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[QUOTE=Argongas1;5540785]Totally forgot about Doublelist. Thanks! I just wish there were more casual places to go for this. It's either talking to a 600 an hour Dom, or starting a whole new lifestyle. I just want to try a few different things without putting in too much work.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I didn't mean to suggest paying a Dom their normal hourly rate just talk to see if they have any leads. Maybe a 100 or so for leads and double it if anything pans out.

It just doesn't seem realistic though to get what you want without putting a lot of effort into it, unless Doublelist works out. Good luck.

[QUOTE=LotharioPK;5540945]I learned a LOT about the hobby on my latest (mis) adventure. First, in my date with Amber I learned about the joys of a young spinner and the sorrows of drug use and incompatible genital proportions. Then I learned about the risks in scheduling yourself too tightly and the importance of careful communication.

After my date with Amber came (or didn't come?) to an unsatisfactory conclusion, I was in a bad way. I had taken a tadalafil (Cialis) to assure that the purple helmeted warrior did his duty and I had major wood and a lot of frustration. I contacted Delilah, one of my ATFs, for a relief date even though I was pushing my available time window by that point (little head was firmly in control by that point). What happened next can best be described as either a comedy of errors or a tragedy of good intentions. I erased the text thread when I cleaned up the phone later so I don't have the exact conversation but it was something like:

Me 1:00 Hey, can you see me soon?

Her 1:05 OK.

Me 1:07 See you in 15-20 min.

Her 1:25 Oh no! I missed your last message! If I don't answer right away next time call me. I'm at Walmart. I can be there in 30 minutes.

Me 1:26 OK, I'll get close by and wait.

Me 1:35 I'm 3 minutes away. Let me know when you're ready.

At this point I get a call that closes my time window and I have to bail. I felt bad, but I figured she's be no worse off than if I hadn't texted for an appt in the first place. So I text:

Me 1:45 Crap. Life intrudes. My time window has closed. We'll have to try again for another day.

I figured that would be the end of it, but as I'm driving a few minutes later I get a text message and then a phone call from Delilah telling me in no uncertain term what an ahole I am for making another date when she was hurrying, cutting her trip short and paying more money to get back faster (apparently she doesn't drive). I asked her why she thought I was making another date and she said she said I sent a message (my 1:35 message above) telling another girl I would be coming in. I tried to explain that the 1:35 message WAS to her and I WAS 3 minutes from her hotel before my window closed early, but she's not having it so far. I may be down an ATF. Bummer. I'm thinking about trying to make it right by covering her costs for trying to get back. I don't like the feeling I have an unpaid debt. Any feedback from the forum?

Lessons learned:

1) Watch out for girls under the influence.

2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).

3) Be careful how you communicate with your provider lest your messages be misinterpreted.

4) Never assume your provider is none-the-worse off if you have to cancel (my bad).

Stay Safe.[/QUOTE]I might suggest that you haven't learned enough lessons in your time in the hobby. Some are inconvenient; you tried to shoehorn an appointment into a tiny time slot and are forlorn because your ATF dumped you.

This can be a very dangerous hobby and your chronicle of your misadventures shows that you are often in over your head. You think that Amber is 21; she has a lengthy list of bad reports and has been a provider for years. You paid 400 to a provider off of EB / Listcrawler who works out of a junkie-laden motel. Sure, lots of SPs work out of such places, but you appear to be ill-equipped for that crowd. You don't appear to have the street-smarts or horse-sense. You don't know that party-friendly is using boy and girl, not smoking dope. Jeebus Christ!

I do a lot of figurative facepalms when reading your reports. If you plan to stay in this hobby I suggest that you move up a tier or two in price. Find providers with websites or use agencies. Eros Detroit is probably a much better option for you. EB and STG have bargains as far as providers go, but they also have a plurality of providers working out of rougher locations with rougher characters around. You seem to be pushing your luck.

[QUOTE=FunnyBoner;5541667]Don't fall for the BS. She's just trying to get $ out of you without working for it. It's a play.

Just give her a month off of work, then try again with her and I'll bet she'll have no problem seeing you again. If she even remembers what happened, I'd be surprised.

Just my. 02.[/QUOTE]It's his idea to pay her more money (that she paid her driver) so that she will bang him again. She didn't ask. This is his facacta idea.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5541886]It's his idea to pay her more money (that she paid her driver) so that she will bang him again. She didn't ask. This is his facacta idea.[/QUOTE]No, she didn't ask him, she guilted him into considering it. But yeah, a facacta idea. She didn't drop everything. And I didn't know you could pay extra and get a super-speedy Uber. I had to ghost a girl last week because my time window closed and the little Mrs. started calling. At first the girl was pissed, then said "oh well, life happens" and we've texted a couple times since to re-schedule later this week.

[QUOTE=ArmySexy77;5541449]What were the rates?

.[/QUOTE]$200 / Hr + $30 for GFE / DFK which she never really followed through on and didn't collect on.

[QUOTE=LotharioPK;5540945]I learned a LOT about the hobby on my latest (mis) adventure. First, in my date with Amber I learned about the joys of a young spinner and the sorrows of drug use and incompatible genital proportions. Then I learned about the risks in scheduling yourself too tightly and the importance of careful communication.

After my date with Amber came (or didn't come?) to an unsatisfactory conclusion, I was in a bad way. I had taken a tadalafil (Cialis) to assure that the purple helmeted warrior did his duty and I had major wood and a lot of frustration. I contacted Delilah, one of my ATFs, for a relief date even though I was pushing my available time window by that point (little head was firmly in control by that point). What happened next can best be described as either a comedy of errors or a tragedy of good intentions. I erased the text thread when I cleaned up the phone later so I don't have the exact conversation but it was something like:

Me 1:00 Hey, can you see me soon?

Her 1:05 OK.

Me 1:07 See you in 15-20 min.

Her 1:25 Oh no! I missed your last message! If I don't answer right away next time call me. I'm at Walmart. I can be there in 30 minutes.

Me 1:26 OK, I'll get close by and wait.

Me 1:35 I'm 3 minutes away. Let me know when you're ready.

At this point I get a call that closes my time window and I have to bail. I felt bad, but I figured she's be no worse off than if I hadn't texted for an appt in the first place. So I text:

Me 1:45 Crap. Life intrudes. My time window has closed. We'll have to try again for another day.

I figured that would be the end of it, but as I'm driving a few minutes later I get a text message and then a phone call from Delilah telling me in no uncertain term what an ahole I am for making another date when she was hurrying, cutting her trip short and paying more money to get back faster (apparently she doesn't drive). I asked her why she thought I was making another date and she said she said I sent a message (my 1:35 message above) telling another girl I would be coming in. I tried to explain that the 1:35 message WAS to her and I WAS 3 minutes from her hotel before my window closed early, but she's not having it so far. I may be down an ATF. Bummer. I'm thinking about trying to make it right by covering her costs for trying to get back. I don't like the feeling I have an unpaid debt. Any feedback from the forum?

Lessons learned:

1) Watch out for girls under the influence.

2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).[/QUOTE]1) Watch out for girls under the influence.

Dude, you couldn't tell from the photos she was a serious addict? Hell, you may as well assume they are addicts. Few are not. Once they start hitting their sauces, literally while they are sitting there with you, just forget it. They're too gorked-out to give anything more than lackluster.

2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).

Definitely. Everyone knows how long it takes for them to reply sometimes to initial contact. If they aren't ready right then and there you can almost guarantee an hour or more delay.

3) Be careful how you communicate with your provider lest your messages be misinterpreted.

Definitely, again. Leave nothing to chance. Be specific. Even if some review says they did this or that don't assume it's on the menu for you too. Ask.

4) Never assume your provider is none-the-worse off if you have to cancel (my bad).

Piffle. They wouldn't give you a 2nd thought if they got a better offer.

[QUOTE=YogiBaba420;5541001]There's no way she's 21! She has to be at least 30+.[/QUOTE]While I freely admit that the older I get the harder it is to pin down the exact ages of people younger than I am, I don't think I could be off by 8 years. Her ad says 22 and if the Amber I saw (check the links) is older than 25, I'd be shocked. In my limited experience the girls will definitely soft-pedal their age but the real lying doesn't usually start until they turn 40 and are 39 in their ads for years. Nikki 38? C'Mon. Man!

[QUOTE=Passenger;5541871]I might suggest that you haven't learned enough lessons in your time in the hobby. Some are inconvenient; you tried to shoehorn an appointment into a tiny time slot and are forlorn because your ATF dumped you.

This can be a very dangerous hobby and your chronicle of your misadventures shows that you are often in over your head. You think that Amber is 21; she has a lengthy list of bad reports and has been a provider for years. You paid 400 to a provider off of EB / Listcrawler who works out of a junkie-laden motel. Sure, lots of SPs work out of such places, but you appear to be ill-equipped for that crowd. You don't appear to have the street-smarts or horse-sense. You don't know that party-friendly is using boy and girl, not smoking dope. Jeebus Christ!

I do a lot of figurative facepalms when reading your reports. If you plan to stay in this hobby I suggest that you move up a tier or two in price. Find providers with websites or use agencies. Eros Detroit is probably a much better option for you. EB and STG have bargains as far as providers go, but they also have a plurality of providers working out of rougher locations with rougher characters around. You seem to be pushing your luck.[/QUOTE]Wow, I feel "taken to the woodshed"! I agree I've lived a pretty sheltered life and am not equipped for the really rough areas which is why I have tried hard to avoid them. I think that you think I saw the Amber from Cece-Land down at Tireman ("Teirman") and Wyoming, but it was not. Check the links again. I personally can't envision going down into the city proper to visit a provider. I'm sorry if I cause you personal angst, but I am not in a position to drop $400 every time I sprout a woody, so I guess I'll just have to soldier on with the value-priced girls and learn more lessons. I just try to share what I have learned with the forum in hopes of entertaining a bit and helping someone avoid my mistakes and in the hope that I will get pearls of wisdom from other mongers. Look at what I just learned from you about "party friendly"! What did I learn? The wording wasa bit vague, but thanks! If you want to share a list of girls and / or places I should avoid with my limited street-smarts and horse-sense I'll gladly thank you.

[QUOTE=LotharioPK;5541997]Wow, I feel "taken to the woodshed"! I agree I've lived a pretty sheltered life and am not equipped for the really rough areas which is why I have tried hard to avoid them. I think that you think I saw the Amber from Cece-Land down at Tireman ("Teirman") and Wyoming, but it was not. Check the links again. I personally can't envision going down into the city proper to visit a provider. I'm sorry if I cause you personal angst, but I am not in a position to drop $400 every time I sprout a woody, so I guess I'll just have to soldier on with the value-priced girls and learn more lessons. I just try to share what I have learned with the forum in hopes of entertaining a bit and helping someone avoid my mistakes and in the hope that I will get pearls of wisdom from other mongers. Look at what I just learned from you about "party friendly"! What did I learn? The wording wasa bit vague, but thanks! If you want to share a list of girls and / or places I should avoid with my limited street-smarts and horse-sense I'll gladly thank you.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. You and I are very similar. No Detroit for me. However with that said I have been to Cece's house. It isn't that bad of an area. I felt ok, and I think Cece is a nice person and have had good experiences with her. I do NOT think the "other" Amber is safe-something about her and how she moves around Detroit bothers me.

On another note, I've been to see "Tiny but Tuff", at the "I-94 and Moross" exit. THAT is a bit rough area. Got there and parked on the street next to what I thought was her address turns out it this others guys house and he wants to STAB me! So I left, went around the block and found her house about 6 houses down. Guy was gone, date went OK, but I won't return. Too far to drive and crap neighborhood. Even with my hoopdy SUV, it didn't feel right.

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[QUOTE=LotharioPK;5541980]While I freely admit that the older I get the harder it is to pin down the exact ages of people younger than I am, I don't think I could be off by 8 years. Her ad says 22 and if the Amber I saw (check the links) is older than 25, I'd be shocked. In my limited experience the girls will definitely soft-pedal their age but the real lying doesn't usually start until they turn 40 and are 39 in their ads for years. Nikki 38? C'Mon. Man![/QUOTE]Saying you haven't spent time in Asian massage parlors without saying you haven't spent time in AMPs.Its easy to be off 10-12 years.

As for being taken to the woodshed, you were, but rightfully so. This is a great example of Dunning-Kruger. Google it. Stay alive. Stay healthy.

[QUOTE=Sid63;5542232]I agree with you. You and I are very similar. No Detroit for me. However with that said I have been to Cece's house. It isn't that bad of an area. I felt ok, and I think Cece is a nice person and have had good experiences with her. I do NOT think the "other" Amber is safe-something about her and how she moves around Detroit bothers me.

On another note, I've been to see "Tiny but Tuff", at the "I-94 and Moross" exit. THAT is a bit rough area. Got there and parked on the street next to what I thought was her address turns out it this others guys house and he wants to STAB me! So I left, went around the block and found her house about 6 houses down. Guy was gone, date went OK, but I won't return. Too far to drive and crap neighborhood. Even with my hoopdy SUV, it didn't feel right.

[URL]https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/67080014[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. Tiny But Tuff was on my radar. How could she not be with those pics? I'll reconsider my list. See! He CAN be taught!

[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5542233]Saying you haven't spent time in Asian massage parlors without saying you haven't spent time in AMPs.Its easy to be off 10-12 years.

As for being taken to the woodshed, you were, but rightfully so. This is a great example of Dunning-Kruger. Google it. Stay alive. Stay healthy.[/QUOTE]I COULD be wrong, but I've seen Drea who is 34 and this Amber was quite a bit younger in my non-expert estimation. She is much closer in physical age to Layna (before she fell apart) who is 26/27. I try to only see girls with a substantial history and reviews and in areas I am comfortable going to. Anything else I should look for?

[QUOTE=LotharioPK;5540775]I saw Amber (my first young spinner) in a value-priced hotel in Southfield (hint: it has crimson shingles) on a recent weekday afternoon. It took her over an hour to respond to my first message, but after that comms were fairly good. I dropped the donation and we got comfortable.

She was generally pleasant to be with but she was so stoned / exhausted she couldn't set a very enthusiastic vibe for the session. She has a kickin' bod and her small size and micro-titties were a novel and kind of exciting change-of-pace. She is a spinner with a tiny 5'0" 90# super tight body. Smallest and tightest I've ever had. Almost flat chest with really perky nipples. Nice voice and I think she has a cute face, but she was so stoned / exhausted it was difficult to tell. Her eyes were never more than half open. Her teeth were a little sketchy, but difficult to see because she doesn't open her mouth too much to smile or speak.

I convinced her to DFK and she agreed but never really got past a brief LFK. She asked if I was "party friendly" and being naive about such things I assumed she meant pot so I told her I would not indulge but didn't mind if she did. The next thing I know, she is blazing up using a tiny pipe with tiny white pellets. I was so surprised I didn't know what to do so I just rolled with it. She smoked at least 3-4 times during our hour. The environment was also not conducive to a good time because she kept checking her phone during the appt and the TV was blaring some dumb show about rehabbing vacation properties. We started with an only-OK CBJ during which I could feel her teeth a bit and I'd swear she was experiencing "micro sleep" for a few seconds every now-and-again. The highlight of the date for me was a 15 min DATY on the prettiest, tightest little pussy I have ever worked on. Amber seemed to appreciate it too. Several times. I got her up on all fours for some doggie and she almost jumped out of her skin when I put-in. It turns out I was too big. I couldn't drive in or back out without hurting her andI'm not into pain. I've had other girls tell me I am big but I always thought they were stroking my ego. Maybe I am too big for spinners that have not birthed. Bummer. We went back to the so-so CBJ but the mood was pretty much dead by that point. Ran out of time. Didn't nut. Won't repeat. She could be great for more normal sized guys if she could clean up her candy usage and get some rest.

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[URL]https://sumosear.ch/phone/313-677-2492[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm frankly amazed you got to do anything with her before a boyfriend / pimp came rolling up to kick you out. That girl's a complete piece of shit.

[QUOTE=Johnson45;5538197]She quoted me 400/ hr last weekend. Please tell me you didn't pay this or the half hour equivalent?[/QUOTE]Sadly, yes I dropped $400. Never found a willing provider for a trip to Greece. They say ok on the phone and then wave off once they see what I plan on pushing through then back door. I waited until she fully appreciated what was being asked. Once she said she was in, I paid. And I am still paying from the rash on my ass after rolling around with that nasty ho.

Does anyone have any intel on Dr. Chloe in Melvindale?

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