Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Bob521;3015269]The point is not that he only tips $20. There's lots of times when $20 is reasonable tip. The point is he is knowlingly and delibrerately cheating the girl and then bragging about it on this forum. Plenty of guys here insist (rightfully) on rigourus standards for tipping. I think that tip-scale helps everybody, clients and therapists. Perhaps it would be equally clever to tell the girl before the massage that he only had $20?[/QUOTE]Again, she was well aware as we discussed tip on the flip.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3015269]The point is not that he only tips $20. There's lots of times when $20 is reasonable tip. The point is he is knowlingly and delibrerately cheating the girl and then bragging about it on this forum. Plenty of guys here insist (rightfully) on rigourus standards for tipping. I think that tip-scale helps everybody, clients and therapists. Perhaps it would be equally clever to tell the girl before the massage that he only had $20?[/QUOTE]My point was not bragging. That was not my goal. I always say I only have. 2 when we begin negotiating. Obviously, there is a segment of you that don't believe in the negotiation. I disagree with that point of view. We agreed on a price and then she basically said it was 1 time thing and next it would just be a massage if I didn't have more. I thought that was valuable information.

I did not knowingly and deliberately cheat the girl. She agreed to this arrangement. Everyone is jumping to conclusions and attacking rather than having a discussion and asking questions.

I was thinking about stopping in here when I come into town this week. I need to switch it up from the same old routine AMP. Has anyone been here lately? Is it worth while? Please reply or PM me. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Bob521;3015269]The point is not that he only tips $20. There's lots of times when $20 is reasonable tip. The point is he is knowlingly and delibrerately cheating the girl and then bragging about it on this forum. Plenty of guys here insist (rightfully) on rigourus standards for tipping. I think that tip-scale helps everybody, clients and therapists. Perhaps it would be equally clever to tell the girl before the massage that he only had $20?[/QUOTE]Bob, you are 100% right, he should have told her before the HJ that he was only going to tip her. 2 . Especially since he said that he had fun and roaming was allowed. Anybody that reads this thread knows that the standard tip for a HJ is. 4 . Pulling crap like this hurts everyone. How many times do you read reports on here from pissed of Mongers because they went to an AMP and they are laying on the table with full wood and the girl starts playing let's make a deal and she wants the tip up front. They want the tip up front because they don't want to get half the going rate for services rendered. SaintChuck.

Stopped by Belmont near the music venue today. I was helped by Tia, who doesn't have great English skills. She's a bit heavyset but with a pretty face. Massage was just okay but with lots of teasing, and a bit of roaming allowed. Heavy handed finish, I asked but nothing else available. This spot is always reliable though.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3015269]The point is not that he only tips $20. There's lots of times when $20 is reasonable tip. The point is he is knowlingly and delibrerately cheating the girl and then bragging about it on this forum. Plenty of guys here insist (rightfully) on rigourus standards for tipping. I think that tip-scale helps everybody, clients and therapists. Perhaps it would be equally clever to tell the girl before the massage that he only had $20?[/QUOTE]Plus he didn't say he only had $20, he said he pretends he only has a $20 when the girl didn't show any skin so he had more he just chose to not give it to the girl. This asshat has a seat in the clown car next to that other asshat pretend wannabe 'guy who swipes tip when girl turns her back or leaves the room cause you know its her fault that she didn't know I'm a thief' jerkoff.

Wired.

The guy in question has the right to do what he wants with his money. If the gal accepts 20 that is up to her and likewise to say "No that's not enough". I read guy bitching all the time that some guys over pay which makes everyone after that guy more likely to have to pay more too. The woman want as much as they can get and we try to pay as little as possible as we can to get what we want. That is Capitalism.

[QUOTE=Wirelessone;3015424]Plus he didn't say he only had $20, he said he pretends he only has a $20 when the girl didn't show any skin so he had more he just chose to not give it to the girl. This asshat has a seat in the clown car next to that other asshat pretend wannabe 'guy who swipes tip when girl turns her back or leaves the room cause you know its her fault that she didn't know I'm a thief' jerkoff.

Wired.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dazhiba;3015430]The guy in question has the right to do what he wants with his money. If the gal accepts 20 that is up to her and likewise to say "No that's not enough". I read guy bitching all the time that some guys over pay which makes everyone after that guy more likely to have to pay more too. The woman want as much as they can get and we try to pay as little as possible as we can to get what we want. That is Capitalism.[/QUOTE]Exactly. The price of something is not what someone is willing to charge. The price of something is what someone is willing to pay. That doesn't even address the issue about a "tip. " Scott Pippen is a shitty tipper. That doesn't mean restaurants change their pricing.

[QUOTE=Dazhiba;3015430]The guy in question has the right to do what he wants with his money. If the gal accepts 20 that is up to her and likewise to say "No that's not enough". I read guy bitching all the time that some guys over pay which makes everyone after that guy more likely to have to pay more too. The woman want as much as they can get and we try to pay as little as possible as we can to get what we want. That is Capitalism.[/QUOTE]The girl accepted the twenty not because she was satisfied with the twenty. She accepted it because the cheap fuck claimed that's all he had. The analysis if this isn't complicated at all. Some guys are cheap assholes and treat providers like dirt. Pretty simple and straightforward.

[QUOTE=ScootinSteve;3015312]I was thinking about stopping in here when I come into town this week. I need to switch it up from the same old routine AMP. Has anyone been here lately? Is it worth while? Please reply or PM me. Thanks![/QUOTE]I have been there 3 times. I had a blast every single time. They love to tease. But, for me. Just a table bathe and a pretty good massage. I never really pushed the issue.

I really want to see May. She is gorgeous. The only I have not seen there.

[QUOTE=Dazhiba;3015430]The guy in question has the right to do what he wants with his money. If the gal accepts 20 that is up to her and likewise to say "No that's not enough". I read guy bitching all the time that some guys over pay which makes everyone after that guy more likely to have to pay more too. The woman want as much as they can get and we try to pay as little as possible as we can to get what we want. That is Capitalism.[/QUOTE]People have the right to be cheap asses but that doesn't make it right. Everyone knows standard service pricing. When people cheap out its going to make me have to reach for my wallet with a hard on. I don't like reaching for my wallet with a hard on.

If you don't want to tip at a restaurant then order it for pick up. If you don't want to pay 40 for standard, then stay home and jerk yourself off.

[QUOTE=Jameson290;3014412][URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-beautiful-asian-girls-qing-massage-ultimate-relaxation/19217485[/URL]

Checked out Qing Spa earlier since I was in the area. Not as good as Belmont Spa but it's probably the 2nd best I've visited in the area. The girl was attractive especially compared to the other AMPs I've visited. I was there on the earlier side so they might not have had their front line out yet.

The massage was ok but she was fun and allowed roaming. I always wait to the flip to roam but then we had fun. Standard finish and my standard. 2 tip. I always pretend like that's all I have if they won't show any skin and she wouldn't. She said I'd need more next time.

All in all it was a good experience for the price and convenience. If I'm around there again however I'll just make the extra 10 min drive to Belmont. Just an all around better experience.[/QUOTE]I would typically stay out of these "discussions" but I'll throw some "advice" to Jameson, from a senior to a newbie.

Jameson,

Congrats on getting a wonderful experience on the cheap. The economy for work is still poor and I'm sure that the 20 dollars was needed. I would encourage you going forward to invest the extra twenty dollars on each visit. When you tip 20 and they feel ripped off, it's going to be hard to get good service again. I'm sure you can pop over there and they'll treat you well, but after awhile, they'll recognize you and you'll find the service to go downhill.

The number of good spas in Chicago are few. There are a ton more in SF, Philly, NY, Dallas. The only person you hurt is yourself as you start to get crappier and crappier service from these places.

Also, I've found that my best exploits and ATFs are typically UTRs that don't post on BP and other sites. I typically get these contact deets from other seniors. I got that because I built a good reputation of being kind to their referrals without breaking "standard" pricing. Like some who have already stated, I will be sure to not respond to your messages.

Lastly, there are girls who read and advertise on this board. For example, the legendary Tara of Madison. To contact her, you have to post on their board that you'd like to see her, she reads all of your posts and then decides if you're a shithead or not.

I wouldn't think of the extra 20 dollars going forward as wasting money, I would think of it as investing in building a good relationship with you favorite spa.

Best,

NC.

I don't bring my wallet in and I don't reach in my pocket for the tip before hand. They get the tip after.

[QUOTE=SouthsideIrish;3015554]People have the right to be cheap asses but that doesn't make it right. Everyone knows standard service pricing. When people cheap out its going to make me have to reach for my wallet with a hard on. I don't like reaching for my wallet with a hard on.

If you don't want to tip at a restaurant then order it for pick up. If you don't want to pay 40 for standard, then stay home and jerk yourself off.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dazhiba;3015430]The guy in question has the right to do what he wants with his money. If the gal accepts 20 that is up to her and likewise to say "No that's not enough". I read guy bitching all the time that some guys over pay which makes everyone after that guy more likely to have to pay more too. The woman want as much as they can get and we try to pay as little as possible as we can to get what we want. That is Capitalism.[/QUOTE]Then next time you go to an AMP tell her before (not after) the massage that you want 1 hour, good service with roaming and a H / E but only have 20 for a tip.

Then report back the results. LOL.

AJ

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3015572]I don't bring my wallet in and I don't reach in my pocket for the tip before hand. They get the tip after.[/QUOTE]I feel you are missing the point. It's not about how you carry your money. It's about not needing to have a conversation with a therapist about money before services are rendered. People start dropping 20 when they are supposed to be dropping 40 and you will be tipping before, like it or not.