The Massholes

[QUOTE=HowardSprague;2943674]You're proving my point about your posts by once again adding facts to justify your claims. What you've posted is perfectly in line with what I said. The trafficking case involved the knowing request that a minor be transported across a state line. That is far and away outside the normal monger / provider scenario in which the members here are likely to find themselves.

I have never advised silence. Silence would be useless.

I'm not an estate attorney you dog-fucking mongoloid. And I have practiced Criminal Defense as well as in other areas. Can you not read? Sounds like your legal expertise is derived from misunderstanding newspaper articles. I have never said nothing can go wrong. I've purposely stated in the past one can get arrested for lots of reasons. It's all in what you say and do. Just take a look at the liberal use by police of the Disorderly Conduct charge. If you understood criminal law and what police look for in a bust, you'd understand my points. But you don't and you can't. You're just propagating misinformation. Do you get off on this? Again, what is your agenda here? Better yet, why don't you just go away? No one has any respect for you or your opinions at this point.

I'm not going to waste any more time on you. Howard Sprague out! Whump! Hummmmmmmmmmmmm.[/QUOTE]I believe you have taken criminal cases. But we both know you are unqualified to try a Superior Court case. Most likely the product of a Tier 3 law school practicing in a small town. It is obvious from your inability to comprehend what you are reading and your unstable temperament that you could never take a serious criminal case the distance. I'm not sure what you're advising when you say it's okay to walk into a police sting and depending on what you say they may not arrest you. You obviously haven't been exposed to contemporary police work.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2943748]Jeishein14's agenda here is very obvious that's why he bypassed addressing the issue as well as called HowardSprague an estate attorney without any evidence of such. I'm not a lawyer myself but as someone who spent decades in courtrooms throughout Massachusetts and other New England states and seen many soliciting cases go by him (once even run into an escort in Wrentham Courthouse that I visited only two weeks prior. That was funny.) I can assure you that everything Jeishein14 says is an exaggerated nonsense meant to scare us off. He (or maybe it's even a "she") is either a religious person who found his calling or just a layman who is trying to stop prostitution by any means possible or maybe even someone whose daughter strayed off the "honest path" herself.

I disagree with HowardSprague in one thing. I believe that it's highly unlikely that this person has anything to do with legal profession. Anything he says and the way he puts it can be easily acquired by surfing the internet and participating in forums of the likeminded.

You know that Mormons and many other religions get assigned by their congregations to walk around and knock on your door to bother you with you with their religion. Many even go to far away lands for missionary work and the like. Well, Jeishein14 might've even been assigned by his church to us. To discourage us, to scare us as much as he can by any means possible. If I had to guess he probably also demonstrates against abortions in front of Planned Parenthood and if he had a chance he'd even tell you what you can and can't do with your SO in the privacy of your own bedroom.

Religious fanaticism whether Christian, Muslim or any other knows no bounds and has no moral restraints when propagating their dogmas. They can lie, mislead, even go completely against any of the 10 commandments because higher purpose they serve (in Jeishein14's case it would be "saving us") excuses any behavior as long as done for that higher purpose.

I have a suggestion for forum Admins. Currently Jeishein14 is marked as Douchbag. That still basically underscores that he is a hobbyist, albeit maybe not that nice of a hobbyist. But he is not a hobbyist. He doesn't contribute anything to mongering cause. He never shares providers that he visits, he doesn't comment on providers that others visit, he doesn't even ask if anyone has any info on this or that escort. He just advertises his intolerance of hobbying believes and tries to impose it on us. Then why don't you change his status on the board to Forum Advertiser / Douchbag or Douchbag Advertiser or something like that? First of all it would equate him with those that s / he probably doesn't want to be equated with and second it would be more appropriate to what s / he does. He is here to advertise his intolerance for hobbying so s / he's more of an advertiser then a hobbyist.

Anyone who agrees say "yey".[/QUOTE]Not sure which of my points you're refuting.

[QUOTE=Skatar018;2943710]While I am not a proponent of the douchebag Jeishein14, & I waited to comment until the posts were moved to the Massholes forum as I knew they would be.

I do have to say he is correct in stating that if you, me, or anyone shows up to the room/site (not the just motel) where a sting is taking place you will be arrested period.

No question about it you will be arrested, processed, finger printed, photo taken & charged, unless you are the chief of police, Mayor of Boston, the governor, or another prominent figure with enough clout to be released.

Sorry to inform you but it is you that's flat out wrong here, & if you doubt this fact I sugguest you test your theory by going to a sting operation & let us know how it goes.

I can attest to this fact from my post here:& this wasn't even a sting operation, I was just collateral damage & they were pissed as I would not incriminate myself or roll over on her.

The lawyer I hired was a former ten year prosecutor for the commenwealth of Mass & to make a long story short he could no longer in good conscious abide how LEO & prosecutors applies the law to it's citizens regardless of guilt or innocence.[/QUOTE]I'm inclined to agree, Uncle LEO has been known to make arrests whether the elements of the crime have been met or not, and just let the court deal with it. Other times they'll get your information, swear out a criminal complaint, and you'll have a hearing with the criminal clerk magistrate to determine if there's sufficient evidence to proceed with a charge. A lot of these cases end up being dismissed upon payment of court fees, but often the damage is already done by then.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Skatar018;2943710]While I am not a proponent of the douchebag Jeishein14, & I waited to comment until the posts were moved to the Massholes forum as I knew they would be.

I do have to say he is correct in stating that if you, me, or anyone shows up to the room/site (not the just motel) where a sting is taking place you will be arrested period.

No question about it you will be arrested, processed, finger printed, photo taken & charged, unless you are the chief of police, Mayor of Boston, the governor, or another prominent figure with enough clout to be released.

Sorry to inform you but it is you that's flat out wrong here, & if you doubt this fact I sugguest you test your theory by going to a sting operation & let us know how it goes.

I can attest to this fact from my post here:& this wasn't even a sting operation, I was just collateral damage & they were pissed as I would not incriminate myself or roll over on her.

The lawyer I hired was a former ten year prosecutor for the commenwealth of Mass & to make a long story short he could no longer in good conscious abide how LEO & prosecutors applies the law to it's citizens regardless of guilt or innocence.[/QUOTE]"Not a proponent" yet acknowledges that I am "correct". What we have here is a case of blaming the messenger. In 2012 the laws and sentencing guidelines for both the procurement and paying a fee for sexual acts changed drastically. Philosophically, the criminal responsibility has been transferred from the prostitute, who is now considered to be a victim, to the pimps and johns. Both federal and state prosecutors are going after pimps and johns with increasing ferocity. Police will do anything to bring a case, including lying. To view the current climate any other way is courting disaster. But please, don't take my word for it. Simply spend an hour or two looking these news items up on the internet. And remember, should you get arrested, Howard Sprague isn't going to help you.

[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2943801]"Not a proponent" yet acknowledges that I am "correct". What we have here is a case of blaming the messenger. In 2012 the laws and sentencing guidelines for both the procurement and paying a fee for sexual acts changed drastically. Philosophically, the criminal responsibility has been transferred from the prostitute, who is now considered to be a victim, to the pimps and johns. Both federal and state prosecutors are going after pimps and johns with increasing ferocity. Police will do anything to bring a case, including lying. To view the current climate any other way is courting disaster. But please, don't take my word for it. Simply spend an hour or two looking these news items up on the internet. And remember, should you get arrested, Howard Sprague isn't going to help you.[/QUOTE]No one is shooting the messenger, it's just that you're not telling us anything that we do not already know & have already discussed on the forums, seems you're about 4 years late.

But what is it you expect? To close up shop? That's not going to happen, that chit is primal instinct, it's encoded in our DNA which trumps any written law, regardless what the punishment or ramifications are.

So precisely what is the point you of being here?

[QUOTE=Admin2;2943534][BLUE]Are you aware that in the title you said "don't feed the troll" yet your post was all about feeding the troll?

Are you schizophrenic? Was your right hand literally not aware of what your left hand was typing?

Just wondering,

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]All true, A2, all true. As my participation in this hobby makes clear, I succumb easily to temptation. Taking your advice and steering clear!

[QUOTE=Skatar018;2944269]No one is shooting the messenger, it's just that you're not telling us anything that we do not already know & have already discussed on the forums, seems you're about 4 years late.

But what is it you expect? To close up shop? That's not going to happen, that chit is primal instinct, it's encoded in our DNA which trumps any written law, regardless what the punishment or ramifications are.

So precisely what is the point you of being here?[/QUOTE]The cases I have cited are contemporary, thus making previous discussion of them impossible. The initial post that drew the ire of the barracks attorney Howard Sprague simply stated that a hotel escort visit is rife with legal pitfalls, should law enforcement seek to hang a case on an individual. From there, Howard Sprague sought to both insult me and guarantee everyone of their teflon status at a sting provided they follow his guidelines, which he never really spelled out. It appears that his guidelines consist of saying certain things and not saying others, thus causing the police open your car door for you while you drive away free as a bird. When I presented active cases law from the news and the Massachusetts Courts, two or three melted down and resorted to name calling. Now, I'm not a scientist so I don't know about the need to hire prostitutes being imprinted in one's DNA, but the relative low percentage of men who engage in such activities on a chronic basis suggests otherwise.

[QUOTE=Skatar018;2944269]No one is shooting the messenger, it's just that you're not telling us anything that we do not already know & have already discussed on the forums, seems you're about 4 years late.

But what is it you expect? To close up shop? That's not going to happen, that chit is primal instinct, it's encoded in our DNA which trumps any written law, regardless what the punishment or ramifications are.

So precisely what is the point you of being here?[/QUOTE]His point is to engage us in discussion so he hopes he can scare two or three sinners away from hobbying. He uses general notions that we all well familiar with and reinforces them with each of his post. He hopes that there'd be a newbie or two that he'd be able to save at the onset of their hobbying.

Notice that the only person he actually went after was the only bonafide lawyer on this board that we pretty much know indeed is a lawyer who was basically calling Jeishein14 out on his bullshit. The way to go after a lawyer is to call him incompetent in a law which that lawyer considers himself competent in. Jeishein14 knows that in most likelihood he won't be able to win legal argument with a lawyer so he had to piss him off enough to get him out of the conversation. The rest of us he considers to have as much expertise in legal matters as he does and as such no threat to him.

Don't get involved in the pros and cons of his arguments, that's exactly what he is looking for. Either ignore him or go after him personally.

For example, I believe that Jeishein14's granny in all likelihood was an escort and succeeded in encouraging her daughter to do the same and if Admin erases what I just said that's fine. I think that this caused Jeishein14 to hold a significant grudge against providers in general and men who use them, I. E. Ourselves and he is doing everything in his power to discourage us from hobbying. I'm just expressing my personal believe in regards to Jeishein14's granny, etc. I think we live in a free country where everybody are entitled to their believes.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2944910]His point is to engage us in discussion so he hopes he can scare two or three sinners away from hobbying. He uses general notions that we all well familiar with and reinforces them with each of his post. He hopes that there'd be a newbie or two that he'd be able to save at the onset of their hobbying.

Notice that the only person he actually went after was the only bonafide lawyer on this board that we pretty much know indeed is a lawyer who was basically calling Jeishein14 out on his bullshit. The way to go after a lawyer is to call him incompetent in a law which that lawyer considers himself competent in. Jeishein14 knows that in most likelihood he won't be able to win legal argument with a lawyer so he had to piss him off enough to get him out of the conversation. The rest of us he considers to have as much expertise in legal matters as he does and as such no threat to him.

Don't get involved in the pros and cons of his arguments, that's exactly what he is looking for. Either ignore him or go after him personally.

For example, I believe that Jeishein14's granny in all likelihood was an escort and succeeded in encouraging her daughter to do the same and if Admin erases what I just said that's fine. I think that this caused Jeishein14 to hold a significant grudge against providers in general and men who use them, I. E. Ourselves and he is doing everything in his power to discourage us from hobbying. I'm just expressing my personal believe in regards to Jeishein14's granny, etc. I think we live in a free country where everybody are entitled to their believes.[/QUOTE]Actually, Howard Sprague attacked me out of the blue when I related a case that was currently unfolding in the Massachusetts Court System. Sprague went on to rely on insults and bombast and "I'm out of here!" statements to counter the actual case histories that I presented. Given my level of expertise in criminal law, I quickly realized that Sprague does not specialize in Criminal Defense Law, to which he vaguely responded that he had at some point had some exposure criminal cases.

In terms of the hypothesis that my goal is some moral or religous zealotry, I disagree. I have no investment in the actions of strangers. What started as a suggestion that hotel escort visits are not as secure as some may think has blown up into Sprague and a couple of others of his ilk launchiny impassioned exhortations defending the solicitation of prostitution, not unlike an alocholic defending his right to drink. In the end, most here will never be arrested, and a small percentage reading this post will be arrested and publicly besmirched. The question: which of you shall it be?

[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2944582]The cases I have cited are contemporary, thus making previous discussion of them impossible. The initial post that drew the ire of the barracks attorney Howard Sprague simply stated that a hotel escort visit is rife with legal pitfalls, should law enforcement seek to hang a case on an individual. From there, Howard Sprague sought to both insult me and guarantee everyone of their teflon status at a sting provided they follow his guidelines, which he never really spelled out. It appears that his guidelines consist of saying certain things and not saying others, thus causing the police open your car door for you while you drive away free as a bird. When I presented active cases law from the news and the Massachusetts Courts, two or three melted down and resorted to name calling. Now, I'm not a scientist so I don't know about the need to hire prostitutes being imprinted in one's DNA, but the relative low percentage of men who engage in such activities on a chronic basis suggests otherwise.[/QUOTE]Don't bother replying I will not see it.

I should've known better, you have no logical comprehension to even understand that the law you speak of was put info effect over 4 years ago, so yes numbnuts cases have come up in the past, now & will so in the future, so what, big whoop.

Add on to the fact that you can not comprehend that regardless of who it's with it's in our DNA to fuck, it's in our nature to do the act even if it does not result in pro-creation, it's also one of those simple things that can bring a lot of pleasure.

Which by the way if you're done fucking & procreating (I hope you didn't make any mini-yous) it's time for you to be dead & buried as you no longer have a useful purpose, least not here.

[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2944989]The question: which of you shall it be?[/QUOTE]Talking about "intent to harass". It can't get anymore "intent to harass" then this, eh? LOL.

Agree or not disagree. We know you have an agenda. That agenda comes from some sort of personal state of affairs. I have no doubt that you have no experience in criminal matters because everything you say is everybody's knowledge and mistakes you make in your examples and arguments are juvenile from legal perspective and would've never been made by a court officer, let alone VWA or a probation one. We're not talking here about you being a lawyer or a magistrate, let alone judge. You have something personal going. It's either religion or something in your family. Maybe your wife was supplementing your income by waving in passing cars from your porch, maybe your mother had some experience in escorting, maybe it's even worse and your daughter got hooked up with some drug addict and that put her out on the street corner. What you are doing here is either religion-based or something really sad that deserves sincere sympathy and you sure get mine.

Whatever it is I really think that you need to enlist the help of a specialist. When person's missions in life become so insignificant and so unnatural in nature there is a void which is just calling out to be filled! If you're disagree that this is a religious assignment then it must be something personal. Various scenarios of which I described in previous paragraph. Or maybe it's the exact opposite, maybe you're lonely, and need to join a group. Or actually I'm encouraging you to use some of the resources that we have here, on our forum. Deb, for example, is a specialist in working with a disabled hobbyists, right Deb? I suspect disabled includes not only physically disabled but disabled in a more subtle ways. Why don't you try to employ her help to help you with your issues? I'm sure she'll make you feel like $10,000 Romney bet! It would be the best investment of your life I guarantee it!

And I know I said that before in relation to some other character on this board but McLean Hospital does also come to mind. They have great staff, their specialists are second to none, one month of inpatient therapy, and you'd have so many worthier goals to fulfill then fighting the world's oldest profession, the world's most natural profession, you know that? It's by definition a losing battle that you can never win. Can't beat them. Join them! Everybody in this board would try to pitch in with helping you out Jeishein14! You will discover so many incredibly sensations that you had never imagined existed! Give up your preconceived notions Jeishein14! Get closer to real divine! Come on Jeishein14 - let loose and feel as though you're walking on air!

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2945369]Talking about "intent to harass". It can't get anymore "intent to harass" then this, eh? LOL.

Agree or not disagree. We know you have an agenda. That agenda comes from some sort of personal state of affairs. I have no doubt that you have no experience in criminal matters because everything you say is everybody's knowledge and mistakes you make in your examples and arguments are juvenile from legal perspective and would've never been made by a court officer, let alone VWA or a probation one. We're not talking here about you being a lawyer or a magistrate, let alone judge. You have something personal going. It's either religion or something in your family. Maybe your wife was supplementing your income by waving in passing cars from your porch, maybe your mother had some experience in escorting, maybe it's even worse and your daughter got hooked up with some drug addict and that put her out on the street corner. What you are doing here is either religion-based or something really sad that deserves sincere sympathy and you sure get mine.

Whatever it is I really think that you need to enlist the help of a specialist. When person's missions in life become so insignificant and so unnatural in nature there is a void which is just calling out to be filled! If you're disagree that this is a religious assignment then it must be something personal. Various scenarios of which I described in previous paragraph. Or maybe it's the exact opposite, maybe you're lonely, and need to join a group. Or actually I'm encouraging you to use some of the resources that we have here, on our forum. Deb, for example, is a specialist in working with a disabled hobbyists, right Deb? I suspect disabled includes not only physically disabled but disabled in a more subtle ways. Why don't you try to employ her help to help you with your issues? I'm sure she'll make you feel like $10,000 Romney bet! It would be the best investment of your life I guarantee it!

And I know I said that before in relation to some other character on this board but McLean Hospital does also come to mind. They have great staff, their specialists are second to none, one month of inpatient therapy, and you'd have so many worthier goals to fulfill then fighting the world's oldest profession, the world's most natural profession, you know that? It's by definition a losing battle that you can never win. Can't beat them. Join them! Everybody in this board would try to pitch in with helping you out Jeishein14! You will discover so many incredibly sensations that you had never imagined existed! Give up your preconceived notions Jeishein14! Get closer to real divine! Come on Jeishein14 - let loose and feel as though you're walking on air![/QUOTE]Wrong on all counts.

[QUOTE=Skatar018;2945197]Don't bother replying I will not see it.

I should've known better, you have no logical comprehension to even understand that the law you speak of was put info effect over 4 years ago, so yes numbnuts cases have come up in the past, now & will so in the future, so what, big whoop.

Add on to the fact that you can not comprehend that regardless of who it's with it's in our DNA to fuck, it's in our nature to do the act even if it does not result in pro-creation, it's also one of those simple things that can bring a lot of pleasure.

Which by the way if you're done fucking & procreating (I hope you didn't make any mini-yous) it's time for you to be dead & buried as you no longer have a useful purpose, least not here.[/QUOTE]I simply pointed out actual court cases that illustrate the legal pitfalls that I stated that while rare, exist.

Most men don't use prostitutes to ensure survival of the species. The DNA argument is ineffective. The chronic, unrelenting addiction to prostitutes is a psychological issue, unrelated to any evolutionary instinct.

Words like "hobby" are euphemisms intended to lessen the reality of your condition. You are engaged in an illegal, potentially deadly addiction, not stamp collecting.

Your reliance upon name calling and insults betrays your lack of any substantive argument. Not one of the cases I've posted about here can be refuted.

Come on man you and Ayatollah Khomeini have more in common then not. Sure sounds like it from your writings.

[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2945897]Wrong on all counts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2945369]Talking about "intent to harass". It can't get anymore "intent to harass" then this, eh? LOL.

Agree or not disagree. We know you have an agenda. That agenda comes from some sort of personal state of affairs. I have no doubt that you have no experience in criminal matters because everything you say is everybody's knowledge and mistakes you make in your examples and arguments are juvenile from legal perspective and would've never been made by a court officer, let alone VWA or a probation one. We're not talking here about you being a lawyer or a magistrate, let alone judge. You have something personal going. It's either religion or something in your family. Maybe your wife was supplementing your income by waving in passing cars from your porch, maybe your mother had some experience in escorting, maybe it's even worse and your daughter got hooked up with some drug addict and that put her out on the street corner. What you are doing here is either religion-based or something really sad that deserves sincere sympathy and you sure get mine.

Whatever it is I really think that you need to enlist the help of a specialist. When person's missions in life become so insignificant and so unnatural in nature there is a void which is just calling out to be filled! If you're disagree that this is a religious assignment then it must be something personal. Various scenarios of which I described in previous paragraph. Or maybe it's the exact opposite, maybe you're lonely, and need to join a group. Or actually I'm encouraging you to use some of the resources that we have here, on our forum. Deb, for example, is a specialist in working with a disabled hobbyists, right Deb? I suspect disabled includes not only physically disabled but disabled in a more subtle ways. Why don't you try to employ her help to help you with your issues? I'm sure she'll make you feel like $10,000 Romney bet! It would be the best investment of your life I guarantee it!

And I know I said that before in relation to some other character on this board but McLean Hospital does also come to mind. They have great staff, their specialists are second to none, one month of inpatient therapy, and you'd have so many worthier goals to fulfill then fighting the world's oldest profession, the world's most natural profession, you know that? It's by definition a losing battle that you can never win. Can't beat them. Join them! Everybody in this board would try to pitch in with helping you out Jeishein14! You will discover so many incredibly sensations that you had never imagined existed! Give up your preconceived notions Jeishein14! Get closer to real divine! Come on Jeishein14 - let loose and feel as though you're walking on air![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2946219]Come on man you and Ayatollah Khomeini have more in common then not. Sure sounds like it from your writings.[/QUOTE]Not sure I understand. Could you please give some examples?

[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2946026]The chronic, unrelenting addiction to prostitutes is a psychological issue, unrelated to any evolutionary instinct.[/QUOTE]Some would disagree with that statement.

[URL]https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/addicted-brains/201111/is-addiction-the-result-brain-evolution[/URL]

Here's another on the evolutionary origins of drug addiction, but it has many corollaries with sex addiction.

[URL]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1174878/[/URL]

Prostitutes enter the equation when men are unable to obtain willing partners, simply do not have the time to invest in finding them, or can not find them often enough to satisfy their needs. I say men because it's well known that even unattractive women have a much easier time finding partners than men do.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.

Hey guys I just scanned through Jeishein14's posts. It's Negsiro, the perv that raped that Indian chick in the Merrimack valley when he was still Toujula, fucking with us under different handle probably from a different e-mail account. See for yourselves, somewhere on the second page he's calling for cock like Negsiro used to do and then searching for dominatrices! Of course why didn't I think of that?! I scanned his posts wondering if us Bostonians are the only lucky ones to be bestowed with such a treasure. Of course we are! Now it makes sense. LOL.

Man, talking about a crooked mind, eh? How many personalities do you have? I hope Ted Bundy is not one of them, although I'm afraid it probably is. What are you going to reincarnate into next for us, Napoleon? Genghis Khan? I give you a suggestion, come out as some Pakistani general that kicked some Indian ass! That sounds so freaking realistic to me. Do that!

Talking about some research too, eh? All this legal staff referring to all those cases that your twisted mind invented? Man I'm impressed!

Dude, you really should seek help dude. McLean, Arbor, for God's sake every respected medical institution has a psychiatric ward. Go there! You've got issues that certainly includes some some serious identity disorders. Or maybe you had already been there and have been let out! Wouldn't put it pass you.

Or maybe you're out on bail paid by your poor maharaja parents waiting for your trial to start? I bet that's why the legal shit, eh? Yea that's probably it. You talk legal system because you went through it yourself and I suspect more then once. Yep with the way you talk as Negsiro and with the way you handled that Indian girl as still Toujula and with your multiple personalities that makes sense. Boy this is crazier then crazy, huh?

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2946780]Hey guys I just scanned through Jeishein14's posts. It's Negsiro, the perv that raped that Indian chick in the Merrimack valley when he was still Toujula, fucking with us under different handle probably from a different e-mail account. See for yourselves, somewhere on the second page he's calling for cock like Negsiro used to do and then searching for dominatrices! Of course why didn't I think of that?! I scanned his posts wondering if us Bostonians are the only lucky ones to be bestowed with such a treasure. Of course we are! Now it makes sense. LOL.

Man, talking about a crooked mind, eh? How many personalities do you have? I hope Ted Bundy is not one of them, although I'm afraid it probably is. What are you going to reincarnate into next for us, Napoleon? Genghis Khan? I give you a suggestion, come out as some Pakistani general that kicked some Indian ass! That sounds so freaking realistic to me. Do that!

Talking about some research too, eh? All this legal staff referring to all those cases that your twisted mind invented? Man I'm impressed!

Dude, you really should seek help dude. McLean, Arbor, for God's sake every respected medical institution has a psychiatric ward. Go there! You've got issues that certainly includes some some serious identity disorders. Or maybe you had already been there and have been let out! Wouldn't put it pass you.

Or maybe you're out on bail paid by your poor maharaja parents waiting for your trial to start? I bet that's why the legal shit, eh? Yea that's probably it. You talk legal system because you went through it yourself and I suspect more then once. Yep with the way you talk as Negsiro and with the way you handled that Indian girl as still Toujula and with your multiple personalities that makes sense. Boy this is crazier then crazy, huh?[/QUOTE]An incoherent rambling. Perhaps a remedial writing class?

Come on dude, leave your Perry Mason personality - you've been outed. But again Jeishein14-Negsiro-Toujula I'm impressed with the extend of your nuttiness. You're dangerous man both to yourself and to other people. You already proved that once. I'm sure you'll do it again. Get treatment before it gets out of hand.

[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2947055]An incoherent rambling. Perhaps a remedial writing class?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2946780]Hey guys I just scanned through Jeishein14's posts. It's Negsiro, the perv that raped that Indian chick in the Merrimack valley when he was still Toujula, fucking with us under different handle probably from a different e-mail account. See for yourselves, somewhere on the second page he's calling for cock like Negsiro used to do and then searching for dominatrices! Of course why didn't I think of that?! I scanned his posts wondering if us Bostonians are the only lucky ones to be bestowed with such a treasure. Of course we are! Now it makes sense. LOL.

Man, talking about a crooked mind, eh? How many personalities do you have? I hope Ted Bundy is not one of them, although I'm afraid it probably is. What are you going to reincarnate into next for us, Napoleon? Genghis Khan? I give you a suggestion, come out as some Pakistani general that kicked some Indian ass! That sounds so freaking realistic to me. Do that!

Talking about some research too, eh? All this legal staff referring to all those cases that your twisted mind invented? Man I'm impressed!

Dude, you really should seek help dude. McLean, Arbor, for God's sake every respected medical institution has a psychiatric ward. Go there! You've got issues that certainly includes some some serious identity disorders. Or maybe you had already been there and have been let out! Wouldn't put it pass you.

Or maybe you're out on bail paid by your poor maharaja parents waiting for your trial to start? I bet that's why the legal shit, eh? Yea that's probably it. You talk legal system because you went through it yourself and I suspect more then once. Yep with the way you talk as Negsiro and with the way you handled that Indian girl as still Toujula and with your multiple personalities that makes sense. Boy this is crazier then crazy, huh?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2947485]Come on dude, leave your Perry Mason personality - you've been outed. But again Jeishein14-Negsiro-Toujula I'm impressed with the extend of your nuttiness. You're dangerous man both to yourself and to other people. You already proved that once. I'm sure you'll do it again. Get treatment before it gets out of hand.[/QUOTE]You say I'm these other individuals, which clearly I'm not. If you insist on pursuing your insistence that I am, could you offer some proof? IP addresses perhaps?

[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2947611]You say I'm these other individuals, which clearly I'm not. If you insist on pursuing your insistence that I am, could you offer some proof? IP addresses perhaps?[/QUOTE]Scan his posts. It's so clear it's not funny! Btw, the only person who ever threatened other hobbyist with figuring him out via his IP address was Toujula too. Come on punk your game is up and you know it. Take off your pretentious hyper-civilized mask and let the lowlife that hides behind it out.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2948124]Scan his posts. It's so clear it's not funny! Btw, the only person who ever threatened other hobbyist with figuring him out via his IP address was Toujula too. Come on punk your game is up and you know it. Take off your pretentious hyper-civilized mask and let the lowlife that hides behind it out.[/QUOTE]Have you any proof? So far your strategy consists of reckless assertions peppered with commands to "scan" some posts. If you are so confident of your position, have an administrator compare IP addresses.

[blue]I wish you guys would stop with the IP stuff. All you're doing is showing a lack of knowledge. IP info is really 90's stuff.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2948162]Have you any proof? So far your strategy consists of reckless assertions peppered with commands to "scan" some posts. If you are so confident of your position, have an administrator compare IP addresses.

[blue]I wish you guys would stop with the IP stuff. All you're doing is showing a lack of knowledge. IP info is really 90's stuff.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Sorry A2, don't know much about IP staff and not claiming to. The only thing I know is that I can easily block it and change it if I wanted to and indeed do that from time to time. Other then that if you're looking for an expert opinion ask Jeishein14=Negsiro. He'll tell you everything you ever wanted to know about IP addresses but was afraid to ask. .

[QUOTE=KcarrocDoc;2950661]695 number is a gem. Pm of you want details.[/QUOTE]If this is a review this site is doomed, another pussnuts to the ignore pile.

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[QUOTE=Renagade;2843223]Posting Pm's without names takes away from the believability of your post. Your makin shit up. That's all your doing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Renagade;2843853]No one else has yet to come forward and express any ill feelings towards Jack. And no this is not a court of law, but, It seems your the only one who has taken on this crusade. If you "have no reason to make it up", then you appear to be a minority here. You got nothing to back up your accusations.

"Go fuck yourself Asswipe", is that the best you can do?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yardape08;2843695]This isn't a court of law dimwit. Everything I have posted is true and only the most naive members doubt the validity of these posts. I have no reason to make anything up. These latest developments are nothing new but rather cement Jack's already infamous reputation as a slimeball. Go fuck yourself Asswipe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SouthShore00;2844340]First some creepy dude with over 2400 posts on a hooker message board comes out to defend this fat piece of shit and now you. How cute! Oh. And yes he is very fat. Ugly too. Go figure! Told ya I know who he is. .

Eric. Oh, I'm sorry. Jack Is a nasty little dude that lives a nasty little life. Thems be the facts whether ya want to kick and scream and call people names or not. That won't change the fact that every girl on RT was a Brockton junkie does it?

Maybe if you ever had the chance to talk to one of the girls that use to work for fat Jack you may not be so quick to defend him. Drugs, threats and manipulation are all on the menu when dealing with this lonesome loser.

Pardon us for thinking that taking advantage of a girl for your own financial gain is a scummy thing to do.

Peace![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DoneMongering;2844510]I have ill feelings toward Jack / Ho Hunter. I'm not a first time poster or a sock puppet, I have 790 posts here under my original user name that's no longer active because I stopped posting about 8 years ago, when I decided that posting about my "activities" online and arguing with sock puppets (like you?) wasn't the best use of my time. I've been mongering in Brockton since the days when you had to turn right on Spring st because there was a barrier in the road with an arrow on it because Main st was one way between Spring St and Pleasant st / rte 27. Back when there were real hookers at night on Spring st, not these fucked up hags that are out there today.

My problem with Ho Hunter, aside from him bullying women, getting them hooked on drugs and further destroying their lives, is that the asshole takes away the few gems out on the streets and leaves us with nothing but diseased hags to drive by night after night, like his former friend Nikki, shown here in Ho Hunters "first actual report" when he posted this picture of her leaning on his inferno red Grand Cherokee.

So yeah, fuck Ho Hunter and kudos to Yardape and Yellowfever for calling him out and giving him shit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Renagade;2845052]There are no efforts for "damage control". Your assertions are yours alone. It would be like me saying, you like the massage parlors, and you like the lady boys. I don't know that for sure but whatever. But what is the real problem with the way Jack doe's business? Have you an axe to grind? If a girl shows up at your door all strung out, would you proceed with the date? I don't think you would. So if someone is dumb enough to proceed with a strung out user thinking that its only got to get better then they deserve to get the bums rush. I'm sure with all the years you've been doing this that you have been burn'd. How about all the others here that have been burn'd,do you pick up the fight for them and chase after that girls pimp? The only time you pull your head out of your ass is when Jacks name is mentioned. You don't just come off with a Yea that's jacks way of doing business you go in to a long drawn out kick a dead horse spiel.

SouthShore, sorry but you sound like you have some issues? WTF difference doe's it make if he's fat, ugly, tall, short, bald, hairy, laugh's like a hyena, what the fuck buddy. Or a nasty little dude who lives with mom? Big fukin deal. And I have talked to some of the girls he and Kat have approached so what? These's girls choose this lifestyle. They used drugs because they wanted too. They prostitute because they want too. I'm guessing but was it a girlfriend, cousin, someone close to you? What is your axe? Or you just like seeing your name in lights?

Done Mongering. First let me start by saying this is a hobby not a lifestyle. Ok. If Jacks stealing all the pretty ones away from you, boo hoo. Nikki, hmmm. I think from what I've read she chose this life. Do you have first hand knowledge of this bullying? You sure your not confusing him with the Brockton pimp? Because your out of the game you probably haven't noticed that since the internet a lot of the better looking ones have gravitated towards, now defunct Craigslist, to Backpage and now to USASEX guides classified. The way you describe Main and spring your from the 80's. I'll keep it civil.

I just don't get why you use Jack as a scapegoat. Its just "business".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2846159]I thought I was the only one who thought about HoHunter when they found those bodies, apparently I was not alone.[/QUOTE]Not sure where to begin here but have to start somewhere. So this Renagade character emerged with his very first post attacking me over the Ho Hunter saga several months ago. At the time it seemed obvious he was a reincarnated member and I certainly guessed wrong as to who it was a couple of times.

But recently it became apparent that without a doubt he is the former member here who went by SouthsideMike who retired his name. I don't have a problem with anyone slamming me or refuting my posts with a solid argument however when it is done in such a cowardly way under a fake username slamming and prodding me and with rebuttals also strewn with lies I decided to call him out in the Brockton Streetwalker forum.

And now poor old SS Mike has become a bit unhinged with self righteous indignation that I'd do such a thing. And although he and I have quite a long history of sharing here he proceeded to attack and ridicule me through most of his early posts. He doesn't understand my contempt as he stated to me that he knew from my posting history that I was not thin skinned and used that as justification for his attacks. While LMAO to that. The majority of us here are in fact thin skinned as evidenced by all our fighting and I am a stubborn prick so if I'm attacked I feel forced to fight back. So I did just that and outed Renagade as SS Mike. Now he saw fit to out my first name in the Thunderdome forum. Any member here who posts under a false pretense deserves to be outed.

So Dude respond however you like but don't give me the holier than though bullshit that I'm an asshole and you're not. I fully admit I'm a card carrying asshole. You've always been an asshole here and you and everyone else knows it. Nothing wrong with being an asshole unless you deny it. You had your anonymous fun and now the anonymity part is over. Say whatever the fuck you want but at least now everyone will know who is saying it. Both you and Ho Hunter can Go Fuck Yourselves.

So, I have a bone to pick with your town.

Here's the deal. I am the worlds oldest roadie. I tour with a fairly famous band, usually managing the other crew and often man the stage door, which allows me to take advantage of an occasional barely legal goth wannabe, but that is a story for another day.

So, the band was playing a private party at the World Trade Center area. We struck the gear the next day and sent the trucks off about 4 PM. The rest of the crew went drinking but I wanted to go back to the hotel, near the airport. Someone suggested I take the Silver bus to the airport. Sounded reasonable. Am used to taking public transportation. So, I jumped onto a bus, it emerged from the tunnel and it then took 30 minutes to get on the Interstate. Basically, a five minute walk away.

Holy shit! Who designed your public transportation system? A five year old kid with crayons? And why the fuck do you people put up with it? Obviously, there is something wrong with the politicians and beaurocrats making decisions and they are fucking all of you in the ass and you are taking it.

Why?

C3.

All I would say buddy. 'Welcome to Boston!

[QUOTE=Camera3;2974344]So, I have a bone to pick with your town.

Here's the deal. I am the worlds oldest roadie. I tour with a fairly famous band, usually managing the other crew and often man the stage door, which allows me to take advantage of an occasional barely legal goth wannabe, but that is a story for another day.

So, the band was playing a private party at the World Trade Center area. We struck the gear the next day and sent the trucks off about 4 PM. The rest of the crew went drinking but I wanted to go back to the hotel, near the airport. Someone suggested I take the Silver bus to the airport. Sounded reasonable. Am used to taking public transportation. So, I jumped onto a bus, it emerged from the tunnel and it then took 30 minutes to get on the Interstate. Basically, a five minute walk away.

Holy shit! Who designed your public transportation system? A five year old kid with crayons? And why the fuck do you people put up with it? Obviously, there is something wrong with the politicians and beaurocrats making decisions and they are fucking all of you in the ass and you are taking it.

Why?

C3.[/QUOTE]

I know not to feed the troll, but I had actually laughed out loud on this.

Yes, Welcome to Boston! We enjoy getting shafted on how our tax payer money gets spent.

Oh yeah, our MBTA head got a promotion, apparently for fucking us so good;.

[URL]http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/07/30/obama-nominates-former-mbta-head-beverly-scott-to-ntsb/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Camera3;2974344]So, I have a bone to pick with your town.

Here's the deal. I am the worlds oldest roadie. I tour with a fairly famous band, usually managing the other crew and often man the stage door, which allows me to take advantage of an occasional barely legal goth wannabe, but that is a story for another day.

So, the band was playing a private party at the World Trade Center area. We struck the gear the next day and sent the trucks off about 4 PM. The rest of the crew went drinking but I wanted to go back to the hotel, near the airport. Someone suggested I take the Silver bus to the airport. Sounded reasonable. Am used to taking public transportation. So, I jumped onto a bus, it emerged from the tunnel and it then took 30 minutes to get on the Interstate. Basically, a five minute walk away.

Holy shit! Who designed your public transportation system? A five year old kid with crayons? And why the fuck do you people put up with it? Obviously, there is something wrong with the politicians and beaurocrats making decisions and they are fucking all of you in the ass and you are taking it.

Why?

C3.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Camera3;2974344]So, I have a bone to pick with your town.

Here's the deal. I am the worlds oldest roadie. I tour with a fairly famous band, usually managing the other crew and often man the stage door, which allows me to take advantage of an occasional barely legal goth wannabe, but that is a story for another day.

So, the band was playing a private party at the World Trade Center area. We struck the gear the next day and sent the trucks off about 4 PM. The rest of the crew went drinking but I wanted to go back to the hotel, near the airport. Someone suggested I take the Silver bus to the airport. Sounded reasonable. Am used to taking public transportation. So, I jumped onto a bus, it emerged from the tunnel and it then took 30 minutes to get on the Interstate. Basically, a five minute walk away.

Holy shit! Who designed your public transportation system? A five year old kid with crayons? And why the fuck do you people put up with it? Obviously, there is something wrong with the politicians and beaurocrats making decisions and they are fucking all of you in the ass and you are taking it.

Why?

C3.[/QUOTE]Just be thankful that you get to leave, with that being said what could we do about it? Traffic sucks we all know this and just put up with it with that being said the MBTA can hardly keep itself afloat.

[QUOTE=DiegoSantis;2974411]I know not to feed the troll, but I had actually laughed out loud on this.

Yes, Welcome to Boston! We enjoy getting shafted on how our tax payer money gets spent.

Oh yeah, our MBTA head got a promotion, apparently for fucking us so good;.

[URL]http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/07/30/obama-nominates-former-mbta-head-beverly-scott-to-ntsb/[/URL][/QUOTE]You have 5 posts and you call Camera3 a troll and he has 1344 posts. Something is wrong here.

[QUOTE=Jrod6;2974418]Just be thankful that you get to leave, with that being said what could we do about it? Traffic sucks we all know this and just put up with it with that being said the MBTA can hardly keep itself afloat.[/QUOTE]Thank you for letting me vent. I am more pissed at the travel agent that put us at a hotel "near" the gig. When the band plays here they usually put us at a Holiday Inn that is near a subway stop and we get to this area that way. Of course, the "kids" (what us working guys call the band) get picked up in a couple of limos. I am not complaining.

What can you do about it? Well, a while back your forefathers when faced with some similar shit threw a whole ship load of tea in the harbor. It took a war to throw the bums out that time. Now, all you have to do is vote for someone that will do stuff for the good of the people. Call me an idealist, but I do hold out hope there is some honest person out there. Well, it could happen.

OK, I'm also pissed I didn't have time to get laid this trip as you guys do have some wonderful ladies here. Thanks for a good literary club.

Play safe.

C3.

[QUOTE=Yardape08;2974145]Not sure where to begin here but have to start somewhere. So this Renagade character emerged with his very first post attacking me over the Ho Hunter saga several months ago. At the time it seemed obvious he was a reincarnated member and I certainly guessed wrong as to who it was a couple of times.

But recently it became apparent that without a doubt he is the former member here who went by SouthsideMike who retired his name. I don't have a problem with anyone slamming me or refuting my posts with a solid argument however when it is done in such a cowardly way under a fake username slamming and prodding me and with rebuttals also strewn with lies I decided to call him out in the Brockton Streetwalker forum.

And now poor old SS Mike has become a bit unhinged with self righteous indignation that I'd do such a thing. And although he and I have quite a long history of sharing here he proceeded to attack and ridicule me through most of his early posts. He doesn't understand my contempt as he stated to me that he knew from my posting history that I was not thin skinned and used that as justification for his attacks. While LMAO to that. The majority of us here are in fact thin skinned as evidenced by all our fighting and I am a stubborn prick so if I'm attacked I feel forced to fight back. So I did just that and outed Renagade as SS Mike. Now he saw fit to out my first name in the Thunderdome forum. Any member here who posts under a false pretense deserves to be outed.

So Dude respond however you like but don't give me the holier than though bullshit that I'm an asshole and you're not. I fully admit I'm a card carrying asshole. You've always been an asshole here and you and everyone else knows it. Nothing wrong with being an asshole unless you deny it. You had your anonymous fun and now the anonymity part is over. Say whatever the fuck you want but at least now everyone will know who is saying it. Both you and Ho Hunter can Go Fuck Yourselves.[/QUOTE]Come to think of it NEIGHBOR I felt some heat on my thin skin too! Why would you bash Yard and myself and stick up for that pimp ho hunter when the info we had was first hand from the some girls that work for him? Another question, Did you ever lick Angela's pussy, how did my kid taste?

I can't begin to express my disappointment in you mike.

See you around town.

YF023.

[QUOTE=Yardape08;2974145]Renagade Is Southside Mike
At the time it seemed obvious he was a reincarnated member and I certainly guessed wrong as to who it was a couple of times.
But recently it became apparent that without a doubt he is the former member here who went by SouthsideMike who retired his name. I don't have a problem with anyone slamming me or refuting my posts with a solid argument [/QUOTE]Yard I believe everything you say about Renagade is true (he's on my ignore list), however I have a hard time seeing & believing that SSM is Renagade due to the below posts that SSM has made showing that he is not a proponent of Ho Hunter aka Jack.

That along with a PMs I had with SSM about HO Hunter, he also stated that it was yourself & YF that enlightened him (myself & most of the board) as to who & what HO really is, if need be I could post those PMs, I would be hard put to do so but could if required.

SSM did have his posts changed to Member#5037 & so has many others, but they are still there for anyone to see that in his post he was no friend to HO.

[QUOTE=Member#5037;2510498]Really jack. There you go again. Always a after the fact. Sometimes I wonder if you really do. Well, this is the internet. Right.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#5037;2519501]Thats an accurate description of the surroundings. But the rest of your response is BS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#5037;2510498]Really jack. There you go again. Always a after the fact. Sometimes I wonder if you really do. Well, this is the internet. Right.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#5037;2451801]Well this is the internet, right jack? And I've got a 12" slong.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#5037;2360780]Of course not Jack, we wouldn't want you to share with us any of your insight.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#5037;2359832]How do you come up with her facebook HO? Did you know her too? Or are you just making this shit up?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#5037;2364831]The thing with Ho is he's not very forthcoming with info / intel unless you call him out. He will occasionally toss out a crumb but nothing you can make a meal of. If I was a Facebook nerd I would have known that. As I said Facebook is for kids, but now I'll look into it.[/QUOTE]I suppose it's within the realm of possibilities that they are one in the same, but given the above it doesn't make sense to me, but I've been wrong before & will be again & couldn't say how Renagade called you by name.

So I'm kind of wondering if Renagade is not an alter ego of Ho Hunter, not that I have proof of that one way or another, but given that start up time of Renagade along with recent calliing out of Ho Hunter it would seem more likely though that is purely circumstantial & it's not proof in & of itself.
If he or anyone is using multiple personas then they are here for only one thing & that's to cause BS & they are easy enough to spot if you look hard enough, then I put them on ignore & poof they're gone (mostly).

[QUOTE=Camera3;2974774]What can you do about it? Well, a while back your forefathers when faced with some similar shit threw a whole ship load of tea in the harbor. It took a war to throw the bums out that time. Now, all you have to do is vote for someone that will do stuff for the good of the people. Call me an idealist, but I do hold out hope there is some honest person out there. Well, it could happen.C3.[/QUOTE]& then he woke up, here have a cup of coffee [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlyFh97zy7M[/URL].

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCFjvo1-K4k[/URL]

[QUOTE=RichRim;2975812]Hey gentlemen where's the track? I drovE down to some of the areas you all discussed but found nothing last night.

I went to BHA, Tremont, and Dot Ave. Some help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Take this as very good advice:

You should stick with agencies or massage parlors. Some folks just shouldn't do certain things.

And YOU should not be looking for any 'track', unless you carry sufficient bail money. Picking up SW's isn't for everyone. The guys that are good at it don't need to ask questions.

Not trying to be an A.hole here, just trying to save you immense aggravation and legal fees.

[QUOTE=Spanker100;2975912]Take this as very good advice:

You should stick with agencies or massage parlors. Some folks just shouldn't do certain things.

And YOU should not be looking for any 'track', unless you carry sufficient bail money. Picking up SW's isn't for everyone. The guys that are good at it don't need to ask questions.

Not trying to be an A.hole here, just trying to save you immense aggravation and legal fees.[/QUOTE]Thanks you're an asshole. Picking up streetwalkers isn't like hitting an NBA 3, curing cancer or even frying McDonald's French fries, you clearly have a low opinion of your life skills. I'm not from the city. So I was hoping to get an idea of boundaries Dot is a long ass road. Seriously dude, don't act like you have some magic potion which makes a working girl magically pick you, or you have some special invisibility cloak which keeps you safe from LE. You like me are just looking for some relief. Next time keep your opinions to yourself if you don't have anything useful to say. Dick.

[QUOTE=RichRim;2975921]Thanks you're an asshole. Picking up streetwalkers isn't like hitting an NBA 3, curing cancer or even frying McDonald's French fries, you clearly have a low opinion of your life skills. I'm not from the city. So I was hoping to get an idea of boundaries Dot is a long ass road. Seriously dude, don't act like you have some magic potion which makes a working girl magically pick you, or you have some special invisibility cloak which keeps you safe from LE. You like me are just looking for some relief. Next time keep your opinions to yourself if you don't have anything useful to say. Dick.[/QUOTE]You just explained in perfect detail why you can't get laid in a whorehouse.

[QUOTE=Spanker100;2975937]You just explained in perfect detail why you can't get laid in a whorehouse.[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/gsuuA7_uQ8U[/URL]

[QUOTE=Skatar018;2974955] (he's on my ignore list), [/QUOTE]Dude, why would you place me on your ignore list? Until this point we've had no other interaction.