"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Zcochran00;3940205]There's two potential factors involved:

1) Whether the client side (the message screen itself) can be "tricked" into showing the edit box.

2) Whether the server would accept a "send this message" request even if you don't have premium. It's likely that they would do some checks on the server and ignore the message, but you never know.

I suspect it's _technically_ possible to at least enable the message input box, but even if that works, there's only a small chance that it would accept any messages you send. Part of me would really like to fiddle around and see how much I could figure out, but like I said, I've got too much else to do.[/QUOTE]Jumping back in topic, do you think this will work w / the Epic browser? I use it b / c I am paranoid and don't want to leave any breadcrumbs in case my SO suddenly decided to do something w / my laptop.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3940283]Jumping back in topic, do you think this will work w / the Epic browser? I use it b / c I am paranoid and don't want to leave any breadcrumbs in case my SO suddenly decided to do something w / my laptop.[/QUOTE]Yeah, looks like Epic is based on Chromium (which is Chrome minus all the Google-specific stuff), so yes.

It should really work in any modern browser that has developer tools, Chrome and Firefox just happen to be what I use and am familiar with.

Sooo, what's the deal with the new payment options? I always used to do the PayPal option. Haven't had a subscription for a few months. Tried to re-up, and can't do it by PayPal.

Are you guys just using your personal cc's? I went to the store and thought about getting a prepaid one, but it clearly states on the back of all the cards that they can only be used for transactions IN the us, to help fight terrorism, blah blah. And I saw on some post where someone's card was declined because it was an international transaction.

Anyone know of any way to use a type of cc where you don't have to give your name / info? I searched for subscription and membership in this thread and didn't find anything helpful.

[QUOTE=Almighty;3940462]Sooo, what's the deal with the new payment options? I always used to do the PayPal option. Haven't had a subscription for a few months. Tried to re-up, and can't do it by PayPal.

Are you guys just using your personal cc's? I went to the store and thought about getting a prepaid one, but it clearly states on the back of all the cards that they can only be used for transactions IN the us, to help fight terrorism, blah blah. And I saw on some post where someone's card was declined because it was an international transaction.

Anyone know of any way to use a type of cc where you don't have to give your name / info? I searched for subscription and membership in this thread and didn't find anything helpful.[/QUOTE]I'm fairly certain my last renewal I got a prepaid card from walmart that was a AX bluebird that can be used internationally. A provider I've seen a few times actually told me about it when I renewedmy P411 membership and it worked for both, it's maybe $5 & reloads are free.

[QUOTE=DavidS78;3940471]I'm fairly certain my last renewal I got a prepaid card from walmart that was a AX bluebird that can be used internationally. A provider I've seen a few times actually told me about it when I renewedmy P411 membership and it worked for both, it's maybe $5 & reloads are free.[/QUOTE]Do you have to give your personal information when you sign up / activate the card?

[QUOTE=Zcochran00;3939986]it's actually possible to view the text content of messages even if you don't have premium time enabled.[/QUOTE]Thanks! This was really easy. I just pasted the responses into Notepad then searched for "original_body" to quickly find the messages.

I have a second account I use to keep an eye on new profiles during times when my primary account is disabled due to being in a Sugar relationship. It has no picture and no profile text, yet I still get messages sometimes. About half are from girls whose profiles I've viewed, and half are random. I've always been curious to see what they're saying if they're desperate enough to message an empty profile, but of course not curious enough to pay to see. So, getting to read all those for free was nice.

Most of the random ones were clear scams, and most of the ones from local girls I'd viewed were just "hey", "how are you? Or "why the empty profile?

[QUOTE=Almighty;3940573]Do you have to give your personal information when you sign up / activate the card?[/QUOTE]I used a fake name, they don't check anything. When I registered I did use my real address but I don't have a SO but you could use any address you wanted. You'd only have to register an address though if you wanted to continue using the same card otherwise just go spend $5 on a new one when you need it. I haven't used mine in months but I don't think anything has changed.

Based on the treads below looked into this regarding suggested friends showing up if you are searching FB for SB accounts.

Looks like the best you can do are these settings in the image.

In theory FB says it will pick up only for friends of friends and not others. So hard to tell if your profile will show up depending on how big your circle is.

There are no other controls on this feature and essentially FB wants you to expand your reach, so they don't care to limit this.

[QUOTE=EasyeOne;3939969]Small talk and then the long message with expectations / rules. Although not asking for money for the meet, to schedule the second date requires a 300 payment upfront before the second date? Wants 600 per month but needs the 300 upfront. Am I missing something?

"I ask that on the first date we get to know each other & determine if we want to pursue an arrangement. By the end of the 1st date, if & ONLY if we both want to move forward I do ask 300 allowance which goes towards the monthly 600 that I ask for. This provides me with safety and comfort knowing you are genuinely interested in an arrangement and my value is not equated to simply sex=money. Otherwise I would just feel like a hooker. This is NOT upfront, it's only if we both decide to have a 2nd date".[/QUOTE]These girls are getting creative. "This is NOT upfront" except she has you pay for the date before it happens which is the very definition of paying upfront (or at least half paying upfront). I wonder if the second date ever happens. To me this one has 'rinser' all over it.

[QUOTE=DavidS78;3940471]I'm fairly certain my last renewal I got a prepaid card from walmart that was a AX bluebird that can be used internationally. A provider I've seen a few times actually told me about it when I renewedmy P411 membership and it worked for both, it's maybe $5 & reloads are free.[/QUOTE]The AX Bluebird card requires a valid SS #. So it is not an anonymous card. If you are just trying to hide it from the SO then it may work, give them a correct SS # but a phony address. But hiding from other prying eyes it is not secure from identifying you. Besides I would be surprised if you gave American Express your SS # they wouldn't automatically know your address and call you out for the attempt to give them a phony one.

[QUOTE=EasyeOne;3939969]Small talk and then the long message with expectations / rules. Although not asking for money for the meet, to schedule the second date requires a 300 payment upfront before the second date? Wants 600 per month but needs the 300 upfront. Am I missing something?

"I ask that on the first date we get to know each other & determine if we want to pursue an arrangement. By the end of the 1st date, if & ONLY if we both want to move forward I do ask 300 allowance which goes towards the monthly 600 that I ask for. This provides me with safety and comfort knowing you are genuinely interested in an arrangement and my value is not equated to simply sex=money. Otherwise I would just feel like a hooker. This is NOT upfront, it's only if we both decide to have a 2nd date".[/QUOTE]I had the exact same exchange scenario with her, right down to the cut&pasted spiel about 300 at the end of the first date for the second. I told her sorry, while I generally give a gift card at the M&G, I never pre-pay in any fashion, and that if that made her feel too much like a hooker, sorry. She thanked me and disappeared.

Just checking if you have the same experience. I find the girls that check the Friends With Benefits box are expecting to go to the FC with their SD. Ones who only check boxes that show they want a great lifestyle and all the goodies without offering something in return are more likely to have GPS. Does Friends With Benefits signal the same to you?

[QUOTE=InTight;3940821]Just checking if you have the same experience. I find the girls that check the Friends With Benefits box are expecting to go to the FC with their SD. Ones who only check boxes that show they want a great lifestyle and all the goodies without offering something in return are more likely to have GPS. Does Friends With Benefits signal the same to you?[/QUOTE]FWB is always good to see as an interest but you still need to have "game" to set yourself apart as one told me she got so many messages that she undid that box. I only have FWB and Discretion checked on my profile. So any POT that views my profile and continues to message me is usually open to intimacy.

[QUOTE=CrazySpice;3940188]This procedure works to read messages but it takes lot of time to search and identify messages out of thousands of php scripting words. It would be worth if there is a way to reply messages. Do you know how to reply messages?[/QUOTE]Unlikely. One is a [B]GET[/B] and the other is a [B]POST[/B].

Any trusted SBs around Roanoke VA area? PM info and SA profile name.