Massage Parlor Reports

One of the best parts of the Panacea experience was the no pressure / no talk about the tip. Maybe just a comment of if I take care of you, you take care of me type of understanding. I suppose that could be because I had been there and they knew me, however even my first experience there was never any mention of a tip. If this is the case where they require a tip up front, they have lost my business forever too. I always tipped "fair" but never more than. 4 for a great performance and they were always happy with it. Now that Nat and Aliese are gone, Natasha being a part timer, it looks like the newbs are trying to rule the roost. Well, I've got news ladies, the previous regime was successful for all the above reasons stated. It seems like you may want to trust us first, if a client stiffs you, you know either 1 of 2 things. A) you better up your game and it wasn't worthy of a tip, or b) don't take that client again. Seems pretty simple. Lots of MP's in GR now. With equal talent. Better change the game or close the doors.

[QUOTE=Benz1;2853129]I do consider NJ the MP expert on this site, he has been to most and can give valuable info about all locations and probably most of the girls. Are there good ones left? Most have gone for the rushed ending and forgot the massage part. Not caring about the massage is part of the problem here too. This is why I have been so vocal, I'm usually not happy with the massage or the mechanical ending. And now we hear of paying up front for what? We don't know yet.

I have tipped a twenty at that Asian MP because it was a half assed massage and she was rushing to the ending for a big tip. I knew as soon as I blew it would be over, a good reason to tell her no and get back to the massage I paid for. I've walked out of many massage appointments and have done the same thing 20 or nothing. Some have taken some don't. They were lousy massages and should be treated as such.

Show me a CMT and you can tell who they are. They care about the your massage and don't short time. In fact many CMT have gone longer into overtime with me because of my bad leg. I treat them with the same respect they give me. Some may not have a CMT and it shows. It's possible that Natasha has the skills because many have raved about her massages. She is the only one that I would risk getting a massage and paying for the tip up front at Panacea. I have not seen her because I don't need to ad a new CMT to my list at this time.

If I go to another MP in GR I will treat them with the same respect they treat me. A good massage, full time and a good ending will deserve a good tip from me.

Ladies, it's time to step up and do a good job if you want a tip.[/QUOTE]I agree completely with Benz. Good service equals good tip! You should never tip a waitress as soon as you sit at the table, why in the hell would you tip before the massage even starts?

Thanks for all of the valuable info on tipping etc. Just wondered who the top massage providers are now, who would you recommend.

Thanks in advance.

Bob.

[QUOTE=Spongebob357;2853886]Thanks for all of the valuable info on tipping etc. Just wondered who the top massage providers are now, who would you recommend.

Thanks in advance.

Bob.[/QUOTE]Maybe NJ could make a short list send it to himself and then forward it to the seniors or whoever he wants. He will not have to keep typing it if he sends it to himself and the forward can be sent to multiple requests at one time. Don't forget to tell your massuse that you were refered by NJ. Maybe he will get an extra kiss for his troubles.

Thanks NJ for keeping us informed on the good ones.

Well I really hate to change the subject from such an interesting conversation, but here is a review of this MP. Legit therapeutic massage only. No HE. Bummer. The half of the body not worked on is covered with a sheet. Need I go on? I will say Chari is more beautiful in person than her pics, gives intense work to the massage.

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/the-island-of-relaxation-studio-by-beautiful-asian/14429765[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spongebob357;2853886]Thanks for all of the valuable info on tipping etc. Just wondered who the top massage providers are now, who would you recommend.

Thanks in advance.

Bob.[/QUOTE]Bob, despite what a few say, Panacea is a good visit. You should call ahead and ask who is available, and then schedule a time with a girl who has a good rep. There are several there who offer exactly what Natasha does, and Aliese and Natalie did. But it's not worth a first timer's dollar to just try whoever they give you.

They run the business well, and you know what to expect. Plus they don't pressure for upsell tips at all.

You should know, from the many recent complaints, that they recently started encouraging guys to leave a tip out at the start, so they know to start the erotic part early in the massage. But if you'd rather wait till then end, just say so. Say you want the whole erotic experience, but since you haven't had a session with the girl yet, you'd rather wait to see just what the experience is like. These girls are very reasonable and good at what they do, and they will roll with that.

A few of the haters here think that if a girl will touch your nether regions, that automatically means she's open for FS, Greek, followed by BBBJCIM W / S for $20, and anyone who's not has GPS. That's why there has been so much noise on this fine establishment lately.

Ignore that, they are worth a visit. Unless you want FS, BJ, or such, because that is not on the menu there.

PM me if you need a short list of the best current ladies at Panacea.

There are a number of traditional rub and tug joints in GR, and a few AMPs. Others will have to opine there, cause that is not my scene.

[QUOTE=Tom70;2854016]Bob, despite what a few say, Panacea is a good visit. You should call ahead and ask who is available, and then schedule a time with a girl who has a good rep. There are several there who offer exactly what Natasha does, and Aliese and Natalie did. But it's not worth a first timer's dollar to just try whoever they give you.

They run the business well, and you know what to expect. Plus they don't pressure for upsell tips at all.

You should know, from the many recent complaints, that they recently started encouraging guys to leave a tip out at the start, so they know to start the erotic part early in the massage. But if you'd rather wait till then end, just say so. Say you want the whole erotic experience, but since you haven't had a session with the girl yet, you'd rather wait to see just what the experience is like. These girls are very reasonable and good at what they do, and they will roll with that.

A few of the haters here think that if a girl will touch your nether regions, that automatically means she's open for FS, Greek, followed by BBBJCIM W / S for $20, and anyone who's not has GPS. That's why there has been so much noise on this fine establishment lately.

Ignore that, they are worth a visit. Unless you want FS, BJ, or such, because that is not on the menu there.

PM me if you need a short list of the best current ladies at Panacea.

There are a number of traditional rub and tug joints in GR, and a few AMPs. Others will have to opine there, cause that is not my scene.[/QUOTE]I agree with Tom about Panacea. They are my fave too though I haven't been in a bit. I'm sad to hear about the new tip before you play policy if that is true, but they do have the babes!

[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;2854068]I agree with Tom about Panacea. They are my fave too though I haven't been in a bit. I'm sad to hear about the new tip before you play policy if that is true, but they do have the babes![/QUOTE]If you really don't want to lay down a 20 at the start, as a matter of your "principles" or because you are new to the joint and not familiar with their level of service, just tell the girl you'd rather tip at the end.

One of the consistent standards there is no tipping pressure. They will go for that. And any girl who doesn't tow that company line will have a very short tenure.

[QUOTE=LuvRubs;2853948]Well I really hate to change the subject from such an interesting conversation, but here is a review of this MP. Legit therapeutic massage only. No HE. Bummer. The half of the body not worked on is covered with a sheet. Need I go on? I will say Chari is more beautiful in person than her pics, gives intense work to the massage.

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/the-island-of-relaxation-studio-by-beautiful-asian/14429765[/URL][/QUOTE]I did comment about 2 weeks ago that she is a good massuse. I saw her at her home North of GR and no extras were Avilable. Sorry you missed that comment, post # 3969. I would repeat, she gave an excellent massage, you can tell she is a CMT. As I have mentioned before, I see an escort for the extras.

Happy Hunting.

[QUOTE=Tom70;2854175]If you really don't want to lay down a 20 at the start, as a matter of your "principles" or because you are new to the joint and not familiar with their level of service, just tell the girl you'd rather tip at the end.

One of the consistent standards there is no tipping pressure. They will go for that. And any girl who doesn't tow that company line will have a very short tenure.[/QUOTE]I'm not following. It's not $20 mandatory tip, it's $40 mandatory tip for HH, $60 mandatory tip for full H. Are you saying that you just have to say you don't want to do it upfront at that rate, but you'll do it later at that rate if you're fully satisfied?

I think making it $40/$40, $60/$60 bare minimum, Upfront is tipping Pressure. Even if you can end up lobbying not to take your tip upfront.

[QUOTE=LuvRubs;2853948]Well I really hate to change the subject from such an interesting conversation, but here is a review of this MP. Legit therapeutic massage only. No HE. Bummer. The half of the body not worked on is covered with a sheet. Need I go on? I will say Chari is more beautiful in person than her pics, gives intense work to the massage.

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/the-island-of-relaxation-studio-by-beautiful-asian/14429765[/URL][/QUOTE]Man, I loves me some Asian! Good looking Lady. I appreciate a good Legit massage on occasion, but if I saw Chari, I know I wouldn't behave myself. Thanks for the report LR. Scratching her off my to do list. Bummer!

[QUOTE=Benz1;2853945]Maybe NJ could make a short list send it to himself and then forward it to the seniors or whoever he wants. He will not have to keep typing it if he sends it to himself and the forward can be sent to multiple requests at one time. Don't forget to tell your massuse that you were refered by NJ. Maybe he will get an extra kiss for his troubles.

Thanks NJ for keeping us informed on the good ones.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the updated info as the massage scene changes rapidly. I come up from Kazoo (since Synergy stopped offering appointments) the kazoo scene is zero, so maximizing my time and dollars is important to me. Recently I did have a great experience at Spring Spa in BC, but once again the masseuse there has moved on so they are back to the standard fare.

[QUOTE=Spongebob357;2855078]I come up from Kazoo (since Synergy stopped offering appointments)[/QUOTE]Synergy! WoW that's a blast from the past. Welcome to GR Bob.

NJ.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;2854068]I agree with Tom about Panacea. They are my fave too though I haven't been in a bit. I'm sad to hear about the new tip before you play policy if that is true, but they do have the babes![/QUOTE]Who are the best girls at Panacea? Thanks!

Contrary to some of the rumors around here, I am not, nor ever was, a part owner of Panacea!

NJ.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2855165]Synergy! WoW that's a blast from the past. Welcome to GR Bob.

NJ.[/QUOTE]Thanks NJ, yes I am old enough to have been a member on every old board.

[QUOTE=Spongebob357;2855666]Thanks NJ, yes I am old enough to have been a member on every old board.[/QUOTE]Synergy continued things under a different name later working out of some spiritual healing / massage type of place a few years back too.

[QUOTE=MusicBoss10;2855302]Who are the best girls at Panacea? Thanks![/QUOTE]I think we all can agree that Natasha is hands down the best at Panacea! She really does have it all. Great attitude, good massage, beautiful, roaming is great and gets even better with each visit and she gets explosive endings out of you everytime! Natalie was nice though no longer there as well as Aliese was pretty good. Tia gets high marks as well as most of the girls there. You almost can't go wrong there as long as this whole tip before the session doesn't take hold.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2855625]Contrary to some of the rumors around here, I am not, nor ever was, a part owner of Panacea!

NJ.[/QUOTE]Its a good thing you're not an onwer. With this new tipping policy, it won't be long before you can buy that place for a song and dance.

I might be the odd guy out here, or just a guy who ain't afraid to call it as he sees it, but I don't see anything special about the girls at Panacea other than Natasha, and she's hands down the best I've had. Over the years I've read the superlatives on Natalie and others and never found any of them to be near what the press releases indicated. Could just be a matter of different strokes for different folks, or it could just be over-effusive promoters pumping a favorite girl or favorite parlor. I've been there a dozen times and other than Natasha it's been average and in a couple instances below average experience, so for my money I think there are a couple over-enthusiastic promoters at play here.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;2856046]I might be the odd guy out here, or just a guy who ain't afraid to call it as he sees it, but I don't see anything special about the girls at Panacea other than Natasha, and she's hands down the best I've had. Over the years I've read the superlatives on Natalie and others and never found any of them to be near what the press releases indicated. Could just be a matter of different strokes for different folks, or it could just be over-effusive promoters pumping a favorite girl or favorite parlor. I've been there a dozen times and other than Natasha it's been average and in a couple instances below average experience, so for my money I think there are a couple over-enthusiastic promoters at play here.[/QUOTE]Yes Blackfire, I agree on Natasha! There was also a girl that went by Summer at Panacea that I thought was Sexy as hell, but she proved to be too unreliable and would come and go often. Blackfire which parlors and girls would you recommend? I'd like to broaden my horizons a bit more in the parlor scene!

[QUOTE=LonelyLove;2595349]Ironically, Panacea is not living up to their name, they're not a cure for anyone's ills. Wow, the way they treat a walk-in is astounding. I was up north and on my way back down, I decided to drop in and see if it's still the same white trash that populated the place years ago. Sad to say, it is. (I actually was hoping to meet Natasha, as I understand she's the only one worth a damn in the place, but she wasn't there.) I opened the door and after nearly tripping over a 10 ounce dog, I met Jessica at the desk. Jessica is kinda cute, has jagged teeth that look like an infant's and has a bit of a belly either from bad nuutrion or baby damage. Can't tell without seeing it undressed. At about this time, a bigger girl in a moo moo dress walked up counting the cash that someone just handed her on his way down the hall. She got a big frown and I joked to Jessica that it obviously wasn't enough money. She laughed and I asked how much could I expect the tip to be. She said they want it to match the door fee, if you're there for a half hour, the tip should be 40 and if you're there for an hour, the tip should be 60. I imagine that's what they'd like, but in my mind, I wasn't seeing any talent there to command that kind of cash. In walks a hot mess of a blond who was probably at her physical prime about 6 years ago. Her exposed legs showed ample cottage cheese already forming on a girl who can't be more than 24. This girl was sporting one of the most cartoonish-looking black eyes I've ever seen. Looked like she tried to last:30 with Ronda Rousey. I smiled at Jessica and whispered if she was responsible for the face damage, she giggled and said no. I decided to explain to Jessica about my bad experience at their place years ago and how I was hoping it was different now and also not wanting to compare them to the bizarre experience of walking into East West. Just then, the (used-to-be hot) hot mess black eyed blond comes back around and nearly screams at me asking if I'm going to go with a massage or not? I said, yeah, no. Now that you've made up my mind, no. No I won't. This brings the manager holding a clipboard out from the back room. She says to me that she hears I'm causing problems up here. Jessica, in my defense, explains to her that I merely had a few questions and that it was everyone else jumping down my throat and trying to force me to stay or get the Hell out. I told the manager that I appreciated her coming out but I'd just decided that I'd never come back. Yet another girl pops out from nowhere and says, good. We got a million other guys to replace you. I'm sure you do. The funny thing is, the manager was the hottest one there. If she'd been an option when I walked in, I'd have stayed. She kinda looks like the dead teacher from Bates Motel, pic attached.[/QUOTE]Sounds like GPS is not the only problem at Panacea.

[QUOTE=Benz1;2857309]Sounds like GPS is not the only problem at Panacea.[/QUOTE]Now you are digging up 7 month old ficticious rants? We get it, you don't do massage parlors and you know nothing about this place.

[QUOTE=Tom70;2857318]Now you are digging up 7 month old ficticious rants? We get it, you don't do massage parlors and you know nothing about this place.[/QUOTE]On the contrary, I had a very nice massage today at a nice MP. The massage was on the level of a cmt, I could tell she had training but she confessed that she didn't have a license. I went to an escort for my extras. Please read today's BP advertiser reviews.

I use to go to Panacea a long time ago and saw a girl named Nolee. It was the luck of the draw for me and it was my lucky day. Saw her about 5 times before she disappeared. She was there and gone before Trista arrived at Panacea. If anybody knows where Nolee is, please let me know. She was a great massuse and had other talents too.
I haven't been there lately, I wonder why?
Did I miss read his post? Does someone think I have DKS about Panacea?

[QUOTE=Benz1;2857419]On the contrary, I had a very nice massage today at a nice MP. The massage was on the level of a cmt, I could tell she had training but she confessed that she didn't have a license. I went to an escort for my extras. Please read today's BP advertiser reviews.

I use to go to Panacea a long time ago and saw a girl named Nolee. It was the luck of the draw for me and it was my lucky day. Saw her about 5 times before she disappeared. She was there and gone before Trista arrived at Panacea. If anybody knows where Nolee is, please let me know. She was a great massuse and had other talents too.
I haven't been there lately, I wonder why?
Did I miss read his post? Does someone think I have DKS about Panacea?[/QUOTE]Stick to what you know about. These rants about a place you went to 4 years ago help no one and hurt your credibility. And I thought you didn't bust balls? Consistency much?

Went to re-visit one of my past favorites today. Lexi use to work at Bella but since they closed she's at East West now. The place itself was as most mp's are. It was clean but quiet. Lexi was awesome at Bella but today she came off as bored and not happy to be doing what she does. Her massage is actually pretty good. She applies nice pressure and works everything. I tried to make some small talk but she didn't get into the conversation one bit. The last time she went topless for a 40 tip but this time she said that would cost more. Then she did a very mechanical HJ and wasn't into it whatsoever. She provided one of the least satisfying endings I've had. It's too bad cause she was one of my favorites before today. I guess in this game you can't win em all. I just hate spending $80 and not even feeling like your satisfied. On to the next I suppose!!

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lexi/23579007[/URL]

Maybe we should see if the Admin can setup a new section exclusively for White Knights to tie off their horses and store their shining armor.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2857685]Maybe we should see if the Admin can setup a new section exclusively for White Knights to tie off their horses and store their shining armor.[/QUOTE]I was thinking the same thing the past few days as vigorous defense and promotion goes on.

We all have a right to our opinions and to decide what is and isn't worthy of our hard earned money.

Many of us find the pre-service tip and the 40,40 60,60 expectation offensive to the customer.

I won't go there anymore until I hear that is over.

Some of you are loyal no matter what. That's your right too but don't get all irate on we who choose otherwise.

Put away your armor.

Benz and a few other Mongers want to know my go to Ladies for massage. The ones I see the most. Just a warning upfront, only 1 of them is under 38 yrs old! Also YMMV. The good ones take time and money. I have more fun with them now than my 1st or 2nd times. Unless you go straight to the Islands in Charlotte, where you might be a Porn Star on the first visit.

Mikki way over 50 and Jenny 40 ish at the Islands Charlotte, MI. 1 hr=60 + 100 tip. Table shower, sauna and anything goes. Especially with Mikki the Nympho. BBBJ CFS blah blah blah. Notorious time shorters unless you are the only guy in the building. They will totally drain your balls! Classic old school Asian MP.

Jenny and Happy at LA Portland. 1/2 hr=40 + 80 tip (negotiated). CBJ CFS GFE type makeout session. I had been there enough times they twice let me hang around when biz was slow. I updated their tablets and smartphones and they gave me a free reward, but I still had to give Mamasan another 40 for the room. Haven't been there in 4 months. 1 or both could be gone since these Korean places rotate staff alot. They may be hyper paranoid you are LE if they haven't seen you before. This place has been busted A LOT!

GR Ladies. Joy and Jessica at Relaxation Station. Jessica 27 ish Latina. Nude with roaming. Great nipples and tight ass. Still learning massage but great HJ Dirty Talker. Joy over 50 Thai Lady. Been seeing her over 10 yrs. Real Thai massage, stretching and cracks my neck. Always nude and on the table with me. A real Sweetheart. Always get full hour for 60 + 40 tip both Ladies. Joy will blow up your phone if she's slow on business. (Hobby Phone).

Rachel at Touch of Paradise. 38 ish Latina. Real Skilled Massage. Nice lady with Great Naturals. Yummy! Above average HJ Explosion. 60 hr + 40 tip. Never time shorts. Call ahead since she works the closing shift mainly. Most places Jennifer and Barry own the girls want 60 tip for an hour, so you may need to negotiate.

Tammy Pacific 44th and Pacific 28th. 48 yr old Vietnamese. Mom Viet, Father AA. Tight body with one of the nicest set of natural Deez I've played with. Firm! Great Nips! Tammy has real massage skills and is strong. If asked for, she can really kick ass on the muscles. I can't hold out very long with her HJ. Always 60 hr + 40 tip. No time shorting.

Torrie. Independent with her own office. 40 yr old Latina. NOT light skinned AA as 1 Monger has reviewed. Light pressure Relax rub with mutual nude massage. Round super firm ass!

Fun sense of humor. 60 hr + 40 tip. Sometimes hard to schedule with. No walk ins with her.

Newsflash: All of the mentioned Ladies know about this site. There is a MP Grapevine of sorts. When they have mentioned this site to me, I claim to know nothing about it. They don't like chuckleheads trying to get extras in exchange for a "good review"! They also each have lists of guys they try to avoid for various reasons. Non / cheap tipper, creepy, smelly, rude, etc. Don't get on those lists! Nothing wrong with negotiating and being a Gentleman at the same time.

Remember YMMV. Grand Rapids wasn't built in a day.

Monger on.

NJ.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2857685]Maybe we should see if the Admin can setup a new section exclusively for White Knights to tie off their horses and store their shining armor.[/QUOTE]Great idea. And while they are at it lets have them install about a half dozen hooks for all the haters who post shit about providers that they have no recent experience with, to hang their asshats.

[QUOTE=Monger01;2857936]I was thinking the same thing the past few days as vigorous defense and promotion goes on.

We all have a right to our opinions and to decide what is and isn't worthy of our hard earned money.

Many of us find the pre-service tip and the 40,40 60,60 expectation offensive to the customer.

I won't go there anymore until I hear that is over.

Some of you are loyal no matter what. That's your right too but don't get all irate on we who choose otherwise.

Put away your armor.[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention hater posts w / o recent knowledge. That shit adds nothing.

And the pre tip and 40/40 are a request not a requirement. If you have a hairy pair, you just politely explain what you want and when you will pay, no pressure, no problem. Let's stop misleading people.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2858053]Benz and a few other Mongers want to know my go to Ladies for massage. The ones I see the most. Just a warning upfront, only 1 of them is under 38 yrs old! Also YMMV. The good ones take time and money. I have more fun with them now than my 1st or 2nd times. Unless you go straight to the Islands in Charlotte, where you might be a Porn Star on the first visit.

Mikki way over 50 and Jenny 40 ish at the Islands Charlotte, MI. 1 hr=60 + 100 tip. Table shower, sauna and anything goes. Especially with Mikki the Nympho. BBBJ CFS blah blah blah. Notorious time shorters unless you are the only guy in the building. They will totally drain your balls! Classic old school Asian MP.

Jenny and Happy at LA Portland. 1/2 hr=40 + 80 tip (negotiated). CBJ CFS GFE type makeout session. I had been there enough times they twice let me hang around when biz was slow. I updated their tablets and smartphones and they gave me a free reward, but I still had to give Mamasan another 40 for the room. Haven't been there in 4 months. 1 or both could be gone since these Korean places rotate staff alot. They may be hyper paranoid you are LE if they haven't seen you before. This place has been busted A LOT!

GR Ladies. Joy and Jessica at Relaxation Station. Jessica 27 ish Latina. Nude with roaming. Great nipples and tight ass. Still learning massage but great HJ Dirty Talker. Joy over 50 Thai Lady. Been seeing her over 10 yrs. Real Thai massage, stretching and cracks my neck. Always nude and on the table with me. A real Sweetheart. Always get full hour for 60 + 40 tip both Ladies. Joy will blow up your phone if she's slow on business. (Hobby Phone).

Rachel at Touch of Paradise. 38 ish Latina. Real Skilled Massage. Nice lady with Great Naturals. Yummy! Above average HJ Explosion. 60 hr + 40 tip. Never time shorts. Call ahead since she works the closing shift mainly. Most places Jennifer and Barry own the girls want 60 tip for an hour, so you may need to negotiate.

Tammy Pacific 44th and Pacific 28th. 48 yr old Vietnamese. Mom Viet, Father AA. Tight body with one of the nicest set of natural Deez I've played with. Firm! Great Nips! Tammy has real massage skills and is strong. If asked for, she can really kick ass on the muscles. I can't hold out very long with her HJ. Always 60 hr + 40 tip. No time shorting.

Torrie. Independent with her own office. 40 yr old Latina. NOT light skinned AA as 1 Monger has reviewed. Light pressure Relax rub with mutual nude massage. Round super firm ass!

Fun sense of humor. 60 hr + 40 tip. Sometimes hard to schedule with. No walk ins with her.

Newsflash: All of the mentioned Ladies know about this site. There is a MP Grapevine of sorts. When they have mentioned this site to me, I claim to know nothing about it. They don't like chuckleheads trying to get extras in exchange for a "good review"! They also each have lists of guys they try to avoid for various reasons. Non / cheap tipper, creepy, smelly, rude, etc. Don't get on those lists! Nothing wrong with negotiating and being a Gentleman at the same time.

Remember YMMV. Grand Rapids wasn't built in a day.

Monger on.

NJ.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the list NJ. I'm not suprised that most of them are older than 37. My experience has been the same, mature women give better massages than young girls.

I'm suprised that you let the whole city see the list, instead of sending out PM. Now it might take you a month or two to get an appointment with one of your favorite ladies.

Thank you for your time and sacrifice NJ.

[QUOTE=Benz1;2858387]I'm suprised that you let the whole city see the list, instead of sending out PM. Now it might take you a month or two to get an appointment with one of your favorite ladies.[/QUOTE]MuthaF*er! Didn't think that far ahead Benz!

GrandPa always said that No good deed goes unpunished!

Enjoy yourselves Mongers! I know I sure have.

NJ.

Seen sunshine a few days ago.

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sunshine/23879612[/URL]

I knew from the pictures she was not going to be a small girl but I was a little taken back on how big she was. The first picture of her in blue is absolutely stunning and in person she does have a pretty face. When the massage started I forgot everything. She was so sensual, caring, and kind. Was one of the most relaxing rubs ever.

She is super sweet, fun, and I think she has the cutest voice ever. Left happy for $.

[QUOTE=PickyPicky;2829464]1. ha! At a recent physical I was informed that the exam referenced above is rarely conducted anymore as it never detected anything and "some people avoided seeing their doctor because it. " I'm thinking now some people will avoid seeing their doctors without it.

2. Good experiences at the massage place on Breton just south of 28th street in the center of a right-angled strip mall, between a nail salon and exercise place. Three times with "Emily," once with "Lucy. " They're not exactly lookers, but pleasant enough and very agreeable personalities and provide the kind of massages I enjoy, especially when some teasing is followed with a touch of the boys, an inquisitive look and a simple, "this?" No mention of a tip. Massage is $60, I've handed over $40 or $50 on the way out. No objections from either when roaming beneath shirt; I haven't gotten around to exploring anything more. I'm happy to lie back and enjoy their excellent technique.[/QUOTE]Went here the other day and agree about the massage. Don't know who I saw, no name given. Told me $60/ hr. I asked about the new client price of $50, she said she does not speak English. Went into the room, a miracle occurred and she could now speak English. Massage is very good, I did not get the degree of teasing you did but good enough for first visit. Extra wide table with lots of padding. Nice looking place.

[QUOTE=UtrGuy;2859897]Seen sunshine a few days ago.

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sunshine/23879612[/URL]

I knew from the pictures she was not going to be a small girl but I was a little taken back on how big she was. The first picture of her in blue is absolutely stunning and in person she does have a pretty face. When the massage started I forgot everything. She was so sensual, caring, and kind. Was one of the most relaxing rubs ever.

She is super sweet, fun, and I think she has the cutest voice ever. Left happy for $.[/QUOTE]Do you think she's a potential BBBJ giver?

[QUOTE=UtrGuy;2859897]Seen sunshine a few days ago.

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sunshine/23879612[/URL]

I knew from the pictures she was not going to be a small girl but I was a little taken back on how big she was. The first picture of her in blue is absolutely stunning and in person she does have a pretty face. When the massage started I forgot everything. She was so sensual, caring, and kind. Was one of the most relaxing rubs ever.

She is super sweet, fun, and I think she has the cutest voice ever. Left happy for $.[/QUOTE]I'm a bit afraid to ask, and mind you I'll probably still go see her, but how big did she get?

[QUOTE=PickyPicky;2829464]1. ha! At a recent physical I was informed that the exam referenced above is rarely conducted anymore as it never detected anything and "some people avoided seeing their doctor because it. " I'm thinking now some people will avoid seeing their doctors without it.

2. Good experiences at the massage place on Breton just south of 28th street in the center of a right-angled strip mall, between a nail salon and exercise place. Three times with "Emily," once with "Lucy. " They're not exactly lookers, but pleasant enough and very agreeable personalities and provide the kind of massages I enjoy, especially when some teasing is followed with a touch of the boys, an inquisitive look and a simple, "this?" No mention of a tip. Massage is $60, I've handed over $40 or $50 on the way out. No objections from either when roaming beneath shirt; I haven't gotten around to exploring anything more. I'm happy to lie back and enjoy their excellent technique.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about a rectal exam? If you are saying they never identify anything you are mistaken. I owe my life to a digital exam that discovered my prostate cancer in time for surgery to remove it safely. One reason prostate cancer often spreads is our reluctance to get examined until it is too late. Yes, it is uncomfortable and the biopsy is even more uncomfortable but I enjoy living and am happy my doctor found the cancer in time.

She's a big girl, nice tattoos, big beautiful breasts, and a pretty face. I didn't find her to be disgusting all at, great hygiene. But she was so sensual I forgot about her size.

I don't think BBBJ is an option but I didn't try either.

I really enjoyed my time with her and think it was money well spent.

[QUOTE=PickyPicky;2829464]1. ha! At a recent physical I was informed that the exam referenced above is rarely conducted anymore as it never detected anything and "some people avoided seeing their doctor because it. " I'm thinking now some people will avoid seeing their doctors without it.

2. Good experiences at the massage place on Breton just south of 28th street in the center of a right-angled strip mall, between a nail salon and exercise place. Three times with "Emily," once with "Lucy. " They're not exactly lookers, but pleasant enough and very agreeable personalities and provide the kind of massages I enjoy, especially when some teasing is followed with a touch of the boys, an inquisitive look and a simple, "this?" No mention of a tip. Massage is $60, I've handed over $40 or $50 on the way out. No objections from either when roaming beneath shirt; I haven't gotten around to exploring anything more. I'm happy to lie back and enjoy their excellent technique.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Otto22;2860741]Are you talking about a rectal exam? If you are saying they never identify anything you are mistaken. I owe my life to a digital exam that discovered my prostate cancer in time for surgery to remove it safely. One reason prostate cancer often spreads is our reluctance to get examined until it is too late. Yes, it is uncomfortable and the biopsy is even more uncomfortable but I enjoy living and am happy my doctor found the cancer in time.[/QUOTE]So Emily is offering up standard HE to the boys. Used to get mileage out of Jenny. Haven't tried new girl there.