Condoms are not completely safe.
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1829409]Brothers,
I think you all are missing the point, but maybe I'm the one who's not getting it. It is not only the STD one has to worry about, it is the possibility of passing it along to your wife / SO, and what I imagine will be the conversation that starts the End Of The World!
Whether one can live a reasonable life with AIDS or not, or how easy the treatment for these other scary diseases is, how do you tell your wife / children / inlaws / friends / colleagues how you got it? And no one believes it comes from toilet seats, Nando!
In the end, this may just be one of those topics, like politics or religion, where it is best to let things drop. I will continue to play it safe, and I hope never to read a post like Joe's on this thread ever again. Ask him if he would have done things differently and I bet the answer will be a resounding "yes"!
Peace,
Scott[/QUOTE]Guys. If you're worried about the risks. Then don't play the game.
Yes condoms reduce the risk of many things, but they aren't 100% effective against HSV-1/2, HPV, and molluscum (not just for kids) etc. If you love DATY or BBBJ, then other STD's come into play as well.
If you're worried about a SO or a spouse, then there is no 100% way to keep them safe. Period. You can do risk management, and using condoms is a significant part of that plan. However, don't think just because you're using condoms your not taking risks.
Also- Plan B is essentially a 'Hail Mary'. Plan B's efficacy is 87. Compare that to withdrawal used effectively at 96% and condoms at 98% and you'll see what I mean. Over the years, I've only had to girl friends (before I was married) have to use Plan B. The first was an incredibly hot Korean MILF in LA who wouldn't agree to a condom. She didn't tell me until after I came that she wasn't on BC. The lesson I learned that night was that you always have the "talk" before going bare.
The talk involves two very important subjects. One. Are you on BC. Two. If you become pregnant will you have an abortion. The answers help me do risk management even though I use condoms.
A percentage I can live with
I'll take 98% effective over zero any day! As has been pointed out, it's not just what [I]you[/I] do, but what, and who, your baby's been doing in her spare time that comes into play.
Of course there's no such thing as 100% certainty in life, but I like my odds better than BB by a mile! Plus, I truly wonder if those "faithful" babies really are. I can think of four brothers right off the bat who discovered their SBs were "monogamous" with several other guys as well, and one was going bare with all of them!
To each his own, however. I'll continue to play with a helmet on. Like ChiGuy, I find the slight loss of sensation helps me to last like a porn star. Well, that and a little help from my blue friend!
Peace,
Scott
Goes back to the original question
[QUOTE=Secret2; 1830852]I had this girl respond to my CL ad and she says that the average girl is receiving $3k a month. I googled it and sure enough SA. Com says the SB on that site received that amount. I'm curious since many of you are using SA. Do you spend that much per month?
Just curious[/QUOTE]Amateurs or Not? I think some of the girls probably do bring in that much per month-just not all from one SD. I have been thinking of this a lot lately. I have encountered several girls that are surely UTR and using SA as a more low key place to troll for clients than BP. I have seen one that freely admits having several SD's. I've had her over for a couple of booty calls and she is content to sit and drink a glass of wine and chat for as long as I want before moving on to the bedroom, so in that respect not pro behavior, but from things she says I gather this is her main means of support. I would not classify this as a real SB relationship, but somewhere in between. My current fav on the other hand, has a full time job and I'm as sure as I can be without stalking her that she is exclusive to me. We really have more of a dating relationship, and went away for the weekend last week. I have had her and her daughter over to my house. Certainly not a pro, but also completely expects me to provide for her to some extent. On HG's scale a few days ago the first girl would be a 6 and the second an 8. I think what we are mostly looking for is the first timer, who has never accepted "gifts" before for her favors. I don't think they are quite as rare as unicorns, but definitely an elusive creature. I would say that the girl who responded to the CL ad above has for sure been to this rodeo before!
That could be the average.
[QUOTE=Secret2; 1830852]I had this girl respond to my CL ad and she says that the average girl is receiving $3k a month. I googled it and sure enough SA. Com says the SB on that site received that amount. I'm curious since many of you are using SA. Do you spend that much per month?
Any of you dating African-American 26 yo 5'10 138lbs single, grad-student / model from the DC area? I know her real name.
Just curious[/QUOTE]A couple of months ago I did a false experiment to find out more about the approaches some guys were using and the like. I kind of wanted to see if most guys had game or were dipstciks. So one of my Sb's was departing as school was ending for her. She let me use her pic. She is a solid 9+. Very good looking blonde / blue eyes / slim / kind of busty / good looking face. I used her pic and I wrote the profile. Just to see what would come back.
So How does this relate to the average? There were three straight up offers before any meeting that were in excess of $100K per year. LOL yeah, I'm not shitting you. Many others were in the 2-3K per month range. So I could see the average being 3k maybe. But the majority of gals are going to be getting 800-1200 I'd bet.
By the way, reading these messages that came in. I was also so excited to see how stupid most of the competition was for me. I understand now why a lot of woman think men are dumb. No creativity, no imagination, no effort, no game. The typical email back was 2-3 lines and would say something like "let me take you out to dinner then w'ell go back to my hotel room and have fun. I'll give you 2K a month and we do this 1x-2x per week. Text me Bill"
With age comes experience, I guess!
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1832207]Scott.
Did I hear that right? You spend a total of 1. 2k a month for all your babies? Not each?
Well Sir, your game is unbeatable.[/QUOTE]Smoke,
Thanks for the compliment!
That's right, average monthly total for all babies. Some months more, some less, but that is the average. I don't see each baby every week, though, but I strive to treat them all with kindness and respect, and never like it's a business transaction.
I listen to things they tell me, text them in the interim, tell them they are beautiful and special, and try to give them as many orgasms as they can handle! I take them to nice restaurants, buy them flowers, clothes or groceries; take them to museums and concerts, sailing or make them picnics. In short, I treat them in a way that none of the douche-bag guys their own age do, or even come close to doing.
I put the sugar in a funny card with a short note of appreciation, or in a book I bought them that we might have been talking about, but never on the bedside table lol! In the best relationships I have had, after a while the sugar becomes an afterthought in a way. While I always give it, it is often a few days or a week after an FC visit, or sometimes in advance of one. I believe it all comes down to how you treat your babies. Treat them well, in more ways than sugar, and it will come back to you a hundred-fold.
For more excellent ideas, scroll back and take a look at Tigg's MO. He and I share a very similar outlook, one proven to work.
Scott