Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=TapThat;6665951]Now if she was to go the cops, would she essentially be admittedly turning herself in as a prostitute?

For the most part it is a she said he said for any acts that took place.[/QUOTE]Depends on.

1) how explicit and smart he was in their texting.

2) was she crazy enough to record calls that ended up being open to interpretation.

3) and who from the army of whitenight cunts, many of who are also male, happen to get involved from law enforcement. They just love to crucify customers and their wallets for 'trafficking' these boss bitches / damsels in distress.

Anyone with a decent amount of time in the game knows things can flip on a dime from 'normal I'm not like others' to bat shit crazy because you had to legit change plans or something seemed off and backed out of a meet. From threats of making up false assault charges, going to LEO, or 'people they know' with your phone number, or lying about seeing your license plate or being able to describe your vehicle. Which is to say nothing of the openings you knuckleheads that do outcall and invite them to your homes are exposing yourselves to.

All a smart monger can do is operate on the assumption that pussy has always been, and always will be, a pain in the ass whether you're renting or buying it. And minimize your rental risks by following these 4 cardinal rules.

1) Share no real personally identifiable info.

2) Use burner phone payed for with cash.

3) pay for services in cash.

4) and park a bit further away from where they ask you to park.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;6666150]Depends on.

1) how explicit and smart he was in their texting.

2) was she crazy enough to record calls that ended up being open to interpretation.

3) and who from the army of whitenight cunts, many of who are also male, happen to get involved from law enforcement. They just love to crucify customers and their wallets for 'trafficking' these boss bitches / damsels in distress.

Anyone with a decent amount of time in the game knows things can flip on a dime from 'normal I'm not like others' to bat shit crazy because you had to legit change plans or something seemed off and backed out of a meet. From threats of making up false assault charges, going to LEO, or 'people they know' with your phone number, or lying about seeing your license plate or being able to describe your vehicle. Which is to say nothing of the openings you knuckleheads that do outcall and invite them to your homes are exposing yourselves to.

All a smart monger can do is operate on the assumption that pussy has always been, and always will be, a pain in the ass whether you're renting or buying it. And minimize your rental risks by following these 4 cardinal rules.

1) Share no real personally identifiable info.

2) Use burner phone payed for with cash.

3) pay for services in cash.

4) and park a bit further away from where they ask you to park.[/QUOTE]A monger can only be charged with solicitation if they are caught in the act or the police witness money changing hands.

The most they will do with text messages or the word of a prostitute is talk to you. But they are to busy to do that.

Watch less TV.

[QUOTE=RufusFirefly;6666629]A monger can only be charged with solicitation if they are caught in the act or the police witness money changing hands.

The most they will do with text messages or the word of a prostitute is talk to you. But they are to busy to do that.

Watch less TV.[/QUOTE]My main point was these ladies can blackmail and accuse you of things a helluva lot worse than solicitation related BS when they know who you really are. The kinds of accusations with enough weight that LEO will make some special time for you. And maybe it isn't even her, but some other evil MFer in her social circle that could help it stick a bit better. Why open yourself up to even the slim possibility of that?

[QUOTE=RufusFirefly;6666629]A monger can only be charged with solicitation if they are caught in the act or the police witness money changing hands.

The most they will do with text messages or the word of a prostitute is talk to you. But they are to busy to do that.

Watch less TV.[/QUOTE]That's absolutely incorrect. In Ohio you can be charged with solicitation if you just discuss money for sex.

[URL]https://www.suhrelaw.com/blog/can-you-go-to-jail-for-soliciting-a-prostitute-in-ohio/[/URL]

[QUOTE=PearishBA;6667472]My main point was these ladies can blackmail and accuse you of things a helluva lot worse than solicitation related BS when they know who you really are. The kinds of accusations with enough weight that LEO will make some special time for you. And maybe it isn't even her, but some other evil MFer in her social circle that could help it stick a bit better. Why open yourself up to even the slim possibility of that?[/QUOTE]I will agree with that these girls can use you information to blackmail you because it happened to me. That is why I do not give any information about myself.

Could or would they arrest her.

She would have admitted she is having sex for money?

[QUOTE=hooter12;6668026]that's absolutely incorrect. In ohio you can be charged with solicitation if you just discuss money for sex.

[url]https://www.suhrelaw.com/blog/can-you-go-to-jail-for-soliciting-a-prostitute-in-ohio/[/url][/QUOTE]"can you go to jail for soliciting a prostate in ohio?

LOL.

The only thing permanent is change. Prices have gone up? Yes. Have prices of everything gone up? Yes. If you are priced out of the hobby take a bow and be glad you lasted as long as possible. If you have the money and want to * and complain about pricing get more money or buy what you can afford. Is it becoming harder to find a provider that actually provides what you want for the money? No. But yes if you let an agency (EE or Buddha ect ect.) pick the pussy for you. Now that those avenues of approach are either deposit oriented or fake avoid them. People come on here and * and complain about prices. Pony up or get the fuck out. When you get the fuck out just go away. If you aren't ready to put in the research and deal with the bad communication and bad service get the fuck out. The glory days of the business aren't over they have passed you up. The new glory day is the next day a hooker is on your cock.

[QUOTE=BigGusDickUs55;6668402]The only thing permanent is change. Prices have gone up? Yes. Have prices of everything gone up? Yes. If you are priced out of the hobby take a bow and be glad you lasted as long as possible. If you have the money and want to * and complain about pricing get more money or buy what you can afford. Is it becoming harder to find a provider that actually provides what you want for the money? No. But yes if you let an agency (EE or Buddha ect ect.) pick the pussy for you. Now that those avenues of approach are either deposit oriented or fake avoid them. People come on here and * and complain about prices. Pony up or get the fuck out. When you get the fuck out just go away. If you aren't ready to put in the research and deal with the bad communication and bad service get the fuck out. The glory days of the business aren't over they have passed you up. The new glory day is the next day a hooker is on your cock.[/QUOTE]Glad someone finally put it into perspective. I totally agree. I still have my go to providers a staying in the game. I also do my research, read the forum a make my own decision on who I want to see. Gas is no longer $2.50 a gal. Good Pussy is no longer $150 hr. I still drive an I still pay the price for pussy. Thank BigGus for their like it is.

[QUOTE=BigGusDickUs55;6668402]The only thing permanent is change. Prices have gone up? Yes. Have prices of everything gone up? Yes. If you are priced out of the hobby take a bow and be glad you lasted as long as possible. If you have the money and want to * and complain about pricing get more money or buy what you can afford. Is it becoming harder to find a provider that actually provides what you want for the money? No. But yes if you let an agency (EE or Buddha ect ect.) pick the pussy for you. Now that those avenues of approach are either deposit oriented or fake avoid them. People come on here and * and complain about prices. Pony up or get the fuck out. When you get the fuck out just go away. If you aren't ready to put in the research and deal with the bad communication and bad service get the fuck out. The glory days of the business aren't over they have passed you up. The new glory day is the next day a hooker is on your cock.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mr. Moneybags. I distinctly remember one of your posts telling people to not tell other what's they can / can't do. Ah, there it is.

[QUOTE=BigGusDickUs55;5796725]If you don't like deposits don't visit a provider who requires a deposit. If you want to give a deposit it's your money. Telling grown men what to do is not the point of this forum. Announcing that a provider is coming to Lou and telling everyone don't pay a deposit to see her is another thing entirely.[/QUOTE]Why don't you have a cup of your own advice. This is the "Rants, Raves" section for a reason. And I agree with the boys. This market is upside down. COMPLETELY. And needs to collapse. You've got girls that are gorgeous charging way high, always have, that's fine. They were always untouchable. Nobody is really complaining about that per se. But now the mids (where I reside) and lower are 100-200% up. Way out of league with your "everything has gone up". Inflation is anywhere from 7-40% by my best non certified economical studies.

Losing guys like us will leave the the high ends and your QV $80 girls and when that happens, they'll fill that gap and you'll be bitching.

Toodles.

[QUOTE=BigGusDickUs55;6668402]The only thing permanent is change. Prices have gone up? Yes. Have prices of everything gone up? Yes. If you are priced out of the hobby take a bow and be glad you lasted as long as possible. If you have the money and want to * and complain about pricing get more money or buy what you can afford. Is it becoming harder to find a provider that actually provides what you want for the money? No. But yes if you let an agency (EE or Buddha ect ect.) pick the pussy for you. Now that those avenues of approach are either deposit oriented or fake avoid them. People come on here and * and complain about prices. Pony up or get the fuck out. When you get the fuck out just go away. If you aren't ready to put in the research and deal with the bad communication and bad service get the fuck out. The glory days of the business aren't over they have passed you up. The new glory day is the next day a hooker is on your cock.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better yes there are still a few that take care of regulars I was in Parkersburg last week my regular said she was broke I said all I have is $100 for outcall I picked her up and dropped her off she asked me to stop at Kroger which I did she spent all the money on food I slipped her a $20 sometimes there might be life out there.

[QUOTE=BigGusDickUs55;6668402]The only thing permanent is change. Prices have gone up? Yes. Have prices of everything gone up? Yes. If you are priced out of the hobby take a bow and be glad you lasted as long as possible. If you have the money and want to * and complain about pricing get more money or buy what you can afford. Is it becoming harder to find a provider that actually provides what you want for the money? No. But yes if you let an agency (EE or Buddha ect ect.) pick the pussy for you. Now that those avenues of approach are either deposit oriented or fake avoid them. People come on here and * and complain about prices. Pony up or get the fuck out. When you get the fuck out just go away. If you aren't ready to put in the research and deal with the bad communication and bad service get the fuck out. The glory days of the business aren't over they have passed you up. The new glory day is the next day a hooker is on your cock.[/QUOTE]Buddha hasn't been around for at least 10 years, and EE has been gone for at least two years. So I'm not sure how these references are relevant in late 2023.

As for the broader attempt to silence complaints about pricing: This is the "rants and raves" section of a consumer information exchange site.

There is nothing wrong with saying, "Hey guys, I think the quality as well as the price is out of whack nowadays. Am I the only one?

That's the real issue. If this was simply a matter of prices going up (proportionally) with inflation, I don't think there would be many complaints. We all know that $200 college coeds (a reality in 2011) probably aren't coming back.

But the issue nowadays is horrible quality plus exorbitant prices.

I can "afford" to spend $500 on an obese or over-the-hill provider whom I wouldn't have wanted under any circumstances in 2018. But why would I do that?

Encouraging others to sit out of the market is a viable strategy. Boycotts, even informal ones, work. Look at what happened recently with Bud Lite.

And if the phones stop ringing, those prices might come down. That's the way it works with everything else. Basic economics.

[QUOTE=SmokeyGringo;6668455]

This market is upside down. COMPLETELY. And needs to collapse. You've got girls that are gorgeous charging way high, always have, that's fine. They were always untouchable. Nobody is really complaining about that per se. But now the mids (where I reside) and lower are 100-200% up. Way out of league with your "everything has gone up". Inflation is anywhere from 7-40% by my best non certified economical studies.

[/QUOTE]Right. Carmen, who has been around since long before the pandemic, used to charge $300 per hour, incall or outcall. She's now insisting on hotel incalls only, and she wants $800:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/carmen-companion777[/URL]

The very acceptable (but by no means exceptional) Destiny wants $600. She would have been a $300 girl (max) before the pandemic.

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/destiny-808[/URL]

That's not inflation. That's price gouging. And as Smoky Gringo said, we should make it collapse by withholding our money.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;6669168]Right. Carmen, who has been around since long before the pandemic, used to charge $300 per hour, incall or outcall. She's now insisting on hotel incalls only, and she wants $800:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/carmen-companion777[/URL]

The very acceptable (but by no means exceptional) Destiny wants $600. She would have been a $300 girl (max) before the pandemic.

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/destiny-808[/URL]

That's not inflation. That's price gouging. And as Smoky Gringo said, we should make it collapse by withholding our money.[/QUOTE]Carmen needs to be charged with vandalism for the big thigh tat. And sentenced to a lesbian prison starring me as the conversion therapy warden.

And the way Destiny is sticking her tongue out with the teddy bear. I'd say full blown lunatic more than 50% likely to stab you in the shower during cleanup.

[QUOTE=BigGusDickUs55;6668402]The only thing permanent is change. Prices have gone up? Yes. Have prices of everything gone up? Yes. If you are priced out of the hobby take a bow and be glad you lasted as long as possible. If you have the money and want to * and complain about pricing get more money or buy what you can afford. Is it becoming harder to find a provider that actually provides what you want for the money? No. But yes if you let an agency (EE or Buddha ect ect.) pick the pussy for you. Now that those avenues of approach are either deposit oriented or fake avoid them. People come on here and * and complain about prices. Pony up or get the fuck out. When you get the fuck out just go away. If you aren't ready to put in the research and deal with the bad communication and bad service get the fuck out. The glory days of the business aren't over they have passed you up. The new glory day is the next day a hooker is on your cock.[/QUOTE]I have been saying this for awhile. The prices have gone up and the services has gone down. I seldom see a lady anymore because of the prices. A decent to good looking girl is usually charges more than I want to pay. Ladies have too many rules. The two big ones are no kissing and covered anything. I am not paying a drug addict because they are extremely unpredictable. To many unreliable ladies and scams and robberies.

I have decided to concentrate on going to AMPs. I might only get a HJ but I can make an appointment or just show up. I get a relaxing one hour massage and a nut for $. 20 to $$. 20.

I hold the money so I have all the power.