"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4116411]It is my experience that millennials and post-millennials just flat out prefer to text rather than talk on the phone. Many of them don't even have or use voice mail. So, if you do get them to talk on the phone, you definitely know they are serious and for real.[/QUOTE]This is even true after you've landed the deal. My current LTSB will occasionally get on the phone with me, for example to work through some logistic that is faster to do in real time. A few times it was because she was on a long car drive. But even then, I notice that the calls almost never go longer than 20 minutes. In fact, they all eerily gravitate to that number: never longer, rarely shorter.

Grey I had a meet setup or I thought for drinks, but she ended up ghosting, Julez I haven't had any contact with yet but she looks way hot and seems willing to travel. [qQUOTE=RVASpider;4115977]I would be interested in hearing what you find out about Grey and Julez. I messaged Grey a few times back and forth but then nothing for a while. Julez is from out of town but comes to Richmond a bunch. She talks a ton about meeting up when she's in Richmond but haven't been able to set something up. I think she ends up finding someone who is willing to pay more to hang out with her than me but I've got plenty of others that I don't pursue her too hard. [ / QUOTE].

Chatting with this girl on SA. She describes herself as submissive. Interested in hearing if any of you have had experiences with submissives. PM me for more details. Thanks.

[QUOTE=BStreet;4118190]Grey I had a meet setup or I thought for drinks, but she ended up ghosting, Julez I haven't had any contact with yet but she looks way hot and seems willing to travel. [qQUOTE=RVASpider;4115977]I would be interested in hearing what you find out about Grey and Julez. I messaged Grey a few times back and forth but then nothing for a while. Julez is from out of town but comes to Richmond a bunch. She talks a ton about meeting up when she's in Richmond but haven't been able to set something up. I think she ends up finding someone who is willing to pay more to hang out with her than me but I've got plenty of others that I don't pursue her too hard. [/QUOTE][ / QUOTE].

Let me know how it goes with Julez. We can't get our schedules to work out but I also wonder if she really comes to Richmond.

There is a very wide range of people that consider themselves submissive. Everything from just wanting somebody to take control to spanking, choking, gagging, pulling hair amd slapping to ball gags, hand-cuffs, restraints, suspension ropes, whips, clamps and chains.

I've found most women on SA to be submissive in some way. Some are curious and want to learn while others are experienced and have specific expectations. Some are submissive only sexually while others go to the slave / master extreme.

Most of the women on SA are pretty tame compared to women on FetLife.

I think you need to get an understanding of what submissive means to them and your ability (and interest) to provide that.

[QUOTE=RappaHannock;4118797]Chatting with this girl on SA. She describes herself as submissive. Interested in hearing if any of you have had experiences with submissives. PM me for more details. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone actually seen this baby? She's been available for quite some time. She responds, I'm just curious if anyone had anymore info. Feel free DM my inbox or just post right here. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/885a31b5-8768-43af-9766-1f1d8401b7d1[/URL].

Usually I like to take my time. A nice dinner with wine. Some flowers. Perhaps a little gift of jewelry. A steamy hot roll in the hay at a nice hotel. Maybe 2 or 3 rolls. Anyone for 4? LOL Most girls appreciate the romanticism of it all and are quite willing to give you any hole you want for as long as you want.

But then there is that day you don't have time for all of that. So you park in a secluded place like a horny teenager and have some good old fashioned car sex. So nice. Especially when she looks like your first grade teacher.

Which is this? The pics speak for themselves. I don't think it was ever this good when I was 16. Some things, like wine, get better with age.

That's amazing, thanks for sharing. Care to share how much that set you back?

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4119127]Usually I like to take my time. A nice dinner with wine. Some flowers. Perhaps a little gift of jewelry. A steamy hot roll in the hay at a nice hotel. Maybe 2 or 3 rolls. Anyone for 4? LOL Most girls appreciate the romanticism of it all and are quite willing to give you any hole you want for as long as you want.

But then there is that day you don't have time for all of that. So you park in a secluded place like a horny teenager and have some good old fashioned car sex. So nice. Especially when she looks like your first grade teacher.

Which is this? The pics speak for themselves. I don't think it was ever this good when I was 16. Some things, like wine, get better with age.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HotHot;4119222]That's amazing, thanks for sharing. Care to share how much that set you back?[/QUOTE]On this occasion: three holes. 2 cups, pics and vids for $ and 1/2. A bargain.

[QUOTE=RappaHannock;4118797]Chatting with this girl on SA. She describes herself as submissive. Interested in hearing if any of you have had experiences with submissives. PM me for more details. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Every single LTSB arrangement I have ever had was with a female who was submissive to some degree. Attitude is everything and submissiveness is primarily what appeals. It is definitely on the opposite side of the spectrum from GPS.

Just thinking more about this subject gets my juices flowing.

I have actually had many SBs that were as submissive as you might hope to expect. None of them were experienced in this when I first met them, but I was more than happy to indulge their curiosities and oblige their further enlightenment. One in particular comes to mind that I enjoyed most deliciously when she was a freshman and sophomore in college. Looking at my catalog of pics and vids of her reminds me vividly how exciting and satisfying that was for me.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4119525]Just thinking more about this subject gets my juices flowing.

I have actually had many SBs that were as submissive as you might hope to expect. None of them were experienced in this when I first met them, but I was more than happy to indulge their curiosity and oblige their enlightenment. One in particular comes to mind that I enjoyed most deliciously when she was a freshman and sophomore in college. Looking at my catalog of pics and vids of her reminds me vividly how exciting and satisfying that was for me.[/QUOTE]She looks like a sweet little subby sub and would definitely get my juices flowing LOL.

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