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[QUOTE=WednesdayFun;5538423]I mean technically no, but they're basically like a high school clique with a bunch of dumb rules. Best to avoid them if you're looking for something easy (and fun).[/QUOTE]Seems like that's the case unfortunately. What happened to good ol fashioned paying for an experience. What happened to good old fashioned no strings clubs and forums for this stuff. Someone who wants to fuck their boyfriend in front of me for a fee. This seems like it's not that hard.
[QUOTE=OaklandT309;5539352]Has anyone here paid for the Erotic Money membership to be able to read reviews, and if so did you find them accurate and worthwhile? I know YMMV with any provider but sometimes it's worth a small investment to increase your odds of a good experience and not feel like you wasted money. There's a shit ton of ads there I haven't seen anyone talk about here. And I've seen a number of providers say they've gotten good reviews on them. Anyone can say that, but is it true, ya know?[/QUOTE]Waste of money. The reviews are mostly fake.
[QUOTE=EDPills;5540220]Waste of money. The reviews are mostly fake.[/QUOTE]I figured. But I wanted to ask. Truly appreciate the feedback and warning. Stay safe having fun out there!
[QUOTE=Argongas1;5540084]Money. I bring money. That used to be good enough. Is this relationship forming stuff new? I want unique experiences and I want to pay for it. I don't want a family of like minded.[/QUOTE]By saying Money, I assume you mean a lot of money. Not 200-300 for a single experience but maybe 1000 or more. I'll give you a semi-direct lead. Go to Seeking Arrangement. Right now, or at least as recently as last week, I saw a fairly current ad on there featuring a M / F couple. I believe they are in Windsor. I assume they are able to cross the border again now, you know, covid blockade and all. I actually hit them up once 2-3 years ago and had a few brief messaging convos. It never meshed for whatever reason I can't specifically recall now, but probably scheduling on my end. At that time I think they asked 500 so it's probably more now.
Otherwise, If I were in your shoes and had lots of money to burn I'd also try hitting up the high end providers and Doms. Explain your situation / needs and flash the cash, even if it's paying them a finder's fee. They may be more connected to the types of people you're looking for.
You could put ads up on Doublelist. There's a section for couples seeking men.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=WednesdayFun;5539764]It lists me as being dead.[/QUOTE]LOLOLOL, you win the internet today. But I hope it doesn't cause you trouble getting your IRS refund, LOL.
I swear I have seen a report on her. Anyone have intel: [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/mariah7[/URL].
I believe this was stated before, but is worth mentioning again. One nice thing about the TextNow app. When lets say you are done mongering for the day, you can delete the app. It will say that it deletes all data associated with it or something to that effect, but it does not delete the data. When you are ready to monger again, download the app from the cloud and all of your data will still be there.
[QUOTE=OaklandT309;5539864]Tell her you have Text Now for businesses and websites etc that require you provide a cell phone # for verification codes etc, and you don't want all the marketing BS texts you'll get afterwards. You can turn off the Text Now notifications without worrying about missing anything important. All the real stuff is coming to your regular number.[/QUOTE]
I saw Amber (my first young spinner) in a value-priced hotel in Southfield (hint: it has crimson shingles) on a recent weekday afternoon. It took her over an hour to respond to my first message, but after that comms were fairly good. I dropped the donation and we got comfortable.
She was generally pleasant to be with but she was so stoned / exhausted she couldn't set a very enthusiastic vibe for the session. She has a kickin' bod and her small size and micro-titties were a novel and kind of exciting change-of-pace. She is a spinner with a tiny 5'0" 90# super tight body. Smallest and tightest I've ever had. Almost flat chest with really perky nipples. Nice voice and I think she has a cute face, but she was so stoned / exhausted it was difficult to tell. Her eyes were never more than half open. Her teeth were a little sketchy, but difficult to see because she doesn't open her mouth too much to smile or speak.
I convinced her to DFK and she agreed but never really got past a brief LFK. She asked if I was "party friendly" and being naive about such things I assumed she meant pot so I told her I would not indulge but didn't mind if she did. The next thing I know, she is blazing up using a tiny pipe with tiny white pellets. I was so surprised I didn't know what to do so I just rolled with it. She smoked at least 3-4 times during our hour. The environment was also not conducive to a good time because she kept checking her phone during the appt and the TV was blaring some dumb show about rehabbing vacation properties. We started with an only-OK CBJ during which I could feel her teeth a bit and I'd swear she was experiencing "micro sleep" for a few seconds every now-and-again. The highlight of the date for me was a 15 min DATY on the prettiest, tightest little pussy I have ever worked on. Amber seemed to appreciate it too. Several times. I got her up on all fours for some doggie and she almost jumped out of her skin when I put-in. It turns out I was too big. I couldn't drive in or back out without hurting her andI'm not into pain. I've had other girls tell me I am big but I always thought they were stroking my ego. Maybe I am too big for spinners that have not birthed. Bummer. We went back to the so-so CBJ but the mood was pretty much dead by that point. Ran out of time. Didn't nut. Won't repeat. She could be great for more normal sized guys if she could clean up her candy usage and get some rest.
[URL]https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/66983492[/URL]
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/phone/313-677-2492[/URL]
[QUOTE=OaklandT309;5540371]By saying Money, I assume you mean a lot of money. Not 200-300 for a single experience but maybe 1000 or more. I'll give you a semi-direct lead. Go to Seeking Arrangement. Right now, or at least as recently as last week, I saw a fairly current ad on there featuring a M / F couple. I believe they are in Windsor. I assume they are able to cross the border again now, you know, covid blockade and all. I actually hit them up once 2-3 years ago and had a few brief messaging convos. It never meshed for whatever reason I can't specifically recall now, but probably scheduling on my end. At that time I think they asked 500 so it's probably more now.
Otherwise, If I were in your shoes and had lots of money to burn I'd also try hitting up the high end providers and Doms. Explain your situation / needs and flash the cash, even if it's paying them a finder's fee. They may be more connected to the types of people you're looking for.
You could put ads up on Doublelist. There's a section for couples seeking men.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Totally forgot about Doublelist. Thanks! I just wish there were more casual places to go for this. It's either talking to a 600 an hour Dom, or starting a whole new lifestyle. I just want to try a few different things without putting in too much work.
Thanks!
I learned a LOT about the hobby on my latest (mis) adventure. First, in my date with Amber I learned about the joys of a young spinner and the sorrows of drug use and incompatible genital proportions. Then I learned about the risks in scheduling yourself too tightly and the importance of careful communication.
After my date with Amber came (or didn't come?) to an unsatisfactory conclusion, I was in a bad way. I had taken a tadalafil (Cialis) to assure that the purple helmeted warrior did his duty and I had major wood and a lot of frustration. I contacted Delilah, one of my ATFs, for a relief date even though I was pushing my available time window by that point (little head was firmly in control by that point). What happened next can best be described as either a comedy of errors or a tragedy of good intentions. I erased the text thread when I cleaned up the phone later so I don't have the exact conversation but it was something like:
Me 1:00 Hey, can you see me soon?
Her 1:05 OK.
Me 1:07 See you in 15-20 min.
Her 1:25 Oh no! I missed your last message! If I don't answer right away next time call me. I'm at Walmart. I can be there in 30 minutes.
Me 1:26 OK, I'll get close by and wait.
Me 1:35 I'm 3 minutes away. Let me know when you're ready.
At this point I get a call that closes my time window and I have to bail. I felt bad, but I figured she's be no worse off than if I hadn't texted for an appt in the first place. So I text:
Me 1:45 Crap. Life intrudes. My time window has closed. We'll have to try again for another day.
I figured that would be the end of it, but as I'm driving a few minutes later I get a text message and then a phone call from Delilah telling me in no uncertain term what an ahole I am for making another date when she was hurrying, cutting her trip short and paying more money to get back faster (apparently she doesn't drive). I asked her why she thought I was making another date and she said she said I sent a message (my 1:35 message above) telling another girl I would be coming in. I tried to explain that the 1:35 message WAS to her and I WAS 3 minutes from her hotel before my window closed early, but she's not having it so far. I may be down an ATF. Bummer. I'm thinking about trying to make it right by covering her costs for trying to get back. I don't like the feeling I have an unpaid debt. Any feedback from the forum?
Lessons learned:
1) Watch out for girls under the influence.
2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).
3) Be careful how you communicate with your provider lest your messages be misinterpreted.
4) Never assume your provider is none-the-worse off if you have to cancel (my bad).
Stay Safe.
[QUOTE=LotharioPK;5540775]I saw Amber (my first young spinner) in a value-priced hotel in Southfield (hint: it has crimson shingles) on a recent weekday afternoon. It took her over an hour to respond to my first message, but after that comms were fairly good. I dropped the donation and we got comfortable.
She was generally pleasant to be with but she was so stoned / exhausted she couldn't set a very enthusiastic vibe for the session. She has a kickin' bod and her small size and micro-titties were a novel and kind of exciting change-of-pace. She is a spinner with a tiny 5'0" 90# super tight body. Smallest and tightest I've ever had. Almost flat chest with really perky nipples. Nice voice and I think she has a cute face, but she was so stoned / exhausted it was difficult to tell. Her eyes were never more than half open. Her teeth were a little sketchy, but difficult to see because she doesn't open her mouth too much to smile or speak.
I convinced her to DFK and she agreed but never really got past a brief LFK. She asked if I was "party friendly" and being naive about such things I assumed she meant pot so I told her I would not indulge but didn't mind if she did. The next thing I know, she is blazing up using a tiny pipe with tiny white pellets. I was so surprised I didn't know what to do so I just rolled with it. She smoked at least 3-4 times during our hour. The environment was also not conducive to a good time because she kept checking her phone during the appt and the TV was blaring some dumb show about rehabbing vacation properties. We started with an only-OK CBJ during which I could feel her teeth a bit and I'd swear she was experiencing "micro sleep" for a few seconds every now-and-again. The highlight of the date for me was a 15 min DATY on the prettiest, tightest little pussy I have ever worked on. Amber seemed to appreciate it too. Several times. I got her up on all fours for some doggie and she almost jumped out of her skin when I put-in. It turns out I was too big. I couldn't drive in or back out without hurting her and I'm not into pain. I've had other girls tell me I am big but I always thought they were stroking my ego.[/QUOTE]There's no way she's 21! She has to be at least 30+.
[QUOTE=OaklandT309;5539291]For anyone who might think it's safe enough to use your real phone number when texting, do a reverse number search here:
[URL]https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/[/URL]#.
I was shocked at the amount of info when I reached my own cell number. Just imagine if a girl like the sliding-fast Layna's thug pimp got hold of that?
Use a burner or a texting app. I use TextNow. If anyone has an even better alternative please share.[/QUOTE]My burner phone comes up as a 35 year old Daneen P* living in Bloomfield. Wrong name wrong age wrong city.
[QUOTE=LotharioPK;5540945]I learned a LOT about the hobby on my latest (mis) adventure. First, in my date with Amber I learned about the joys of a young spinner and the sorrows of drug use and incompatible genital proportions. Then I learned about the risks in scheduling yourself too tightly and the importance of careful communication.
After my date with Amber came (or didn't come?) to an unsatisfactory conclusion, I was in a bad way. I had taken a tadalafil (Cialis) to assure that the purple helmeted warrior did his duty and I had major wood and a lot of frustration. I contacted Delilah, one of my ATFs, for a relief date even though I was pushing my available time window by that point (little head was firmly in control by that point). What happened next can best be described as either a comedy of errors or a tragedy of good intentions. I erased the text thread when I cleaned up the phone later so I don't have the exact conversation but it was something like:
Me 1:00 Hey, can you see me soon?
Her 1:05 OK.
Me 1:07 See you in 15-20 min.
Her 1:25 Oh no! I missed your last message! If I don't answer right away next time call me. I'm at Walmart. I can be there in 30 minutes.
Me 1:26 OK, I'll get close by and wait.
Me 1:35 I'm 3 minutes away. Let me know when you're ready.
At this point I get a call that closes my time window and I have to bail. I felt bad, but I figured she's be no worse off than if I hadn't texted for an appt in the first place. So I text:
Me 1:45 Crap. Life intrudes. My time window has closed. We'll have to try again for another day.
I figured that would be the end of it, but as I'm driving a few minutes later I get a text message and then a phone call from Delilah telling me in no uncertain term what an ahole I am for making another date when she was hurrying, cutting her trip short and paying more money to get back faster (apparently she doesn't drive). I asked her why she thought I was making another date and she said she said I sent a message (my 1:35 message above) telling another girl I would be coming in. I tried to explain that the 1:35 message WAS to her and I WAS 3 minutes from her hotel before my window closed early, but she's not having it so far. I may be down an ATF. Bummer. I'm thinking about trying to make it right by covering her costs for trying to get back. I don't like the feeling I have an unpaid debt. Any feedback from the forum?
Lessons learned:
1) Watch out for girls under the influence.
2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).
3) Be careful how you communicate with your provider lest your messages be misinterpreted.
4) Never assume your provider is none-the-worse off if you have to cancel (my bad).
Stay Safe.[/QUOTE]For a true ATF, as they're hard to find, I'd negotiate a settlement.
What were the rates?
[QUOTE=LotharioPK;5540775]I saw Amber (my first young spinner) in a value-priced hotel in Southfield (hint: it has crimson shingles) on a recent weekday afternoon. It took her over an hour to respond to my first message, but after that comms were fairly good. I dropped the donation and we got comfortable.
She was generally pleasant to be with but she was so stoned / exhausted she couldn't set a very enthusiastic vibe for the session. She has a kickin' bod and her small size and micro-titties were a novel and kind of exciting change-of-pace. She is a spinner with a tiny 5'0" 90# super tight body. Smallest and tightest I've ever had. Almost flat chest with really perky nipples. Nice voice and I think she has a cute face, but she was so stoned / exhausted it was difficult to tell. Her eyes were never more than half open. Her teeth were a little sketchy, but difficult to see because she doesn't open her mouth too much to smile or speak.
I convinced her to DFK and she agreed but never really got past a brief LFK. She asked if I was "party friendly" and being naive about such things I assumed she meant pot so I told her I would not indulge but didn't mind if she did. The next thing I know, she is blazing up using a tiny pipe with tiny white pellets. I was so surprised I didn't know what to do so I just rolled with it. She smoked at least 3-4 times during our hour. The environment was also not conducive to a good time because she kept checking her phone during the appt and the TV was blaring some dumb show about rehabbing vacation properties. We started with an only-OK CBJ during which I could feel her teeth a bit and I'd swear she was experiencing "micro sleep" for a few seconds every now-and-again. The highlight of the date for me was a 15 min DATY on the prettiest, tightest little pussy I have ever worked on. Amber seemed to appreciate it too. Several times. I got her up on all fours for some doggie and she almost jumped out of her skin when I put-in. It turns out I was too big. I couldn't drive in or back out without hurting her andI'm not into pain. I've had other girls tell me I am big but I always thought they were stroking my ego. Maybe I am too big for spinners that have not birthed. Bummer. We went back to the so-so CBJ but the mood was pretty much dead by that point. Ran out of time. Didn't nut. Won't repeat. She could be great for more normal sized guys if she could clean up her candy usage and get some rest.
[URL]https://independent.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/66983492[/URL]
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/phone/313-677-2492[/URL][/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=LotharioPK;5540945]I learned a LOT about the hobby on my latest (mis) adventure. First, in my date with Amber I learned about the joys of a young spinner and the sorrows of drug use and incompatible genital proportions. Then I learned about the risks in scheduling yourself too tightly and the importance of careful communication.
After my date with Amber came (or didn't come?) to an unsatisfactory conclusion, I was in a bad way. I had taken a tadalafil (Cialis) to assure that the purple helmeted warrior did his duty and I had major wood and a lot of frustration. I contacted Delilah, one of my ATFs, for a relief date even though I was pushing my available time window by that point (little head was firmly in control by that point). What happened next can best be described as either a comedy of errors or a tragedy of good intentions. I erased the text thread when I cleaned up the phone later so I don't have the exact conversation but it was something like:
Me 1:00 Hey, can you see me soon?
Her 1:05 OK.
Me 1:07 See you in 15-20 min.
Her 1:25 Oh no! I missed your last message! If I don't answer right away next time call me. I'm at Walmart. I can be there in 30 minutes.
Me 1:26 OK, I'll get close by and wait.
Me 1:35 I'm 3 minutes away. Let me know when you're ready.
At this point I get a call that closes my time window and I have to bail. I felt bad, but I figured she's be no worse off than if I hadn't texted for an appt in the first place. So I text:
Me 1:45 Crap. Life intrudes. My time window has closed. We'll have to try again for another day.
I figured that would be the end of it, but as I'm driving a few minutes later I get a text message and then a phone call from Delilah telling me in no uncertain term what an ahole I am for making another date when she was hurrying, cutting her trip short and paying more money to get back faster (apparently she doesn't drive). I asked her why she thought I was making another date and she said she said I sent a message (my 1:35 message above) telling another girl I would be coming in. I tried to explain that the 1:35 message WAS to her and I WAS 3 minutes from her hotel before my window closed early, but she's not having it so far. I may be down an ATF. Bummer. [b]I'm thinking about trying to make it right by covering her costs for trying to get back. I don't like the feeling I have an unpaid debt. Any feedback from the forum?[/b]
Lessons learned:
1) Watch out for girls under the influence.
2) No matter how desperate you are, don't schedule yourself too tightly because something may come up (my bad).
3) Be careful how you communicate with your provider lest your messages be misinterpreted.
4) Never assume your provider is none-the-worse off if you have to cancel (my bad).
Stay Safe.[/QUOTE]Don't fall for the BS. She's just trying to get $ out of you without working for it. It's a play.
Just give her a month off of work, then try again with her and I'll bet she'll have no problem seeing you again. If she even remembers what happened, I'd be surprised.
Just my. 02.