Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=SouthsideIrish;3015581]I feel you are missing the point. It's not about how you carry your money. It's about not needing to have a conversation with a therapist about money before services are rendered. People start dropping 20 when they are supposed to be dropping 40 and you will be tipping before, like it or not.[/QUOTE]Not necessarily. They might just set a house price that doesn't include tipping so this whole idea of what is "standard" ends. In addition, you have more power with your wallet than you think. Despite the nonsense some guys post on here about relationships and having a connection with providers, these ladies are after one thing. The green. The ones causing the problems are guys paying ridiculous prices for a handjob.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;3015323]Bob, you are 100% right, he should have told her before the HJ that he was only going to tip her. 2 . Especially since he said that he had fun and roaming was allowed. Anybody that reads this thread knows that the standard tip for a HJ is. 4 . Pulling crap like this hurts everyone. How many times do you read reports on here from pissed of Mongers because they went to an AMP and they are laying on the table with full wood and the girl starts playing let's make a deal and she wants the tip up front. They want the tip up front because they don't want to get half the going rate for services rendered. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]Again, I would just like to state the on the flip we discussed tip, came to an agreement, and continued.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;3015573]Then next time you go to an AMP tell her before (not after) the massage that you want 1 hour, good service with roaming and a H / E but only have 20 for a tip.

Then report back the results. LOL.

AJ[/QUOTE]That's almost exactly what happened. So you can continue to create these imaginary scenarios in your head or read the posts. Also, when did I say the massage went an hour?

Anyways, I can reiterate: On the flip I touched her to let her know I was interested, she smiled and put up a 4, I said I only had 2 and she said next time more.

We negotiated and came to an agreement before proceeding. Please stop adding your own inferences and ask me more questions if you don't understand what all went down. You are adding things to the report that did not occur.

Let's see if I have this right: Jameson290 tips too little, so the women will start charging more or demanding tips beforehand. Eager little puppies on here tip too much, so women expect and charge more and still demand tips beforehand. Either way, they're charging more and demanding tips before. Sounds like a lose-lose situation for us, and lots of excuses being made for the women and used by the women. "The Scale" is a reference point, not some law delivered from a mountain on stone tablets by Moses. I know what the prices are, and use them exactly that way, as a reference. Which is why I NEVER tip before. If I get a jackhammer handjob or she's staring at the ceiling, she isn't getting $40. If there is an attempt at negotiating beforehand, I make it very clear I'll leave and I'll tip on the massage only, which might be $20, $10, or zero. Because if the massage sucked, and I'm tipping on that, then I'm tipping for what it's worth. I do not understand at all why it is so hard to comprehend that a tip is a gratuity given by a customer AFTER a service is provided, and based on the quality of the service. As I've said before, I do not tip a server before she serves my dinner and drinks. I wouldn't tip a valet before he brings my car back, either. What if he returns it with the radiator planted in the windshield? Would you feel good about tipping before he parked your vehicle? Boo effing hoo, Jameson290 tipped too little. Well, the guy before him maybe tipped too much, so it probably balances out. All it does and all it means is Jameson290 is a cheap dude, nothing more nothing less. He is not destroying civilization as we know it. I don't give a hint of a damn about the backstory of any of these women, any more than they care about mine. I'm the customer, I have the money, I am buying the service, and I control the transaction. That includes the tip, how much the tip is, and if there is a tip.

No I never tip before. If they ask for it before I say no I tip after, simple as that.

[QUOTE=SouthsideIrish;3015581]I feel you are missing the point. It's not about how you carry your money. It's about not needing to have a conversation with a therapist about money before services are rendered. People start dropping 20 when they are supposed to be dropping 40 and you will be tipping before, like it or not.[/QUOTE]

I will never understand why mongers get bullied into coughing up a tip before. The last time that happened to me, she threw a temper tantrum and she got ZERO tip, very simple, its game over.

[QUOTE=WhiteRookDown;3015658]Let's see if I have this right: Jameson290 tips too little, so the women will start charging more or demanding tips beforehand. Eager little puppies on here tip too much, so women expect and charge more and still demand tips beforehand. Either way, they're charging more and demanding tips before. Sounds like a lose-lose situation for us, and lots of excuses being made for the women and used by the women. "The Scale" is a reference point, not some law delivered from a mountain on stone tablets by Moses. I know what the prices are, and use them exactly that way, as a reference. Which is why I NEVER tip before. If I get a jackhammer handjob or she's staring at the ceiling, she isn't getting $40. If there is an attempt at negotiating beforehand, I make it very clear I'll leave and I'll tip on the massage only, which might be $20, $10, or zero. Because if the massage sucked, and I'm tipping on that, then I'm tipping for what it's worth. I do not understand at all why it is so hard to comprehend that a tip is a gratuity given by a customer AFTER a service is provided, and based on the quality of the service. As I've said before, I do not tip a server before she serves my dinner and drinks. I wouldn't tip a valet before he brings my car back, either. What if he returns it with the radiator planted in the windshield? Would you feel good about tipping before he parked your vehicle? Boo effing hoo, Jameson290 tipped too little. Well, the guy before him maybe tipped too much, so it probably balances out. All it does and all it means is Jameson290 is a cheap dude, nothing more nothing less. He is not destroying civilization as we know it. I don't give a hint of a damn about the backstory of any of these women, any more than they care about mine. I'm the customer, I have the money, I am buying the service, and I control the transaction. That includes the tip, how much the tip is, and if there is a tip.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jamie7;3011693]Ok guys, long time coming but I feel obligated to report since reading what you wrote has helped me so much.

I had my first good experience with a masseuse named Sara. She works at the Irving / Pulaski (the place that advertises 140 he tantra and 180 nuru) and is the MILF type blonde. Her pictures are off since she is a bit older (I'd say late 30's) but nevertheless she is still attractive. Banging body, pretty face, pretty good attitude. Reminded me of my ex-gf's mom from a couple years back.

Being the newbie that I am, I asked her if I would leave happy. (I was skeptical).

She replied saying that I would leave with nothing if I didn't stop asking questions. Haha.

Anyways, she stripped and I was delighted. As She began to massage me, I started to feel her booty. She put her tits in my face and I let a nipple slide in. The rest of the massage went on like this until the flip.

She oiled me up and I told her that I loved slow strokes and she was great about catering to my request. Our eyes were locked while she tugged and then she asked I liked my balls rubbed. Of course I do!

I had one hand on her tit and the other caresses her inner thigh. Before I know it, I was in her panties touching her clit. She smiled and started stroking faster. I told her to slow down again cause she was going to make me bust.

I played with her pussy until she started moaning. Hearing her sexy voice just did it for me. I couldn't hold back and sprayed everywhere. She cleaned me up with a towel and I was on my way.

I hagent seen her since. This place has a lot of hot girls but is a bit pricier. I might be back after I explore the scene a bit more.[/QUOTE]Been here twice. I think it's pricey too for what you get. Very attractive and a nice place in a nice area so maybe they are careful for what they do for initial visits. Any luck for any others who have gone a few more times? If so how much $$$ invested? Almost afraid to ask that last question.

[QUOTE=Jameson290;3015656]That's almost exactly what happened. So you can continue to create these imaginary scenarios in your head or read the posts. Also, when did I say the massage went an hour?

Anyways, I can reiterate: On the flip I touched her to let her know I was interested, she smiled and put up a 4, I said I only had 2 and she said next time more.

We negotiated and came to an agreement before proceeding. Please stop adding your own inferences and ask me more questions if you don't understand what all went down. You are adding things to the report that did not occur.[/QUOTE]In your original post you stated "allowed roaming" I would think of roaming as a little more than "touched".

Nowhere in your original post did you ever say "we negotiated an agreement before proceeding". You said "standard finish and my standard .2 tip". From that one could think that nothing was negotiated beforehand and that you tipped her after the standard finish. If you negotiated the tip before and she agreed to do it for that amount then great, no problem but you should have written that in your post.

Regardless of whether it was an hour or a half, I have had many girls ask for 40 and many members consider that to be the standard tip. I have always tipped 40 regardless of the time for good service, roaming and a h / e and the girls have always been happy, but that's just me.

AJ.

I apoloized to Jameson via PM and will do so here in public also. It is perfectly reasonable, in fact "honorable" to tell the girl, in advance, that the tip will be $20. He offered and she accepted. In fact, the girl started the negotiation by holding up 4 fingers. I don't think I understand the original post.

[QUOTE=Jameson290;3015656]That's almost exactly what happened. So you can continue to create these imaginary scenarios in your head or read the posts. Also, when did I say the massage went an hour?

Anyways, I can reiterate: On the flip I touched her to let her know I was interested, she smiled and put up a 4, I said I only had 2 and she said next time more.

We negotiated and came to an agreement before proceeding. Please stop adding your own inferences and ask me more questions if you don't understand what all went down. You are adding things to the report that did not occur.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3016132]I apoloized to Jameson via PM and will do so here in public also. It is perfectly reasonable, in fact "honorable" to tell the girl, in advance, that the tip will be $20. He offered and she accepted. In fact, the girl started the negotiation by holding up 4 fingers. I don't think I understand the original post.[/QUOTE]I hope we are all friends again. However, at the next meetup, you and Ron are taking care of the tip!

[QUOTE=BigDog16;3016143]I hope we are all friends again. However, at the next meetup, you and Ron are taking care of the tip![/QUOTE]You're talking about a meeting at Twin Peaks? I'm in as long as there's no Cub Game at Wrigley. And I don't have any scheduled play time with any providers.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;3016070]

Regardless of whether it was an hour or a half, I have had many girls ask for 40 and many members consider that to be the standard tip. I have always tipped 40 regardless of the time for good service, roaming and a h / e and the girls have always been happy, but that's just me.

AJ.[/QUOTE]Today I mixed it up a little. My feet were killing me from the weekend so I sought out a foot massage. Found one near me and offered $20 for 30 minutes. I thought that was a good deal (pretty new at the foot massage game). Didn't try anything but was getting a vibe. She wasn't attractive so I behaved. Get done and out to the front. The other girl asks me if I'm going to tip girl #1. I played dumb and asked how much is a good tip? She said they work for tips so anything is good. I asked is $5 a good tip? She said "Oh yes, very good. " So I reached in and pulled out a five. I was feeling kinda cheap but she was happy with it so who am I to argue.

Girl #2 (better looking) was being flirty. I asked her if she does massage. Yes, how long you want? I say half hour and I hand her $40, got a $5 discount for first time. Into a different room where I get ready and she comes in. Left me uncovered so I started some roaming. She said not yet I give you good massage first. At halftime she sees my excitement level is high so she grabs the oil bottle. 10 minutes later she brings in 3 hot towels and cleans me up. She leaves and I get dressed. To test the water I leave standard tip on the pillow. When she comes back in, she sees it and is smiling a mile wide. Pinches me on the ass and invites me to come back soon.

Point is she was perfectly happy with the standard. So was I.

All this discussion about tipping has me wondering about something I've had happen a couple of times that I call the Reverse Upsell. So, and I will add after protracted negotiations, we agree for a "Business Class" trip for $. 8. This "flight" goes on for awhile but I'm not getting anywhere and I tell the "flight attendant" that I think the trip will go much faster if I'm upgraded to 1st Class. So after a little persuading, I get upgraded to 1st class for price of a business class ticket. Full disclosure, I was in a new area (not Chicago) and it was my first visit to that particular establishment.

Question for the group: Considering the number of times I've had "flight attendants" put the upsell on me, was I wrong and / or was I cheating the flight attendant for trying to get the reverse upsell?

You did not cheat her. From what is written sounds like she agreed to it.

[QUOTE=LaneNarrows;3016859]All this discussion about tipping has me wondering about something I've had happen a couple of times that I call the Reverse Upsell. So, and I will add after protracted negotiations, we agree for a "Business Class" trip for $. 8. This "flight" goes on for awhile but I'm not getting anywhere and I tell the "flight attendant" that I think the trip will go much faster if I'm upgraded to 1st Class. So after a little persuading, I get upgraded to 1st class for price of a business class ticket. Full disclosure, I was in a new area (not Chicago) and it was my first visit to that particular establishment.

Question for the group: Considering the number of times I've had "flight attendants" put the upsell on me, was I wrong and / or was I cheating the flight attendant for trying to get the reverse upsell?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RonM;3016345]You're talking about a meeting at Twin Peaks? I'm in as long as there's no Cub Game at Wrigley. And I don't have any scheduled play time with any providers.[/QUOTE]Hi fellas. When is this so-called next meetup? I just moved to Chicago from NYC and I'm looking to get into some trouble. Also don't really know anyone here and wouldn't mind chatting with some like-minded people. Who doesn't like Twin Peaks?