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It is also just how we all perceive value. If I had Bezos money I still wouldn't be spending what some of you guys spend on a provider it just would never happen. In my book no woman on the planet is worth what some of you guys say you spend. Even if I had billions I wouldn't be giving a provider like 700 dollars.
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[QUOTE=SeattleMassage;5799686]It is also just how we all perceive value. If I had Bezos money I still wouldn't be spending what some of you guys spend on a provider it just would never happen. In my book no woman on the planet is worth what some of you guys say you spend. Even if I had billions I wouldn't be giving a provider like 700 dollars.[/QUOTE]I've paid hookers low, medium, and high rates. There isn't any correlation to quality. It's always a crapshoot.
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Discretion
[QUOTE=SeattleMassage;5799686]It is also just how we all perceive value. If I had Bezos money I still wouldn't be spending what some of you guys spend on a provider it just would never happen. In my book no woman on the planet is worth what some of you guys say you spend. Even if I had billions I wouldn't be giving a provider like 700 dollars.[/QUOTE]A lot of these girls are horrible blabbermouths. And Seattle isn't exactly a big city. I've had sessions with girls where they spoke at length at the other guys they'd seen, and it wouldn't have been hard to identify who they were.
This is one reason I almost never pick playmates on STG or TNA or any of those. I also stopped seeing one very good agency in Seattle because their girls were a little too talkative.
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[QUOTE=SeattleMassage;5799686]It is also just how we all perceive value. If I had Bezos money I still wouldn't be spending what some of you guys spend on a provider it just would never happen. In my book no woman on the planet is worth what some of you guys say you spend. Even if I had billions I wouldn't be giving a provider like 700 dollars.[/QUOTE]LOL, I have a friend that is a multi millionaire and he almost ALWAYS seeks out the cheapest provider. He refuses to pay over $200. The only time I would pay way up is for a once in a life time experience. Say a BBFS with a hot fresh young porn star in a filmed session for me to go back and watch and enjoy. My top end would be say $300 for an hour, and part of that would really have to involve a connection with the girl. Some of my best sessions included non sex time in the hour just cuddling and talking.
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Lol
[QUOTE=SeattleMassage;5799686]It is also just how we all perceive value. If I had Bezos money I still wouldn't be spending what some of you guys spend on a provider it just would never happen. In my book no woman on the planet is worth what some of you guys say you spend. Even if I had billions I wouldn't be giving a provider like 700 dollars.[/QUOTE]Thats how they stay RICH, by minimizing cost. Rich cheap bastards LOL.
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[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5799808]LOL, I have a friend that is a multi millionaire and he almost ALWAYS seeks out the cheapest provider. He refuses to pay over $200. [/QUOTE]"Multi-Millionaire" is table-stakes in this area. Redfin has Bellevue's median home price at $1.25 million. The average tech salary in this area gets you there in under a decade even with reasonable living expenses.
His dumpster-diving hobby sounds like a personal kink. You can't save your way to riches $500 at a time.
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Weight advantage
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5798990]
I agree that some cyclists can be obnoxious jerks. But there are a lot of motorists who are obnoxious jerks as well, the difference being that one group of obnoxious jerks are operating tons of metal and machinery that can easily kill people, while the other group dresses in odd clothing. And that's why I think motorists need to be held to a higher standard: simply because they can kill and injure others so easily.
[/QUOTE]When I was younger and a bike was my primary mode of transportation, I was always aware of the weight advantage motor vehicles had over me. Had I been given the opportunity of a bike lane I would be in that sucker all the time. There are a great many bi-cyclist that seem to have a holier than thou attitude towards cars (that pay for their bike lanes BTW) and feel entitled to the roads they do not contribute to.
And for the record, yes, I was hit be (more than once) by a car making a right turn and not seeing me while riding as far to the right of the road as possible.
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[QUOTE=Rousse;5800140]"Multi-Millionaire" is table-stakes in this area. Redfin has Bellevue's median home price at $1.25 million. The average tech salary in this area gets you there in under a decade even with reasonable living expenses.
His dumpster-diving hobby sounds like a personal kink. You can't save your way to riches $500 at a time.[/QUOTE]He lives outside of Austin, not in Seattle. But he can afford to fly to Europe every month to fuck ****** in Germany at 50 euro a pop.
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Well that just sounds like his thing. We all have our requirements that get us going, sometimes I'm not sure we even know why. There are guys who save-up for the Bunny Ranch and other legal brothels in Nevada. Not my thing, just too.... I don't know, but not really my thing. I can't put my finger on it. But some guys love it. When they think about the hobby that's the perception which pops into their heads, so that's what they go for. I think this is why a lot of guys are paying the overly made-up SoCal hookers out on Aurora. When they think of paying for a sex worker, that's the image which comes into their minds. They want the 20 minute impersonal, plastic, overly made-up circus freak show for $$$. It's how they envision it and it's what gets them off. Doesn't do it for me, but the girls are still in business, so....
Same with strip clubs. I don't get the point, but I knew a guy who absolutely loved them. He'd go every weekend and drop a [i]lot[/i] of dough on dances, then have one or two come back to his place afterward. He'd spend a couple thousand sometimes. Not my thing, but that's what he liked and it got him off. I can scream and b****h and whine like a little c***t all I want and it still won't put those girls out of business. I mean, come on here.
Guys it doesn't matter. None of this matters. None of it. There's a price-range for everyone's situation. There are a variety of experiences at every level. Some good experiences at low price points, some bad experiences at high price points but none of that matters. We all go where our comfort, perception and experience exists. That's different for me as it is for you as it is for anyone else. It's ridiculous to even debate it.
[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5800309]he can afford to fly to Europe every month to fuck ****** in Germany at 50 euro a pop.[/QUOTE]
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Gahdamn!
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5800431]Well that just sounds like his thing. We all have our requirements that get us going, sometimes I'm not sure we even know why. There are guys who save-up for the Bunny Ranch and other legal brothels in Nevada. Not my thing, just too.... I don't know, but not really my thing. I can't put my finger on it. But some guys love it. When they think about the hobby that's the perception which pops into their heads, so that's what they go for. I think this is why a lot of guys are paying the overly made-up SoCal hookers out on Aurora. When they think of paying for a sex worker, that's the image which comes into their minds. They want the 20 minute impersonal, plastic, overly made-up circus freak show for $$$. It's how they envision it and it's what gets them off. Doesn't do it for me, but the girls are still in business, so....
Same with strip clubs. I don't get the point, but I knew a guy who absolutely loved them. He'd go every weekend and drop a [i]lot[/i] of dough on dances, then have one or two come back to his place afterward. He'd spend a couple thousand sometimes. Not my thing, but that's what he liked and it got him off. I can scream and b****h and whine like a little c***t all I want and it still won't put those girls out of business. I mean, come on here.
Guys it doesn't matter. None of this matters. None of it. There's a price-range for everyone's situation. There are a variety of experiences at every level. Some good experiences at low price points, some bad experiences at high price points but none of that matters. We all go where our comfort, perception and experience exists. That's different for me as it is for you as it is for anyone else. It's ridiculous to even debate it.[/QUOTE]Absolutely spot on brotha! When covid started, we all thought prices would go down. 2 yrs later, here we are smh. I get it fellas, that thing between their legs is their golden ticket and they know.
So either get your money up or fit in where you get in. Different strokes for different folks.
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Can't Get Shit
I spent quite a bit of time this weekend trolling for chicks online. Most of the time I never got any response, the few I did get came hours later. On Saturday evening I had a gal and we were engaged and essentially committed and then she went dark. Three hours later she said, "I'm sorry. I forgot to hit the "send" button earlier to confirm our date". Yeah, sure. She was all the way down in Tacoma so I'm glad that didn't work out. This morning I woke-up to a message from another gal I texted the day prior, "come over today and let's make each other cum". I responded, she went dark rest of day. I guess she found someone to make her "cum" before I got to her.
Tonight a long-time old regular contacted me. Haven't seen her in forevvvvvver. I don't know what kind of shape she's in these days, but I decided to try. She wants to meet me, I agree and start cleaning-up and tell her to let me know when she's at the spot. It's not too far from where I live so I just stayed-put until I heard from her. Two-and-a-half hours go by and I decided she's not coming. That's okay, I'm not out anything since I haven't left. Normally I'd just go about my night, but I decided to let her know that I was out for the night. She replied, "I was just getting ready to drive to meet you but whatever". That pissed me off. Somehow this is my fault. You should all know that she's been flaky in the past, so I sort of expected this. But, apparently it's my fault. So I said, "just getting ready now after two-and-a-half hours? You couldn't let me know? I'm no-showed so often that I just learned to move-on after a certain amount of time, you're lucky I even fucking bothered to let you know. If you're pissed-off, it's your god damn fault, not mine". I'm just not going to take that shit. Fine if she's pissed, but somehow putting this on me is BS.
I've dealt with this in the past and it's an expected part of this hobby. I just seem to be much-less willing to deal with it these last couple of years, LOL. People have always asked me why I liked the street and i've always said it's because of the immediacy of it all. I'm not waiting for potentially hours for a response, driving to somewhere and going dark. But the gals on the street haven't really been working for me, either.
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[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5800431]Well that just sounds like his thing. We all have our requirements that get us going, sometimes I'm not sure we even know why. There are guys who save-up for the Bunny Ranch and other legal brothels in Nevada. Not my thing, just too.... I don't know, but not really my thing. I can't put my finger on it. But some guys love it. When they think about the hobby that's the perception which pops into their heads, so that's what they go for. I think this is why a lot of guys are paying the overly made-up SoCal hookers out on Aurora. When they think of paying for a sex worker, that's the image which comes into their minds. They want the 20 minute impersonal, plastic, overly made-up circus freak show for $$$. It's how they envision it and it's what gets them off. Doesn't do it for me, but the girls are still in business, so....
Same with strip clubs. I don't get the point, but I knew a guy who absolutely loved them. He'd go every weekend and drop a [i]lot[/i] of dough on dances, then have one or two come back to his place afterward. He'd spend a couple thousand sometimes. Not my thing, but that's what he liked and it got him off. I can scream and b****h and whine like a little c***t all I want and it still won't put those girls out of business. I mean, come on here.[/QUOTE]Most of what you state is fine. I do not go to strip clubs, so what you said about that does not apply to me. However, I still say there is nothing wrong with one making statements about rates, services, etc. , as long as one is not demeaning the op. And if one wishes to express their disagreement with such posts, fine. Just don't go "bashing" the person that made the post.
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Lateness!
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5800902]I spent quite a bit of time this weekend trolling for chicks online. Most of the time I never got any response, the few I did get came hours later. On Saturday evening I had a gal and we were engaged and essentially committed and then she went dark. Three hours later she said, "I'm sorry. I forgot to hit the "send" button earlier to confirm our date". Yeah, sure. She was all the way down in Tacoma so I'm glad that didn't work out. This morning I woke-up to a message from another gal I texted the day prior, "come over today and let's make each other cum". I responded, she went dark rest of day. I guess she found someone to make her "cum" before I got to her.
Tonight a long-time old regular contacted me. Haven't seen her in forevvvvvver. I don't know what kind of shape she's in these days, but I decided to try. She wants to meet me, I agree and start cleaning-up and tell her to let me know when she's at the spot. It's not too far from where I live so I just stayed-put until I heard from her. Two-and-a-half hours go by and I decided she's not coming. That's okay, I'm not out anything since I haven't left. Normally I'd just go about my night, but I decided to let her know that I was out for the night. She replied, "I was just getting ready to drive to meet you but whatever". That pissed me off. Somehow this is my fault. You should all know that she's been flaky in the past, so I sort of expected this. But, apparently it's my fault. So I said, "just getting ready now after two-and-a-half hours? You couldn't let me know? I'm no-showed so often that I just learned to move-on after a certain amount of time, you're lucky I even fucking bothered to let you know. If you're pissed-off, it's your god damn fault, not mine". I'm just not going to take that shit. Fine if she's pissed, but somehow putting this on me is BS.
I've dealt with this in the past and it's an expected part of this hobby. I just seem to be much-less willing to deal with it these last couple of years, LOL. People have always asked me why I liked the street and i've always said it's because of the immediacy of it all. I'm not waiting for potentially hours for a response, driving to somewhere and going dark. But the gals on the street haven't really been working for me, either.[/QUOTE]I've come to notice over the past year, most providers are super busy on the weekends. Also guessing they go with who has a big bank roll first. But yeah I tend to text them a day or two earlier, not the same day I have the appnt. All in all, its getting bad, they've made it all about the $. So ef services! If these chix had a regular job they would be fired. No accountability!
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Another cyclist's view
[QUOTE=WalterWhite99;5799005]Note I said "(I think)", ie, not sure. But whether breaking the law or not, why can't common sense prevail? In that particular case, after the idiot gave me the finger, it would have been reasonably right for me to do something to him (maybe physical harm).
You would be one of the few, in a very, very minority, that would use their head and behave in a mature fashion. Most bicyclists are just jerks, and think they own the road.
And as for motorists invade bike lanes all the time, the same could be said of bicyclists who invade road lanes outside of bicycle lanes. Whether legal or not, it's still the same: if there is a bike lane, then use it![/QUOTE]In general, bicycles have the same rights to roadways and are subject to same traffic regs as cars, with obvious exceptions like freeways where non-motorized vehicles are prohibited. Bike lanes provide a separate and safer right of way that can help minimize car / cycle conflict, and I think cyclists are wise to use them but they are not legally obligated to do so.
And yes there are jerks on 2 wheels just like there are on 4 wheels. It doesn't help either group to fly the bird on the way by, nor honestly does use of the horn (which comes across as, "get the F out of my way! Other than perhaps a quick toot to let someone know you're going to pass. In my experience though, as both an automobile driver and cyclist, most people try to share the road.
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Aggressive
I notice that Lee Groinman, Toomgis, Cameltoe, and Camhole only post, when they have something negative to say to, or about, someone else. Why do you all have to be so aggressive all the time? Why not try to be positive for a change?.