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Nah
[QUOTE=Chill Pill]LOL. I think that was the same night you met Bonnie? I had Olivia on my lap at the same time. Good times.......BTW Bonnie asked about you last week. Told her you were saving yourself for her...............
Dave30 as you probably know Zoya and Nadia are two different person, places or things otherwise known as nouns. I may have seen her tonight as I was there. There was a dark haired eastern European type there but never caught her name as I was busy w/ a cutie on my lap................Oh my here I go again.[/QUOTE]
Nope- that was the afternoon chill with Scup, BTL, How, and JZ actually. Yes the next never to be ex-Mrs Ilapp called and said she had seen you. After yesterday I can't exactly say that I am saving myself for her, but I didn't use it all I guess.
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BBF-Tuesday Evening
Ok which one of you guys were at BBf last night, sitting on the raised level with Dakota. Around 6:30 7 or so.
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General question
Hello, all,
I'm relatively new to all of this and had a question for some of the senior members of the board.
Recently I was in town and decided to stop at one of the clubs since it was close to my hotel downtown. Anyway, I paid my cover, sat at the bar and had a couple of drinks. I was approached my a very cute girl that asked if I'd like a VIP dance to which I agreed. After the dance we had a seat at a table in the main section of the club and had a few drinks. She ended up sitting with me for the next 3 hours.
The question is this: When the club was closing, the server mentioned that is was customary to tip the dancer for sitting with me. I did not request her to sit with me, but did not ask her to leave either. As a matter of fact, I bought her more than a few drinks. At least a dozen or so.
I ended up tipping as I was told it was proper etiquette ($120). Is this accurate? Are you supposed to tip the dancers if they just sit with you for an extended period of time? Again, I'm new to all of this so this question may seem ignorant or funny to some of you.
Thanks in advance for helping out the "new guy".
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Thanks to the 3 of you that said "no".
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Tips
[QUOTE=Amixam]Hello, all,
I ended up tipping as I was told it was proper etiquette ($120). Is this accurate? Are you supposed to tip the dancers if they just sit with you for an extended period of time? Again, I'm new to all of this so this question may seem ignorant or funny to some of you.
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I think this is a very good question. It can go several ways. First if you did not ask her to sit with you and you bought her several drinks then a tip is not required. Actually a tip is never required and I would argue it is not proper etiquette for tipping when a girel sits with you. Have I been guilty of giving a girl $20.00 or even $40.00 if she hangs out with mek, yes I have. I would never, ever, give a girl $120.00 for sitting with me.
Tipping a girl that is sitting with you is cool if you frequent that club or tend to go back and want good attention.
In your case with the drinks you bought I would have given her $20.00 and called it a night. I think you got taken for $120.00
wouldnt mind hearing other opinions.
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Agreed.
[QUOTE=JimBeamCoke]In your case with the drinks you bought I would have given her $20.00 and called it a night. I think you got taken for $120.00
wouldnt mind hearing other opinions.[/QUOTE]
I think you nailed it.
TA2
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Bbf
Visited BBF for the first time this afternoon. Mostly 5s, a few 7s. Nothing worth taking to the VIP, so I went back to work.
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[QUOTE=Niceguy52]Ok which one of you guys were at BBf last night, sitting on the raised level with Dakota. Around 6:30 7 or so.[/QUOTE]
I was there but not w Dakota. My usual spot is front of the DJ booth
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I think Jim Beam nailed it. He'd already given her a VIP dance -not sure of Red garter price ) but $100+ to her. For me when the uninvited dancer sits in that situation I wouldn't tip and we probably would have addressed it at the end of the 30 minute session. When an dancer just invites herself I normally suggest something like I don't want to take up your time and keep you from making money. Then if she stays I feel it's totally my call with no etiquette obligation. If the guy does something to string along the conversation then he might have a tip to make.
[QUOTE=JimBeamCoke][QUOTE=Amixam]Hello, all,
I ended up tipping as I was told it was proper etiquette ($120). Is this accurate? Are you supposed to tip the dancers if they just sit with you for an extended period of time? Again, I'm new to all of this so this question may seem ignorant or funny to some of you.
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Tipping a girl that is sitting with you is cool if you frequent that club or tend to go back and want good attention.
In your case with the drinks you bought I would have given her $20.00 and called it a night. I think you got taken for $120.00
wouldnt mind hearing other opinions.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Chill Pill]I was there but not w Dakota. My usual spot is front of the DJ booth[/QUOTE]
I like that spot just don't get to the Brass enough to use it. Something I should change by going more often.
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[QUOTE=Amixam]The question is this: When the club was closing, the server mentioned that is was customary to tip the dancer for sitting with me. I did not request her to sit with me, but did not ask her to leave either. As a matter of fact, I bought her more than a few drinks. At least a dozen or so.[/QUOTE]
This is my feeling on the matter: This girl read you for an out-of-town newbie. She sat with you all night and leeched 12+ drinks out of you (at inflated prices, and at most clubs the girls get a cut of that). She probably made more off you sitting there than she would have working the floor. Then at closing time it was time to go in for the kill. But it doesn't work if she hits you up for cash, it makes her look like a leech. So, she has the waitress do it. Waitress gets a cut for pimpng her girl, and you leave 6 Jacksons lighter.
Unless you gave the $.2 to the waitress. Then it might have been her running the scam. She waits on you all night, you probably tip her well, tell her about staying in the hotel nearby, being from out of town, and new to the club scene. She cashes in, knowing you won't be back to complain.
Sounds pretty cynical, but one of these cases is probably the truth. Otherwise, how would the waitress know you didn't tip the dancer?
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Taken
[QUOTE=Amixam]Hello, all,
I'm relatively new to all of this and had a question for some of the senior members of the board.
Recently I was in town and decided to stop at one of the clubs since it was close to my hotel downtown. Anyway, I paid my cover, sat at the bar and had a couple of drinks. I was approached my a very cute girl that asked if I'd like a VIP dance to which I agreed. After the dance we had a seat at a table in the main section of the club and had a few drinks. She ended up sitting with me for the next 3 hours.
The question is this: When the club was closing, the server mentioned that is was customary to tip the dancer for sitting with me. I did not request her to sit with me, but did not ask her to leave either. As a matter of fact, I bought her more than a few drinks. At least a dozen or so.
I ended up tipping as I was told it was proper etiquette ($120). Is this accurate? Are you supposed to tip the dancers if they just sit with you for an extended period of time? Again, I'm new to all of this so this question may seem ignorant or funny to some of you.
Thanks in advance for helping out the "new guy".[/QUOTE]
No you don't owe the girl anything. If you want to tip her, then .2 to .4 would suffice at the most. She chose to sit with you. You bought her drinks. They look for and prey on guys who will pay just to sit with them. Makes it an easy night. If all you want is company and are willing to pay for it then go ahead. If I had a waitress tell me that then I would say "Yeah Right" and leave without any tip to prove a point. Besides when are you going to be back? It's not like you live in town. If you were planning on multiple visits with possible take out, then yes you want to give a small tip to keep things going for your next visit.
FF
PS. Just got a PM about an extremely freckled provider in Wichita. Could mean a road trip when the economy improves.
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I wish
[QUOTE=Niceguy52]Ok which one of you guys were at BBf last night, sitting on the raised level with Dakota. Around 6:30 7 or so.[/QUOTE]Wasn't me either, although I think she's got the most perfect little body. She needs to smile more because she looks perfect when she smiles. I've tried (not very hard) to get her to sit with me, but she's always headed somewhere else. Yesteday I stopped in for a bit around 2pm. Tipped her $2 at the stage and she asked me if I was going to stay for a while and asked where I was sitting. After she got off stage, she went right to the table in front of the door and sat with the door man and smoked until her next time on stage. In the mean time I got several great dances with a returning spinner named Sadie, and spent way too much money for a slow afternoon.
By the way, I'm going to be spending some more time with Sadie in the future.
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Thanks for all the feedback! Very helpful.
There was something I forgot to mention. At the end of the night the server came to the table (she was very nice all evening) and brought me a "rate sheet". Apparently it was a rate sheet that showed VIP rates. She suggested that I pay the VIP rate for 3 hours since she sat with me for 3 hours. Paying with a credit card, the total was something like $500. At that point I told her to pound sand (in a nice way), but felt obligated to tip her something. The funny thing is the dancer just sat there with a halo over her head, and didn't say a word.
You guys are probably right. She new I was from out of town. I was dressed in business attire so she probably saw dollar signs above my head.
Here's the follow up question: When I was leaving, she gave me her e-mail address to let her know when I'm back in town (not surprising after reading everyone's comments). If I do decide to contact her and meet her at the club, would I need to tip her on the next visit if she were to sit with me all night since technically I'd be reaching out to her?
How would you approach this if you were me and you visited the club again to see her? Would you feel obligated to tip her?
By the way, I really appreciate everyone's feedback. Thanks a lot!
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Amixam
How about a small tip for all these respons'es. Money orders or cc are accepted here.