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Ha
[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;3076841]Well gentleman. I visited this place recently: [URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/angel-spa-new-open-free-table-shower-parking-best-massage-in-chicago-area/39987383[/URL].
So after reading that ad, one might come to the conclusion that this place has young women willing to provide a HE. Not only was there nobody under 40, but it was a legit place. They have curtains instead of doors and the place is a joke. I was furious but I did not say anything to the provider simply because if I had to guess, it was not her fault. The owner puts those ads up to get us in the door. This is wrong on so many levels. It puts the MT's in a very difficult position, if not a dangerous one. The massage was pretty decent but I had already had my legit massage for the week. I was not looking for another one that was sub par to the one I had at my legit place, that doesn't false advertise.
I don't go to AMP's much anymore. I'm more of an EMP guy myself but I do venture out to one every month or so. It's these types of situations that keep me from going more often. There's something inherently dishonest about Chinese culture when it comes to business and I'm not afraid to state it. Having had to deal with them in my professional life as well as personal, I am unfortunately used to it by now. Sure, there are many good Chinese people out there who work hard and are honest. However, this is more than just a few bad apples. There is a culture of deception, dishonesty, and when it comes to patents, outright theft, that is prevalent in their business way of life. This is why, despite recent success in a wide range of fields, they are still viewed as a villain on the world stage.[/QUOTE]GREATEST POST. FYI YOU'RE SUCH A RACIEST AS THE KILLARY FANS WOULD SAY. (I'm BEING A SMART ASS FOR ALL OF YOU TARDS OUT THERE).
FINGER.
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Ymmv
[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;3076841]Well gentleman. I visited this place recently: [URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/angel-spa-new-open-free-table-shower-parking-best-massage-in-chicago-area/39987383[/URL].
So after reading that ad, one might come to the conclusion that this place has young women willing to provide a HE. Not only was there nobody under 40, but it was a legit place. They have curtains instead of doors and the place is a joke. I was furious but I did not say anything to the provider simply because if I had to guess, it was not her fault. The owner puts those ads up to get us in the door. This is wrong on so many levels. It puts the MT's in a very difficult position, if not a dangerous one. The massage was pretty decent but I had already had my legit massage for the week. I was not looking for another one that was sub par to the one I had at my legit place, that doesn't false advertise.
I don't go to AMP's much anymore. I'm more of an EMP guy myself but I do venture out to one every month or so. It's these types of situations that keep me from going more often. There's something inherently dishonest about Chinese culture when it comes to business and I'm not afraid to state it. Having had to deal with them in my professional life as well as personal, I am unfortunately used to it by now. Sure, there are many good Chinese people out there who work hard and are honest. However, this is more than just a few bad apples. There is a culture of deception, dishonesty, and when it comes to patents, outright theft, that is prevalent in their business way of life. This is why, despite recent success in a wide range of fields, they are still viewed as a villain on the world stage.[/QUOTE]I get that maybe the ads suggest something that isn't on offer, but I can say that I gave that place a shot a few months ago and had a different experience. Sure, it's a bit awkward to have curtains instead of doors, but I wouldn't be so quick to rule out extras and call foul for false advertising. My first experience: utc roaming, BBBJ.
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Chicago AMPs
Hey Howz'it.
This is the third city I have posted in. I lived in Hawaii / Honolulu where the AMPs are a dime a dozen and now I am in Oregon where they are few and far between. I have to travel 45 minutes to get a proper massage with the results I need. I am visiting the Windy City in a couple of weeks, going to a Bears game and I would go to go Cubs game but as luck would have it they will be on the road the week I am there so I have to settle for a Sox game. Anyhow I was checking out your posts here and a couple of AMP names came up. The best thing is they are a close to where I am staying. I am familiar with the game of how to get the extras but, I want to go with the flow of what people are giving to the house and what people are tipping. If someone would PM me that would be great.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Valker;3076917]Hello everyone,
Did any one recently visit sky?
Is it really that hi, like 80+1. 2=$$ for FS?[/QUOTE]I think that might be on the cheaper side of what you might expect to pay at Sky. I've never thought it was worth it.
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Laughing
I enjoyed the post and took it in the spirit which it was intended. Bob.
[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;3076491]Well, I've made a grilled cheese sandwich. But a Grilled Cheese Sandwich might be something different.
But I've met Bob & L, he's probably a mixture of laughing, yet horrified reading your post.[/QUOTE]
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Oh yes it is.
[QUOTE=BenBeck;3076974]I get that maybe the ads suggest something that isn't on offer, but I can say that I gave that place a shot a few months ago and had a different experience. Sure, it's a bit awkward to have curtains instead of doors, but I wouldn't be so quick to rule out extras and call foul for false advertising. My first experience: utc roaming, BBBJ.[/QUOTE]The ad calls for very young girls. There's nobody young in that place. I'm not necessarily upset about the lack of HE, as I would have likely regretted it. I'm not upset at the MT's for not being attractive and being older. They have a right to work and establish their own clientele. I am upset about the lies and deception. By giving them my money, I am reinforcing their belief that they can get away with false advertisement. It is my time and money that I would have spent somewhere else, for a much better occasion, being thrown down the pit of falsehood. I am in fact paying to have a bad time, under the impression of having a good time. Lastly, I would have never have gone there without that misleading advertisement and they know this. It is one thing to risk your money on a TOFTT exploratory session with a new establishment, whose ad is basic and not revealing of what is inside. It is another to be blatantly lied to under the hope that once you have paid, you will go through with it and not ask for your money back.
I try to tailor my sessions so that I only see the best of the best, the youngest most attractive providers. I am not here to finance the middle age retirement fund of the wrap it up and tuck it in crowd of 1990's talent.
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[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;3076841]Well gentleman. I visited this place recently: [URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/angel-spa-new-open-free-table-shower-parking-best-massage-in-chicago-area/39987383[/URL].
So after reading that ad, one might come to the conclusion that this place has young women willing to provide a HE. Not only was there nobody under 40, but it was a legit place. They have curtains instead of doors and the place is a joke. I was furious but I did not say anything to the provider simply because if I had to guess, it was not her fault. The owner puts those ads up to get us in the door. This is wrong on so many levels. It puts the MT's in a very difficult position, if not a dangerous one. The massage was pretty decent but I had already had my legit massage for the week. I was not looking for another one that was sub par to the one I had at my legit place, that doesn't false advertise.
I don't go to AMP's much anymore. I'm more of an EMP guy myself but I do venture out to one every month or so. It's these types of situations that keep me from going more often. There's something inherently dishonest about Chinese culture when it comes to business and I'm not afraid to state it. Having had to deal with them in my professional life as well as personal, I am unfortunately used to it by now. Sure, there are many good Chinese people out there who work hard and are honest. However, this is more than just a few bad apples. There is a culture of deception, dishonesty, and when it comes to patents, outright theft, that is prevalent in their business way of life. This is why, despite recent success in a wide range of fields, they are still viewed as a villain on the world stage.[/QUOTE]If you saw curtains and don't like them, why didn't you walk out? If your therapist was over 40 and you didn't like her because of her age, why didn't you leave? Nobody was holding a gun to your head so if the place already had 2 strikes against it before even starting then why did you stay?
I don't get the rationale.
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Doesn't change a thing
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;3077554]If you saw curtains and don't like them, why didn't you walk out? If your therapist was over 40 and you didn't like her because of her age, why didn't you leave? Nobody was holding a gun to your head so if the place already had 2 strikes against it before even starting then why did you stay?
I don't get the rationale.[/QUOTE]Sure I could have walked out. I was already undressed, had paid by credit card. Yep I could have humiliated the MT by getting dressed again after looking at her, walked up to the front desk and asked for a refund on my credit card, and then proceeded to explain to them that I am leaving because of a false ad, which I bet both of them know nothing about, because the owner posted it.
Whether I chose to do that or not is not the point. The point is that this place is a scam and I'm letting people know.
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Animal House
Reminds me of the line from Animal house after they trash Flounder's brother's car. Belushi says "You fucked up. You trusted us. " [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-glKGjp50Ug[/URL].
Never ever believe an AMP ad. 99.9% fake pictures. Once you get inside, and before you pay the house fee, if looks are your criteria you can ask to see the MT. Then make your own decisions.
[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;3077205]The ad calls for very young girls. There's nobody young in that place. I'm not necessarily upset about the lack of HE, as I would have likely regretted it. I'm not upset at the MT's for not being attractive and being older. They have a right to work and establish their own clientele. I am upset about the lies and deception. By giving them my money, I am reinforcing their belief that they can get away with false advertisement. It is my time and money that I would have spent somewhere else, for a much better occasion, being thrown down the pit of falsehood. I am in fact paying to have a bad time, under the impression of having a good time. Lastly, I would have never have gone there without that misleading advertisement and they know this. It is one thing to risk your money on a TOFTT exploratory session with a new establishment, whose ad is basic and not revealing of what is inside. It is another to be blatantly lied to under the hope that once you have paid, you will go through with it and not ask for your money back.
I try to tailor my sessions so that I only see the best of the best, the youngest most attractive providers. I am not here to finance the middle age retirement fund of the wrap it up and tuck it in crowd of 1990's talent.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;3077640]Sure I could have walked out. I was already undressed, had paid by credit card. Yep I could have humiliated the MT by getting dressed again after looking at her, walked up to the front desk and asked for a refund on my credit card, and then proceeded to explain to them that I am leaving because of a false ad, which I bet both of them know nothing about, because the owner posted it.
Whether I chose to do that or not is not the point. The point is that this place is a scam and I'm letting people know.[/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong, I for one am guilty of this in the past and I totally understand you being upset however, the reason the scam continues is because too many of us don't ask for a refund and walk out. The only thing an owner understands is the bottom line and if they feel they can get away with fake ads and lousy service but continue to make money they will. By not walking out or asking for a refund we are just reinforcing the fact that they can continue to make money with the fake ads and lousy service.
When confronted with your situation these days I just take a hike. Thanks for the tip, I really do appreciate it and will not give them my money.
AJ.
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Chi vs. Kor
In respect of a new Chi AMS menu, bs advertising etc.
Isn't it a well known fact that he is the hottest dish on chi ams, or even nothing?
Why would anyone be unpleasantly surprised then?
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It won't help
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;3077741]Don't get me wrong, I for one am guilty of this in the past and I totally understand you being upset however, the reason the scam continues is because too many of us don't ask for a refund and walk out. The only thing an owner understands is the bottom line and if they feel they can get away with fake ads and lousy service but continue to make money they will. By not walking out or asking for a refund we are just reinforcing the fact that they can continue to make money with the fake ads and lousy service.
When confronted with your situation these days I just take a hike. Thanks for the tip, I really do appreciate it and will not give them my money.
AJ.[/QUOTE]Good advice, but the problem is for each one of us reading the forum here, there are way more guys out there who don't know about usasg. Why do you think Lane Spa is still around with their grandma staff after all these years? Same with the jack shacks on Lake Street? People are still going there.
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Don't Care If It Helps
[QUOTE=OFCharlie;3077823]Good advice, but the problem is for each one of us reading the forum here, there are way more guys out there who don't know about usasg. Why do you think Lane Spa is still around with their grandma staff after all these years? Same with the jack shacks on Lake Street? People are still going there.[/QUOTE]Yes, unfortunately you are correct but I will still continue to walk out and spend my money elsewhere especially when the advertising is so blatantly false. Four weeks ago I walked out of the place in Elmhurst and two weeks ago cut short a massage in Villa Park leaving only small tip. In both places the owners were present and were not happy but I didn't care. Did they get the message? I hope so. Will it help? I don't know but it's what I do and will continue to do regardless of whether anyone thinks it helps or not. I refuse to reinforce or empower bad service or advertising so blatantly false that a blind man could see it.
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If more mongers did this, the hope would be the service would get better. But in reality it probably would not. Many of the workers I've come across at the spa's don't care and haven't a clue on what good customer service is. I had one so bad she got no tip and as I was walking out she held out the bottle of water while looking the opposite wall and not looking at me. Sad state of affairs.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;3078005]Yes, unfortunately you are correct but I will still continue to walk out and spend my money elsewhere especially when the advertising is so blatantly false. Four weeks ago I walked out of the place in Elmhurst and two weeks ago cut short a massage in Villa Park leaving only small tip. In both places the owners were present and were not happy but I didn't care. Did they get the message? I hope so. Will it help? I don't know but it's what I do and will continue to do regardless of whether anyone thinks it helps or not. I refuse to reinforce or empower bad service or advertising so blatantly false that a blind man could see it.[/QUOTE]
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Angel
Look at my post from 9-14 about Angel. First of all the massage rooms have doors but the table shower has 2 sets of curtains. While my mt wasn't close to under age I thought she was attractive and did provide relief And really if you believe all the ads like that I'm surprised you haven't purchased a bridge.