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[QUOTE=ValenciaGuy;1563274]What made you get into the game? On average how many dates do you see a day? A couple of my co workers who introduced me to backpage said the same thing if we were females we would be on BP and living the good life with all that cash flow. Also I would be packing a gun or knife or both and only show the dates that try something stupid or try to rape, etc.[/QUOTE]Please don't ask questions like these on the board, it is incredibly rude and invasive. You are projecting your fantasies on what you are calling the "Good Life" and no provider want's to be asked these questions and will not give you the answer because frankly it's none of your business-VS
OK Sorry. I will edit my post for there privacy.
Can you edit yours so the question will not be there. Thanks
Looks like she's advertising on a dating site.
[url]http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=40851819[/url]
That would be funny if one of our mongers responds to her add for a real date
Thank you very much! Ad has been deleted!
[QUOTE=PharmaGuy;1563455]That would be funny if one of our mongers responds to her add for a real date[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mojoworks; 1563434]Looks like she's advertising on a dating site.
[url]http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=40851819[/url][/QUOTE]And to actually think that some people would like to meet othets outside of the hobby. Geeze (slapping my forehead) what was she thinking! This should have been posted in the news and media section, because it sounds media worthy to me. But seriously we are all entitled to have a symbolism of normality in our lives if we choose aren't we? You go Savannah find yourself a personal lifestyle outside of the biz.
Hugs,
XoAshley
[QUOTE=ValenciaGuy; 1563293]OK Sorry. I will edit my post for there privacy.
Can you edit yours so the question will not be there. Thanks[/QUOTE]Unfortunately too much time has passed for me to edit the post but I commend you for quickly learning that you were asking questions that are very sensitive to most providers, you and others will have a much better experience with most providers if you keep it upbeat and fun and away from their personal side and in some cases the dark side.
Again I commend you, a good man learns quickly and some never learn, but you have, BRAVO-VS
[QUOTE=JerseyGirl; 1563009]Hello everyone,
I'm in a bit of a bind here, I just got a new phone and for some crazy reason my SIM card didn't carry over to my new phone. So it would be a great big help to me if all of my friends from here can PM me their Numbers so I can add you to my contacts.
Thank you,
Jersey
XoXo[/QUOTE]Thank you for all the PM's today from all my special friends. BTW, I took my phone over to TMobile after a couple of hours and they were able to retrieve all of my numbers back, but really thank you for all of your responses. Muah! Love ya all.
Jersey.
XoXo
Guys, LEO is station in the in the Travelodge of McCoy Road. Be safe. Jrbigfish
[QUOTE=Mystical0945; 1563529]And to actually think that some people would like to meet othets outside of the hobby. Geeze (slapping my forehead) what was she thinking! This should have been posted in the news and media section, because it sounds media worthy to me. But seriously we are all entitled to have a symbolism of normality in our lives if we choose aren't we? You go Savannah find yourself a personal lifestyle outside of the biz.
Hugs,
XoAshley[/QUOTE]I agree we all are entitled to have some semblance of normality in our lives!
I will admit this was very low to post her dating profile from another website.
[QUOTE=Mojoworks; 1563434]Looks like she's advertising on a dating site.
[url]http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=40851819[/url][/QUOTE]
I want to say you go girl and live your life by your rules! Carry on girlfriend! You sexy *
[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;1563738]I agree we all are entitled to have some semblance of normality in our lives![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mojoworks; 1563434]Looks like she's advertising on a dating site.
[url]http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=40851819[/url][/QUOTE]
She has a great personality and attitude unlike some on this site.
I hope you find someone out there. I would guess most of us guys have someone at home why shouldn't the ladies have someone also. Also you should not have deleted the ad on that site in my opion. Good luck to you.
[QUOTE=Hobby407;1564503]I hope you find someone out there. I would guess most of us guys have someone at home why shouldn't the ladies have someone also. Also you should not have deleted the ad on that site in my opion. Good luck to you.[/QUOTE]Whilst I completely agree with the principle of anybody in this business having a SO back home, we hobbyists (in general) keep this activity a secret from our partners. Imagine how difficult this would be for a provider should they choose to continue in the hobby. I would suggest nigh on impossible!
Entering a new relationship should ideally be based on trust from both sides. Unless one intends to withdraw from the hobby I believe seeking a new LTR for a provider who intends to stay in the business is destined for failure.
Whatever this or any other lady wants, I wish them every success
Just my. 02.
Beady
I am sure you have been slammed enough, but we all need to be careful to keep personal and business separated.
Unfortunately, many of us on this site may also use POF or other intimate encounter sites which makes it very hard for a provider posting elsewhere to maintain anonymity. I have seen others advertise on various sites and have even contacted one a long while back in the past, but there needs to be some level of sensitivity or tack in this area.
Just my $0. 02.
Take care and stay safe.
MrB.
[QUOTE=Mojoworks; 1563434]Looks like she's advertising on a dating site.
[url]http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=40851819[/url][/QUOTE]
If a provider wants to date, she has to come and think of the idea of kicking the provider habit. We have all seen providers disappear to prevent burnout and then re-surface.
I just wonder if they really do stay out, entertain a few of fav's they like, or resurface after the relationship ends with their SO.
I've seen other providers post on POF before, and they weren't looking for a boy friend. Was just another avenue to advertise. Same as some that post on whatsyourprice.
I agree with Mr Bob. Providers are real people too. They have every right to seek a relationship in real life separate from their business. There is no need for her to give up her source of income in order to have a steady man in her life. Plenty of hobbyists have a SO and / or spouse. Why can't a provider have one too?
I think the burden is on us hobbyists to respect the ladies' privacy. If a page on a dating site looks like an ad for services, answer it if you want. If a page on a dating site looks like she is seeking a LTR, then reach out to her if you are OK knowing what she does for a living. Otherwise, forget you saw the page and move on. No need to "out" her attempt to find a guy and potentially embarrass her or at least inconvenience her search.
My $0. 02 as well.
D
I assume we all expect providers to be discreet. So the fact that a provider is doing anything when you are not seeing her should not be a topic of discussion here. Mind your own business unless it affects us negatively in the hobby. This is just gossip.
[QUOTE=Ftguy68;1565314]I've seen other providers post on POF before, and they weren't looking for a boy friend. Was just another avenue to advertise. Same as some that post on whatsyourprice.[/QUOTE]I saw a few on AFF. Gwen was on it.
Saw a provider that I have seen several times last weekend at a local music festival, we saw each other at the same time and instantly looked away. Both of us were with SO's and I was actually a little worried at first. Thank god that we both showed respect and all stayed cool. That's her work life and I respect that. I've dated hot strippers where when we are out a guy would approach her and say "Hi" or "Remember me", and I would let her shoot them down. It's amazing that some fucking retards think it's OK to not separate business with pleasure. I understand the line gets crossed in this hobby but for them it's business, for us pleasure.
RESPECT, use it. Fucking DUH
[QUOTE=CptMorgan; 1566101]Saw a provider that I have seen several times last weekend at a local music festival, we saw each other at the same time and instantly looked away. Both of us were with SO's and I was actually a little worried at first. Thank god that we both showed respect and all stayed cool. That's her work life and I respect that. I've dated hot strippers where when we are out a guy would approach her and say "Hi" or "Remember me", and I would let her shoot them down. It's amazing that some fucking retards think it's OK to not separate business with pleasure. I understand the line gets crossed in this hobby but for them it's business, for us pleasure.
RESPECT, use it. Fucking DUH[/QUOTE]One of the "Primary Rules" in the sex industry is to never "acknowledge or recognize" anyone who is in any way involved in the sex industry in a public environment. It can be momentarily uncomfortable to do so but it just "has to be" for the protection for all concerned.
I think we have on here some younger members who by virtue of a more open upbringing and societal conditioning (Face book type of openness) don't quite understand that discussing providers private life's can have life changing ramifications for all concerned.
Perhaps when some of the older participants recognize this we should discuss it, as I'm doing now.
What used to be called "Common sense" is not so common anymore.
I once got a haircut in a salon in a distant city (about a fifth the size of Orlando) and when I sat down in the chair the girl seemed somehow familiar and about 2 minutes later I felt like I had been struck with a bolt of lightening, she was the girl I had met in a night club a few nights before, we talked, had a few drinks, she told me she was "working" and we made an agreement and proceed to my hotel room upstairs. She looked quite different without the clothes and makeup of our previous meeting. I know she recognized me and she seemed to be petrified, and I continued with typical small talk you have with a haircutter, because I know "The Rules". She finished, I thanked her for the excellent haircut and tipped her and left and never saw her again.
The chance of our ever meeting again were a Bazillion to one. I rarely got my haircut on the road and was in a suburb of the city when I got the haircut. I had nothing to lose by mentioning the encounter but I would speculate that she did, based on the rings on her finger that were not there in the previous encounter. It's not what happens it's how you handle it-VS
I have had this situation twice once in Jacksonville with a regular girl I would see. She was with her BF at the movies I showed up with my buddies in line right behind her and we happened to go to the same movie. I just smiled at her as she turned around looked at me and turned a shade of white like I was a ghost. The way I view it is when I am with a girl it is a fantasy or dream as it should be don; t react to it. The second was not as well it was a very youn girl in Orlando seen me with my parents she came up to me and gave me a hug saying hello. Other than explaining why a girl almost 10 years younger than me did that to me to my parents I was single so didn't matter as much. Still both sides need to be careful when you are out sometimes the S. O. Has no clue what these ladies do believe it or not. I never did see this young provider again because that in my opinion was very unprofessional!
[QUOTE=CptMorgan; 1566101]Saw a provider that I have seen several times last weekend at a local music festival, we saw each other at the same time and instantly looked away. Both of us were with SO's and I was actually a little worried at first. Thank god that we both showed respect and all stayed cool. That's her work life and I respect that. I've dated hot strippers where when we are out a guy would approach her and say "Hi" or "Remember me", and I would let her shoot them down. It's amazing that some fucking retards think it's OK to not separate business with pleasure. I understand the line gets crossed in this hobby but for them it's business, for us pleasure.
RESPECT, use it. Fucking DUH[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mikaeles;1566375]I have had this situation twice once in Jacksonville with a regular girl I would see. She was with her BF at the movies I showed up with my buddies in line right behind her and we happened to go to the same movie. I just smiled at her as she turned around looked at me and turned a shade of white like I was a ghost. The way I view it is when I am with a girl it is a fantasy or dream as it should be don; t react to it. The second was not as well it was a very youn girl in Orlando seen me with my parents she came up to me and gave me a hug saying hello. Other than explaining why a girl almost 10 years younger than me did that to me to my parents I was single so didn't matter as much. Still both sides need to be careful when you are out sometimes the S. O. Has no clue what these ladies do believe it or not. I never did see this young provider again because that in my opinion was very unprofessional![/QUOTE]I've had this happen to me, oddly enough, twice in the last month. Both times were with girls I know from the the Inner Room. Both times were during lunch at restaurants in the area. Both times went very cool, as we both noticed each other and then went about our day as if we were strangers. One girl was with her SO and young child, and the other was with what I assume was her boyfriend.
On a slightly different but related note, I had a stripper tell me that her and her friends frequented a particular club (not strip club) after work, for dancing and drinks. I knew a few of her friends, as they were also strippers. She told me to come by and party with them. Well, this was a club where I have frequently gone with friends, and even parents / relatives. I decided I didn't want a pack of strippers coming up to me if I was out with a date, or friends, or relatives from out of town. So I basically stopped going to that club.
Some time back one of you guys offered me a place to entertain a young lady and some of my male friends.
No definitive schedule yet but making plans in case.
You may have had cross and pool table to use as well.
Thanks
Does anybody know any female midgets?
I always wanted to try.
[QUOTE=Markstar; 1566887]Does anybody know any female midgets?
I always wanted to try.[/QUOTE]Should I continue to laugh at this post, or proudly announce I am now intrigued at the thought of a "little person" provider chic too? Hmmm
[QUOTE=HomerSimp;1566967]Should I continue to laugh at this post, or proudly announce I am now intrigued at the thought of a "little person" provider chic too? Hmmm[/QUOTE]The thought pollutes the mind every time. Seriously, if anybody knows one please post.
[QUOTE=Mr Bob 111; 1564766]I am sure you have been slammed enough, but we all need to be careful to keep personal and business separated.
Unfortunately, many of us on this site may also use POF or other intimate encounter sites which makes it very hard for a provider posting elsewhere to maintain anonymity. I have seen others advertise on various sites and have even contacted one a long while back in the past, but there needs to be some level of sensitivity or tack in this area.
Just my $0. 02.
Take care and stay safe.
MrB.[/QUOTE]I guess I started a brouhaha by posting Savannah's personal ad. It was not my intention. It seemed to me I wasn't outing anybody. My impression was that she was using the dating site to get more clients not to improve her personal life. She used provocative pictures as well as her working name. If I am wrong about that I apologize.
[url]http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/10/10/alleged_brothel_owne.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Markstar; 1566887]Does anybody know any female midgets?
I always wanted to try.[/QUOTE]There was one walking Colfax in Denver back in the 90s she ended up in a dumpster thanks to her pimp.
Then there was one on the trail about three years ago have no clue where she is
[QUOTE=Plzd269; 1567631]There was one walking Colfax in Denver back in the 90s she ended up in a dumpster thanks to her pimp.
Then there was one on the trail about three years ago have no clue where she is[/QUOTE]I remember her.
She used to work near the mall.
[QUOTE=VerySlowly;1567492][url]http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/10/10/alleged_brothel_owne.html[/url][/QUOTE]It is very ironic that all the record keeping / video taping is going to be the thing that get him thrown in Jail for a very long time on this one. Should have learned a lesson from history. Al capone was convicted and jailed over failure to pay the IRS. He had records of all his transactions too.
Hey Fellas. I'm a provider who is currently visiting the Orlando area for the month of October. I use to be a regular in the area. I cannot believe how much things have changed in a couple of years since I have been here last. Is it just me or is LE out in full force now? I guess it's because so many of the providers are addicted to drugs. In the sunshine state.
I'm a DRUG FREE provider and this business has drastically changed for the worse here in Florida. I feel so bad for all of you decent guys who just want to meet a decent provider.
Because of safety issues. I now use oovoo to arrange visits. More providers should use this service as an alternative to book appointments. There is a free app for phone or you can use it online.
If you need discretion. This is an excellent resource for your safety. Safer than a phone call and FREE!
So how do we spread the word to providers? Feel free to PM Me or contact me on oovoo. Valerievisitsfl.
Yes I'm VERY REAL! Totally independent and a website for those interested in meeting a mature, experienced, trustworthy and drug free provider in the orlando area.
Good luck and stay safe!
Does anybody know why LE targeted this particular situation?
More importantly, does anybody have any thoughts on current "situations" to avoid?
Welcome any informed posts or PMs.
Montana.
[QUOTE=VerySlowly;1567492][url]http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/10/10/alleged_brothel_owne.html[/url][/QUOTE]
That's a good question. That place was in operation for years. It's inconceivable to me that neighbors and LEO didn't know about it 5 years ago so why raid now? My assumption is they had some type of connection / protection that the lost somehow.
It has always been assumption that LEO knows about all operations using a fixed location. I also think its correct that LEO monitors this and other boards so I wouldn't count on anything that's discussed online or posted on BP cv etc truly being under the radar.
[QUOTE=Montana77; 1568274]Does anybody know why LE targeted this particular situation?
More importantly, does anybody have any thoughts on current "situations" to avoid?
Welcome any informed posts or PMs.
Montana.[/QUOTE]
My thought is the reason they hit this place was one of the girls gave the "anonymous" tip to the cops maybe even by way of a CI. She then made up some false accusations (a girl making 500K a year do the math this is impossible, video recordings and archives of recordings if they had this we would have seen more charges including on the defendant of recording without a persons permission) mixed in with reality to make the situation appear a lot worse than it was. Plus I am sure all the girls were aware they had a congressman and / or a senator visiting passed this info onto the MBI or a CI. Once MBI hears they have a potential public official on the line they will wait for the best chance to arrive I. E. An election year. This would allow an organization like MBI to get the most media coverage as possible and will mess with the elections or re-elections of an incumbent.
Everything that is done has a secret underlying hidden agenda. The MBI wanted to screw over some public officials as close to election as possible. Most of this story about a neighbor telling police she new a senator was visiting the location is probably true however the MBI new this info long before and just waited for the best time to pounce as possible. Even the R. I. C. O. Charges are a little outlandish in this case but makes a better headline in the news paper that says "SENATOR INVOLVED IN A R. I. C. O. INVESTIGATION" it's all about how it appears never about the actual facts.
One news outlet even made the mistake as saying Florida Senator arrested on R. I. C. O. Charges on there website and quickly removed it because that would have been an even better accusation and proves the media doesn't check it's own facts anymore simply publishes what they believe to be the truth and reality even if it is far from it.
[QUOTE=Montana77; 1568274]Does anybody know why LE targeted this particular situation?
More importantly, does anybody have any thoughts on current "situations" to avoid?
Welcome any informed posts or PMs.
Montana.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Montana77; 1568274]Does anybody know why LE targeted this particular situation?
More importantly, does anybody have any thoughts on current "situations" to avoid?
Welcome any informed posts or PMs.
Montana.[/QUOTE]A couple of things happened.
1) This guy made the fatal mistake of operating out of the same location for too long, apparently living there as well, which gives him no plausible deniability, and He fell into the trap many fall into (including ladies+ some mongers) that after a while of participating in an Illegal activity they start to think it's OK and drop their guard. It's hard to hit a moving target and a sitting duck is much, much easier to shoot.
2) There was apparent drug activity on the part of at least one of the girls and rumor is that she caved in to pressure, time will tell.
3) We live in an era of high definition miniaturized video surveillance, so creating probable cause for a search warrant is much easier than having to have LE personnel actually having to do a "stakeout".
4) His stupidity in keeping intense records on the premises was what led to the frosting on the cake for the opposition.
In conclusion: So the fact that these men instead of banging their next door neighbor, or someone from work, and maybe falling in love and ruining their family. Sought some female comfort and companionship for an hour from clean and safe ladies in a safe neighborhood. Have had their lives turned upside down by our phony hypocritical society driven by religious mythology and a corrupt system. If their was a "God" in our 14 billion year old cosmos, I would think by now he might be a bit tired of worrying where humans were spreading their seed and swinging down to his mythical hell to watch these men and women burn for eternity.
It amazing to me what human's can be convinced to believe, I'm surprised we didn't elect Bernie Madoff president, after all he paid 12% interest, so he could easily pay off the national debt-VS