[QUOTE=TheMarto1;3937356]For all those of you that like give money away without playtime.[/QUOTE]Says pretty clearly that she doesn't want to date. What's confusing about it?
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[QUOTE=TheMarto1;3937356]For all those of you that like give money away without playtime.[/QUOTE]Says pretty clearly that she doesn't want to date. What's confusing about it?
I dreamt of the absolutely most exquisite sb. 24. Body won't stop. Wet kitty. Expensive. But compared to broke crack hoes worth every penny. Got to catch myself. She's not into me. Just that $$. But she's a gen.
[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3939135]She has been discussed several times before and used to go by "The Baroness". Crazy GPS that is really hard to understand. She has been doing the same stupid stuff for years, claims to be a keynote speaker at the Sugar Baby forum and all.
She is well below the quality of any of my past SB and an order of magnitude more expensive.
Run far, run fast![/QUOTE]That's crazy. That chick is seriously not that hot, and is clearly drama. She's like a Caucasian Amarosa. LOL.
In general, your statement on single photo profiles is correct in my experience. But, I can give you two examples where it turned out to be wrong. The SB I have found from SA that I dated for the longest had a single photo in her profile. It was my early days on SA, I was just sending messages to all. But I asked her more photos after few messages, she texted me. She turned out to be a great find. The key is to ask for more photos very early in communication, and see if they do it. I usually read the profile anyway even if she has a single photo. You can get some clues. Most recently I messaged a 19 year college girl who had a single face photo and profile said "curvy", a sure shot case of a fat girl. She texted me an additional photo, but it was not conclusive either, but the profile seemed genuine and communication was good. So, I took a chance for a "no obligation" meet. She turned out to be a well figured cute girl (I would call her "slim" actually). The arrangement didn't work out due to other issues (allowance etc) though. With 18-22-olds you never know what they think.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
[QUOTE=Ripvan12;3939219]
For me. I have started to ignore females with only one picture on their profile! Sure I might be missing out on some goodies. But what woman you know is comfortable with just ONE pic of themselves. On a dating app with plenty of competition? My experience has been. Mostly. That these one-picture girls have one foot in and one foot out. Not really seeking anything quickly and prefer a lot of back and forth dialogue over 5-6 days.
Be safe. Ripper.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BStreet;3938514]On this one, anyone. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/01d1bc78-088e-4fce-8ee4-18ceafac6f68[/URL].[/QUOTE]Small talk and then the long message with expectations / rules. Although not asking for money for the meet, to schedule the second date requires a 300 payment upfront before the second date? Wants 600 per month but needs the 300 upfront. Am I missing something?
"I ask that on the first date we get to know each other & determine if we want to pursue an arrangement. By the end of the 1st date, if & ONLY if we both want to move forward I do ask 300 allowance which goes towards the monthly 600 that I ask for. This provides me with safety and comfort knowing you are genuinely interested in an arrangement and my value is not equated to simply sex=money. Otherwise I would just feel like a hooker. This is NOT upfront, it's only if we both decide to have a 2nd date".
We all know that (at least the members here), and has been discussed here numerous times. The chances of success for girls looking for on-line, or "platonic" are slim and either they drop out of the scene or learn how to spread their legs little bit more to stay in business. I have about a year of experience with SA, and met at least 50 potential SB's in person. For the first time, I met a girl two days ago who confessed to that fact. She is a 20 year old college junior (exchange student). We got comfortable with each other very quickly. She told me she tried "online" first with no success at all. Then changed her profile to 'platonic', still very little interested parties. Only when she offered "intimacy", there were serious interest from SDs.
Fast forward, this girl is model quality (at least 9. 5 out of 10 in my scale), slim girl with curves at the right places, cute face and flawless body. Spent 2 hours at FC yesterday, the best erotic experience in my life. Not just the sex, the whole experience was far beyond what I expected. There are few gems out there if you are patient enough to find them.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
I know it was a stupid move from me. I thought she was bull shitting me about being pre-med etc, I didn't think all add up. I asked her for a confirmation of her age, she handed her drivers licence to me. Very unique name, I found all her info through social media etc, and all she told me turned out to be true. Good news is that I took her to FC after few days, she turned out to be an energizer bunny in bed. So, I didn't loose out. She is still little too big for my liking though.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
[QUOTE=InTight;3920583]I'm shocked you turned down a 19 yo pussy. I have always thought that you only have time to get so much pussy and any missed opportunity is just a missed chance and lost forever. I have to hand it to you for your resolve but fault you for not getting it when you can.[/QUOTE]
I'm a programmer, and I spend a good portion of my time doing web development. I've noted that SA has been rewriting portions of their site from a traditional "click link, wait for server return the new page" style to a "single-page application" approach. Turns out that due to some rather silly programming choices on their part, it's actually possible to view the text content of messages even if you don't have premium time enabled.
It involves opening up your browser's "development tools" window so you can inspect the contents of the page and the data being requested, and should work in either Chrome or Firefox.
Log in to SA and go to your inbox. Right-click anywhere on the page and choose "Inspect Element". The browser's dev tools should either pop up as a separate window, or as part of the main window. Click on the "network" tab in the dev tools. Then, back in the SA inbox screen, click on a conversation.
If you go back to the "network" tab, you should see a list of all the data requests the SA page asked for from the server. One of them should look like "/ inbox? Page=1&limit=25". Click on that one. It'll show a bunch of technical details of some of the message headers.
Now, look for a tab called "Response". If you click on that, you should see a tree with sections like "status", "message", "conversation", and "metadata". Expand "conversation" "messages" "data". You should see some numbered entries, 0 and up. Those represent each of the messages in the conversation, from both of you. (Side note: the "metadata" object has a whole bunch of info that they know about your own account. Some of it is info you entered yourself, like profile info. There's also things like "payments_total", which appears to be how much you've actually ever paid SA, unread message count, whether you're in the EU, and even fields labeled "has_under_age_punishment" and "has_unacknowledged_punishment". Very interesting.)
Each message entry has a field called "body", which is the text that's shown in your inbox. If you've got premium active, it's the actual message text. If not, it's "Upgrade to read".
Here's where they did something silly. They send back the text that should be shown, but *they also send back the original text too*. So, even if the "body" field says "Upgrade to read", the "original_body" field shows the actual no-kidding message that was sent. You can inspect each of the messages that was received, and effectively read the conversation.
It's not a substitute for reading messages in the inbox as usual, but it might be helpful for anyone who gets a message when they don't have premium active and wants to peek at it without having to immediately shell out the cash to read it.
As a programmer, I can tell that there's actually a _ton_ of useful information being returned whenever you view a profile page or inbox page. It would be possible for someone to write a browser extension that either extracted some of that info from a page, or re-requested that data from the server, and did something useful with it (up to and including modifying an inbox to show all the messages without needing premium enabled). Sadly, I don't have time to work on anything like that myself. I've got a lot of other things on my plate.
Hope that helps!
[QUOTE=DrSummer;3939976]We all know that (at least the members here), and has been discussed here numerous times. The chances of success for girls looking for on-line, or "platonic" are slim and either they drop out of the scene or learn how to spread their legs little bit more to stay in business. I have about a year of experience with SA, and met at least 50 potential SB's in person. For the first time, I met a girl two days ago who confessed to that fact. She is a 20 year old college junior (exchange student). We got comfortable with each other very quickly. She told me she tried "online" first with no success at all. Then changed her profile to 'platonic', still very little interested parties. Only when she offered "intimacy", there were serious interest from SDs.
Fast forward, this girl is model quality (at least 9. 5 out of 10 in my scale), slim girl with curves at the right places, cute face and flawless body. Spent 2 hours at FC yesterday, the best erotic experience in my life. Not just the sex, the whole experience was far beyond what I expected. There are few gems out there if you are patient enough to find them.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.[/QUOTE]Care to share her profile name?
Sorry, I struck a deal with her right after the first date for two dates a week on a weekly allowance, I couldn't resist. She says she has time for only only SD. Although I am not sure I believe that, I am not inclined to share her details as of now. Anyway, I am (and SB) in Charleston, and if you are in Richmond, it may not work anyway. I come here to Richmond SB forum mainly to get general info, tactics etc, not really to get intel on girls.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
[QUOTE=RVASpider;3940088]Care to share her profile name?[/QUOTE]
If anyone is interested in the girl I mentioned here, her profile is below. Note that I just met her and chatted, didn't go to FC, so not sure what the experience would be. She is about 40 miles away from Columbia, SC (I live in Charleston). If anyone has luck with her, please share.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a283d214-d435-462e-b7ad-cda6f76c8f6e[/URL]
[QUOTE=DrSummer;3939946] Most recently I messaged a 19 year college girl who had a single face photo and profile said "curvy", a sure shot case of a fat girl. She texted me an additional photo, but it was not conclusive either, but the profile seemed genuine and communication was good. So, I took a chance for a "no obligation" meet. She turned out to be a well figured cute girl (I would call her "slim" actually). The arrangement didn't work out due to other issues (allowance etc) though. With 18-22-olds you never know what they think.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.[/QUOTE]
This procedure works to read messages but it takes lot of time to search and identify messages out of thousands of php scripting words. It would be worth if there is a way to reply messages. Do you know how to reply messages?
[QUOTE=Zcochran00;3939986]I'm a programmer, and I spend a good portion of my time doing web development. I've noted that SA has been rewriting portions of their site from a traditional "click link, wait for server return the new page" style to a "single-page application" approach. Turns out that due to some rather silly programming choices on their part, it's actually possible to view the text content of messages even if you don't have premium time enabled.
It involves opening up your browser's "development tools" window so you can inspect the contents of the page and the data being requested, and should work in either Chrome or Firefox.
Log in to SA and go to your inbox. Right-click anywhere on the page and choose "Inspect Element". The browser's dev tools should either pop up as a separate window, or as part of the main window. Click on the "network" tab in the dev tools. Then, back in the SA inbox screen, click on a conversation.
If you go back to the "network" tab, you should see a list of all the data requests the SA page asked for from the server. One of them should look like "/ inbox? Page=1&limit=25". Click on that one. It'll show a bunch of technical details of some of the message headers.
Now, look for a tab called "Response". If you click on that, you should see a tree with sections like "status", "message", "conversation", and "metadata". Expand "conversation" "messages" "data". You should see some numbered entries, 0 and up. Those represent each of the messages in the conversation, from both of you. (Side note: the "metadata" object has a whole bunch of info that they know about your own account. Some of it is info you entered yourself, like profile info. There's also things like "payments_total", which appears to be how much you've actually ever paid SA, unread message count, whether you're in the EU, and even fields labeled "has_under_age_punishment" and "has_unacknowledged_punishment". Very interesting.)
Each message entry has a field called "body", which is the text that's shown in your inbox. If you've got premium active, it's the actual message text. If not, it's "Upgrade to read".
Here's where they did something silly. They send back the text that should be shown, but *they also send back the original text too*. So, even if the "body" field says "Upgrade to read", the "original_body" field shows the actual no-kidding message that was sent. You can inspect each of the messages that was received, and effectively read the conversation.
It's not a substitute for reading messages in the inbox as usual, but it might be helpful for anyone who gets a message when they don't have premium active and wants to peek at it without having to immediately shell out the cash to read it.
As a programmer, I can tell that there's actually a _ton_ of useful information being returned whenever you view a profile page or inbox page. It would be possible for someone to write a browser extension that either extracted some of that info from a page, or re-requested that data from the server, and did something useful with it (up to and including modifying an inbox to show all the messages without needing premium enabled). Sadly, I don't have time to work on anything like that myself. I've got a lot of other things on my plate.
Hope that helps![/QUOTE]
Girls with premium accounts have very high GPS problems.
[QUOTE=DrSummer;3940141]If anyone is interested in the girl I mentioned here, her profile is below. Note that I just met her and chatted, didn't go to FC, so not sure what the experience would be. She is about 40 miles away from Columbia, SC (I live in Charleston). If anyone has luck with her, please share.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a283d214-d435-462e-b7ad-cda6f76c8f6e[/URL][/QUOTE]
Lot of them asking money though cash pay apps or pay gas money to meetup.
Seeking should charge membership fee to the girls to weed out these type of spam.
[QUOTE=Ripvan12;3939219]Hey brothers. I also posted this in the Atlanta thread, but curious to hear your thoughts as well.
Let me be clear. There are plenty of gems still on the site, but the amount of time I have invested this go round weeding out flakes and scammers has been insane. By now most veterans know the rules to spot the spammers and old BP pros (talk of time limits, in town for only one night, send me money before meeting, can you cover my gas money, my mother is having a major surgery, blah blah).
But what are some other methods you guys are using to weed out the flakes and scammers?
For me. I have started to ignore females with only one picture on their profile! Sure I might be missing out on some goodies. But what woman you know is comfortable with just ONE pic of themselves. On a dating app with plenty of competition? My experience has been. Mostly. That these one-picture girls have one foot in and one foot out. Not really seeking anything quickly and prefer a lot of back and forth dialogue over 5-6 days.
Be safe. Ripper.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CrazySpice;3940188]This procedure works to read messages but it takes lot of time to search and identify messages out of thousands of php scripting words. It would be worth if there is a way to reply messages. Do you know how to reply messages?[/QUOTE]There's two potential factors involved:
1) Whether the client side (the message screen itself) can be "tricked" into showing the edit box.
2) Whether the server would accept a "send this message" request even if you don't have premium. It's likely that they would do some checks on the server and ignore the message, but you never know.
I suspect it's _technically_ possible to at least enable the message input box, but even if that works, there's only a small chance that it would accept any messages you send. Part of me would really like to fiddle around and see how much I could figure out, but like I said, I've got too much else to do.