"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=Modukolo123;7313691]Are you aware that some crazy people pay girls as much as $10 k a month? They are the reason for these girls asking this much, as they read a lot of stuff on Reddit about SR.[/QUOTE]I'm aware there are girls that claim to get paid a huge amount for nothing more than sitting there looking pretty, but the fact is they just don't want to admit they were sucking some dudes dick for a few hundred bucks and there happened to be a Lamborghini that they stood beside to take some pics. I don't believe anything I read on social media.

Of course it happens. Look at DIDDY!. With that. Just put numbers to things. How many folks can easily afford to drop 100 k yr for an SB. That is the 1% of the 1% so 1 out of 1000. Then how many of them are looking for an SB. It is very rare this happens. But I am sure it does for a bit and they get kicked to the curb.

[QUOTE=Airmantroy;7314021]I'm aware there are girls that claim to get paid a huge amount for nothing more than sitting there looking pretty, but the fact is they just don't want to admit they were sucking some dudes dick for a few hundred bucks and there happened to be a Lamborghini that they stood beside to take some pics. I don't believe anything I read on social media.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LikeMike1963;7314064]Of course it happens. Look at DIDDY!. With that. Just put numbers to things. How many folks can easily afford to drop 100 k yr for an SB. That is the 1% of the 1% so 1 out of 1000. Then how many of them are looking for an SB. It is very rare this happens. But I am sure it does for a bit and they get kicked to the curb.[/QUOTE]Also don't always believe what some of these SB's say just because they say it or believe it themselves. I've been playing with a woman I actually feel fond over and she just showed me a Rolex another man gifted her. We're pretty open about our other relations minus my mongering here but that shit was 200% fake. So was the Chanel bag since she then checked all her gifts they gifted her.

I don't blame the dude but it always all that in some cases.

[QUOTE=LikeMike1963;7314064]Of course it happens. Look at DIDDY!. With that. Just put numbers to things. How many folks can easily afford to drop 100 k yr for an SB. That is the 1% of the 1% so 1 out of 1000. Then how many of them are looking for an SB. It is very rare this happens. But I am sure it does for a bit and they get kicked to the curb.[/QUOTE]If you can afford to drop $100 k a year for a SB, then you can goto a $500 ticket fund raiser and get a former east european model, 99.999% of the women on seeking can't compete with these women. I've seen this scene in South Florida with a buddy had a net worth around $25 million, he would meet girls at fundraisers, then invite them out for a day in his $2 million boat. Have you ever seen pictures of old men in $2 million boats surrounded by 20 something models? Most of the girls are shopping for a trophy husband and are not focused on a PPM or allowance, his girl traveled with him all over the world because he could provide luxury travel, all he did was pay her $3 k a month apartment and car note.

[QUOTE=WashMyWhistle;7314183]Also don't always believe what some of these SB's say just because they say it or believe it themselves.[/QUOTE]I think this is the right answer here. I'm sure it happens, but it's frequency mostly the stuff of SugarBaby urban legends & folklore.

In regards to $10 k / month, can someone versed in accounting / finance want to walk me through how that happens? If we assume it's all cash, that's quite the feat. I know there's businesses that process many times that in cash, but the debits and credits still need to add up. And on the Sugar Babies end, is she just depositing $10 k cash in the bank every month? Even if you spread that out, it will still trigger alerts.

Let's say it's done electronically rather than cash; then there's definitely a trail. I suppose the SD could pay her in crypto, but how many SD / SB's are really knowledgeable enough to take all the steps to keep that anonymous?

It seems the most logical way to transfer $10 k / month in wealth would be directly paying for an apartment and / or car note, as was mentioned earlier.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;7314767]If you can afford to drop $100 k a year for a SB, then you can goto a $500 ticket fund raiser and get a former east european model, 99.999% of the women on seeking can't compete with these women. I've seen this scene in South Florida with a buddy had a net worth around $25 million, he would meet girls at fundraisers, then invite them out for a day in his $2 million boat. Have you ever seen pictures of old men in $2 million boats surrounded by 20 something models? Most of the girls are shopping for a trophy husband and are not focused on a PPM or allowance, his girl traveled with him all over the world because he could provide luxury travel, all he did was pay her $3 k a month apartment and car note.[/QUOTE]I assume your buddy must be single as that is another variable. Even an half intelligent spouse.

Would pick up those level of transactions like car note or apt etc. Or spending time on the boat with 20 something.

[QUOTE=PeterPan;7314899]I assume your buddy must be single as that is another variable. Even an half intelligent spouse.

Would pick up those level of transactions like car note or apt etc. Or spending time on the boat with 20 something.[/QUOTE]Divorced, wife got fat & uninterested in sex, she caught him with a hotter model who wanted to replace her.

[QUOTE=ChristianTroy;7314834]I think this is the right answer here. I'm sure it happens, but it's frequency mostly the stuff of SugarBaby urban legends & folklore.

In regards to $10 k / month, can someone versed in accounting / finance want to walk me through how that happens? If we assume it's all cash, that's quite the feat. I know there's businesses that process many times that in cash, but the debits and credits still need to add up. And on the Sugar Babies end, is she just depositing $10 k cash in the bank every month? Even if you spread that out, it will still trigger alerts.

Let's say it's done electronically rather than cash; then there's definitely a trail. I suppose the SD could pay her in crypto, but how many SD / SB's are really knowledgeable enough to take all the steps to keep that anonymous?

It seems the most logical way to transfer $10 k / month in wealth would be directly paying for an apartment and / or car note, as was mentioned earlier.[/QUOTE]1) You're correct, it's basically an urban legend. Any SD who can afford $10 K per month on an allowance is nowhere on Seeking. Simple as that. Hell, remember when Matt Gaetz's allowance receipts were revealed? He was paying 200-300 for FSU coeds who looked like models. He was a pretty wealthy guy even before leaving congress thanks speaker fees / board of directors positions and all the other perks that come from being an influential politician, and he was banging out co-eds for less than a mortgage payment a month. When girls talk about the mythical $10 K SD, the reality is no different than a winning lottery ticket. Yes, it's out there, and yes, you might find it, but the odds are so small that it's really non-existent.

2) At that level, there's a few different things you'd need to do. You'd likely have a law firm on retainer that can setup shell corps for you on a whim. You setup a S-Corp and either hire your SB as an employee or pay them as a consultant / 1099. You likely also rent / buy the apartment and car under the company (this is literally what Bill Belichick did with his SB / GF now fiance. He set up her company "Trouble Club Enterprises" and funneled her expenses through it). You then have another one of your companies hire the shell company for "consulting" services and bill for whatever amount you need to cover expenses and allowance. If you want to get really advanced, you can have the shell company borrow money from one of your other companies against it's assets, and when you need to sever things with the SB you simply liquidate the shell company and your company that gave out the loan can take all the assets back to settle the loan leaving the shell company with nothing but paper in case the SB wants to try and file suit against it to maintain the assets.

Tl; dr rich people shit let's them do whatever the fuck they want with money.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;7315089]1) You're correct, it's basically an urban legend. Any SD who can afford $10 K per month on an allowance is nowhere on Seeking. Simple as that. Hell, remember when Matt Gaetz's allowance receipts were revealed? He was paying 200-300 for FSU coeds who looked like models. He was a pretty wealthy guy even before leaving congress thanks speaker fees / board of directors positions and all the other perks that come from being an influential politician, and he was banging out co-eds for less than a mortgage payment a month. When girls talk about the mythical $10 K SD, the reality is no different than a winning lottery ticket. Yes, it's out there, and yes, you might find it, but the odds are so small that it's really non-existent.

2) At that level, there's a few different things you'd need to do. You'd likely have a law firm on retainer that can setup shell corps for you on a whim. You setup a S-Corp and either hire your SB as an employee or pay them as a consultant / 1099. You likely also rent / buy the apartment and car under the company (this is literally what Bill Belichick did with his SB / GF now fiance. He set up her company "Trouble Club Enterprises" and funneled her expenses through it). You then have another one of your companies hire the shell company for "consulting" services and bill for whatever amount you need to cover expenses and allowance. If you want to get really advanced, you can have the shell company borrow money from one of your other companies against it's assets, and when you need to sever things with the SB you simply liquidate the shell company and your company that gave out the loan can take all the assets back to settle the loan leaving the shell company with nothing but paper in case the SB wants to try and file suit against it to maintain the assets.

Tl; dr rich people shit let's them do whatever the fuck they want with money.[/QUOTE]Lately a lot of young white college girls want $1 k per meet. They are real and ready to fuck. Lowest they would go is sometimes.

700 or 800. I guess on a good day with nice approach and some good looks and good attitude / treat them as a princess etc might get you a bit lower.

But that is the recent trend. Not saying again there are options and there are around 3- 500 range as well.

[QUOTE=PeterPan;7315257]Lately a lot of young white college girls want $1 k per meet. They are real and ready to fuck. Lowest they would go is sometimes.

700 or 800. I guess on a good day with nice approach and some good looks and good attitude / treat them as a princess etc might get you a bit lower.

But that is the recent trend. Not saying again there are options and there are around 3- 500 range as well.[/QUOTE]I met a POT recently for lunch, and had a small convo w / her about the arrangement. We did this sitting in front of the restaurant because she was so nervous. She would not consider sitting in my car. Anyway, at that time, she offered the idea of a per meet amount of 800. She had her rationale, they all do. Some time passed, we met for coffee another morning. She wasn't too nervous this time, but still would not go to my car. We went out to the patio to talk, I went into my usual explanation of how I typically do things, but because of time constraints, didn't get to the allowance. Afterward a few days, she texted that she was ready to begin our arrangement, somewhat to my surprise. I decided to do a phone call w / her to deal w / the $, I certainly wasn't going to let her assume she was getting the 800 she earlier stated. So I got on the phone w / her and said I would give her 450 for the first meet, just to be sure she was super happy w / all aspects of 'arrangements' for our first time, and that afterward she would get 350 per meet. The call ended, and she was non-committal. I truly expected to never hear from her again.

I was surprised last Monday to get a text from her saying she was ready to schedule. We met Thursday morning, and despite her earlier nervousness, because I treated her w / consideration and brought champagne / OJ to make a mimosa for her (to get her a little drunk), she was very excited to be banging me. The sex was pretty good, and she super enjoyed giving a great BJ. One red flag, she wasn't much on the kissing, IDK if this is her way of holding back, that would have to be fixed for me to see her ongoing.

Anyway, some of these girls haven't really thought through all this, are likely conflicted about arrangements, and it varies through time.

[QUOTE=PeterPan;7315257]Lately a lot of young white college girls want $1 k per meet. They are real and ready to fuck. Lowest they would go is sometimes.

700 or 800. I guess on a good day with nice approach and some good looks and good attitude / treat them as a princess etc might get you a bit lower.

But that is the recent trend. Not saying again there are options and there are around 3- 500 range as well.[/QUOTE]It's the market here, economy has sucked a lot of girls out of the market and also a lot of people have disposable cash. Things won't be normal again for a while, we are going to need a 2-3 year deep recession for prices to back to 2020. I recently did a latino girl for $250 met her on SDM, but early 20's co-ed white girls command a premium.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;7315377]It's the market here, economy has sucked a lot of girls out of the market and also a lot of people have disposable cash. Things won't be normal again for a while, we are going to need a 2-3 year deep recession for prices to back to 2020. I recently did a latino girl for $250 met her on SDM, but early 20's co-ed white girls command a premium.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeterPan;7315257]Lately a lot of young white college girls want $1 k per meet. They are real and ready to fuck. Lowest they would go is sometimes.

700 or 800. I guess on a good day with nice approach and some good looks and good attitude / treat them as a princess etc might get you a bit lower.

But that is the recent trend. Not saying again there are options and there are around 3- 500 range as well.[/QUOTE]I think it's important to distinguish between two distinct (but not mutually exclusive) scenarios:

Scenario A) Record high unemployment among recent college grads is causing a lot of hot 20-something white coed's to enter the sugar bowl that would normally not do so. They don't have good information on market rates and current supply / demand so they're setting high prices ($1,000 ppm).

Scenario B) Existing 20-something's are attempting to raise ppm's to higher levels (potentially motivated by sugar influencers).

I think we're seeing a lot of Scenario A and some of Scenario B. Unemployment and underemployment is super high among 20-somethings and I think we'll continue to see an increase in first-time entrants to the sugar bowl, particularly from demographics that wouldn't normally be participating (e. G. 20-something college graduates).

Scenario B is always happening, but I don't think it's happening at a higher rate than it has historically. Maybe slightly higher with the rise of social media.

Of course all of this is conjecture since we don't really have reliable data, although I'd love to see some of Seeking's analytics.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7315344]I met a POT recently for lunch, and had a small convo w / her about the arrangement. We did this sitting in front of the restaurant because she was so nervous. She would not consider sitting in my car. Anyway, at that time, she offered the idea of a per meet amount of 800. She had her rationale, they all do. Some time passed, we met for coffee another morning. She wasn't too nervous this time, but still would not go to my car. We went out to the patio to talk, I went into my usual explanation of how I typically do things, but because of time constraints, didn't get to the allowance. Afterward a few days, she texted that she was ready to begin our arrangement, somewhat to my surprise. I decided to do a phone call w / her to deal w / the $, I certainly wasn't going to let her assume she was getting the 800 she earlier stated. So I got on the phone w / her and said I would give her 450 for the first meet, just to be sure she was super happy w / all aspects of 'arrangements' for our first time, and that afterward she would get 350 per meet. The call ended, and she was non-committal. I truly expected to never hear from her again.

I was surprised last Monday to get a text from her saying she was ready to schedule. We met Thursday morning, and despite her earlier nervousness, because I treated her w / consideration and brought champagne / OJ to make a mimosa for her (to get her a little drunk), she was very excited to be banging me. The sex was pretty good, and she super enjoyed giving a great BJ. One red flag, she wasn't much on the kissing, IDK if this is her way of holding back, that would have to be fixed for me to see her ongoing.

Anyway, some of these girls haven't really thought through all this, are likely conflicted about arrangements, and it varies through time.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you were able to spot and land a unicorn. But most young college girls now I am interacting are not this naive.

They have friends who have done this already. If the girl is hot truly, plenty of men happy to throw $800 or more is what I am observing.

Again for the young white hot slim college girls. , they also have high end taste. I went to some high end restaurants per their pick. Where bill was close to $500 after tip.

The shit is getting insane, . I'm truly considering a break or stick to one of my rotation or regular, who is a MILF, still pretty hot but very appreciative of the $300.

She gets from me.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;7315377]It's the market here, economy has sucked a lot of girls out of the market and also a lot of people have disposable cash. Things won't be normal again for a while, we are going to need a 2-3 year deep recession for prices to back to 2020. I recently did a latino girl for $250 met her on SDM, but early 20's co-ed white girls command a premium.[/QUOTE]Agree with you seeking head and Christian Troy.

1).

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6cbe0949-5916-4772-ae49-3bf303117cd0[/URL]

2 k to 1 k per meet or 4 k to 5 k per month.

2).

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c4577a7e-2c0d-4cee-abc0-2577418eb486[/URL]

$1 k ppm.

3) negotiated down to $800.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e09abf3a-e850-4743-9b60-d5b54a193acf[/URL]

There are many more! But hoping you guys can.

Share your list as well.