, nice pussy. Kwpt bitchinf and had her walk. After fuckimg her but didn't cum. Shw was bitching too much.
Found the ***** by 14th, also went on colfax, a lot of street folk. Fucked her for a bit then gave her wah, wanted alcohol, walked to where I was at, agreed to fuck to fuck her, fucked her, became weird. Stopped, mixed, 40 ish, sampled pussy and she left since she wanted some money or drink and her story became confusing. I put her out. Worked out no minimal exchanged.
Drive by Saturday night, when I first arrived 1st thing I see is a car that got pulled over by 2 cops and right down the street are some SW watching.
Found what I guess people are calling "out of towners" LOL 3 of them, pretty hot and they definitely dress the part and seem to only talk business through the window which is kinda sketch cause I was yelling across the street to talk to them, I yelled 60 and one of them gave me a mean face and walked away LOL I might give in if I see them again but not sure how much $$ maybe 100 or 120 but idk. So the search continued. Found 2 "locals" they were dressed way too normal LOL 1st white girl didn't get my attention too much, 2nd black girl probably late 40's not skinny and not fat, maybe mom bod and asked if I wanted to hang out and got in the car. Didn't get her name as it was straight business. Big tits and nice ass. BBBJ $40, she got me in the heat and offered CIM for extra 20 so total $60, would have let me fuck for $80 but no condom.
I'm young in life and to this hobby LOL so any advice would be helpful. Also yall take any precautions going bb or yall ever caught anything?? Feel free to PM.
[QUOTE=NotReallyHim;7342896]Drive by Saturday night, when I first arrived 1st thing I see is a car that got pulled over by 2 cops and right down the street are some SW watching.
Found what I guess people are calling "out of towners" LOL 3 of them, pretty hot and they definitely dress the part and seem to only talk business through the window which is kinda sketch cause I was yelling across the street to talk to them, I yelled 60 and one of them gave me a mean face and walked away LOL I might give in if I see them again but not sure how much $$ maybe 100 or 120 but idk. So the search continued. Found 2 "locals" they were dressed way too normal LOL 1st white girl didn't get my attention too much, 2nd black girl probably late 40's not skinny and not fat, maybe mom bod and asked if I wanted to hang out and got in the car. Didn't get her name as it was straight business. Big tits and nice ass. BBBJ $40, she got me in the heat and offered CIM for extra 20 so total $60, would have let me fuck for $80 but no condom.
I'm young in life and to this hobby LOL so any advice would be helpful. Also yall take any precautions going bb or yall ever caught anything?? Feel free to PM.[/QUOTE]I cut my teeth on Colfax back in 1982, I was 18. One of the 1st girls I picked up went to my high school just outside of Denver. We had even hooked up a couple times, it was kind of strange giving her $20 for something I had already had for free a few years earlier. I played the hobby off and on, mostly on for forty years and had some great encounters. I also had a couple not so great ones, but they were always ones were I was thinking with my dick and not my mind. I wasn't paying attention and in a hurry and would miss obvious red flags. First piece of advice don't talk to anyone through the window, you're asking to get busted, always offer a ride if they say no it's their loss, not yours, keep that attitude and you shouldn't get caught up in a sting. Times have changed and its becoming harder to trust people, especially those working the streets for a living. I haven't been out in years and have no desire given the prices some of these chicks are asking for on the street. Additionally, the idea of BB in todays world is risky behavior, spend an hour or two looking at recent mugshot of guys who were dumb enough to get caught soliciting, I imagine you won't think about it again.
Check out the list on the "front page" called 22 rules for street mongering, it should give you some guidelines to follow..
Pleasantly surprised around 9 this morning. Several walking, incl the "one-armed blonde" I keep missing. Today she didn't seem lucid enough for a good date, so passed after spending way too much time, gas, & effort on her. Another crack skinny tripping brunette I eventually passed for similar reasons. I'm getting to old for the drama which usually comes from drug schizophrenia! I first passed on ugly, big-titted Lisa, but was out of time & her face doesn't really show buried in my lap. Pleasant, easy to work with, no haggling, & REALLY got off having her kitty rubbed. Great, fun boobs, decent / average mic skills, no drama, good value, happy camper! Just "heads up" she is NOT a "looker!
HH, SS,
-SH.
God, I HATE having to cop to being stupid! Almost EVERY time I break my rules I pay for it & am sorry: You've seen me rail on and on about the multiple reasons NOT to pay first. So I (almost) NEVER do, except. I got taken by cash & dash by a heavy set blonde on WFax. There were some extenuating circumstances which made me stupidly think it was less risky, and I actually THINK she didn't plan to dash & was going to do the date then, after starting, changed her mind and ran. As I alluded to earlier, there are more reasons than just losing some money NOT to pay first. I just HATE it when I break my own rules. Damn! It's not really the relatively small amount of money, it's the principle!!
Hope someone else learns from my being stupid!
HH, SS,
-SH.
[QUOTE=TheSwampHawk;7349750]God, I HATE having to cop to being stupid! Almost EVERY time I break my rules I pay for it & am sorry: You've seen me rail on and on about the multiple reasons NOT to pay first. So I (almost) NEVER do, except. I got taken by cash & dash by a heavy set blonde on WFax. There were some extenuating circumstances which made me stupidly think it was less risky, and I actually THINK she didn't plan to dash & was going to do the date then, after starting, changed her mind and ran. As I alluded to earlier, there are more reasons than just losing some money NOT to pay first. I just HATE it when I break my own rules. Damn! It's not really the relatively small amount of money, it's the principle!!
Hope someone else learns from my being stupid!
HH, SS,
-SH.[/QUOTE]It happens to everyone, just a judgement call. Like you said if we don't rush, stay cool and just remember its their loss. Yet I know how hard it is at times when you're so close to taking the prize. Better luck next time. Fan of your last few posta, not enough people give honest accounts of their wins and defeats.
[QUOTE=Plzd269;7344138]I cut my teeth on Colfax back in 1982, I was 18. One of the 1st girls I picked up went to my high school just outside of Denver. We had even hooked up a couple times, it was kind of strange giving her $20 for something I had already had for free a few years earlier. I played the hobby off and on, mostly on for forty years and had some great encounters. I also had a couple not so great ones, but they were always ones were I was thinking with my dick and not my mind. I wasn't paying attention and in a hurry and would miss obvious red flags. First piece of advice don't talk to anyone through the window, you're asking to get busted, always offer a ride if they say no it's their loss, not yours, keep that attitude and you shouldn't get caught up in a sting. Times have changed and its becoming harder to trust people, especially those working the streets for a living. I haven't been out in years and have no desire given the prices some of these chicks are asking for on the street. Additionally, the idea of BB in todays world is risky behavior, spend an hour or two looking at recent mugshot of guys who were dumb enough to get caught soliciting, I imagine you won't think about it again.
Check out the list on the "front page" called 22 rules for street mongering, it should give you some guidelines to follow..[/QUOTE]You can't get convicted if you haven't said anything illegal. They won't arrest you either, unless you negotiate. I always talk with them through the window to get a feel of their personality, because once a hooker is in your car, it's a dangerous situation. These are career criminals who have nothing to lose. I advise keeping your doors locked and your front passenger's window half-way up so it's more difficult for them to reach in and unlock it. I sometimes ask, "Are you nice?" The real bad dates have difficulty choking out an affirmative answer to that question.
Body Shopper.
[QUOTE=PoonWrangler84;7350820]It happens to everyone, just a judgement call. Like you said if we don't rush, stay cool and just remember its their loss. Yet I know how hard it is at times when you're so close to taking the prize. Better luck next time. Fan of your last few posta, not enough people give honest accounts of their wins and defeats.[/QUOTE]Yeah, over time, the number of times I've been "taken" amortized over the total number of encounters prolly adds less than $1. 00 to my average cost per date. I'm fine with the dollar cost.
The bigger issue, for me, is that it "normalizes" (for them) the practice of demanding money before the service and de-incentivizes good service. I expect argument; but I'm convinced it really does. If we actually got our act together and quit being stupid, it would die out, and they would quit thinking it was SOP and acceptable. Similarly, I (usually) negotiate a lower price agreement and then tip (generously) for good service. It seems like good business AND, given the poor average quality of the service / dates in this area, anything that incentivizes "upping their game" seems like a good thing to try.
So, yet again, (even if annoyingly! I try to NOT tell other people what they "should" do; but I believe we'd all be better off if all of us exercised 1) pricing discipline, and 2) payment AFTER services rendered. As PW points out, this CAN be difficult and we WILL potentially miss out every once in a while; but overall we'll be better off.
Just my $. 02.
HH, SS,
-SW.
Had an escort ghost me late on a Thursday evening, so decided to check out E Fax. Lots of SWs. Highest concentration was between Quebec and Yosemite on both sides of Colfax. Then a few peppered between Yosemite and Dayton. Also, lots of cars aggressively going after the SWs. Higher traffic than usual. Didn't bother with the best looking SWs that were dressed up. From prior reports here, assumed they were going to be asking for high donations.
The issue I ran into was when I approached a SW to ask if they wanted a ride, every single one gave me a weird look and then said no. This has worked in the past, but for some reason, I felt like that question scares them off now. I even dropped my standards to ask SWs I normally wouldn't approach and they had the same reaction. What's the deal? Anyone else experiencing this?
[QUOTE=MrPeanut;7358729]Had an escort ghost me late on a Thursday evening, so decided to check out E Fax. Lots of SWs. Highest concentration was between Quebec and Yosemite on both sides of Colfax. Then a few peppered between Yosemite and Dayton. Also, lots of cars aggressively going after the SWs. Higher traffic than usual. Didn't bother with the best looking SWs that were dressed up. From prior reports here, assumed they were going to be asking for high donations.
The issue I ran into was when I approached a SW to ask if they wanted a ride, every single one gave me a weird look and then said no. This has worked in the past, but for some reason, I felt like that question scares them off now. I even dropped my standards to ask SWs I normally wouldn't approach and they had the same reaction. What's the deal? Anyone else experiencing this?[/QUOTE]That's been my "go to" approach for over 20 years, all over the country. Worked fine two weeks ago on WFax. Wonder if it's something else that scared them off that you didn't notice? They get LOTS of strange (to me) ideas in their drug heads.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks,
HH, SS,
-SH.
On my run a few weeks back I did encounter some similar reactions, all of them which I'm calling "out of towners" that definitely dress the part. When I would ask if they wanted a ride some would look back and ask "a ride?" And respond "you looking for a date?" And start negotiation through the window if I said yes, overpriced of course. 1 girl straight didn't even look at me and said "I'm working" and kept walking. Another even said "no I don't need a ride, you looking for a date" all of them with this attitude that just didn’t set well with me, like stuck up and surprised or weird look, all near the yellow Mexican restaurant on E fax.
Most of my successful runs have been by asking "do you want a ride?" And they usually say yes and get in, those have been with "locals" LOL.
[QUOTE=NotReallyHim;7365200]On my run a few weeks back I did encounter some similar reactions, all of them which I'm calling "out of towners" that definitely dress the part. When I would ask if they wanted a ride some would look back and ask "a ride?" And respond "you looking for a date?" And start negotiation through the window if I said yes, overpriced of course. 1 girl straight didn't even look at me and said "I'm working" and kept walking. Another even said "no I don't need a ride, you looking for a date" all of them with this attitude that just didnt set well with me, like stuck up and surprised or weird look, all near the yellow Mexican restaurant on E fax.
Most of my successful runs have been by asking "do you want a ride?" And they usually say yes and get in, those have been with "locals" LOL.[/QUOTE]FWIW, here's one guy's opinion: If they don't respond promptly and positively to "Do you need a ride? It's a red (or at least yellow) flag that, for any number of reasons, this date / provider has a good chance of going awry. Is it 100%? Of course not; but, among other things, attitude is one of the most important criteria for a good date for ME. I don't expect to be the majority opinion on this here; but it's worked well (and sometimes protected) for me and I intend on continuing to use it exclusively. Glad to consider other suggestions or anecdotes.
FWIW, just my $.02,
HH, SS,
-SH.
OK, just spent WAY too much time, gas, & effort checking out the latest on Wfax. (For the record, did a lap or two on Efax & one on EEfax, but nothing of substance to report other than the former did have some providers and the latter-as usual-did not.) Wfax is STILL unpredictable. Just because I had the best Wfax success I've ever had, don't expect it and be surprised if you visit and come up empty-handed. I had a LOT of zero-target laps. A LOT!
Traffic flow, both during and after construction is going to change laps a LOT. But I'll explore that in a different post.
Had two quite satisfying dates in 10 hours, with Yvonne, a heavy (but not gross / fat) brunette Latina. Big tits with great nipples she liked played with. Attitude and handplay are important to me, and she scored well on both counts, mic skills were above average with lots of checking in about "how she was doing", do you want balls sucked, how I liked it, etc. Open menu, including Greek and admits to enjoying FIA. Overall, for my tastes (YMMV) a way above average date for the Fax. Found her after midnight (I NEVER get to hunt at night!) near the Kendall bus stop. Hope to repeat soon.
Yvonne will demand (not sure how much she'll negotiate) a bit more than "street price", but to upcharge seems (to me) small in view of the plusses (and how poor street quality / service is. This may sound hypocritical to those who've heard my rants on the importance of "price discipline. " Here's the distinction (to me, YMMV): It's kind of like a tip, AS LONG AS they are clear that it's about above average service, and NOT just the "going rate", it doesn't exert as much upward price pressure and GPS. I NORMALLY pay a low price and then tip generously if it's actually worth it. But they need to KNOW the difference is "baseline. " I expect to hear dissent about this. But overpaying base price does us all a disservice.
Kari / Kerry / Is a tall, blonde / red, HWP (pretty rare, huh? Heavy makeup, bright red lipstick (to help distinguish her), busty white gal of whom I was initially skeptical, mostly because of a quite "businesslike" demeanor. Then, I broke another of my rules (I'm not too smart, sometimes!) Just because I got away with it, doesn't mean I encourage it. I agreed to a location she recommended. To be fair, it was a recc. & she was willing to go somewhere else, which in uncharacteristic of a setup. Going to their location is, IMO, pretty risky. I was on high-alert & well-prepared, still. Worked out fine. Don't be dumb, like me. She readily agreed to compromise on her "pay me first" and my "I NEVER break that rule. " I think her comment was "I'm all about running a business & getting our jobs done!" Anyway, her attitude softened, she got right to work, welcomed my handplay, she acquiesced to a favor on the way back, and I had a quite enjoyable experience. Found her walking W on the and side of Fax, picked her up on Harlan, & dropped her off at the Weekly Inn / Denver West complex with the homeless encampment on Reed. Hope to repeat this next week.
Panda (I didn't ask, but will!) is pretty different & not sure she'll last on the Fax. Tall, thin, very attractive (with makeup-she wore none- and a bit happier, she'd be killer! Quiet, mousy, tentative / hesitant, almost submissive long-haired blonde. B chest with responsive Wants to see everything cleaned before contact, repeatedly asks you to "be gentle" (and agreed I was), but warmed up well with some pussy play. Good skills, good dates (twice), and will repeat. Also found around the Kendall bus stop.
Hope there's something useful here.
HH, SS,
-SH.
I haven't snagged anything on Efax for a long time (or anywhere else for that matter). I have occasionally made a few laps on random (usually) weekdays. And typically don't see much. Seems like there's always at least one or two prospects, but sometimes you can't be completely sure if they are wearing more civilian attire. Usually nothing enticing enough to try a scoop for sure.
Fast forward to this afternoon (Sunday): I was in the general area and decided to detour and make a couple passes. 4-4:30 Sunday, nothing out, zero, zilch. I had an errand to run a few miles away, so went and did that and decided to swing through again on the way back by. It was now about 6:30 or so.
About Syracuse, there were a couple hanging out together, looked like a heavier black chick and a big butt / big boob Latina. Not interested in either, kept moving. Then it must have been on Rosemary or Roslyn where there was a not too bad looking darker skinned Latina / maybe Dominican-ish with not much on (maybe a leopard print short skirt with nothing underneath), twerking in the middle of the street for every car that went by. She looked interesting and fun, but a little too obvious. I did buzz her position real quick a couple of times, but Spidey senses said "no".
I wound up coming down Trenton from 13th and a couple of fairly hot black chicks were crossing the street from behind the taco joint. Stopped and chatted them up a little, both were not wearing much, and both were pretty cute, and both whipped out some booobs right away, one set of decent C's and the other fantastic perky A+ to B's. Anyhoo, the typical "you a cop? No, you a cop?" BS and the mutual groping through the window LE check with both of them. A car was coming up behind, so I whipped into the back lot of the Mexican place so we could talk more. This is when they offered $$ apiece for 15 minutes. "Sorry ladies, that's too much, that's an all-night rate and I don't have that kind of scratch on me anyways". "Well, how about $ each for 10 minutes?" I told them they couldn't even get me warmed up in 10 min. A little more light banter which was kind of fun actually- they did have cute personalities and didn't seem to be using anything too heavy. I finally politely left, promising to look them up another time.
So my question, probably rhetorical, is: Who TF is paying these prices, and WTF happened to price discipline? These last two BSWs were hot, and I would happily do $$ 5 for an hour with either of them if they were doing a traditional incall service, but for SW quickies there is no fricking way. SwampHawk must not be reaching enough hobbyists with is teachings. Of course, it could be a supply / demand thing, as the pickings have always been slim lately, at least during the dayshift when I usually can cruise.