Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

[QUOTE=AlIngus;5678084]She hit me up yesterday morning offering $150. I've seen her a few times, already bored so I didn't take her up on it. Imagine I could have talked her down to $100 easily.

Totally GFE as someone else mentioned. As far as demons, I haven't seen scabs or any other obvious signs but her life is spiraling downhill fairly quickly so something is going on.[/QUOTE]Saw her a few weeks ago and had a great time. Menu is pretty open. No makeup when I saw her but she still resembled her pics. She definitely needs to get things under control. She is a sweet girl and has a decent paying job but just can't seem to make ends meet.

[QUOTE=Grievous2;5678383]Saw her a few weeks ago and had a great time. Menu is pretty open. No makeup when I saw her but she still resembled her pics. She definitely needs to get things under control. She is a sweet girl and has a decent paying job but just can't seem to make ends meet.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't mind paying her a visit. Unfortunately, I don't have my seeking membership anymore. Decided to take a break from there.

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This is the reason many of these girls go this route. Add it up. Manicure and pedicure with tip $125 every week. Massage with tip $75 twice a month. Hair stylist $125 every month. Coochie wax with tip $75 every month. New Friday night outfit every week $100. Add it up, she's spending more than $1,000 every month to keep up with her Tik-Tok / Instagram crowd. That's her entire paycheck. Credit cards are maxed out. Living on ramen between m / g dates. For me, that's a one-and-done because I hate fixing the same problem over and over.

[QUOTE=Grievous2;5678383]Saw her a few weeks ago and had a great time. Menu is pretty open. No makeup when I saw her but she still resembled her pics. She definitely needs to get things under control. She is a sweet girl and has a decent paying job but just can't seem to make ends meet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OrdinaryJohn;5668638]She is definitely a scammer. Ask me how I know LOL.[/QUOTE]I have seen her few times at her place. Enjoyed her a lot. But saw reports of her stealing, so stopped seeing.

[QUOTE=Grievous2;5678383]Saw her a few weeks ago and had a great time. Menu is pretty open. No makeup when I saw her but she still resembled her pics. She definitely needs to get things under control. She is a sweet girl and has a decent paying job but just can't seem to make ends meet.[/QUOTE]I'm sure she is a pro.

[QUOTE=Hal1957;5681265]This is the reason many of these girls go this route. Add it up. Manicure and pedicure with tip $125 every week. Massage with tip $75 twice a month. Hair stylist $125 every month. Coochie wax with tip $75 every month. New Friday night outfit every week $100. Add it up, she's spending more than $1,000 every month to keep up with her Tik-Tok / Instagram crowd. That's her entire paycheck. Credit cards are maxed out. Living on ramen between m / g dates. For me, that's a one-and-done because I hate fixing the same problem over and over.[/QUOTE]This, its amazing how dumb many of these girls are. If they arent addicts they are just living above their means and are willing to sell their soul for it.

99% of these girls come from lower class families or were raised by single moms and don't know how to manage their money. Our country is in big trouble financially!

[B]Profile:[/B] [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/575d6f8b-722d-44de-ac49-bbd793069041[/URL].

Easy to contact but no longer looks anything like her photos. YMMV but I would not repeat. Very similar to a skip the games experience. Seniors or members who post details on other sugar babies / escorts can message me for details.

[B]Profile:[/B] [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/53845842-f122-4193-9b74-407273bf8acb[/URL].

Messaged a ton, sent verification pics, but then ghosted before meet and greet. Time waster. Or one of you lucky assholes got to her first and is now pumping her full of cum.

Got the word the other day at SA is raising it's subscription rates again in January. I started it was like $29 then $39, $59, $79 to $99, so I expect it's going up to at least $119. I think it's because lots of mongers playing the game like me. I pay for a month and and collect all the numbers I can and work them till the pickins are slim and activate again for a fresh crop and sometimes you find a true keeper. More and more you have to wade through the gamers to find a serious player, long for the day when the site was MILFs and needy collage girls.

I usually get on seeking arrangements every couple years. I've always had success, but like everything else these girls come and go. It's difficult finding someone who can host, but they are out there. My advice is always treat them with respect and don't be afraid to go out and meet them in public first to calm their nerves, if that's what they want.

I've had a lot of luck with girls in their mid-20's just wanting some extra money. But eventually either I can't live up to the financial responsibility or they go and get a boyfriend or a relationship. But I've definitely met some of the hottest women I've ever slept with on that site.

Like others have said, I usually sign up for 30 days, try to make as many contacts as I can and then go from there.

Years ago I was on adult friend finder and Ashley Madison, but I haven't given either of those sites a try in well over five years. Not sure if there's better options out there or not.

I'm not a big fan of putting apps on my phone, but my friend says he's found a lot of women on tinder. He does not hide the fact that he's married and said he never has problems. He meets married women on there too. That's a little too risky for me.

Have anyone experienced this nerd. Pm me or reply to post with your experiences I am curious as she looks like pro.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ff8e0ef0-4ca7-4e4a-b957-0b4541b21e43[/URL]

[QUOTE=AdamEve7;5704167]Have anyone experienced this nerd. Pm me or reply to post with your experiences I am curious as she looks like pro.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ff8e0ef0-4ca7-4e4a-b957-0b4541b21e43[/URL][/QUOTE]Hate to break the bad news but I wouldn't be surprised if half are bona fide escorts, 25 percent close to full time sugar babies seeing 2-4 dudes a day, leaving 25 percent who are either just curious and kicking tires, college girls, picture and video sellers and true SBs looking for guys to buy them stuff. I've been on and off that site your years and SA changed for the worse once the feds shut down back page and made it impossible for agencies to survive. Once that happened 3-4 years ago, all the working girls and pimps went to SA and doubled their pricing.

[QUOTE=RyanBB;5708392]Hate to break the bad news but I wouldn't be surprised if half are bona fide escorts, 25 percent close to full time sugar babies seeing 2-4 dudes a day, leaving 25 percent who are either just curious and kicking tires, college girls, picture and video sellers and true SBs looking for guys to buy them stuff. I've been on and off that site your years and SA changed for the worse once the feds shut down back page and made it impossible for agencies to survive. Once that happened 3-4 years ago, all the working girls and pimps went to SA and doubled their pricing.[/QUOTE]That's very generalized overall opinion, I was looking info on this one specifically, thanks anyways.

Working out well for me== had a provider I was seeing about 2 times a month for at 2 years-- tripped all my triggers. She mentioned she had recovered custody of her 2 kids and wanted a "real" place for them, not motels. We worked out a deal 5 months ago- I'm paying her rent and get 4-5 all nighters a month-- and yes I know this is not an exclusive arrangement, she told me from the start she had 2 others regulars she would not cut off, which means there are more. Am I naive? Probably. Do I get everything I want without shopping? Yes. Is what I pay for 4-5 all nighters roughly the same as 6 1 hr visits? Yes.

Bottom line I get everything I want and she is essentially out of the "business" with her kids working a 40 hr job and supplementing with a few of her former regulars (probably doing pretty well financially).

Now go ahead and kick me!!

I see no reason to kick you. 4 or 5 all nighters a month for paying her rent isn't that bad of a deal really. You are getting a real GFE experience and probably getting to hit that 2 or 3 times during the night. I only concern is she may get attached to you? But since you aren't the only one, maybe that isn't a concern. You say for the price of 6 one hour visits? You are getting a lot more than that if you get to stay longer and cuddle and kiss over night and maybe a little morning nookie to boot?

[QUOTE=DogMan75;5711232]Working out well for me== had a provider I was seeing about 2 times a month for at 2 years-- tripped all my triggers. She mentioned she had recovered custody of her 2 kids and wanted a "real" place for them, not motels. We worked out a deal 5 months ago- I'm paying her rent and get 4-5 all nighters a month-- and yes I know this is not an exclusive arrangement, she told me from the start she had 2 others regulars she would not cut off, which means there are more. Am I naive? Probably. Do I get everything I want without shopping? Yes. Is what I pay for 4-5 all nighters roughly the same as 6 1 hr visits? Yes.

Bottom line I get everything I want and she is essentially out of the "business" with her kids working a 40 hr job and supplementing with a few of her former regulars (probably doing pretty well financially).

Now go ahead and kick me!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DogMan75;5711232]Working out well for me== had a provider I was seeing about 2 times a month for at 2 years-- tripped all my triggers. She mentioned she had recovered custody of her 2 kids and wanted a "real" place for them, not motels. We worked out a deal 5 months ago- I'm paying her rent and get 4-5 all nighters a month-- and yes I know this is not an exclusive arrangement, she told me from the start she had 2 others regulars she would not cut off, which means there are more. Am I naive? Probably. Do I get everything I want without shopping? Yes. Is what I pay for 4-5 all nighters roughly the same as 6 1 hr visits? Yes.

Bottom line I get everything I want and she is essentially out of the "business" with her kids working a 40 hr job and supplementing with a few of her former regulars (probably doing pretty well financially).

Now go ahead and kick me!![/QUOTE]No sir. This is what a SB / SD relationship really is. Not this PPM BS. Pay some bills, help out with groceries, get the car fixed, take them shopping, etc.

You're doing just fine.

I had the same setup with a cute 20 something young lady before COVID. I paid her rent for 6 months ($850 per month) and I got a key to her place. She gave it to me. I damn near lived over there. .

All GFE. Never brought a condom and since I took care of the not have kids thing years ago, everything was perfect. She ended up moving to the midwest, but that was by far the best arrangement I have ever had. I would love to find another one like that. So No KICKING from me my brother. I get it and enjoy the fun.

[QUOTE=DogMan75;5711232]Working out well for me== had a provider I was seeing about 2 times a month for at 2 years-- tripped all my triggers. She mentioned she had recovered custody of her 2 kids and wanted a "real" place for them, not motels. We worked out a deal 5 months ago- I'm paying her rent and get 4-5 all nighters a month-- and yes I know this is not an exclusive arrangement, she told me from the start she had 2 others regulars she would not cut off, which means there are more. Am I naive? Probably. Do I get everything I want without shopping? Yes. Is what I pay for 4-5 all nighters roughly the same as 6 1 hr visits? Yes.

Bottom line I get everything I want and she is essentially out of the "business" with her kids working a 40 hr job and supplementing with a few of her former regulars (probably doing pretty well financially).

Now go ahead and kick me!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DogMan75;5711232]Working out well for me== had a provider I was seeing about 2 times a month for at 2 years-- tripped all my triggers. She mentioned she had recovered custody of her 2 kids and wanted a "real" place for them, not motels. We worked out a deal 5 months ago- I'm paying her rent and get 4-5 all nighters a month-- and yes I know this is not an exclusive arrangement, she told me from the start she had 2 others regulars she would not cut off, which means there are more. Am I naive? Probably. Do I get everything I want without shopping? Yes. Is what I pay for 4-5 all nighters roughly the same as 6 1 hr visits? Yes.

Bottom line I get everything I want and she is essentially out of the "business" with her kids working a 40 hr job and supplementing with a few of her former regulars (probably doing pretty well financially).

Now go ahead and kick me!![/QUOTE]No kicking. Thats how a sugar baby arrangement works. Although there is some sort of a "low volume" expectation with a sugar baby, for example - A younger woman with a boyfriend her own age and then a discrete older sugar daddy. So she's only fucking two guys most of the time.

I had a similar deal a few years ago with a grad student. Very mature for her age. She had enough of the boyish bullshit from the guys she knew from school. She had two sugar daddies, me and another older guy. She would occasionally hook up with a young guy and then tell me about it. I'm somewhat of an amateur detective and she apparently was truthful with me from what I could find. I would bang her every Friday afternoon (I'm off work then) and the other would bang her every Wednesday (he was off work then). After about a year of this, we actually set up a DP with myself and her other sugar daddy (she loved greek.). The other guy and I didn't mesh well so it was a one time thing, but still fun. The whole deal ended when she got her masters and took a job far away. Still send an occasional text at holidays or her birthday. She basically had me paying her apt rent and the other man paying her car payment. I thought she was being very smart about the whole thing as student w / o a job but with a great body and sexual skills. Good for her. She makes great money now and doesn't sugar, but she has told me that she is hooked on dating guys at least ten years older than herself. Says they have their shit together and treat her better. I believe it.

So it happens. Its working out for you. Enjoy.

I expected to be taken to task for my arrangement-- but all the replies look at it like I did-- All the working girls I liked left the business or the area except the one I SD now-- I got tired of being disappointed with a new girl 4 times out of 5 and leaving totally unsatisfied for $150-250. Now its $1100 a month plus a motel bill every Monday night (why a motel bill when I'm renting her a house? She insulates her two kids) and no danger of not getting there 3-4 times (counting one in the morning). Plus I am dominant and she is now comfortable letting her submissive side out in a less professional environment.

It was interesting to see the responses.

If you paid her $1100 just to fuck her one time, that would be way too much. But you are fucking her several times a month and staying overnight. That is an entire different experience. If I had the money I would go for that myself. There is no reason to take you to task for that.

[QUOTE=DogMan75;5713053]I expected to be taken to task for my arrangement-- but all the replies look at it like I did-- All the working girls I liked left the business or the area except the one I SD now-- I got tired of being disappointed with a new girl 4 times out of 5 and leaving totally unsatisfied for $150-250. Now its $1100 a month plus a motel bill every Monday night (why a motel bill when I'm renting her a house? She insulates her two kids) and no danger of not getting there 3-4 times (counting one in the morning). Plus I am dominant and she is now comfortable letting her submissive side out in a less professional environment.

It was interesting to see the responses.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DogMan75;5713053]I expected to be taken to task for my arrangement-- but all the replies look at it like I did-- All the working girls I liked left the business or the area except the one I SD now-- I got tired of being disappointed with a new girl 4 times out of 5 and leaving totally unsatisfied for $150-250. Now its $1100 a month plus a motel bill every Monday night (why a motel bill when I'm renting her a house? She insulates her two kids) and no danger of not getting there 3-4 times (counting one in the morning). Plus I am dominant and she is now comfortable letting her submissive side out in a less professional environment.

It was interesting to see the responses.[/QUOTE]If I was a younger guy, I'd take that deal any day of the week.

[QUOTE=DogMan75;5713053]I expected to be taken to task for my arrangement-- but all the replies look at it like I did-- All the working girls I liked left the business or the area except the one I SD now-- I got tired of being disappointed with a new girl 4 times out of 5 and leaving totally unsatisfied for $150-250. Now its $1100 a month plus a motel bill every Monday night (why a motel bill when I'm renting her a house? She insulates her two kids) and no danger of not getting there 3-4 times (counting one in the morning). Plus I am dominant and she is now comfortable letting her submissive side out in a less professional environment.

It was interesting to see the responses.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a smart business deal to me. Every time you meet a new girl you're rolling the dice so you more or less de-risked the situation.

I saw her a few weeks ago at her place, and to me it was the best GFE ever! (for a first time visit) and it seemed like she was having fun too.

But now she's not answering my messages on SA and I do not have any other way to contact her.

Have any of you guys seen her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6cdf56af-997a-4d0c-b8a0-91bdf53adb6d[/URL]

[QUOTE=MyAsianFix;5714800]I saw her a few weeks ago at her place, and to me it was the best GFE ever! (for a first time visit) and it seemed like she was having fun too.

But now she's not answering my messages on SA and I do not have any other way to contact her.

Have any of you guys seen her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6cdf56af-997a-4d0c-b8a0-91bdf53adb6d[/URL][/QUOTE]Doesn't look like she has signed in a while, so she is not reading site messages. Could had been just in town for a short stay, or on the site for a quick atm withdraw. Who knows what these chicks game is anymore.

[QUOTE=MrJd1986;5676703]Any of you fine gentleman have any info on this lady - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f837c7f4-bad6-4a73-92d7-1cd7f81ca14b[/URL].

Browsing SA and favorited her. Considering signing up to read the message she sent me.[/QUOTE]She's kinky. We talked about things she was into. She was able to meet the same night but I told her I only do 200 max the first time she replied that she's not the one for me LOL.

Anyone seen her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/11591c68-8cc7-4de7-ac2d-18ca161d4bd4[/URL]

Be careful. SA banned me 1 week in after activating my account again. Said I was offering money for sex. I've been on / off that site for 5 years and never had an issue. I've always legitimately looked for real SB, never pros. Only offer to help with bills, etc. Nothing else. Thankfully I only paid a 1 month membership. Otherwise I'd be really pissed.

[QUOTE=Newguy72;5717796]Be careful. SA banned me 1 week in after activating my account again. Said I was offering money for sex. I've been on / off that site for 5 years and never had an issue. I've always legitimately looked for real SB, never pros. Only offer to help with bills, etc. Nothing else. Thankfully I only paid a 1 month membership. Otherwise I'd be really pissed.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me. Just email them and ask for a courtesy reinstatement.

Anyone spoke with her? We were supposed to meet and then she flaked.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/725e1af3-0fa1-4f22-9d7c-7cbfb3aa0b8d[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ec0e1d77-b581-4129-a41a-576dfc18889d[/URL]

[QUOTE=Emjay;5723997]Anyone spoke with her? We were supposed to meet and then she flaked.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/725e1af3-0fa1-4f22-9d7c-7cbfb3aa0b8d[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Newguy72;5717796]Be careful. SA banned me 1 week in after activating my account again. Said I was offering money for sex. I've been on / off that site for 5 years and never had an issue. I've always legitimately looked for real SB, never pros. Only offer to help with bills, etc. Nothing else. Thankfully I only paid a 1 month membership. Otherwise I'd be really pissed.[/QUOTE]I gave up on seeking after my ban wasnt worth the hassle and I couldn't pull anything worthwhile.

[QUOTE=CaptCipher;5724149]I gave up on seeking after my ban wasnt worth the hassle and I couldn't pull anything worthwhile.[/QUOTE]Seeking is a joke now. Fake profiles, girls that work as dating app girls, scammers.

Anyone have any experience with her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4c7b8238-555c-45d6-8e0b-5eeeef96028f[/URL]

[QUOTE=CaptCipher;5724149]I gave up on seeking after my ban wasnt worth the hassle and I couldn't pull anything worthwhile.[/QUOTE]My reinstatement was denied. I'm done with them. I met probably a dozen women off SA since I joined in 2015.4 of which ended up being long term. Actually met a married female off there that didn't even want anything in return. Met her about 4-5 times for hotel rendezvous. I apologize if it was one of your wives 😂.

The 4 long term were all in their 20's and either grad students or young professionals living downtown. All were great setups. They weren't pros and I swear every time I saw them it was like hanging with an ex girlfriend from my younger days. I loved them telling me about their tinder hookups, etc. One even had a long term out of town boyfriend. Nothing hotter than banging out a 23 yr old bareback on Friday morning, then seeing photos of her on Facebook Friday night hanging out with her boyfriend 😂.

But the last 2 times I signed up for a paid membership, you could tell things had changed. A lot more pros, and a lot of scammers / bots. Some want paid for online bullshit, etc. Probably best to part ways with that site at this point. They did me a favor.

Thinking of trying my luck with Ashley Madison or AFF again. Haven't been on those in years. Had some good luck when me and a friend teamed up looking for women looking for MFM threesome, but it's tough as a single. You'd be surprised how many women secretly want 2 men at the same time. It was a goldmine there for a while.

[QUOTE=Newguy72;5726002]My reinstatement was denied. I'm done with them. I met probably a dozen women off SA since I joined in 2015.4 of which ended up being long term. Actually met a married female off there that didn't even want anything in return. Met her about 4-5 times for hotel rendezvous. I apologize if it was one of your wives 😂.

The 4 long term were all in their 20's and either grad students or young professionals living downtown. All were great setups. They weren't pros and I swear every time I saw them it was like hanging with an ex girlfriend from my younger days. I loved them telling me about their tinder hookups, etc. One even had a long term out of town boyfriend. Nothing hotter than banging out a 23 yr old bareback on Friday morning, then seeing photos of her on Facebook Friday night hanging out with her boyfriend 😂.

But the last 2 times I signed up for a paid membership, you could tell things had changed. A lot more pros, and a lot of scammers / bots. Some want paid for online bullshit, etc. Probably best to part ways with that site at this point. They did me a favor.

Thinking of trying my luck with Ashley Madison or AFF again. Haven't been on those in years. Had some good luck when me and a friend teamed up looking for women looking for MFM threesome, but it's tough as a single. You'd be surprised how many women secretly want 2 men at the same time. It was a goldmine there for a while.[/QUOTE]I've been a paid member on Ashley Madison for years and I have nothing to show for it.

[QUOTE=HaydenBerg;5725980]Anyone have any experience with her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4c7b8238-555c-45d6-8e0b-5eeeef96028f[/URL][/QUOTE]She initially wanted 500. I offered 350 which she accepted with the understanding that she would spend the night for that amount. I don't do overnight so that was not an issue. She also wanted a current STD test. In the end, we did not meet.

I am going to private message you if you don't mind.

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;5726218]She initially wanted 500. I offered 350 which she accepted with the understanding that she would spend the night for that amount. I don't do overnight so that was not an issue. She also wanted a current STD test. In the end, we did not meet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Newguy72;5726002]My reinstatement was denied. I'm done with them. I met probably a dozen women off SA since I joined in 2015.4 of which ended up being long term. Actually met a married female off there that didn't even want anything in return. Met her about 4-5 times for hotel rendezvous. I apologize if it was one of your wives 😂.

The 4 long term were all in their 20's and either grad students or young professionals living downtown. All were great setups. They weren't pros and I swear every time I saw them it was like hanging with an ex girlfriend from my younger days. I loved them telling me about their tinder hookups, etc. One even had a long term out of town boyfriend. Nothing hotter than banging out a 23 yr old bareback on Friday morning, then seeing photos of her on Facebook Friday night hanging out with her boyfriend 😂.

But the last 2 times I signed up for a paid membership, you could tell things had changed. A lot more pros, and a lot of scammers / bots. Some want paid for online bullshit, etc. Probably best to part ways with that site at this point. They did me a favor.

Thinking of trying my luck with Ashley Madison or AFF again. Haven't been on those in years. Had some good luck when me and a friend teamed up looking for women looking for MFM threesome, but it's tough as a single. You'd be surprised how many women secretly want 2 men at the same time. It was a goldmine there for a while.[/QUOTE]AM and AFF produced nothing for me. SA is somewhat okay if you network and get some leads or have lots of time to pick the flyshit out of the pepper, but its basically over with as a reliable source of girl next door or neglected wife pussy.

I do wonder what will be the next SA. There will be women looking for discrete dick and women looking for dick attached to a wallet. Always has been and always will. But, where will they go next? What new site or app or social media conduit will they embrace? Hmmm.

[QUOTE=JustMikey;5726705]AM and AFF produced nothing for me. SA is somewhat okay if you network and get some leads or have lots of time to pick the flyshit out of the pepper, but its basically over with as a reliable source of girl next door or neglected wife pussy.

I do wonder what will be the next SA. There will be women looking for discrete dick and women looking for dick attached to a wallet. Always has been and always will. But, where will they go next? What new site or app or social media conduit will they embrace? Hmmm.[/QUOTE]With great success. Met three married nymphos in a matter of months. After AM was hacked later that year, it went to shit. It's never recovered. Don't waste your money.