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[QUOTE=Alexanderd249;1166419]Has anyone been with shay_shay23? In am traveling up to Indiana this weekend. I have found some posts on the internet that she has worked with LE. Has anyone seen her lately?[/QUOTE]Sense you don't remember me, I'm sure you don't remember this one either?
[QUOTE=Jackass2;1170296]Sense you don't remember me, I'm sure you don't remember this one either?[/QUOTE]Oh, the guy with two posts? The one who heard a rumor on the internets somewhere? Hell, we all remember him.
[QUOTE=Pinnacle23; 1170269]Tony,
That number pops up a lot on different sites and it is always a different name & picture so google the phone number and do your home work, but the consensus seems to be stay away she is a scam. A quick search came up with 4 names & pics on 4 different sites on the first page alone, Kitty, Erica, Emily, & Lorri.
Be safe[/QUOTE]I have heard the same thing over the past few months
[QUOTE=B Beall;1170543]Oh, the guy with two posts? The one who heard a rumor on the internets somewhere? Hell, we all remember him.[/QUOTE]I did NOT credit his posting nor his PM to me any attention. For the simple fact my research only came back with positive feedback on Shay. Hence, my interest and scheduling with her. I was only curious as to why she only defended my review.
[QUOTE=Jackass2;1170786]I did NOT credit his posting nor his PM to me any attention.[/QUOTE]That's fortunate, because it doesn't deserve any.
[QUOTE=Jackass2; 1170786For the simple fact my research only came back with positive feedback on Shay. Hence, my interest and scheduling with her. I was only curious as to why she only defended my review. [/QUOTE]I've never had the pleasure of her company, and I wouldn't presume to speak for her, but maybe it's that 1) you made specific complaints while 2) the other guy never saw her, but trotted out "I heard she's LE", which deserves no reply besides hunting him down and cutting off his fingers, though that would be wrong. You stated your piece. Your right. She replied. That's her right. You're never going to get any more satisfaction out of this beyond what you got typing it the first time.
She's got a solid reputation around town, based on several years as a provider. You're a guy with a complaint. Game, set, and match. Don't be dragging in this LE shite; it does no one any good. Just accept the cold comfort that you complained, and move on. Better yet, do what it takes to make up with her, be on your best behavior, and have a great time. I've tried both, and believe me, that beats the hell out of fumin'.
Just read on the L'ville escorts board (I saw someone down there last summer who went by "Blue") where someone considered $$ "steep." Jesus F. Bawls, fellas. Can the chick have a burger with those fries? I mean see'mon, I can remember the day when the base tag was $$$. WTF! Now I'm not posting this to tick off any of the senior members, but I think if someone considers $$ steep, then maybe that someone should either get out of the game or start combing street corners for his "entertainment" purposes. It's us hobbyists. And not the providers. Who've taken most of the "class" out of the game. I mean if the sluggish economy has spanked you that hard and you got to sit down and cut coupons while you're checking out what's on the BP / e. Com menu, then maybe a change of scenery should be considered.
Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.
BFDeal (formerly Uncle Cletus, and I didn't change name to play games; I couldn't log on as UC after the great 2010 redesign)
Just read on the L'ville escorts board (I saw someone down there last summer who went by "Blue," and posted on there, too) where someone considered $$ "steep." Jesus F. Bawls, fellas. Can the chick have a burger with those fries? I mean come on, I can remember the day when the base tag was $$$. WTF! Now I'm not posting this to tick off any of the senior members, but I think if someone considers $$ steep, then maybe that someone should either get out of the game or start combing street corners for his "entertainment" purposes. It's us hobbyists. And not the providers. Who've taken most of the "class" out of the game. I mean if the sluggish economy has spanked you that hard and you got to sit down and cut coupons while you're checking out what's on the BP and e. Com menus, then maybe a change of scenery should be considered.
Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.
BFDeal (formerly Uncle Cletus, and I didn't change name to play games; I couldn't log on as UC after the great 2010 redesign)
Just read on the L'ville escorts board (I saw someone down there last summer who went by "Blue," and I posted on there, too) where someone considered $$ "steep." Jesus F. Bawls, fellas! Can the chick have a burger with those fries? I mean come on! I can remember the day when the base tag was $$$. WTF! Now I'm not posting this to tick off any of the senior members, but I think if someone considers $$ steep, then maybe that someone should either get out of the game or start combing the street corners for his "entertainment" purposes. It's us hobbyists, and not the providers, who've taken most of the "class" out of the game. I mean if the sluggish economy has spanked you that badly and you have got to sit down and cut coupons while you're checking out what's on the BP and edotcom menus, then maybe a change of scenery should be considered.
Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.
BFDeal (formerly Uncle Cletus, and I didn't change name to play games; I couldn't log on as UC after the great 2010 redesign)
[QUOTE=BFDeal;1171912]Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.[/QUOTE]This statement is nothing more than your opinion and just because you have it doesn't mean it's right. The situation is totally subjective to each individual, there is no one size fits all answer. And while I'm glad you have money falling out of your pockets, the rest of your post shows pure arrogance and absolutely no understanding that many people's financial difficulties are not of their own making. For you to pass judgement on others and be telling them what they should do is just plain wrong and is an indication of very poor character.
[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1171912]Just read on the L'ville escorts board (I saw someone down there last summer who went by "Blue") where someone considered $$ "steep." Jesus F. Bawls, fellas. Can the chick have a burger with those fries? I mean see'mon, I can remember the day when the base tag was $$$. WTF! Now I'm not posting this to tick off any of the senior members, but I think if someone considers $$ steep, then maybe that someone should either get out of the game or start combing street corners for his "entertainment" purposes. It's us hobbyists. And not the providers. Who've taken most of the "class" out of the game. I mean if the sluggish economy has spanked you that hard and you got to sit down and cut coupons while you're checking out what's on the BP / e. Com menu, then maybe a change of scenery should be considered.
Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.
BFDeal (formerly Uncle Cletus, and I didn't change name to play games; I couldn't log on as UC after the great 2010 redesign) [/QUOTE]I disagree. If you've never come across a provider who isn't worth $$, either you haven't seen many providers or you're blessed by powerful spirits who watch over you. Either way, your opinion is in the minority.
Please. There's honor in being poor but honest; there's nothing but shame in being rich and a dick, like Tim Durham. Unfortunately the latter get the expensive toys.
What's plain wrong is taking frustrations over the unfairness of life out on providers who charge what the market will bear *just like hundreds of thousands of profit-making businesses do around you every hour of every day* Are you insulted that the liquor store charges more for Dom Perignon than a short dog of rotgut?
[QUOTE=B Beall; 1172174]Please. There's honor in being poor but honest; there's nothing but shame in being rich and a dick, like Tim Durham. Unfortunately the latter get the expensive toys.
What's plain wrong is taking frustrations over the unfairness of life out on providers who charge what the market will bear *just like hundreds of thousands of profit-making businesses do around you every hour of every day* Are you insulted that the liquor store charges more for Dom Perignon than a short dog of rotgut? [/QUOTE]No, but when I pay for Dom Perignon, I expect to actually get the full bottle and that is actually made in France and not a cheap bottle of crap.
The real problem is that there are some providers out there that are worth every penny the charge. There are others who aren't worth half.
Which brings me to my point. Differentiating between the two is the point of this board. So, lets not argue over what people are willing to pay. Lets just get back to reporting on providers and let the market decide.
Speaking of which, I forgot to submit a report on my last Backpage experience.
You're right that the market will bear what the market will bear. I'm curious how you feel on the other end where girls in some parts of the country give uncovered bjs to completion for a mere 20 bucks or less. I hate to sound like a moralist but there must be a happy medium. Escorts charging as much as many lawyers who worked hard and put themselves in financial peril via massive student loans does seem a bit unfair to me. At the same time do escorts provide an essential service we cannot live without like food and heat, and transportation? These areas of price gouging should be frowned on much more readily.
A piece of advice to you gentlemen that need a break financially when it comes to escorts. IME I've found that most escorts will give you a half hour over even 15 to 20 minute rate often for a little as a $. You need to be careful you make sure this is for a flat rate. In any case I've also found that every escorts I've ever asked (and there have been many) for a return client discount has given it to me. Believe it or not I've gotten rates for less than 50 dollars before. Usually I start out between a 100 to 150 then after sometimes years work my way down after we have established a very good report. I try to make my time more than just about me. If both of you are having a good time and are friends you'd be surprised at what they'd be willing to give.
So in short research and find the good providers. See and pay them what they want upfront. Then ask for discounts are time goes by. Believe me I could not have hobbied this long seeing this many escorts without it. I'm simply just not that rich. Well more technically I'm not rich at all but more accurately getting by.
[QUOTE=B Beall; 1172174]Please. There's honor in being poor but honest; there's nothing but shame in being rich and a dick, like Tim Durham. Unfortunately the latter get the expensive toys.
What's plain wrong is taking frustrations over the unfairness of life out on providers who charge what the market will bear *just like hundreds of thousands of profit-making businesses do around you every hour of every day* Are you insulted that the liquor store charges more for Dom Perignon than a short dog of rotgut? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wulfgar; 1172209]The real problem is that there are some providers out there that are worth every penny the charge. There are others who aren't worth half.
Which brings me to my point. Differentiating between the two is the point of this board. So, lets not argue over what people are willing to pay. Lets just get back to reporting on providers and let the market decide. [/QUOTE]Did Uncle Cletus claim that every provider is worth $$? Did I? Nobody disputes that some aren't. The point was about objecting to $$ as the going rate, period, regardless of who's asking. We just went through this, and it was made abundantly clear that most guys who patronize escorts are happy to pay that and more to a good one. For those who want cut-rate services there's a Backpage and a Streetwalker board.
[QUOTE=Luchi;1172219]Escorts charging as much as many lawyers who worked hard and put themselves in financial peril via massive student loans does seem a bit unfair to me. At the same time do escorts provide an essential service we cannot live without like food and heat, and transportation? These areas of price gouging should be frowned on much more readily.[/QUOTE]We live in a meritocracy now? I guess I slept through it. Last I knew people with no musical training and marginal talent were winning teevee contests and signing multi-million dollar contracts, while classically-trained musicians work for scale. And people earn hundreds of millions for throwing a ball, while artists starve. That's an absurd comparison; if no escort was worth $$, no escort would be charging $$. And like most guys, I'd rather be screwed by a good courtesan than a great lawyer any day.
If you want cut rate services, go find 'them. Don't complain that everybody else doesn't.
[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1172125]Just read on the L'ville escorts board (I saw someone down there last summer who went by "Blue," and I posted on there, too) where someone considered $$ "steep." Jesus F. Bawls, fellas! Can the chick have a burger with those fries? I mean come on! I can remember the day when the base tag was $$$. WTF! Now I'm not posting this to tick off any of the senior members, but I think if someone considers $$ steep, then maybe that someone should either get out of the game or start combing the street corners for his "entertainment" purposes. It's us hobbyists, and not the providers, who've taken most of the "class" out of the game. I mean if the sluggish economy has spanked you that badly and you have got to sit down and cut coupons while you're checking out what's on the BP and edotcom menus, then maybe a change of scenery should be considered.
Bottom line: $$ is more than reasonable for any FS provider.
BFDeal (formerly Uncle Cletus, and I didn't change name to play games; I couldn't log on as UC after the great 2010 redesign) [/QUOTE]I agree that this poster does seem a bit arrogant and with what I am about to say I may sound arrogant also and I truly mean no arrogance but it may be taken that way. First of all it is a classic supply and demand situation. I have been to Brazil, The Carribbean and Asia mongering and I have paid as little as $15 for FS from young fit and attractive providers that if they worked in this city would get the $$$ an hour. Every trip I make inevitably on the plane I calculate how much money I could make if I could fly 20 or so of them over build a brothel and open it for business. It is the fact that this activity is illegal that drives the price up more than the quality of the provider.
I realize that there are those that will say, with merit I add, that many of the women in these locations that I speak of do not live under the same rights and privlidges that we all do here in the United States. Their imposed, for lack of a better word, self worth is many times percieved less than we do as Americans. That and real economic situations in these countries and more so in the countries the the girls come from such as Columbia, Panama, Banglash (sp.) , Tiawan, Kenya etc bring the price to the lower levels. I have seen two girls in rooms 10ft from each other with similar appeareances be $250 dollars apart for the same service. Again its each persons choice. Supply and demand. McDonalds charges 99 cents for a hamburger, St Elmo's charges $48 for a fillet. I've had both and they both satisfy me.
A final thought about discounts. Alot of providers don't have steady boyfriends. They have sexual needs as well. It is my opinion that if you are a healthy, attractive male with a strong presence in the bedroom and can stimulate and satisfy a provider that they will give you a better rate than they would give an overweight, unattractive client. That is in my opinion the strongest factor when I see a reference to YMMV. Basically if they want to screw you, you shouldn't have to pay as much as you would if they don't.
[QUOTE=Tim P14; 1172327] (edit delete)
(I)f you are a healthy, attractive male with a strong presence in the bedroom and can stimulate and satisfy a provider that they will give you a better rate than they would give an overweight, unattractive client. (edit delete) [/QUOTE][U]If I was[/U] a healthy, attractive [U]male escort[/U] with a strong presence in the bedroom and can stimulate and satisfy a [U]woman no way would I do[/U] an overweight, unattractive [U]female client for $300 (1) or $600 (2) [/U]. No way. I don't see how some of the girls can bring themselves to do some of us. They earn every dime they get. JMO.
[QUOTE=Golfcart;1172339][U]If I was[/U] a healthy, attractive [U]male escort[/U] with a strong presence in the bedroom and can stimulate and satisfy a [U]woman no way would I do[/U] an overweight, unattractive [U]female client for $300 (1) or $600 (2) [/U]. No way. I don't see how some of the girls can bring themselves to do some of us. They earn every dime they get. JMO.[/QUOTE]I have said this all along, I could never and will not do an overweight or ugly female. Not that I am Mr. GQ just will not settle. No Idea how Cate and several other attractive ladies do it, they have strong stomachs I guess.
Mymopar
[QUOTE=B Beall; 1172325]We live in a meritocracy now? I guess I slept through it. Last I knew people with no musical training and marginal talent were winning teevee contests and signing multi-million dollar contracts, while classically-trained musicians work for scale. And people earn hundreds of millions for throwing a ball, while artists starve. That's an absurd comparison; if no escort was worth $$, no escort would be charging $$. And like most guys, I'd rather be screwed by a good courtesan than a great lawyer any day.
If you want cut rate services, go find 'them. Don't complain that everybody else doesn't. [/QUOTE]Maybe you've mistaken me but I'm not complaining one bit. If you consider paying less than $$ cut rate than I've already found that by some very mainstream providers not streetwalkers.
What I was trying to do is give helpful advise to those who feel the sting of paying for them big bucks. Not everyone is as well off as some. I wish I could pay $$$ every time and not have to worry about it. Thankfully I've found a system that has worked.
Also I tend to by nature try to develop sincere relations with the escorts I meet. Most seem to feel the same way as it often reflects in time with what one might term as a friendship rate. In the end everyone wins as I see the escorts many more times than if I was paying full price in which they make much more money than they otherwise would, and we both enjoy our time together. Win win is what I am going for not whine whine.;)
By the way I completely agree, I'd rather be screwed by an escort than a lawyer. LOL :)
Had a recent trip to Chicago and wanted to post some info on our board, just in case some of you travel or have some interesting fetishes to explore. Here is a link to the post:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5225-Escort-Reports&p=1172024&viewfull=1#post1172024[/url]
PS. No freckles on this trip.
Again, I didn't write my original post to try to offend anyone. I was just stunned when I read that someone considered $$ "steep." Again, it's on the L'ville escorts reports board. I'm not arrogant, nor am I wealthy. I'm not a native Hoosier, which really doesn't mean much I guess. I don't live paycheck to paycheck, either. I guess it's startling to me that us hobbyists actually try to "negotiate" when it comes to this thing. When we stop and think about what's being negotiated, it's kind of ludicrous. I'm not a fan of BP because I read about more horror stories about that site. But because of this notion that $$ is considered steep by some, er, by many I guess, it enables BP and some of the providers who advertise on there to exist and even prosper in some ways. Why would we try to play the "game" with a site that, in my opinion on what I've read and heard, advertises or promotes providers who basically are trying to scam hobbyists? I'd say 6 out of every 10 ads, again based on what I've read on message boards like these, feature either phony pictures or are posted by providers trying to scam (what usually results in a cash and dash) hobbyists. That's what I mean by devaluing or taking the "class" out of the game. Most of the providers have lowered rates to try to create more biz and that's fine, and most don't have time or money to market themselves with an extravagant Web site featuring pics of themselves wearing sexy lingerie or, in some cases, nothing at all. I'm more than pleased with the providers I've seen recently. I just feel that, based on what true FS providers do to make us hobbyists relax and help relieve the tensions that go along with stressful jobs and the day-to-day tumultuous anarchy that life has to offer, $$ is more than fair. But hey, what do I know? I'm supposed to know computers pretty well and it still takes me several times to log on to this Web site. Ha!
BFDeal (formerly UC)
[QUOTE=B Beall; 1172325]Did Uncle Cletus claim that every provider is worth $$? Did I? Nobody disputes that some aren't. The point was about objecting to $$ as the going rate, period, regardless of who's asking. We just went through this, and it was made abundantly clear that most guys who patronize escorts are happy to pay that and more to a good one. For those who want cut-rate services there's a Backpage and a Streetwalker board.
We live in a meritocracy now? I guess I slept through it. Last I knew people with no musical training and marginal talent were winning teevee contests and signing multi-million dollar contracts, while classically-trained musicians work for scale. And people earn hundreds of millions for throwing a ball, while artists starve. That's an absurd comparison; if no escort was worth $$, no escort would be charging $$. And like most guys, I'd rather be screwed by a good courtesan than a great lawyer any day.
If you want cut rate services, go find 'them. Don't complain that everybody else doesn't. [/QUOTE]
Again, I didn't write my original post to try to offend anyone. I was just stunned when I read that someone considered $$ "steep." Again, it's on the L'ville escorts reports board. I'm not arrogant, nor am I wealthy. I'm not a native Hoosier, which really doesn't mean much I guess. I don't live paycheck to paycheck, either. I guess it's startling to me that us hobbyists actually try to "negotiate" when it comes to this thing. When we stop and think about what's being negotiated, it's kind of ludicrous. I'm not a fan of BP because I read about more horror stories about that site. But because of this notion that $$ is considered steep by some, er, by many I guess, it enables BP and some of the providers who advertise on there to exist and even prosper in some ways. Why would we try to play the "game" with a site that, in my opinion on what I've read and heard, advertises or promotes providers who basically are trying to scam hobbyists? I'd say 6 out of every 10 ads, again based on what I've read on message boards like these, feature either phony pictures or are posted by providers trying to scam (what usually results in a cash and dash) hobbyists. That's what I mean by devaluing or taking the "class" out of the game. Most of the providers have lowered rates to try to create more biz and that's fine, and most don't have time or money to market themselves with an extravagant Web site featuring pics of themselves wearing sexy lingerie or, in some cases, nothing at all. I'm more than pleased with the providers I've seen recently. I just feel that, based on what true FS providers do to make us hobbyists relax and help relieve the tensions that go along with stressful jobs and the day-to-day tumultuous anarchy that life has to offer, $$ is more than fair. But hey, what do I know? I'm supposed to know computers pretty well and it still takes me several times to log on to this Web site. Ha!
BFDeal (formerly UC)
[QUOTE=B Beall; 1172325]Did Uncle Cletus claim that every provider is worth $$? Did I? Nobody disputes that some aren't. The point was about objecting to $$ as the going rate, period, regardless of who's asking. We just went through this, and it was made abundantly clear that most guys who patronize escorts are happy to pay that and more to a good one. For those who want cut-rate services there's a Backpage and a Streetwalker board.
We live in a meritocracy now? I guess I slept through it. Last I knew people with no musical training and marginal talent were winning teevee contests and signing multi-million dollar contracts, while classically-trained musicians work for scale. And people earn hundreds of millions for throwing a ball, while artists starve. That's an absurd comparison; if no escort was worth $$, no escort would be charging $$. And like most guys, I'd rather be screwed by a good courtesan than a great lawyer any day.
If you want cut rate services, go find 'them. Don't complain that everybody else doesn't. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1172547]Again, I didn't write my original post to try to offend anyone. I was just stunned when I read that someone considered $$ "steep." Again, it's on the L'ville escorts reports board. I'm not arrogant, nor am I wealthy. I'm not a native Hoosier, which really doesn't mean much I guess. I don't live paycheck to paycheck, either. I guess it's startling to me that us hobbyists actually try to "negotiate" when it comes to this thing. When we stop and think about what's being negotiated, it's kind of ludicrous. I'm not a fan of BP because I read about more horror stories about that site. But because of this notion that $$ is considered steep by some, er, by many I guess, it enables BP and some of the providers who advertise on there to exist and even prosper in some ways. Why would we try to play the "game" with a site that, in my opinion on what I've read and heard, advertises or promotes providers who basically are trying to scam hobbyists? I'd say 6 out of every 10 ads, again based on what I've read on message boards like these, feature either phony pictures or are posted by providers trying to scam (what usually results in a cash and dash) hobbyists. That's what I mean by devaluing or taking the "class" out of the game. Most of the providers have lowered rates to try to create more biz and that's fine, and most don't have time or money to market themselves with an extravagant Web site featuring pics of themselves wearing sexy lingerie or, in some cases, nothing at all. I'm more than pleased with the providers I've seen recently. I just feel that, based on what true FS providers do to make us hobbyists relax and help relieve the tensions that go along with stressful jobs and the day-to-day tumultuous anarchy that life has to offer, $$ is more than fair. But hey, what do I know? I'm supposed to know computers pretty well and it still takes me several times to log on to this Web site. Ha!
BFDeal (formerly UC)[/QUOTE]Oh sure it is available everywhere but not in the quantity to meet the demands; hence, the price that is offered and agreed to might seem higher than what some would hope to pay, or be able to appreciate. Also the fact that it is an unregulated industry, not to mention illegal, drives the price higher than what would be required if it was open, regulated and legal. So the bottom line is, no one is forced to participate or pay anything that they deem exhorbitant. So cut your best deal and go with it. Obviously those of us that regularly participate with the well reviewed ladies must see value there or else they wouldn't be able to charge that.
Everyone wants to drive a Porsche (or Mercedes, or you fill in the _______ blank) , but there is a reason why the sub compact models outsell the luxury model 10 to 1. The Champagne taste and the Beer budget has been around since the inception of free markets, but a lot of Champagne is still sold, and enjoyed highly by some / many.
I think I will have another glass or two of Dom Perignon.
Our currency is worth more that is only factor. If the Euro is 2 to 1 dollar then our European brothers would claim its a good deal to come here cause a $1, 000 an hour top of the line escort can be had for 500 euro. Just like our dollar is 1 to 10 pesos you could get a 1000 peso an hour Escort for a 100 hundred dollars.
[QUOTE=BFDeal;1172547]I just feel that, based on what true FS providers do to make us hobbyists relax and help relieve the tensions that go along with stressful jobs and the day-to-day tumultuous anarchy that life has to offer, $$ is more than fair. But hey, what do I know? [/QUOTE]And, look, this points out that we aren't even talking about the same thing. If all someone wants is an anonymous blowjob, or twenty minutes of sexual release, then $$ is no doubt an extravagance. Similarly, if someone thinks talking a hungry woman into a sub-$ half-hour proves something about pricing he is at the very least assuming that he gets the same experience with a quickie that someone else gets over 2-3 hours or more. I think there are any number of experienced hobbyists here who'll say that extra time, extra consideration, the trip to Sybaris, the nice tip, or a good dinner, pays off a lot more than saving fifty bucks does.
Hey, to each his own. All I can say from my own experience, and that of like-minded hobbyists, anyone who thinks he's nickel and diming his way to the best service available is fooling himself.
[url]http://www.escorts.com/member/2836812/yourstwotake[/url]
New listing on E. Com this morning. I assume that this one is to good to be true. My tin eye skills and other investigative tools are non existent. Can someone check this one out? If someone has and knows her a PM would be appreciated.
Tim.
[QUOTE=B Beall; 1172826]And, look, this points out that we aren't even talking about the same thing. If all someone wants is an anonymous blowjob, or twenty minutes of sexual release, then $$ is no doubt an extravagance. Similarly, if someone thinks talking a hungry woman into a sub-$ half-hour proves something about pricing he is at the very least assuming that he gets the same experience with a quickie that someone else gets over 2-3 hours or more. I think there are any number of experienced hobbyists here who'll say that extra time, extra consideration, the trip to Sybaris, the nice tip, or a good dinner, pays off a lot more than saving fifty bucks does.
Hey, to each his own. All I can say from my own experience, and that of like-minded hobbyists, anyone who thinks he's nickel and diming his way to the best service available is fooling himself. [/QUOTE]We all try to find the best deal possible. I have found some AMP with better service for way less then other. SW better service for less then other. BP provider same. I do believe that $.5 for a BP or other web site is it. You do however could find a $$$$ provider that is worth it but you still could find the same service for less. To each there owned. Be safe.
[QUOTE=Tim P14; 1173178]
[url]http://www.escorts.com/member/2836812/yourstwotake[/url]
New listing on E. Com this morning. I assume that this one is to good to be true. My tin eye skills and other investigative tools are non existent. Can someone check this one out? If someone has and knows her a PM would be appreciated.
Tim. [/QUOTE]E uses a convoluted scheme to keep people from copying photos, so using Tineye is a little tougher than other sites. Nevertheless, after a little research, I came up with this site:
[url]http://www.nngalleries.com/gallery2/xoxo-leah-leah-featured-in-stunning-red-bra-and-panties-2564.html[/url]
She's a moderately famous camgirl.
[QUOTE=West Central; 1173230]E uses a convoluted scheme to keep people from copying photos, so using Tineye is a little tougher than other sites. Nevertheless, after a little research, I came up with this site:
[url]http://www.nngalleries.com/gallery2/xoxo-leah-leah-featured-in-stunning-red-bra-and-panties-2564.html[/url]
She's a moderately famous camgirl. [/QUOTE]I'm wondering if anyone called and asked her for her name. Is it the camgirl do service now or someone taking her pictures.
[QUOTE=Tim P14; 1173178]
[url]http://www.escorts.com/member/2836812/yourstwotake[/url]
New listing on E. Com this morning. I assume that this one is to good to be true. My tin eye skills and other investigative tools are non existent. Can someone check this one out? If someone has and knows her a PM would be appreciated.
Tim. [/QUOTE]Emailed. Wants 50% up front.
Anyone seen her yet? She also has an add on Nuvo Kimmy sweet blonde vixon!
[QUOTE=Davidonecall;1173256]I'm wondering if anyone called and asked her for her name. Is it the camgirl do service now or someone taking her pictures.[/QUOTE]Here's her reply to me. Bottom line she wants 50% deposit up front (probably a guy scammer, LOL)
Thank you for contact me again and I want to let you know I have a webcam and more pictures for you to see if you want. I offer ATF CBJ or without Bag Bareback BBBJ BBBJTC BBBJCIM BDSM FS / GFE BF BFE CIM Cowgirl DATY GFE GREEK Hand Job and many more but before we go into all that I would like you to go through my rates to be sure that we are on the same path here.
Below are my rates and screening methods.
• 1 HOURS. 300 ROSES.
•24 HOURS. 1000 ROSES.
•OVERNIGHT. 800 ROSES.
SCREENING REQUIREMENT IS TO MAKE A DEPOSIT OF 50% OF MY ROSES UPFRONT. READ ESCORT. COM DEFINATION OF SCREENING BELOW.
Screening: A provider or agency does a pre-session background check on a new client. E. G. Upfront deposits may also be used as a screening tool to hedge against no-shows
[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu; 1173362]Here's her reply to me. Bottom line she wants 50% deposit up front (probably a guy scammer, LOL)
Thank you for contact me again and I want to let you know I have a webcam and more pictures for you to see if you want. I offer ATF CBJ or without Bag Bareback BBBJ BBBJTC BBBJCIM BDSM FS / GFE BF BFE CIM Cowgirl DATY GFE GREEK Hand Job and many more but before we go into all that I would like you to go through my rates to be sure that we are on the same path here.
Below are my rates and screening methods.
• 1 HOURS. 300 ROSES.
•24 HOURS. 1000 ROSES.
•OVERNIGHT. 800 ROSES.
SCREENING REQUIREMENT IS TO MAKE A DEPOSIT OF 50% OF MY ROSES UPFRONT. READ ESCORT. COM DEFINATION OF SCREENING BELOW.
Screening: A provider or agency does a pre-session background check on a new client. E. G. Upfront deposits may also be used as a screening tool to hedge against no-shows[/QUOTE]It really sound like a scam. Why would I give up $.5 when I can have other providers for the same amount for an hour and it's the full price. Sorry I'm holding on to my money.
I don't know what's up with all the nitpicking in this thread. The shared info on ladies is sometimes decent.
I see it as your mileage may vary. We all have our comfort zone pay and play range or price / activity points of resistance. If you can get lots of fun for what your both comfortable with, go with it!
I had a nice dream this weekend about a local lady who was willing to go beyond normal session to help me out. That made a big positive impression for me. And yes she had some freckles, but I'm pretty sure FF already knows her.
[quote]I'm supposed to know computers pretty well and it still takes me several times to log on to this Web site. Ha![/quote]Ahaha.
I find myself double looking at the "warning" page because it looks like the blue screen of death.
[quote]They have sexual needs as well. It is my opinion that if you are a healthy, attractive male with a strong presence in the bedroom and can stimulate and satisfy a provider that they will give you a better rate than they would give an overweight, unattractive client.[/quote]I laughed out loud.
Met with AndreaVirgo this afternoon for another fantastic time. She is not PSE but one of the really true GFE's in the business. She is a real sweety with absolutely incredible skills if you treat her the way she likes it. Seniors can PM for details.
No doubt a scam. Thanks for the info. Been trying to get home from work all day to see the responses.
[QUOTE=JohnBuddy;1173338]Anyone seen her yet? She also has an add on Nuvo Kimmy sweet blonde vixon![/QUOTE]Surely someone here has seen or attempted?
Any current info on either of these agencies?
[QUOTE=B Beall; 1172826]And, look, this points out that we aren't even talking about the same thing. If all someone wants is an anonymous blowjob, or twenty minutes of sexual release, then $$ is no doubt an extravagance. Similarly, if someone thinks talking a hungry woman into a sub-$ half-hour proves something about pricing he is at the very least assuming that he gets the same experience with a quickie that someone else gets over 2-3 hours or more. I think there are any number of experienced hobbyists here who'll say that extra time, extra consideration, the trip to Sybaris, the nice tip, or a good dinner, pays off a lot more than saving fifty bucks does.
Hey, to each his own. All I can say from my own experience, and that of like-minded hobbyists, anyone who thinks he's nickel and diming his way to the best service available is fooling himself. [/QUOTE]FYI I've paid half hour prices and stayed for four hours having a very very enjoyable time. Paying more is no guarantee for better service. Yes as an axiom it can work out that way, but not necessarily. But again as I mentioned if you simply ask for a deal and are pleasant to be around you'd be surprised and what you can work out. However most often getting a good deal requires developing a rapport. It doesn't happen right out the gate. That is why I usually pay full price upfront. Then as the relationship develops ask for a return client discount that my budget can handle. When I do opt of the half hour for the first time it is because in part it hedges my bets against a bad experience. But also half an hour is usually all I need. The difference between a half and a hour I really don't notice. But if you bump it up to 90 minutes to 2 hours then yes one can often see a qualitative difference.
In short it's all relative.