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[QUOTE=Fonmyj;6961863]I've seen her a few times. I know what you mean about the standoffish part and experienced that every time I arrived and had to go through her two call system. On one hand, yes she did make it more of a PITA than it needed to be and things weren't working out with app numbers from both sides of things and I almost bailed twice out of frustration. On the other hand, once I got in the door and we started the session, things were good from my perspective. I've also seen plenty of complaints from other trusted sources, just like EH, to believe it's very YMMV with her. I've experienced the ups and downs of scheduling with her but up to this point I have no complaints during the actual fbsm session so you never know. If you're going to try her out, wait until she's running her specials to minimize the chance of regret if she comes across that way.

Finally, I've reached out to her very last minute when other plans have fallen through and she's never responded with an attitude or complained about needing more of a notice like some providers do. If she was able to make it work we did. If not, no big deal.[/QUOTE]I agree with Fonmyj. I've always had great experiences with Mia in session. She may be somewhat guarded, but I've had great connections and conversations during session and her body and massage are top rate. It probably certainly falls into a YMMV situation, but I have positive experiences.

In my opinion, above average cute, very good teasing, not much convo, but I haven't seen her in more than a year.

First visit no nude because of aunt flo.

Second time I ask for daty and nd she says she just used her vibrator and couldn't enjoy another rond so soon.

Next time, she was in a relationship so no extras.

Now she's back. And it's ask her anything. Well I'm asking my Bro's before another attempt.

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[QUOTE=Lion1;6964303]In my opinion, above average cute, very good teasing, not much convo, but I haven't seen her in more than a year.

First visit no nude because of aunt flo.

Second time I ask for daty and nd she says she just used her vibrator and couldn't enjoy another rond so soon.

Next time, she was in a relationship so no extras.

Now she's back. And it's ask her anything. Well I'm asking my Bro's before another attempt.

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[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6964320]Hate to say this but it kinda seems like you're not taking the hint. Those are all fairly standard reasons women give to politely turn down a guy they don't want to hook up with. Personally I'd move on after 3 failed attempts.[/QUOTE]I don't believe she provides extras to anyone. The "ask us anything in person" mentioned in her ad is merely a bait and switch in my option. That said, she's wonderfully sweet, albeit expensive for a standard fbsm. Oh, and while she wouldn't let me touch her kitty, she didn't mind a finger teasing her asshole. Go figure!

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6964320]Hate to say this but it kinda seems like you're not taking the hint. Those are all fairly standard reasons women give to politely turn down a guy they don't want to hook up with. Personally I'd move on after 3 failed attempts.[/QUOTE]She is super liberal has a full Bush under each armpit and her kitty. Wants to see up charge for everything super mechanical her body is super smoking but she's a hard pass. Just like Kiki / Bibi and Latina Alma.

[QUOTE=TacoManVa;6964449]She is super liberal has a full Bush under each armpit and her kitty. Wants to see up charge for everything super mechanical her body is super smoking but she's a hard pass. Just like Kiki / Bibi and Latina Alma.[/QUOTE]I'd add that there's a few more variables to her. If you know her from the beginning in KM and had some fun then there's an above average chance more fun can be had at the Hillcrest office. But she's definitely inconsistent as others have experienced and mentioned. One time she's totally cool with a good finger bang then a day or two later she's cold as ice acting super distant like you never knew each other. Next visit she's nice and sweet so you think it was just a bad day. Next visit when you're looking forward to having some fun and she's got a no for everything even though you literally did it two days ago. I really hate the inconsistency. When you couple that with the premium entry rate for the Hillcrest location, I'd rather share some time with consistent, fun and friendly providers. Hell, I'd rather spend the money prospecting on some new providers. At least then I'm establishing a new connection instead of leaving confused and disappointed with someone I've seen nearly 10 times.

So for most, I'd agree with the advise to pass unless that cash is burning a hole in your pocket.

Has anyone seen this somewhat new provider?

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Haven't seen her but looks intriguing.

Following.

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6967109]Has anyone seen this somewhat new provider?

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I see that Jess (formerly of Sorrento Valley) is coming back from Texas for another tour. I didn't catch up with her the last time she came through a couple of months back. Her post mentions "expanded menu". Years ago when she was in town it was full nude, he and maybe some daty. Anyone have intel on how expanded the menu has become? PM is fine.

[QUOTE=EH09M3;6959271]Luandra has 3 good reviews on T3 are. All reviews describe her smoking body but she speaks no English.[/QUOTE]Thanks you all gents for chiming in on such a short notice. I ended up seeing Luandra for the her last appointment of the day. As others have mentioned, her body is banging and speaks very little English. If you speak Spanish though, she's become pretty proficient in the language so no language barrier there. She's got a super cool personality and is easy to talk to. To me (eye of the beholder) her face was just okay, It looks like she's spent a lot of time in the sun and it's catching up a bit. She also doesn't get nude during the rub down "massage" and doesn't put in the sensuality. Overall it was okay but it was a little far in Escondido to return for more.

[QUOTE=Fonmyj;6965546]I'd add that there's a few more variables to her. If you know her from the beginning in KM and had some fun then there's an above average chance more fun can be had at the Hillcrest office. But she's definitely inconsistent as others have experienced and mentioned. One time she's totally cool with a good finger bang then a day or two later she's cold as ice acting super distant like you never knew each other. Next visit she's nice and sweet so you think it was just a bad day. Next visit when you're looking forward to having some fun and she's got a no for everything even though you literally did it two days ago. I really hate the inconsistency. When you couple that with the premium entry rate for the Hillcrest location, I'd rather share some time with consistent, fun and friendly providers. Hell, I'd rather spend the money prospecting on some new providers. At least then I'm establishing a new connection instead of leaving confused and disappointed with someone I've seen nearly 10 times.

So for most, I'd agree with the advise to pass unless that cash is burning a hole in your pocket.[/QUOTE]She really hates her job and thinks she is all that and a bag of chips.

Hard pass.

[QUOTE=JackeRouac;6967770]I see that Jess (formerly of Sorrento Valley) is coming back from Texas for another tour. I didn't catch up with her the last time she came through a couple of months back. Her post mentions "expanded menu". Years ago when she was in town it was full nude, he and maybe some daty. Anyone have intel on how expanded the menu has become? PM is fine.[/QUOTE]Her ad says she requires a deposit? IDK, never found one that requires that to be legit, but then again I haven't been around for too long to know if there are any from the past.

Has anyone seen Jessica Lith recently? I'd like to hear how she's looking now before jumping in.

Thanks!

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[QUOTE=JoeBlow25;6969719]Her ad says she requires a deposit? IDK, never found one that requires that to be legit, but then again I haven't been around for too long to know if there are any from the past.[/QUOTE]She's definitely legit. Great FBSM with HJ. Like I said in the past when was based here daty was a YMMV availability. So note I'm just wondering what "expanded menu" means in her ad. The deposit is something common for providers on "tour", but nevertheless it's not something I would normally consider unless there's more available from a known provider that delivers.

This one may be a reach, but thoughts of Jess coming back to town had me thinking about another from north County and then later Mission Valley. The redhead, KerryDD. She used to work with MissKim in Carlsbad and then located to her condo in MV. She had been starting to offer more than HE FBSM. She trailed off during the pandemic and was often giving an auto response to text that referenced health protocols circa 2020. I haven't reached out since 2020, but was just wondering if anyone had intel that she was still around albeit off the radar. Anyone know?

I had an amazing time with Mya today. She works out of an "office" in Kearny Mesa that many of you are probably familiar with. Texted with the booker and was able to set something up pretty quickly. Mya is absolutely stunning. Beautiful face, slim body, nice round ass, flat stomach, and perky natural Bs. She's probably 5' 7" and I'd guess she's around 25.

Very friendly throughout. Not much of a massage (to be expected), but she had me flip around the 10 minute mark and she dropped her clothes. She welcomed some pretty extensive mutual touching and she changed positions a few times so I could sample all of her assets. She gives a great HJ. Gets you close, then backs off and plays with your balls for a while, then back to the shaft, etc. Huge release on her titties and then she joined me in the shower to rinse off. Bubbly personality throughout. Definitely a woman I'll be returning to see. $200 for 45 minutes.

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Curious I know her ad says open minded but does that possibly mean BBBJ, Daty, and such or is it a YMMV thing any insight is greatly appreciated I'm waiting for her to post an ad this week so I can schedule something with her.

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[QUOTE=JM619;6972022]I had an amazing time with Mya today. She works out of an "office" in Kearny Mesa that many of you are probably familiar with. Texted with the booker and was able to set something up pretty quickly. Mya is absolutely stunning. Beautiful face, slim body, nice round ass, flat stomach, and perky natural Bs. She's probably 5' 7" and I'd guess she's around 25.

Very friendly throughout. Not much of a massage (to be expected), but she had me flip around the 10 minute mark and she dropped her clothes. She welcomed some pretty extensive mutual touching and she changed positions a few times so I could sample all of her assets. She gives a great HJ. Gets you close, then backs off and plays with your balls for a while, then back to the shaft, etc. Huge release on her titties and then she joined me in the shower to rinse off. Bubbly personality throughout. Definitely a woman I'll be returning to see. $200 for 45 minutes.

[URL]https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/california/san-diego/bodyrubs/body-rubs/gorgeous-myavnulb-unforgettable-time-27116.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Definitely one of my favorites too. Never rushed and likes to make sure you enjoy the time.

Anyone have any intel on her? Gladly appreciate it.

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[QUOTE=JM619;6972022]I had an amazing time with Mya today. She works out of an "office" in Kearny Mesa that many of you are probably familiar with. Texted with the booker and was able to set something up pretty quickly. Mya is absolutely stunning. Beautiful face, slim body, nice round ass, flat stomach, and perky natural Bs. She's probably 5' 7" and I'd guess she's around 25.

Very friendly throughout. Not much of a massage (to be expected), but she had me flip around the 10 minute mark and she dropped her clothes. She welcomed some pretty extensive mutual touching and she changed positions a few times so I could sample all of her assets. She gives a great HJ. Gets you close, then backs off and plays with your balls for a while, then back to the shaft, etc. Huge release on her titties and then she joined me in the shower to rinse off. Bubbly personality throughout. Definitely a woman I'll be returning to see. $200 for 45 minutes.[/QUOTE]Does she have an extensive menu, including like BBBJ, or is she just HE?

I don't know about BBJ but my hair raising experience with Zury included DATO, anal (she gets into it), ATM, and COF. I collapsed on the table after I popped.

Of course there is an additional fee for anal.

[QUOTE=JaseCoop;6972458]Curious I know her ad says open minded but does that possibly mean BBBJ, Daty, and such or is it a YMMV thing any insight is greatly appreciated I'm waiting for her to post an ad this week so I can schedule something with her.

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[QUOTE=BluesBalls;6973626]Does she have an extensive menu, including like BBBJ, or is she just HE?[/QUOTE]Upgrades are available. Out of respect to her wishes, I won't provide the numbers she quoted me. I didn't have any extra cash so it didn't matter anyways.

[QUOTE=JM619;6974090]Upgrades are available. Out of respect to her wishes, I won't provide the numbers she quoted me. I didn't have any extra cash so it didn't matter anyways.[/QUOTE]That's good to know. Thanks!

Has anyone got a chance to try this new provider out. She has an amazing body and has a fat ass her menu doesn't seem to be that good with only offering basics but probably since she's just starting out. If any of you want to TOFTT and check her out write back and let us know how it goes I'd love to get a piece of that.

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Thanks for the intel off to set up a meet.

[QUOTE=EH09M3;6973694]I don't know about BBJ but my hair raising experience with Zury included DATO, anal (she gets into it), ATM, and COF. I collapsed on the table after I popped.

Of course there is an additional fee for anal.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone seen Lucy. I feel like she's changed names recently but I can't remember what she used to go by so I can't search for her.

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[QUOTE=TheDude858;6974977]Has anyone seen Lucy. I feel like she's changed names recently but I can't remember what she used to go by so I can't search for her.

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[QUOTE=BluesBalls;6973626]Does she have an extensive menu, including like BBBJ, or is she just HE?[/QUOTE]I only saw her once and she went straight to a CBJ after flipping over. I never asked and I don't know if that's normal or not but I won't complain either. She tried to get a second pop out of me with her hand after but I don't recharge fast enough for that. Still felt good and I appreciated the effort.

[QUOTE=RealAccount123;6975094]Rosely.

I only saw her once and she went straight to a CBJ after flipping over. I never asked and I don't know if that's normal or not but I won't complain either. She tried to get a second pop out of me with her hand after but I don't recharge fast enough for that. Still felt good and I appreciated the effort.[/QUOTE]Just to be clear this was an efficient response about two different questions / providers. Rosely / Lucy is the answer to the first question. She comfortable with full nudity the entire session, will do some Russian and prostate is always available, but there is no CBJ or other upgrades as far as I know.

The second response was about Mya. Who is also comfortable with full nudity and offers fantastic extras sometimes as part of the admission.

[QUOTE=EH09M3;6973694]I don't know about BBJ but my hair raising experience with Zury included DATO, anal (she gets into it), ATM, and COF. I collapsed on the table after I popped.

Of course there is an additional fee for anal.[/QUOTE]Have any of you been to the new location in Bonita. I personally liked the old location by the golf course it was a little sketch but more secluded and discreet. The new location seems to be at some apartments and that is kind of a downer for me. Idk you guys but apartments always sketch me out for some reason you know for a fact someone has an eye out being nosey. Any tips that you guys recommend when visiting an apartment location to be more discreet. Thanks.

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I've been admiring the pictures of Melody's tits for years and finally pulled the trigger last night b / c of her $100 comic con all amenities special. She replied promptly to my texts and agreed upon the time, then ended up showing about 30 minutes late. She did text along the way and let me know she was running late, but not sure why she didn't ask for a later time. Oh well. She shows up in a grey dress and true to the pics, her tits are absolutely humongous. No make up on and she's kinda jumpy. I try to be nice and make her feel comfortable (got to feel for a woman walking into a unfamiliar place, that could be scary), offer her a drink, and she takes me up on a tequila with seltzer. We talk for a few minutes and she just seems very scatter-brained. No smiles. And she's constantly replying to texts on her phone. After like ten minutes of her on her phone, we finally get down to business. She takes off that dress and those tits are everything I hoped they would be. Huge, natural, and very firm. They are so heavy! I've never been with a woman with tits that big that are still that firm. Objectively incredible breasts.

There was zero massage. She got naked, I got naked, and she just went for the BBBJ. She positioned herself at like a 90 degree angle perpendicular to me and those tits were jammed up against my arm pit so I couldn't easily touch them. Her BBBJ was pretty good. Not bad, not great. And she definitely puts in the effort. After a few minutes I asked if I could play with her tits for a while, and she obliged, but it just wasn't very good. She plopped them in my face and had a look on her face like "when will this be over. " she then asked if I had a condom, and when I said I didn't, she just jumped backed into the perpendicular BBBJ. At one point she started doing Russian at that angle, which felt pretty good, but I couldn't see it all due to the angle, so it wasn't nearly as hot as it could have been. After 5 ish more minutes of me not coming from her BBBJ, she asks if I've clean and if I've been tested. I am and I have, but I'm not going bare. But to the rest of you, it's definitely on the table. She goes back to the BBBJ and I eventually get there, CIM. I will say that she kept my cock in her mouth post nutt for quite some time, which felt nice. After a bit, she goes to the bathroom to spit and clean up. Clothes go back on and she's out the door. I paid $100 for 30 minutes and probably got about 18. I could tell she needed to be somewhere else.

Will I see her again? Nope. Was it worth the price of admission to see and feel those tits once? For the $100 rate, probably. Also, she seemed to be annoyed that I complimented her on her tits and wanted to touch and feel them. I'm sure every guy books her for her tits and she probably wants to be known for more than that, but on the other hand, I got to think those things pay the bills. Anyway, she was just not into the session at all. Mechanical and transactional.

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I've been admiring the pictures of Melody's tits for years and finally pulled the trigger last night b / c of her $100 comic con all amenities special. She replied promptly to my texts and agreed upon the time, then ended up showing about 30 minutes late. She did text along the way and let me know she was running late, but not sure why she didn't ask for a later time. Oh well. She shows up in a grey dress and true to the pics, her tits are absolutely humongous. No make up on and she's kinda jumpy. I try to be nice and make her feel comfortable (got to feel for a woman walking into a unfamiliar place, that could be scary), offer her a drink, and she takes me up on a tequila with seltzer. We talk for a few minutes and she just seems very scatter-brained. No smiles. And she's constantly replying to texts on her phone. After like ten minutes of her on her phone, we finally get down to business. She takes off that dress and those tits are everything I hoped they would be. Huge, natural, and very firm. They are so heavy! I've never been with a woman with tits that big that are still that firm. Objectively incredible breasts.

There was zero massage. She got naked, I got naked, and she just went for the BBBJ. She positioned herself at like a 90 degree angle perpendicular to me and those tits were jammed up against my arm pit so I couldn't easily touch them. Her BBBJ was pretty good. Not bad, not great. And she definitely puts in the effort. After a few minutes I asked if I could play with her tits for a while, and she obliged, but it just wasn't very good. She plopped them in my face and had a look on her face like "when will this be over. " she then asked if I had a condom, and when I said I didn't, she just jumped backed into the perpendicular BBBJ. At one point she started doing Russian at that angle, which felt pretty good, but I couldn't see it all due to the angle, so it wasn't nearly as hot as it could have been. After 5 ish more minutes of me not coming from her BBBJ, she asks if I've clean and if I've been tested. I am and I have, but I'm not going bare. But to the rest of you, it's definitely on the table. She goes back to the BBBJ and I eventually get there, CIM. I will say that she kept my cock in her mouth post nutt for quite some time, which felt nice. After a bit, she goes to the bathroom to spit and clean up. Clothes go back on and she's out the door. I paid $100 for 30 minutes and probably got about 18. I could tell she needed to be somewhere else.

Will I see her again? Nope. Was it worth the price of admission to see and feel those tits once? For the $100 rate, probably. Also, she seemed to be annoyed that I complimented her on her tits and wanted to touch and feel them. I'm sure every guy books her for her tits and she probably wants to be known for more than that, but on the other hand, I got to think those things pay the bills. Anyway, she was just not into the session at all. Mechanical and transactional.[/QUOTE]I saw her once about 2 years ago and also wouldn't repeat. The first time I tried to connect with her she flaked on me. Claimed she was in an Uber on the way to my hotel and got into a car accident. I gave her the benefit of the doubt and scheduled for the following week. She came to my hotel. I thought she was heavier than pictured. And dressed pretty sloppily.

I agree her huge tits are amazing. She used to post about how she was actually in massage school. We started with a massage and it was terrible. She did let me play with her tits for a bit and I sucked them like no tomorrow. Then on went a cover and doggy until I popped in the bag. When it was over, she asked if she could use my shower. I felt bad for her and let her take a shower.

About 2 months ago I was hard up one night and hit her up. She was available but wanted me to send her a face picture to verify. I reminded her of our prior session with details and she said no face picture, no meet up. So I passed and won't hit her up again.

Anyone try out Christina recently? There's a couple posts about her, but no mention of her looks. Are the pictures of her? Or an accurate / proper representation of her? Not interested in having another Heidi moment where she's too old, or fugly, or pictures are too old where she's practically 50 pounds heavier in real life.

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TIA!

Has anybody tried out Jaz? Any information would be appreciated.

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Saw Sarah BBW (or just BW).

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She had a 80 hhr special so I figured why not. She took off her top to reveal her large tits and started a weak body oil rub on me. No teasing at all, just rubbing with oil.

On the flip, she went straight for junior and started an uninspiring HJ while I grabbed at her tits as she fake moaned. I got them in my mouth for a bit and went back to grabbing, eventually busted. She wiped me off and said thanks. Probably 20 minutes total. Def no repeat.

New girl that is in the same Kearny office with Isabelli, Joana, Lily (haven't seen her around much lately).

Cici is a 20 something Brazilian. Good friends with Joana, latest pics for both show them together. Cici has a pretty face and legs / ass that compare to Gabi (Brazilian) who used to be in north county area. Her tits are natural and nice sized. Fully nude for the entry fee. The massage was ok, but she's trained like Isabelli or Lily who gives excellent body work. Some nice teasing face down. Then on the flip, lots of touching and sensuality. Upgrades are available, but I stuck with the HJ release with her on top of me sliding and groping. I would revisit, but she's not my top choice in that office. Mostly due to number of times I've seen the others and rapport that has been built up.

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Has anyone seen this provider, found on Craigslist in the Clairemont area working out of an office?

[QUOTE=RubMesd;6983632]Has anyone seen this provider, found on
Craigslist in the Clairemont area working out of an office?[/QUOTE]Lets try this pic upload on more time.

[QUOTE=RubMesd;6987719]Lets try this pic upload on more time.[/QUOTE]I'd tell you what it finds, but since you didn't include an ad link and I had to find it myself, I'll let you do your own research.

[QUOTE=RubMesd;6987719]Lets try this pic upload on more time.[/QUOTE]383009 this number ties out to this posting with the same picture.

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I saw that Eveline was working at the little house again so I decided to pay her a visit. It had been a few years since the last time.

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It's basically what I remember. Her face is showing some years but the body is still great. Decent quality massage with a bunch of teasing leading up to a lot of fun on the flip. I love how she actually goes full nude and doesn't have any issues with being touched. Always a solid choice when she's working and gave me a much needed explosive finish plus a nice massage after while I was having my post but relaxation.