Also a bit of a contrarian on this topic, but only in exceptional circumstances
[QUOTE=TwoDirection;3954669]IMO the choicest girls on the site are the ones who don't want to be paid for sex, and so paying them for a date without sex is the easiest way to get them to have sex with you.[/QUOTE]Good way to put it.
Apologies for the length, but I think it's an interesting story of how things can go when you go against conventional wisdom when your instincts are telling you to adapt to the circumstance.
As background, I've had some real mixed luck for the past few months, and by mid-August it was becoming clear that I had seriously misjudged my compatibility with an SB I started two weeks prior. Along the way I had seen a profile on SA of a 20-something that was interesting enough to for me to keep it in my favorite's, it was not enough for me to initiate contact. It was right around that time that she reached out to me asking if I was still looking. Was totally honest with her about what was going on, but she was game to strike up a conversation anyway. Shortly after I broke loose from my August SB and started the NSA dance.
One of my concerns was distance, as we're about 45 minutes apart in good traffic. When I asked her where she'd like to go out, she picked a place that was basically 10 minutes from me, which was surprising. In person she greatly exceeded my expectations. In retrospect, she was sending "I'm good to go" vibes in spades already. The "they-decide-in-the-first-five-minutes" rule in action. But I wanted another NSA to be sure, since August was such a fail.
For the 2nd NSA I offered to do the commute, and she picked a place really close to her. How do I know? While I'm on the road she asks if I'd rather carpool, and when I agreed she texts me her address. I took her up on it, and turns out her place is right on the way and only five minutes from the restaurant. During dinner and subsequent walk around town, I couldn't find anything wrong and an enormous amount that was right. Right down to where we got to negotiating a monthly (yes, another contrarian view), and when I said I couldn't do her first number, the second number she came back with was exactly what I had in mind. (to mitigate the risks of a monthly, we agreed to it split into two contributions each month).
So, after all that, I'm finally getting to the relevant part.
Now that we had come to an agreement, she offers to have us drive back to my place, go to hers, stay out, or whatever. We had already agreed to have overnights be part of the arrangement, so I agreed to just hang at her place that night, since she was offering. Fairly soon after that she mentioned that "I may not feel like having sex tonight", which I reassured her was fine. So we spend the rest of the evening curled up on her couch, drinking wine, talking, finding even more things we have in common, and end up just sharing her bed. Up until bedtime there had been plenty of physical flirting to signal that she was interested but for whatever reason didn't want to go there just yet.
While I'd prefer not to have the ambiguity, I'm figuring worst case I will have had some really pleasant companionship-something I value equally at this point. But if it doesn't clear the next hurdle in two weeks, I could cut my losses.
On the second overnight, a week later at my place, that hurdle was cleared and there's no longer any doubt that we're on the same page. I think in this particular instance it went a long way to allow her to let the sex develop more organically.
And she's the real deal. We have enough in common to make conversations effortless, but enough differences to keep them interesting. She is utterly down-to-earth, in the game both for the people-aspect as much as helping out her finances. She's pretty but not glamorously so, and as I found out on the second overnight, has a perfectly-proportioned athletic physique that is showing no signs that her teenage years are over. She can host, has no issue making the commute when I'm able to host, so there's no hotel overhead involved.
So sometimes it makes sense to bend the rules when your instincts are telling you that you've got a rare opportunity at landing "one of the good ones".
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Yes it can find your father
[QUOTE=InTight;3963104]This is not a world where you can be found through DNA testing if your DNA has not been tested. I know about the test lab people send DNA samples to for ancestor identification, now limited to finding out if you are a German or whatever decedent not so you can find your long lost father at least not if his DNA is not in the data bank. With NSA and other government and non government snooping (Google for one) it is becoming harder to protect your privacy. Universal DNA testing is too horrible to contemplate.[/QUOTE]Various sites give possible matches of relative. So even if you did not send in DNA, your kid, sibling, etc. Could have. So baby of SB, if DNA sent in might get a report that there is a possible half sibling, uncle, etc.
Yes, 32 & Me & Simular DNA Tests
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3963210]Various sites give possible matches of relative. So even if you did not send in DNA, your kid, sibling, etc. Could have. So baby of SB, if DNA sent in might get a report that there is a possible half sibling, uncle, etc.[/QUOTE]Here is how it can come back to bite you.
My SO got the DNA test done to see where her families originated from.
You also get info on relatives that had took the test. A couple of her cousins came up, plus a second cousin she didn't recognize.
Email addresses are provided for the matches. She emailed the adult male in Texas. He said he was adopted and didn't know his biological Mom but his adopted mother said her last name was ______, my SO’s Mom's maiden name.
Due to his age it couldn't have been her Mom or one of her three sisters, but one of her older cousins. Back in the day there where a lot of babies born out of wedlock were put up for adoption.
I think most people doing those type of tests are over 18 so you wouldn't get hit up financially but no fun explaining it to your SO!
Second Most Fun Ever With My SB
[QUOTE=YayaGogo;3960883]Agreed. Young girls always have and always will love clothes. I've also found that once I'm in an arrangement, watching their faces light up as you occasionally spend a couple hours going shopping with them to pick out a dress, lingerie or shoes they love ends up costing much less than an allowance, and boosts their sense that they don't feel like a h00 ker. They will do pretty much anything for you after that, and it's also fun watching them try on things for you. I say occasionally as most times we straight up meet at the FC.
*I buy makeup gift cards from Sephora at most malls. Again, I only pull those out as a way to clinch the deal AFTER I've verified on the initial meet if the girl is absolutely top shelf AND we click. I've only done it twice ever and they both were girls very new to the site (under one week), down to earth demeanor, and flooded with messages by competing SD's in my area. After starting things with me they also took down their profiles and have never been on since (verified by dummy / separate account). You have to be very selective if you're going to just hand out gifts. Good luck!
Yaya.[/QUOTE]My SB has a live in BF who has no clue we've been seeing each other for 2 1/2 years plus. Our get togethers are hours away in NC where she, until a few months ago was a 25 yo co-ed / waitress.
Our get together's always 3-8 hours daytime / early evening in a hotel suite. Then I go to her restaurant & sit at the bar for a few beers and dinner. We flirt but no one would ever guess that I had explored every inch of her earlier that day, due to our age difference. I'm friendly with all the staff and flirt & chat with all the young females & talk to the male bartenders.
The down side is we don't get out in public. I always have lunch for us in the suite and have cooked for her, which she loves. Other than meeting her once in Petsmart to meet her dog, never got to take her out.
Well a few months ago the BF was out of town for five weeks. Best five weeks of my life. We spent a lot of nights together but still in hotels because of her not wanting to run into one of his friends. With work & school it was hard for here to get away but we finally was able to do a night in Myrtle Beach at an ocean front condo.
Other than being with her for two days straight and taking her out to eat (after eating her out😈, the highlight was taking her to.
An outlet mall. She needed a rehearsal dinner dress for a wedding she was a bridesmaid in. She didn't find the dress but she bought a tiny pair of white shorts and a top.
I wanted her to get something to remember the trip so I took her into to Coach to get her a bag. So cute, she kept wanting to leave because they were "way too much". I insisted and made her get the matching wallet & eye glass case. I know we won't last forever but I'll always remember that trip and how cute and ecstatic she was with her new Coach bag. She couldn't wait to show it off to her friends.
Another time, the only time she wanted something so bad she dropped a hint that she couldn't afford a Lily Pulitzer romper. It was xxs and on clearance ($80) and she described the color & print. I was seeing her at the hotel again the next day so I grabbed it.
When I brought it out from behind the couch and she saw the colorful bag and knew I had got it, she lit up like a Christmas tree.
Definitely major points for a small investment.
It is the Time of the Month
Rent is due. They are desperate. I had a 19 yr old potential I met for a coffee about a month ago. Very personable cute girl reaching almost 10 out of 10 on my scale. When I talked to her, I realized rent for her apartment is number one on her mind. I kept texting back and forth with her, but she never agreed for a date. For about a month, she kept on giving excuses for not meeting. I kept on trying, and at the end totally forgot about her. All of a sudden, I get a text yesterday "can you meet me today". I asked "what's the hurry". She needs help with rent. Although I was little skeptical what the experience would be, she was OK with whatever I can help with. Came straight to my house, spent about 2 hours. We connected very well and excellent experience all the way. I gave her the minimum allowance I usually give and added a small personal gift of top. She very much appreciated me helping her out. The next time I see her may be when her rent is due again, but it is worth the wait.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
Rent is #1 driver of SB activity
One SB I know plays very hard to get, but the past two months has been struggling to make rent due to lack of income. Both months, she was all over WYP and SA the last week of the month, and then gone.
Even my regular SB was back online after she had to cancel our planned meeting on the 26th which would have covered her shortfall.
