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[QUOTE=Ocolumbo;1123470]She was "standard and mechanical" and her service was with only $20. 00? You are nothing but a trouble maker that makes it harder for all other customers at all AMPs. You may not go back to PT for awhile? They are going to let you back into PT? You expected empathy from us on this board?[/QUOTE]Can you have one of your friends help you write a paragraph that conveys your thoughts clearly? You lost me after $20.
[QUOTE=Ocolumbo; 1123736]Not available for first-time customer who goes into transaction with premeditated notion to stiff the girls. If you are going to rip somebody off planned before hand by not bringing enough money, don't use "negotiation" as an excuse. You are just cheap and unethical.
Available for negotiation after developing rapport or relationship with girl. You SHOULD get a discount as a repeat customer. Why pay full price as repeat customer when you can see someone new for full price? [/QUOTE]Please! Seek help before your next reply. You communicate your thoughts so poorly you give me a headache. Your killing me! I ask you this one last time to ask for help the next time you write a paragraph.
[QUOTE=Ocolumbo; 1123976]You are even more pathetic than I thought. They would have let you in even if you did not have one dollar for the girls. Because it is based on freaking trust between you and the provider in a service business that is not even freaking legal.
So, what exactly did you give her? $120. 00 total including the one dollar bills or $130. 00 after the one dollar bills and the "pat down"? Does not matter. So you have saved $20. 00 to $30. 00 for yourself. For a nice dinner and drinks? All because of "shitty service," unlike the good old days. And the service was so mechanical and shitty that you apparently had to LIE to her about how much money you had and you had to hide the rest of your money in your socks? And then you tolerated a pat down of your pockets and a lecture? If the service was so far below par, why did you not have the balls to flash the money you would not give her to her face and explain in righteous indignation why she did not deserve the standard rate? That is what a righteously irate customer would have done. Two different types of confrontations. One is up front and honesty could have minimized outrage. The other is duplicitous and guarantees aggravation of outrage.
I know why. You are just cheap. End of story. And your confrontation with her still messed it up for the customers that came after you that saw her. Bad for business, bad for everyone in the AMP business that does not have a right to exist, good old days or now.
That is all I have to say. [/QUOTE]Okay, obviously you don't even know how these places work. Why are you even posting? I'm done with this rookie.
[QUOTE=Ocolumbo; 1123976]You are even more pathetic than I thought. They would have let you in even if you did not have one dollar for the girls. Because it is based on freaking trust between you and the provider in a service business that is not even freaking legal.
So, what exactly did you give her? $120. 00 total including the one dollar bills or $130. 00 after the one dollar bills and the "pat down"? Does not matter. So you have saved $20. 00 to $30. 00 for yourself. For a nice dinner and drinks? All because of "shitty service," unlike the good old days. And the service was so mechanical and shitty that you apparently had to LIE to her about how much money you had and you had to hide the rest of your money in your socks? And then you tolerated a pat down of your pockets and a lecture? If the service was so far below par, why did you not have the balls to flash the money you would not give her to her face and explain in righteous indignation why she did not deserve the standard rate? That is what a righteously irate customer would have done. Two different types of confrontations. One is up front and honesty could have minimized outrage. The other is duplicitous and guarantees aggravation of outrage.
I know why. You are just cheap. End of story. And your confrontation with her still messed it up for the customers that came after you that saw her. Bad for business, bad for everyone in the AMP business that does not have a right to exist, good old days or now.
That is all I have to say. [/QUOTE]He should have just paid her $10, ten dollars plus a creamy facial and made it a Kodak moment to share with the rest of the boys on the forum. And, on his way out dished out high 5's to the fellas coming in after him. Yah, she would have followed him to the urinal in an attempt to belittle him in Korean BUT who cares. There would be a new Korean HO the next day ripe and ready to take $5, five dollars. So, sinara, and tell your Korean sistas to improve they're services, ya ho bag. Braddha B had a rough night with one of them.
[QUOTE=Cosmic Kid;1123906]I hadn't mongered in over four months. Was spending too much kala on AMPs and having mostly unsatisfactory experiences, so I quit. But the need was starting to weigh on me so had to take a chance again. In spite of all the info on this board, I couldn't decide where to go. Anyway I was doing a morning run, and that's problematic with the AMPs. Drove into town, it's about 11:00am, parked at Ala Moana, walked up to Nirvana, my first stop. Ms lets me in the door, no one else seems to be around, nobody on the couch, quiet like a ghost town. I tell ms I want someone sweet who is going to be willing to kiss me, and ms turns around and walks me back to the front door! I wasn't clear if the kind of provider I wanted wasn't there at that particular time, or ever. But ms' manner felt so dismissive that I didn't bother to get clarification, just left. Walked over to Sunshine, rang the bell, twice, no one came to the door. Now I'm starting to walk in circles; what's my best strategy now; where to go? There's Hulas across the street, but never been there and for some reason just walked past. Gravitated back down Keeamoku to Ichiban, got ready ring the bell but found it had been trashed; someone had smashed it! So no Ichiban. Then I decided to walk down Kapiolani to the Ward plex, maybe check RM. But half way there I suddenly got a strong urge to go check out Top Floor, generally older not as pretty providers, but usually in the past I've had nice service there, so turned around and headed up Piikoi to King. The lady who let me in is seriously hot, plus very friendly. She gave me Anna, not a spinner, maybe early 30s, not beautiful but great smile. Decent English, easy to talk to. I was taking my shower and Anna knocks, walks in and scrubs me down. I ended up getting everything I wanted from her, very friendly lady, got the dfk I wanted, got the DATY I'd wanted, had her sitting on my face and grinding away. Anna had very slight cigarette breath but not obnoxiously so. I wanted doggy and she had already slipped on the cover. Sometimes the cover's not a problem for me and sometimes it is. Today it was, so I asked Anna if I could take it off as long as I pulled out before cumming. She said okay. Yes! Not only did this work for me but I was stoked she was willing to trust me. Only thing is, during the act, part of my mind has to be monitoring progress to know when's the last instant I can wait before pulling out. Made it though; nice tight nan, great release. Then I asked Anna if she'd give me a massage, since I didn't think the hour was up. But she acted as if, of course that's the next item on the menu and she had planned to do that anyway. Good massage technique, firm pressure. Getting ready to leave, she's helping me put on my shirt and shoes, and humming and singing. So nice to be with a lady that is so happy, pleasant. Just what the doctor ordered! Bottom line, for my money, I would in a heartbeat take someone like Anna, who looks okay but isn't a spinner, over a provider who is a ten but has rules / attitude. Very sweet session, would repeat, except that Anna's only here for a few more weeks and I can't afford to monger that frequently. She's Korean but lives in Guam and goes back soon. L6. 5 S10 A10 Maybe sometime in these next months, I'll return to Top Floor though, and see if I can do her co-worker, wish I had gotten her name; any of you brothers know? That babe is totally hot. Anna says it's only the two of them working there at Top Floor now.[/QUOTE]Talking about ichiban, someone smashed it trashed the place. You mean it looked like the place got raided, front door glass was broken. Or more like the place got robbed strong arm style. Thanks CK for the info.
I am retracting my post about Sindi. I was thinking of another girl!
Mistakes happen!
[QUOTE=Idusixtyning;1123694]Still available but negotiated with the provider. The MS's at the Ward AMPs have to be the same as the others up front. I think available at GQ for sure.[/QUOTE]GQ went last week Thursday. Mama san said no more half off rate.
[QUOTE=John Ross;1123940]The hottie is Marie, but don't go tomorrow as it is that time of the month for her. Wait until after the weekend.[/QUOTE]Has anyone gotten bb action from marie? I tried awhile ago, but got shut down.
[QUOTE=Bobby Gunn;1124041]He should have just paid her $10, ten dollars plus a creamy facial and made it a Kodak moment to share with the rest of the boys on the forum. And, on his way out dished out high 5's to the fellas coming in after him. Yah, she would have followed him to the urinal in an attempt to belittle him in Korean BUT who cares. There would be a new Korean HO the next day ripe and ready to take $5, five dollars. So, sinara, and tell your Korean sistas to improve they're services, ya ho bag. Braddha B had a rough night with one of them.[/QUOTE]With your attitude about the hos, which I am sure they can smell a mile away, no doubt you will have plenty more rough nights to come. Thank goodness I monger earlier in the day than you do.
[QUOTE=Blade82;1124026]Okay, obviously you don't even know how these places work. Why are you even posting? I'm done with this rookie.[/QUOTE]I am a rookie. I have only mongered at AMPs a couple dozens times, as repeat customer and seeing new girls at different places. I have yet to have a bad experience. Not one. I never go in drunk. I never go in with attitude. And, as in most other aspects of life, you by and large get what you put in and what you deserve.
Not one bad experience. Not even when on a couple of occasions when against better judgment I went on consecutive days and the reservoir was relatively empty. And getting it up was work for me and for her. Or on the flip side the reservoir was relatively empty and I was on viagra and could keep going like the energizer bunny with me not knowing if and when I would come and with her wondering about the same thing. That is work for both of us too. Eventually, even in these less than ideal situations, the girls have been accommodating and I could still get my rocks off. I pay them what they expect and what they deserve and everyone is happy.
I can see how substandard service could happen. A girl with a bad attitude because she is having a bad day. Or a grossly inexperienced provider who does not know what she is doing in sex, let alone commercial sex. A girl who is grossed out by the customer's physical or racial characteristics and does not hide her displeasure and impatience and rudeness.
But I know chances of any of that happening to me would be very slim. Because I go into AMPs sober and giving off positive vibes that I won't treat the girls with disrespect, let alone mistreat them, financially or otherwise. And all the girls pick that up right away. And I always get good service.
[QUOTE=Hentai Man; 1123248]. Yes, you heard correctly, for the uninitiated, you can get laid for a mere $25 in Tijuana!
Most of these girls are not that great looking, but they are plentiful (I counted 30 or 40 last time I was there) and you can usually find at least one cute looking girl. You pay 5 bucks for the hotel room (which they are usually standing in front of) and 20 bucks for the girl. The one catch is that she will always try to upsell you. The 20 bucks usually only includes a CBJ and only missionary. She will usually try to charge extra to take her bra off or to let you do other positions.
It's probably much better to stick with the club girls, but just the idea of a $25 fuck sounded good enough for me to at least try it out.[/QUOTE]I used to monger in Tijuana's Zona Norte a lot. I preferred the fresh off the farm SGs. Always found a young cutie. .20 for 20 minutes or $ for the whole night and a complete GFE. Always negotiated in Spanish before going to the room. Never got an upsell.
[QUOTE=Otis C1; 1123994]K so first of all you are obviously one of her satisfied customers. Cool. Then you mistook $.20 to mean $20. 00. Then in this post you sidestep your little faux paux and still flame Blade because he shorted her. 30 for what he deemed crappy service. Well monger read the abbreviations section of the forum so you won't make this kind of error in reading and replying to posts. Then ask yourself, would you leave a generous tip at say Roy's if the waiter, I don't know, sneezed at your table or farted while taking your order?
Service is rewarded according to the level at which it is given. If you had a great time with the provider you give her what you think she deserves. If she was having an off day and didn't live up to your satisfaction and without apology then that provider is lucky she still got the $.20. Also if he was in the wrong, the Mama will make an effort that that customer will not be allowed to come back and if the provider was wrong she will not have her job for long if said monger would really want to make a stink and inform mama of the lackluster service he got. Lastly not so angry, after all it's nothing personal, we are on this forum for the exchange and sharing of information.
As always be safe out there and happy mongeriing Oh[/QUOTE]Don't know this Cindi at PT. Have seen only Lea and Candy at PT.
I did "sidestep" my faux paux because I expect to pay full price for "standard and mechanical" services that would get my rocks off seeing a provider for the first time. And I expect others to do the same and not cause trouble in an under-the-table commercial transaction in a shady business. I would not pay full price as a repeat customer to any girl, and I would make this clear as a mutually agreed arrangement between the provider and I. And I would not pay more than full price for exceptional service. Reward for good rapport and exceptional service is repeat business, and repeat business from VIP customers would lead to discounts.
Why do I care about confrontations that others have with providers? Because I want AMPs to be around for many years to come so I would have this option of enjoying myself at these places. There is no god given right for AMPs to exist and operate in Honolulu. And how they could do so openly is beyond my understanding. There must be big money somewhere buying political and police protection. Maybe organized crime is involved. I do not know. But I do know we have a new sheriff in town, prosecutor Kaneshiro. He seems to be a hard ass moral crusader with an agenda against prostitution. There is a radical and militant feminist group, Pacific Alliance, that is also out to go after prostitution through the legislature. If you do not believe me, check out their websites. If you don't think I should be concerned, you tell me why.
I want safe and happy mongering for myself and everyone. I want everyone to not take AMPs for granted. I want everyone to think not just about his own fun, but how his behavior may affect safe and happy mongering for everyone else.
I have seen Hana I think she is super hot. Have not seen sindi or Joanne.
If you seen all three can you rate them purely in the looks department.
[QUOTE=Allbust;1124094]Has anyone gotten bb action from marie? I tried awhile ago, but got shut down.[/QUOTE]Yeah, when she was at Nirvana she gave me choice of CBJ or BBBJ.
[QUOTE=RadioHazard; 1124444]I have seen Hana I think she is super hot. Have not seen sindi or Joanne.
If you seen all three can you rate them purely in the looks department. [/QUOTE]RH.
When you say looks do you mean face only to me looks also includes body which I will also discuss in my post.
Face and body JoAnn like I said earlier sets the standard at the AMPs.
They all have lots of make-up and don't want mongers messing up their art work. That's why generally no sloppy dfk.
I told Sindi if I saw her sitting on the couch without seeing her body I would not pick her.
I just saw Hana and her face looks better with her long straight highlighted hair.
JoAnn in my opinion is the only 9 I've seen, although Yuri at 7, face only comes close.
Sindi has a sexy look to her and would rate her an 8.
Hana looks very Korean and would rate her a 7.
Body, all three have banging bodies.
Jo-ann is 5'6" 115lbs bolt on "C" soft with sensitive nipples.
Sindi is 5'4" 110lbs bot on "C" very firm.
Hana is 5'2" 105lbs bolt on "C". Hana has the nicest looking pussy I have ever seen. She definitely takes good care of her assets. Got to go back just to see her pussy again.
All three are lean and mean with very little body fat and small waist (which I love). No jelly bellies for me.
I would rate all three 9 for body. Others may rate them lower because they like more meat and some junk in the trunk.
They also have that pretty girl attitude. Probably because they are looks wise, in the upper tier of the AMP providers.
Just my opinion.
Duce.
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