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[QUOTE=JustMe79;7233655]Yeah, made contact but I don't know about these apartment. Looks rough.[/QUOTE]Looks like that joint on a dead end in Carondolet would require a major imvestment to upgrade it enough to become merely rough. Scroll on street view to see the classy vista on the other side of Courtois. I'd want to be armed, and put on my best imitation of a "mean motherfucker" face. I doubt anyone staying there would ever bother to call anyone about hearing little stuff like gun shots and screams and whatnot.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuyStl;7231976]Agree with all of those points. Any tips on finding UTRs of late? I used to have a ton of luck on SA but the last few turns I've paid over there its the same with GPS, scammers, and pro's.[/QUOTE]Wish I knew brother where to find UTR. I've just been lucky. Most of it came from just being a good regular, keeping my appointment and probably not being a dick. I mean I treat them like decent people. Take them to lunch, an occasional gift, birthday cards, Christmas gift. These little things make all the difference and separate you from the pack. I've had a UTR in Springfield for 14 years. Isn't that crazy! Two UTRs in STL that wouldn't be a shock to anyone, but they never advertise, however one is becoming bdsm and that's not my thing. But being they're UTR I can't say much more. Wish I could.
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Lovely Report #2
[QUOTE=JBurrows;7215253]Typical 'on the move' incall hotel w / all personal belongings filling the room. I was greeted by a skinny / petite AA in nothing but a white T. Entering the room I could tell that efforts were made to ........
.......Would the 120/160 be a bargain? Absolutely! Would I repeat? Hell yes! She's just my type (small frame) & a 'deal' at 120/160. Just wish she would stay south as I would rather not hit north city or downtown. Also, finding a skinny provider these days whos not meth'd out in STL. Good luck.
Stay safe & enjoy![/QUOTE]My my what a two weeks will do.
*So did I recommend after the 1st visit? Yes, yes I did.
*Do I need to 'keep my rep' up by providing the night & day difference on round 2? Yes, yes I do.
*Disclaimer: This is a play-by-play review. Very detailed for others to make up their own mind. (That's how I roll.).
So I texted a day prior to line up location, time, expectations. She's very chill & responsive AND has a legit understanding (human) of my "escape" needs. (Daytime, non inner city locations, etc) We confirmed that as she didn't have the cash for a room (of course) & I didn't want to get an hourly, or a room for a couple days (due to my 10 am - 3 pm needs) & incall at 'her home' would be best.
She gave address & I told her my travel time no big deal. (Ironically for those who know, this was just north of Wonderful Days incall. God I miss them!) We texted a bit as I neared, found the place off a very busy road & parked. A little sketch area, but as this was a well traveled road, figured no big deal. I texted I arrived & was told to wait as she Ubered to the store but was returning in 2 min.
Now of course, at this point, my Spidey Senses were going off a little. I looked around & felt I was in a good position to jet if needed as I was parked on the shoulder of the road. No big deal. I even laughed about the thought of replies to this post of 'your an idiot. I woulda been gone'. Well, it gets better. As I'm waiting, looking around, I hear a man yelling "HEY! HEY! COME ON! I look to my left & see a guy holding the door of the incall open looking a bit pissed. I immediately texted 'so is this your BF or' while keeping an eye out my peripheral right eye. He kept stepping in the door but coming out keeping half his body in. I'm thinking "do I bounce? Can I dodge a bullet?" I lean back a bit in my seat (just in case) as he goes back inside then the blinds in the window close. I get a text back 'oh that's my brother. He's taking his baby momma to a Dr appointment so we can be alone. You'll see them leave in a second. '.
Ummm. Ok. Like the song "should I stay or should I go?" I seriously was thinking how many of you woulda bounced at this moment. Then I see a Tesla loop around & part behind me. I was an Indian driver who appeared he was looking for this address. Now I don't know if she double booked or (clearly he wasn't LEO). Then I see a pregnant lady come out of the house & lock the door. In my rearview I see dude pop out the back of the house towards the rear door of the Tesla. I get another text saying "they should be leaving now. Its fine. " I choose to 'hold on' & watched the two hop in the Tesla & speed away. WHEW!
A minute later another car pulls up (in front of me this time) full of people. They park & as I'm getting a 'I'm here' text she hops out the front of the car & walks to the front door of incall. She unlocks the door & waves me in.
As I enter it reeks of 420. The place is fairly empty with only a few basic items. Trash bags piled up in various areas not trash but more 'on the move' style. We chat, she moves some pillows off the coach & spreads out a comforter. Tells me I can have a seat. We chat a little as she grabs a cigarette & sets it on the coffee table. She connects to a speaker sitting on the table & begins to play some music. She strips down naked while mumbling some chit chat. I couldn't hear half of what she said & felt bad asking 'what's that?' 'huh?
I sit down & she sits next to me & begins send / receiving text. I rub her back a little which she asks if I wanted Vaseline. Umm. No. I'm good. (Have not heard of a Vaseline massage but whatever. Awkward.) I begin to drop my drawers a little as a reminder what we're here for. She gets up & heads to the kitchen saying something (couldn't hear). I stand up keeping an eye out then I hear the spark of a stove click & I realize she was lighting her cigarette.
She returns smoking so I decide "ok let's do this". She lays across me & begins a very lazy HJ. I move to a staddle & ask for BJ as I see she's already got the cover in hand. (Umm. Nope. BBBJ hello? She sets this down (while still holding the cigarette) & begins a nice BBBJ. After a few moments she moves to open the cover & puts it on. She gives me a little more sucking then her phone rings. (I'm not kidding) She answers on speaker while barely giving me a covered HJ talking to dude saying 'I'm w / a client what's up'.
So here we are. I'm on my knees, my covered dick in her hand. A cigarette & phone on speaker in the other. W. T. F. She gets off the phone as I'm going a little limp. She plays some other song on her playlist saying 'dude was killing my mood'. No no. YOU are killing the mood.
At this point I'm like let's just get this done. I manage to raise to the occasion & do a little leg up missionary. I'm shocked to discover I'm almost falling in! Like since my last visit she's been practicing w / a fist or something. Like I was barely catching surface though I was harder this go then last. After a minute or two THEN she gets some texts which she clears out. Then ANOTHER call (which she sends to VM but still grabbed the device while I was working). All while flicking her ashes on the floor just next to my clothes / shoes. WTF.
After a little more work & a few moans I'm spent. She offers a towel but has to search the home for one. I ask where to put the cover & we search (her brothers home) for a trashcan. I FINALLY find one in a weird place where she asks to hide it. Thank GOD there was an open chip bag so I didn't have to dig in some gross trash.
She hands me a hand towel she finds in the bathroom from who knows where. Asks if I want some soap as she's looking in the shower. I'm like NOPE I'm good (get me the fuck out of here). We chat a little more as I get dressed. Again, super nice & very chill. However, would I repeat based on this experience. No no no no no. If I was in a pinch & she had a motel incall & it was cheap & convenient MAYBE. However, this was not the 200 deal I had before! (Live & learn) Would I even consider this worth her original 120/160 rate? No. 80? Sure. 100? Ehhh in a pinch.
So now I have to ask which was the normal? My 1st or 2nd visit? I guess in this game you have to judge on the worst & this was pretty bad.
Stay Safe! Keep Reporting!
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Passion
[QUOTE=Alerius;7233019]Been looking at a couple different girls for a trip to Greece. Does anyone have any feedback on either of these girls?
Sasha - [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/184352235[/URL] I can't find anything here under the name Sasha. I remember she used to go by a different name, but I can't remember what it was, so can't search for that.
Passion - [URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/st-louis/female-escorts/caucasian_w/passion-the-greek-goddess-203-/210623475410[/URL] There's another Passion that's been discussed quite a bit, but I can't find anything on this one on this board.[/QUOTE]I saw passion a couple months ago for incall. Her body is skinny but droopy (like she used to be fat but lost a lot of weight). He face looks like the pictures. She was unenthusiastic and told me she just wants guys to "stick it in and get it over with quickly". She was unhygienic. Her pussy was tight in a bad way because, as she said, she really wasn't into it. The bbj was fine. I think is was 150 qv 200 hhr.
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Any information on Aqua?
Saw what might be a gem in the rough? Anyone got any info on how this provider is? Thanks.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/183894762[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Yakov;7234442]I saw passion a couple months ago for incall. Her body is skinny but droopy (like she used to be fat but lost a lot of weight). He face looks like the pictures. She was unenthusiastic and told me she just wants guys to "stick it in and get it over with quickly". She was unhygienic. Her pussy was tight in a bad way because, as she said, she really wasn't into it. The bbj was fine. I think is was 150 qv 200 hhr.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. Too many red flags there for me.
Anyone have any info on Sasha? She's over in Granite City and has been posting for a long time. I can't remember the name she used to post under.
[URL]https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6182511785[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Alerius;7235490]Thanks for the heads up. Too many red flags there for me.
Anyone have any info on Sasha? She's over in Granite City and has been posting for a long time. I can't remember the name she used to post under.
[URL]https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6182511785[/URL][/QUOTE]Sasha used to go by the name Pretty. I haven't seen her but she's on my list to see. You got to take listcrawler reviews with a grain of salt but she does have a ton of good reviews there, esp for BBBJ. I did not know she offers greek. I inquired last year and rates were 175/ hhr, 225/ hr. +50 GFE.
Last I saw for Greek was Kai. Hot, bubbly little girl. Was not GFE and looks like her rates have gone up a bit, at least on tryst. Some other girls I'm interested in seeing for Greek are Star (-6087 number on LC), Kali (STG), Jordan (LC), Lindsey (LC), Marley (STG). Have not seen any of them. I also think I've seen reviews saying that Angie and Heather Slayinem allowed Greek. Both are on Tryst and I've had excellent times with both.
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[QUOTE=RomanBath;7235942]Sasha used to go by the name Pretty. I haven't seen her but she's on my list to see. You got to take listcrawler reviews with a grain of salt but she does have a ton of good reviews there, esp for BBBJ. I did not know she offers greek. I inquired last year and rates were 175/ hhr, 225/ hr. +50 GFE.
Last I saw for Greek was Kai. Hot, bubbly little girl. Was not GFE and looks like her rates have gone up a bit, at least on tryst. Some other girls I'm interested in seeing for Greek are Star (-6087 number on LC), Kali (STG), Jordan (LC), Lindsey (LC), Marley (STG). Have not seen any of them. I also think I've seen reviews saying that Angie and Heather Slayinem allowed Greek. Both are on Tryst and I've had excellent times with both.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the info! Of your list, I've seen Lindsey but it's been a couple years. She's very friendly and easy to communicate with. For her age (probably early to mid 40's), she's got a solid body. A little thick but definitely not fat or flabby. Everything is covered, but it's one of the best CBJs I've had.
I've tried to set up something with Star a couple times, but no luck yet. I've had great times with Angie and Heather too, but didn't know greek might be on the menu. I may have to repeat there.
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Selena Intell
Please tell me this isn't TGTBT? I've reached out & great REAL convo! (Down to earth & real convo. Like you're textin a friend.) I received a verification pic & confirmed it's the same grl. Rate reasonable (hhr 2). Does ANYONE have ANY intel before I TOFTT?!
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/184611101#[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Alerius;7236063]Thanks for all the info! Of your list, I've seen Lindsey but it's been a couple years. She's very friendly and easy to communicate with. For her age (probably early to mid 40's), she's got a solid body. A little thick but definitely not fat or flabby. Everything is covered, but it's one of the best CBJs I've had.
I've tried to set up something with Star a couple times, but no luck yet. I've had great times with Angie and Heather too, but didn't know greek might be on the menu. I may have to repeat there.[/QUOTE]Got a link for Lindsay?
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[QUOTE=JohnnyMong;7237070]Got a link for Lindsay?[/QUOTE][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/184052702[/URL]
She hasn't posted for over a week, but I highly doubt she's "retired".
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Selena Report
[QUOTE=JBurrows;7237051]Please tell me this isn't TGTBT? I've reached out & great REAL convo! (Down to earth & real convo. Like you're textin a friend.) I received a verification pic & confirmed it's the same grl. Rate reasonable (hhr 2). Does ANYONE have ANY intel before I TOFTT?!
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/184611101#[/URL][/QUOTE]Well gentleman. I TOFTT. Let me just start by saying these 6+ years of reading, posting, & reviewing have been fun & educational. In addition, these 10+ years of the hobby have been quite a run! I can say that with the connection & experience I just received from Selena I'm am 'retiring'. I am no longer in search of "The Best In STL" as I feel I just found it!! She was the sweetest, kindest, most beautiful looking provider I have been with! She has also got to be one of the best looking, best personality, & best experiences I've had in my many years on this earth.
While there was nothing 'crazy' that happened, this was the most HUMAN experience I've had. The biggest connection I've had. I swear, if she was looking for a new partner in life; sign me up! I even stopped by the store on the way home to purchase boxes as I intend on ending my current relationship tonight. (No I'm not on something!
As mentioned, text conversation leading up to meet seemed WAY too good. Like a complete set up. This was not a set up at all! She's a pure person just trying to get by! When I arrived we sat outside & talked for 15+ minutes like old friends. Then more good conversation leading to the room. (I'm thinking ok this has GOT to be a set up.) We get to the room & after at LEAST another 20 minutes of conversation we got to business. This was one of the most natural GFE times I've had in my life! Let's just put it this way. SHE asked ME if it was OK to DFK. W. T. F. ! After we were done we sat and talked at least another 30+. I didn't want to leave!! It was like I was hanging out with a friend I swear!
All I can say is GREAT GREAT GREAT! I felt like I was with a new GF! OMG.
TREAT HER RIGHT! PLEASE! She's been done wrong already and she's TOO nice and TOO natural to deserve a $$holes.
The whole thing seemed WAY too good to be true! It was not. I have found my 'one true' whatever. Never again will I see another provider. I don't know what else to say. Sorry for rambling but I feel like I just met someone real and had a real experience. This did NOT feel like service at all!
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[QUOTE=JBurrows;7237398]Well gentleman. I TOFTT. Let me just start by saying these 6+ years of reading, posting, & reviewing have been fun & educational.[/QUOTE]Wow, great find! To be honest, I looked at her ad real quick and moved on. Hot pictures, out of state area code, only 3 days of ads, zero listcrawler comments / reviews, and nothing coming up by searching phone number. The odds are that it's bait / switch, scam, or traveling girl who have moved on to the next city before I can set something up. But I just set something up with her so I hope it goes as well as yours.
I'm glad you found an experience like this. I've been doing this for a while, and used to find girls like her more often. But the hobby is different nowadays. She does seem pretty new to this so I hope she gets a thick enough skin to keep going, though that usually means a less intimate experience.
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Selena
Thanks for the report and taking one for the team! Too bad she doesn't offer BBBJ. That's a deal breaker for me. Otherwise I'd be all over her as a new regular. Even though she's out for me, I do want to applaud you and reinforce your request to treat her well!
[QUOTE=RomanBath;7237567]Wow, great find! To be honest, I looked at her ad real quick and moved on. Hot pictures, out of state area code, only 3 days of ads, zero listcrawler comments / reviews, and nothing coming up by searching phone number. The odds are that it's bait / switch, scam, or traveling girl who have moved on to the next city before I can set something up. But I just set something up with her so I hope it goes as well as yours.
I'm glad you found an experience like this. I've been doing this for a while, and used to find girls like her more often. But the hobby is different nowadays. She does seem pretty new to this so I hope she gets a thick enough skin to keep going, though that usually means a less intimate experience.[/QUOTE]
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Utr
I got banned from SA and their sister site WYP. After trying endless times to get reinstated, I gave up. That sad story has been repeated on this board time and again.
I found Secret Benefits. It's not nearly as well-populated as SA or WYP but it's not bad and if you learn to only stick with girls who have been "verified" you can maximize your spend.
Otherwise you can spend all your time (and $) replying to or reaching out to unverified users who are probably bots. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=ThatGuyStl;7231976]Agree with all of those points. Any tips on finding UTRs of late? I used to have a ton of luck on SA but the last few turns I've paid over there its the same with GPS, scammers, and pro's.[/QUOTE]