I have seen many mongers shoot down a Asian spa because the extra's are too pricey or the massager is old. I have more luck or better releases than I can ask for. I have gone to 5 spas that I get extra's for under $1. But I have an alterrior motive as I have a foot fetish. I asked a provider if I could enjoy her feet. She said, "my feet. I wash them" . She had never had this done. So I treated her first, had her to relax. She got horny, enjoyed being treated instead of treating. She kept saying "you so nice, you not mean like the others. What it lead to was BBBJ, and much more physicxal contact. Had one yesterday 30 yr old, 4'8' and never had a tj. To say she liked it was an understatement. All I am saying is you can rub their feet with lotion and it may open a door that will lead you elsewhere. Also tell them they are beautiful. It makes a difference. Treat them nice and they will return the favor in most cases.