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Gentlemen.
Tis been sometime since my last posting, but after coming out of a blah relationship I decided to partake in SC's coconut oil massage. It was easy to set up an appointment with the lovely lady SC. Her massage with the coconut oil is a must gentlemen. I had set up a 2hr appointment and was well worth it. I felt I was with an longtime friend after the ice was broken, SC is a sweet lady, and gives a very soothing massage and more.
Thanks M for the great massage and company!
[QUOTE=Alexanderd249;1166419]Has anyone been with shay_shay23? In am traveling up to Indiana this weekend. I have found some posts on the internet that she has worked with LE. Has anyone seen her lately?[/QUOTE]There is a post (#4079) in this thread on the first page with a recent review.
I feel for you brother. I think I would be planning some revenge, even though that always seems to backfire and make the problem worse. Some things I just can't let go, and this is one of them.
[QUOTE=Chuchurocket; 1165505]I have been in this hobby for a number of years. My first experience was not a very pleasant one. The contents of the events as they unfolded during my first experience had been mapped in my neural circuits. I was quite aware of the behavioral patterns that should serve as a warning sign thanks in large part to my first experience.
I had recognized similar behavioral patterns with alexisann quite early on in our conversation. A common theme throughout our conversation was how desperately she needed to pay her rent. At the start of our conversation she said that meeting me halfway would not be a problem. Her suggestion was for me to start driving south and she would drive north and we would meet in the middle. To find out where the middle was exactly she requested my address. At this point I became very hesitant because she displayed a similar behavior pattern as the first girl I ever met with. In this hobby one should always be aware of indecisiveness and its cognate, desperation.
She decided that we could at a location that was actually north of me. I thought that would work quite nicely because it was around 2:30 am. Leading up to that decision being made I suggested we meet some other time. I told her that it would be more convenient to meet at a later date because I wanted two hours but I was ninety dollars short of the normal fee. She said it would not be a problem and we should really meet because she needed to pay her rent. In my short trip to the hotel I received an inordinate amount of text messages. She also requested what kind of car I drove, which I believe is typical, and also a picture of myself.
She arrives with her driver parked somewhere that is not within my visual field. She walks over to my car and requested money to pay for the room. I made sure that I was not paying for the room because I requested incall and have always done so. She smelled like alcohol, which is just an observation. She assures me that she was just going inside to get the key and I could watch or come with her. I stay in the car and wait for her to return. She gives me the key and a business card with the room number on it. At this point she says her driver needs the money up front because she has been ripped off before. Obviously I had a huge problem with this and I made this known but she assured me that she was not the type of person to rip people off. She said the driver was her ex-husband and I asked if he knew what she does. She stated that he thinks she just gives dances. She proffered her pinky so she could swear that I could wait in the room or wait in my car and she would be right back. She said she does that with her kids all the time. While hesitant I reached into my pocket and gave her the money I just took out of the bank.
A few minutes later I get a text asking why I did not give the amount agreed upon. I had stopped at the bank for additional funds and placed the money in my jacket to supplement the money I had brought from home in my jeans pocket. I texted her back saying that it was an honest mistake and that she could come back and get the additional money. I was informed that her driver did not trust me and I tried to pull one over on her. It was obvious to her that I should have seen how nervous she was. I was highly perturbed by the whole situation although it was evident that they were not confused because they had already taken off. In a matter of moments her demeanor sharply changed as she was sending texts about how this should be a lesson to me and that I could come back when I had the full donation. She did invite me back to her incall room that she already had but that made no sense to me. She originally said she was 35 minutes from my address but later she said her incall was in a location that would be at most 20 minutes away and not going a mile over the speed limit. I had already paid for services that were not provided and I was not about to follow.
About two hours later her attitude changed again. She stated that she wanted to me and that we would definitely hook up the next day. She then sent me a picture of her, one that was already on e. Com. She was also nice enough to send me a picture of her husband to show me what kind of guy she likes. Earlier the same man had been her ex-husband. I never paid a second thought to hooking up the next day because I knew quite simply that I had been had. I do not bring emotions into any debate with me because once that is done the argument is lost. Therefore, I do not debate with others who are emotional. The proof of this incident is contained on my phone that through the wonders of smart phone technology can be uploaded for anyone to objectively critique. Penn and Teller have always done a wonderful job in calling bullshit so I thought I would give it the old college try. [/QUOTE]
Separate what really happened from all the extraneous details and this thing looks totally different.
Chuchurocket is an experienced hobbyist who left home with part of the money in his jeans pocket and stopped on the way to get more money from an ATM machine which he put in his jacket pocket.
He was still $90 short which he told her he would be and she okayed because she was desperate to get her rent paid.
They met in the hotel parking lot. Alexisann arrived by driver. She walked to his car and he gave her the money for the room as she requested. Although unplanned it happens the girl needs the room money fronted. Some guys do it and some don't. It's a choice.
She returned to his car and gave him the key card and a business card with the room number on it. She asked that the driver hold the donation while they were inside because of past problems with others. Maybe part of this was she knew he was going to be $90 short anyway. No sense taking any chances on the rest of it.
He was reluctant, but gave it to her, but he gave her only the money from one pocket or the other so she was inadvertently shorted more than the $90 she was expecting. She took the money to her driver. What happened next was by text from the driver's car.
She texted complaining she was shorted. He tried to explain it was an honest mistake, and no doubt it was, but her demeanor sharply changed. She knew to expect his $90 problem but now there was a second problem, a pocket problem.
She and the driver left. She told him this was a good lesson for him, but offered to see him the next day when he had the rest of the donation.
While I probably would not have thought to do this myself and I don't fault Chuchurocket for not doing this given the drama going on at the time, but he never went to the room to verify the key card worked a real door. That would have made clear in spades her side of this.
If she really got the room with the first money he gave her she was going through with it. She knew $90 wasn't coming, but now there's more shortage due to the second money. While his mistake is understandable from his point of view it looks totally different not from hers. We all know a short envelop is a serious baddy. That's why we count the money about 10 times to make sure.
If that key card really worked nobody should blame her for leaving. Nobody should expect her to go behind closed doors once he put himself in bad light. He makes clear he was spooked. She was too.
Cudos to her for giving him the chance to see her the next day by paying the shortage. He should have taken advantage of her offer.
This situation shows what happens when people get surprised. He was surprised by being asked to front the room. She expected a $90 shortage and saw a larger one. All trust was gone at that point.
If that key card really worked I would take Chuchurocket's total experience as a positive review for Alexisann. But I would want Alexisann to explain how it was she needed the cash for the room and could get it without a credit card as security.
Golfcart,
You continue to impress me with your with and wisdom of human nature! A very astute observation.
D.
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1166968]Separate what really happened from all the extraneous details and this thing looks totally different.
Chuchurocket is an experienced hobbyist who left home with part of the money in his jeans pocket and stopped on the way to get more money from an ATM machine which he put in his jacket pocket.
He was still $90 short which he told her he would be and she okayed because she was desperate to get her rent paid.
They met in the hotel parking lot. Alexisann arrived by driver. She walked to his car and he gave her the money for the room as she requested. Although unplanned it happens the girl needs the room money fronted. Some guys do it and some don't. It's a choice.
She returned to his car and gave him the key card and a business card with the room number on it. She asked that the driver hold the donation while they were inside because of past problems with others. Maybe part of this was she knew he was going to be $90 short anyway. No sense taking any chances on the rest of it.
He was reluctant, but gave it to her, but he gave her only the money from one pocket or the other so she was inadvertently shorted more than the $90 she was expecting. She took the money to her driver. What happened next was by text from the driver's car.
She texted complaining she was shorted. He tried to explain it was an honest mistake, and no doubt it was, but her demeanor sharply changed. She knew to expect his $90 problem but now there was a second problem, a pocket problem.
She and the driver left. She told him this was a good lesson for him, but offered to see him the next day when he had the rest of the donation.
While I probably would not have thought to do this myself and I don't fault Chuchurocket for not doing this given the drama going on at the time, but he never went to the room to verify the key card worked a real door. That would have made clear in spades her side of this.
If she really got the room with the first money he gave her she was going through with it. She knew $90 wasn't coming, but now there's more shortage due to the second money. While his mistake is understandable from his point of view it looks totally different not from hers. We all know a short envelop is a serious baddy. That's why we count the money about 10 times to make sure.
If that key card really worked nobody should blame her for leaving. Nobody should expect her to go behind closed doors once he put himself in bad light. He makes clear he was spooked. She was too.
Cudos to her for giving him the chance to see her the next day by paying the shortage. He should have taken advantage of her offer.
This situation shows what happens when people get surprised. He was surprised by being asked to front the room. She expected a $90 shortage and saw a larger one. All trust was gone at that point.
If that key card really worked I would take Chuchurocket's total experience as a positive review for Alexisann. But I would want Alexisann to explain how it was she needed the cash for the room and could get it without a credit card as security. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Golfcart;1166968]...She asked that the driver hold the donation while they were inside because of past problems with others. [/QUOTE]First, the original telling is hazy. I was left with the impression that she left with his partial donation, which is theft, and for which there is no excuse short of running for your life. If, instead, the "lesson" was the price of the room, then it would seem to be as much a warning about avoiding fronting alexisann money as it is about the perils of presuming to short a provider.
Second, let's talk about that "past problems with others" routine, the most overworked excuse in the hobby, on both sides, unless it's "I heard an internet rumor she was working with LE". Yes, short envelopes are a problem, but not one which comes wholly unexpected or is aimed specifically at you. (This is reminiscent of hobbyists who create a foolproof system to deal with the possibility that the magazine model in the ad they answered may not be the girl who answers the doorbell. The system, somehow, never requires them to avoid being foolish enough to answer the ad in the first place, thus solving a problem other people don't even have.)
You respond to a problem with a solution. You have a system. Okay, then you're obliged to let the system work. Having demanded the money up front, when a problem occurs you owe the hobbyist the benefit of the doubt, because now he didn't leave you a short envelope. He left you a short amount of money to *count. There was no possibility he was trying to get over on you, *because your system prevented that* Under the circumstances, reacting in anger is a tell; Chuchurocket was *entitled* to the assumption that any mistake was unintentional.
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1166968]Separate what really happened from all the extraneous details and this thing looks totally different.
Chuchurocket is an experienced hobbyist who left home with part of the money in his jeans pocket and stopped on the way to get more money from an ATM machine which he put in his jacket pocket.
He was still $90 short which he told her he would be and she okayed because she was desperate to get her rent paid.
They met in the hotel parking lot. Alexisann arrived by driver. She walked to his car and he gave her the money for the room as she requested. Although unplanned it happens the girl needs the room money fronted. Some guys do it and some don't. It's a choice.
She returned to his car and gave him the key card and a business card with the room number on it. She asked that the driver hold the donation while they were inside because of past problems with others. Maybe part of this was she knew he was going to be $90 short anyway. No sense taking any chances on the rest of it.
He was reluctant, but gave it to her, but he gave her only the money from one pocket or the other so she was inadvertently shorted more than the $90 she was expecting. She took the money to her driver. What happened next was by text from the driver's car.
She texted complaining she was shorted. He tried to explain it was an honest mistake, and no doubt it was, but her demeanor sharply changed. She knew to expect his $90 problem but now there was a second problem, a pocket problem.
She and the driver left. She told him this was a good lesson for him, but offered to see him the next day when he had the rest of the donation.
While I probably would not have thought to do this myself and I don't fault Chuchurocket for not doing this given the drama going on at the time, but he never went to the room to verify the key card worked a real door. That would have made clear in spades her side of this.
If she really got the room with the first money he gave her she was going through with it. She knew $90 wasn't coming, but now there's more shortage due to the second money. While his mistake is understandable from his point of view it looks totally different not from hers. We all know a short envelop is a serious baddy. That's why we count the money about 10 times to make sure.
If that key card really worked nobody should blame her for leaving. Nobody should expect her to go behind closed doors once he put himself in bad light. He makes clear he was spooked. She was too.
Cudos to her for giving him the chance to see her the next day by paying the shortage. He should have taken advantage of her offer.
This situation shows what happens when people get surprised. He was surprised by being asked to front the room. She expected a $90 shortage and saw a larger one. All trust was gone at that point.
If that key card really worked I would take Chuchurocket's total experience as a positive review for Alexisann. But I would want Alexisann to explain how it was she needed the cash for the room and could get it without a credit card as security. [/QUOTE]I have seen her a couple times and that is the way she rolls. Never has money for a room and if she cannot get it from her family member guess what. Your next to be ask. Problem with that you don't get asked until you are already on your way to meet her.
Another issue you may run into is that she has no drivers license so she has a family member drop her off. Which is fine until you here. My family does not know what I do for a living. They think I just dance for my clients.
So she tries to get you finish off as quick as possible before the hour is up. Afraid they will come knocking on the door if it goes over.
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1166968]Separate what really happened from all the extraneous details and this thing looks totally different.
She texted complaining she was shorted. He tried to explain it was an honest mistake, and no doubt it was, but her demeanor sharply changed. She knew to expect his $90 problem but now there was a second problem, a pocket problem.
She and the driver left. She told him this was a good lesson for him, but offered to see him the next day when he had the rest of the donation.
While I probably would not have thought to do this myself and I don't fault Chuchurocket for not doing this given the drama going on at the time, but he never went to the room to verify the key card worked a real door. That would have made clear in spades her side of this.
If she really got the room with the first money he gave her she was going through with it. She knew $90 wasn't coming, but now there's more shortage due to the second money. While his mistake is understandable from his point of view it looks totally different not from hers. We all know a short envelop is a serious baddy. That's why we count the money about 10 times to make sure.
If that key card really worked nobody should blame her for leaving. Nobody should expect her to go behind closed doors once he put himself in bad light. He makes clear he was spooked. She was too.
Cudos to her for giving him the chance to see her the next day by paying the shortage. He should have taken advantage of her offer.
This situation shows what happens when people get surprised. He was surprised by being asked to front the room. She expected a $90 shortage and saw a larger one. All trust was gone at that point.
If that key card really worked I would take Chuchurocket's total experience as a positive review for Alexisann. But I would want Alexisann to explain how it was she needed the cash for the room and could get it without a credit card as security. [/QUOTE]Golfcart:
You are so forgiving here. Maybe you have missed your calling GC, that of a Catholic Priest who hears confessions and grants absolution for one's sins. You are WAAAAAAAY more forgiving than I would EVER BE. Sounds like you are trying to rationalize or justify this providers behavior that night, and I don't see that as a possiblity.
I think you are right in one assessment, there is no way we are going to know exactly what happened that night, blow by blow; (er no blow was involved, is more appropriate here).
But here is the bottom line; the Wench drives off with Chuch's funds for which she did NOT earn. There is NEVER an excuse for this and I don't care what the circumstances are. What would have been wrong with the provider calling him on the shortage, Chuch then making the amount right, and they go on with the intended business; (unless that was not her plan to begin with). Anything short of that in this situation just makes her look like a filthy, rotten thief, IMO. And that is why I never went to the Seminary, because I don't forgive people that try to get-over on me, or others. I would nail her azz, if that had happened to me, and that you could place a bet on. She is just fortunate that ole Varoom is not the sole that she scammed. And I will leave it at that.
[QUOTE=Ralphy; 1166602]Gentlemen.
Tis been sometime since my last posting, but after coming out of a blah relationship I decided to partake in SC's coconut oil massage. It was easy to set up an appointment with the lovely lady SC. Her massage with the coconut oil is a must gentlemen. I had set up a 2hr appointment and was well worth it. I felt I was with an longtime friend after the ice was broken, SC is a sweet lady, and gives a very soothing massage and more.
Thanks M for the great massage and company! [/QUOTE]I enjoyed your company as well Mr. Ralphy. Amazing all the "old timers" we both know. Ironic it took us this long to cross each others path.
Golfcart, I don't think there is any excuse whatsoever on Alexisann's part. If she was shorted before the session started she should have done an about face and gotten the money back on the room. You can do that if you change your mind within 15 minutes of getting it. I've done it before once myself. Secondly she should have returned all the money except maybe a cancellation fee. 50 dollars is except-able in my book.
But to take all the money and run is nothing short of theft no matter how this girl justifies it in her mind. Also its just plain bad for business. If she treated him right she would have possibly had a LT client / provider relationship, not to mention getting a good review instead of a bad one. I doubt anyone reading this board will give Alexisann a try after hearing this. There are few things Hobbyist like less than being cheated out of their money.
In any case paying upfront, especially before having even entered the room was a serious foe paw on his part. Also Alexis should have let him know upfront the room cost was to be his. This was a breech on her part and akin to up selling to get FS. IMO this was an all the way around debacle.
Ultimately it is up to us hobbyist to keep things from getting out of control. There is a saying that comes to mind "Good fences make good neighbors." If we allow enable bad behavior by not protecting ourselves in the first place it's bound to happen that advantages will be taken.
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1166968]Separate what really happened from all the extraneous details and this thing looks totally different.
Chuchurocket is an experienced hobbyist who left home with part of the money in his jeans pocket and stopped on the way to get more money from an ATM machine which he put in his jacket pocket.
He was still $90 short which he told her he would be and she okayed because she was desperate to get her rent paid.
They met in the hotel parking lot. Alexisann arrived by driver. She walked to his car and he gave her the money for the room as she requested. Although unplanned it happens the girl needs the room money fronted. Some guys do it and some don't. It's a choice.
She returned to his car and gave him the key card and a business card with the room number on it. She asked that the driver hold the donation while they were inside because of past problems with others. Maybe part of this was she knew he was going to be $90 short anyway. No sense taking any chances on the rest of it.
He was reluctant, but gave it to her, but he gave her only the money from one pocket or the other so she was inadvertently shorted more than the $90 she was expecting. She took the money to her driver. What happened next was by text from the driver's car.
She texted complaining she was shorted. He tried to explain it was an honest mistake, and no doubt it was, but her demeanor sharply changed. She knew to expect his $90 problem but now there was a second problem, a pocket problem.
She and the driver left. She told him this was a good lesson for him, but offered to see him the next day when he had the rest of the donation.
While I probably would not have thought to do this myself and I don't fault Chuchurocket for not doing this given the drama going on at the time, but he never went to the room to verify the key card worked a real door. That would have made clear in spades her side of this.
If she really got the room with the first money he gave her she was going through with it. She knew $90 wasn't coming, but now there's more shortage due to the second money. While his mistake is understandable from his point of view it looks totally different not from hers. We all know a short envelop is a serious baddy. That's why we count the money about 10 times to make sure.
If that key card really worked nobody should blame her for leaving. Nobody should expect her to go behind closed doors once he put himself in bad light. He makes clear he was spooked. She was too.
Cudos to her for giving him the chance to see her the next day by paying the shortage. He should have taken advantage of her offer.
This situation shows what happens when people get surprised. He was surprised by being asked to front the room. She expected a $90 shortage and saw a larger one. All trust was gone at that point.
If that key card really worked I would take Chuchurocket's total experience as a positive review for Alexisann. But I would want Alexisann to explain how it was she needed the cash for the room and could get it without a credit card as security.[/QUOTE]
Saw her a few times in past years when she was Mercedes23 I think, seems like she has had another name or two also. Very inconsistent, sometimes pretty good sometimes off the game. Always seemed to have a shady and unreliable element, her old incall wasn't in best part of town, but never had trouble, and although she stood me up a couple of times and kind of felt jerked around instead of off some, never got ripped.
[QUOTE=Luchi;1167103]Golfcart, I don't think there is any excuse whatsoever on Alexisann's part. (edit delete)[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Varoom;1167045]Golfcart: You are so forgiving here. (edit delete) [/QUOTE]Guys, Chuchurocket brought his problem encounter to our attention. When you boil it down Alexisann took the money, most of the money Chuchurocket brought with him, and she didn't provide. She pulled a "cash and dash." The only reason she didn't get it all is he pulled a "short envelope."
Most everyone sees cash and dash as the bigger sin. I think a short envelope is worse (due to the context of this set-up). It's all opinion. This is difficult to resolve when both happen in the same encounter. I don't ever remember seeing both in the same encounter before.
A good friend of mine who is a provider was just telling me the other day that she has had a rash of "shorts" lately, even from people she had seen before. Said it wasn't big shortages but a lot of $20 to $40 short of the donation, and I have heard from others about guys pulling bigger shorts at leaving time. All of them have said they hate to go to pay in advance plans but they are thinking about it due to the larger number of occurrences. Everyone has the right to negotiate or haggle prior to making the deal however they want to do it, but there is really no excuse for not living up to your end of the deal after you have been served. I had an account do that to me this week in my business and someone almost got hurt, I suspect that would not be unreasonable to expect if we pull that sort of thing on providers either.
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[QUOTE=Ilapp;1167834]A good friend of mine who is a provider was just telling me the other day that she has had a rash of "shorts" lately, even from people she had seen before. Said it wasn't big shortages but a lot of $20 to $40 short of the donation, and I have heard from others about guys pulling bigger shorts at leaving time. All of them have said they hate to go to pay in advance plans but they are thinking about it due to the larger number of occurrences. Everyone has the right to negotiate or haggle prior to making the deal however they want to do it, but there is really no excuse for not living up to your end of the deal after you have been served. I had an account do that to me this week in my business and someone almost got hurt, I suspect that would not be unreasonable to expect if we pull that sort of thing on providers either.[/QUOTE]And while I disagree with Golfcart regarding the particulars of the alexisann deal (assuming, that is, that she made off with the donation, which has not been clearly stated) I do applaud him for equating short envelopes with cash and dash; they're both theft. Yet you have any number of hobbyists who scream bloody murder whenever any detail doesn't go their way, but imagine that running over, or finagling uncompensated time, is all part of the game.
I realize we are analyzing short envelops versus cash and dash but do either possibilities exist in a parking lot? I think the only mistake made here was not paying attention to the big head and it's red flags. I would have driven off long before handing any money over. I've no showed for less than that. One provider would randomly text me for open availability. I'm a married man and don't need the wife stumbling into any text before me. I was so uncomfortable with the random texts that I just blew off the appointment as nothing else seemed to work to make the texts go away. I decided "the hell with a good reference I don't need this drama.". Long story short, there are plenty of great providers out there that don't make this hobby more nerve racking than it needs to be. So lesson learned about Alexis? Take the report as intended: She's full of drama and not worth it. No need to over analyze the specifics and come to a providers defense unnecessarily. There are reviewers more worthy of critique, like me for example. Smile. Let's not piss off our brothers willing to share information, to the point we leave them uncomfortable doing so in the future.
[QUOTE=B Beall;1167855]And while I disagree with Golfcart regarding the particulars of the alexisann deal (assuming, that is, that she made off with the donation, which has not been clearly stated) I do applaud him for equating short envelopes with cash and dash; they're both theft. Yet you have any number of hobbyists who scream bloody murder whenever any detail doesn't go their way, but imagine that running over, or finagling uncompensated time, is all part of the game.[/QUOTE]
I have been a hobbyist for a while (approx 3-4 years) with limited reviews on this board. Typically used to post on e. Com. But, with its demise I thought this would be a good time to start posting here.
In any case, coming back to the review. I recently had an opportunity to meet up again with Sophie. She is one of the best girls in Indy. Compared with some of the experiences I have had, I give thanks that girls like Sophie are still around. She has a nice, cozy and safe incall location. Provides the best experience ever. I have seen her friend Macy also on a couple of occasions and again the experience has been something to write about.
Lets drop the subject, this is a dead horse. Everyone make their own opinion but spare the rest of us from making a comment on this board. Lets get back to giving usefull information on our lovely providers.
[QUOTE=Daville;1168118]I realize we are analyzing short envelops versus cash and dash but do either possibilities exist in a parking lot? I think the only mistake made here was not paying attention to the big head and it's red flags. I would have driven off long before handing any money over. I've no showed for less than that. One provider would randomly text me for open availability. I'm a married man and don't need the wife stumbling into any text before me. I was so uncomfortable with the random texts that I just blew off the appointment as nothing else seemed to work to make the texts go away. I decided "the hell with a good reference I don't need this drama.". Long story short, there are plenty of great providers out there that don't make this hobby more nerve racking than it needs to be. So lesson learned about Alexis? Take the report as intended: She's full of drama and not worth it. No need to over analyze the specifics and come to a providers defense unnecessarily. There are reviewers more worthy of critique, like me for example. Smile. Let's not piss off our brothers willing to share information, to the point we leave them uncomfortable doing so in the future.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. I have had text and called and I don't respondi back because I don't need them to think that is ok to do this. I have had that cash and dash happen to me and there is no excused for that. I have put 1/2 on different pockets just in case is a rip-off. But I always bring extra for tips. I'm not afraid of telling them that I tip for good service.
[QUOTE=Daville;1168118]Let's not piss off our brothers willing to share information, to the point we leave them uncomfortable doing so in the future.[/QUOTE]Keeping people honest is all part of the process.
And I dunno about you, but personally I've had a lot more bad experiences with women who got glowing reviews from this and other boards than I have from anyone I've been warned off for drama.
[QUOTE=Golfcart;1166968]She asked that the driver hold the donation while they were inside because of past problems with others. Maybe part of this was she knew he was going to be $90 short anyway. No sense taking any chances on the rest of it.[/QUOTE]Nobody holds my donation but me. If she doesn't trust me then I walk. Depending on the price of the room, I want my money back. If she doesn't give the money back then it's time to let her know that every board available will be advised of how she plays the game. $.20 is good enough for her troubles. It's a plain and simple rule of the hobby, no body holds any donation except me and once in the room I let her see it and then it sits out in the open until we are finished.
FF.
PS. Does anyone know if Roni on BP has freckles?
[QUOTE=Redlynx Con; 1168213]I have been a hobbyist for a while (approx 3-4 years) with limited reviews on this board. Typically used to post on e. Com. But, with its demise I thought this would be a good time to start posting here.
In any case, coming back to the review. I recently had an opportunity to meet up again with Sophie. She is one of the best girls in Indy. Compared with some of the experiences I have had, I give thanks that girls like Sophie are still around. She has a nice, cozy and safe incall location. Provides the best experience ever. I have seen her friend Macy also on a couple of occasions and again the experience has been something to write about. [/QUOTE]Sophie is an all around awesome Provider and person. One of the top flight Providers in Indy and well worth the money.
I too have had mediocre experiences from well reviewed providers on the board. I can't say I've had good experiences with any that were reviewed poorly. You'll have to PM me with whom you are referring to; I'd love to know! I agree that at times reviewers need to be challenged, however in my humble opinion this particular topic I find people are simply trying to poke holes in a solid drama queen review. I commend (forget the posters handle) for his clarity about the situation, whereas most of us would have been too embarrassed to post a review, exposing our lack of street smarts within this hobby. These type of reviews allow us to see the reality of a providers personality whether it were cash and dash or not. I'm simply saying we should be more selective in those reviews we decide to challenge.
I remember an awful experience with Carly, attempted to post the facts on another site, only to receive a rejection letter stating that my review way not consistent with past reviewers. I chose not to post a review at all on that site as I would have to have mislead others into an equally bad experience as past reviews stated she looked just like her photos which was false. That is when I realized how valuable this site is. We may not like someone critiquing our ATF. I personally appreciate it so that I have an opportunity to see if the negatives are tolerable for my tastes. I would hate to make any reviewer feel that they need to go with the flow like sights such as another site does.
[QUOTE=B Beall; 1168293]Keeping people honest is all part of the process.
And I dunno about you, but personally I've had a lot more bad experiences with women who got glowing reviews from this and other boards than I have from anyone I've been warned off for drama. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak;1168514]PS. Does anyone know if Roni on BP has freckles?[/QUOTE]Yes, several. I told you that before.
[QUOTE=HandfulOfWheel;1168684]Yes, several. I told you that before.[/QUOTE]Sorry. I must have forgotten. It must have been some time back, because you and I have not been able to have a drink and titties lately. You're too damn busy with the ladies!
FF.
PS. Well Larcklorn I guess we know the truth about Roni and freckles. I believe anything HOW tells me.
Just saw that Sexylittlemissivory was posting on this site. I have not experienced her myself but a friend has and he was not pleased. Old pics, skanky and wished he had a full body cover during the session, not just a raincoat. This forum is for informational purposes and since she posted I felt the information was purposeful. As always YMMV.
FF.
PS. He toftt'd and she does not have freckles.
[QUOTE=Daville; 1168669]I too have had mediocre experiences from well reviewed providers on the board. I can't say I've had good experiences with any that were reviewed poorly. You'll have to PM me with whom you are referring to; I'd love to know! I agree that at times reviewers need to be challenged, however in my humble opinion this particular topic I find people are simply trying to poke holes in a solid drama queen review. I commend (forget the posters handle) for his clarity about the situation, whereas most of us would have been too embarrassed to post a review, exposing our lack of street smarts within this hobby. These type of reviews allow us to see the reality of a providers personality whether it were cash and dash or not. I'm simply saying we should be more selective in those reviews we decide to challenge.
I remember an awful experience with Carly, attempted to post the facts on another site, only to receive a rejection letter stating that my review way not consistent with past reviewers. I chose not to post a review at all on that site as I would have to have mislead others into an equally bad experience as past reviews stated she looked just like her photos which was false. That is when I realized how valuable this site is. We may not like someone critiquing our ATF. I personally appreciate it so that I have an opportunity to see if the negatives are tolerable for my tastes. I would hate to make any reviewer feel that they need to go with the flow like sights such as another site does. [/QUOTE]Danville,
Which Carly are you talking about? I think there are a couple of them here in Indy. I have been with the Carly that now goes by Carlee. Pm me and lest compare.
[QUOTE=IndyGentleman; 1164203]I had an hour appointment with this girl who advertises on BP (and a few other places).
[url]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-have-a-dirty-little-secret-28/4262259[/url]
I was pleasantly surprised that she looked even better than her pictures. We had a great time. She was exactly as advertised and I would definately recommend her.[/QUOTE]I was able to arrange a meeting with her one time very late at night. I saw her on NR and she is as advertised. Overall, it was a pleasant experience.
I recently met this very cute young lady and she is the real deal. She has a pretty busy life, so only opens her schedule a couple of days each week. She does incall only and uses various higher end downtown hotels. She is 26, cute, very petite, truly a GFE, and a MILF. She is a member here, but has only one post. She said it was OK for me to post her review and contact info, which is [email]andrea.indy.hott@gmail.com.[/email] She will give you all the necessary details when you contact her. But please, don't take up all her time. Save some for me! Feel free to pm me for additional specific info, as I prefer to keep it general here. Andrea is a keeper!
[QUOTE=Kingsix2;1169047]I was able to arrange a meeting with her one time very late at night. I saw her on NR and she is as advertised. Overall, it was a pleasant experience.[/QUOTE]Her body is very nice but how is her face?
[QUOTE=Davidonecall;1169531]Her body is very nice but how is her face?[/QUOTE]I have seen her too. Looks young. You ask about her face, compared to who that maybe we have both seen? I would consider her as cute. You would never dream that she escorts.
[QUOTE=IluvEscort;1169651]I have seen her too. Looks young. You ask about her face, compared to who that maybe we have both seen? I would consider her as cute. You would never dream that she escorts.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Is just that sometime the body is nice but the face has like things on them. I don't expect like Ms America but a nice face. This helps.
[url]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/smokin-hot-blonde-27/4280766[/url]
Any one seen her? Google says she belongs to an escort agency called Barely Legal.
Thanks,
Tony
[QUOTE=Davidonecall;1169827]Thanks for the info. Is just that sometime the body is nice but the face has like things on them. I don't expect like Ms America but a nice face. This helps.[/QUOTE]I agree. She is cute. Reminds me of the cheerleader you wanted to ask out but knew you would be turned down. Thin body and very good skills. Not PSE but definetely GFE.
[QUOTE=Jackass2; 1165646]Was visiting the city and scheduled a meeting with Ms Shay. Was extremely easy to schedule. Her phone number is listed on her profile with some nice pics as well. I did provide references but later found out she never confirmed with any of the providers. We had very nice conversation on the phone, the location she suggested seemed to be in an upscale area of the city. We agreed on a time, I paid for the room and called her with the room number. Everything still was okay at this point. 30 min later. 45 min later, an hour later. Still no Shay, Ms Shay has decided not to answer her phone any longer. I decide to try to text her, this being the first text that I sent, and with her not answering my phone calls anymore, I was a little reluctant on getting a text back. To my surprise I did, and it was extremely defensive "I don't know you, lose my number", and I explain we have just talked on the phone 3 different times. She then proceeds to tell me "I'm crazy, lose my number". Being her number is on her e profile, I sent back that she may need to take her number down from her profile. She replies with she is going to turn me in and I'm crazy. I then text her ShayShay23. I never heard any more from her.
It appears there is many e providers in the Indy area that have some behaviroal issues. At least thats what I gather from recent reviews. I have never experienced this with e providers in the past. Possibily I'm coming to realize e will no longer be in existence. I have not wanted to believe what other mongers had said about the site recently. I have had such amazing encounters from e. [/QUOTE]You have NEVER called me to set an appointment because if you did I would have been there and on time. Another thing I do not appreciate you trying to give me a bad rep. I always check my references and for behavioral issues ha I am the bubbliest outgoing sweetest person you would have ever have the pleasure of meeting. I never suggest hotels as we are all grown and I am sure you could figure out where you would like to stay or where you would like to meet me at. I am not sure who you think you called or who you think you talked to but it was certainly not me. So this is either a wildly made up story or you had the wrong Shay. But I will say if this did happen to you it was not me and I will guarantee you that. I am sorry this happen to you but sweets it was not me you were calling. I am very respectful, sweet and see no need to be rude as I would not want anyone being that way to me.
I joined this site because I had gentlemen that has seen me tell me about your review of me and they have all said that was not me don't even sound like a thing I would do. So I would greatly appreciate it if you would stop trying to spread awful things about me. As I am the real SHAYSHAY23.
Was fortunate to have Kendra in town while my pockets were burning. I was hesitant as not many have reviewed her hear, but her reviews on eicce backwards seemed good enough and the pictures were too hard to refuse.
Her incall location was excellent with the typical candles, and music playing, each of you have read about. Not once was a donation asked for and her careful discretion put me at ease right away. Her personality is very down to earth, her physical attributes are that of a runway model, and her hygiene was fantastic. This woman pays every inch of attention to herself without letting it get to her head. I felt as if I were hanging out with an old friend instead of donating money for time.
Sr. Members feel free to ask what you like however her reviews are very accurate and the time is well spent. You, like me, will be left waiting for her next trip in town, or cracking into the piggy bank to see her again as soon as possible. A true gem, a real professional, and the decider I've seen so far.
Our latest arrival is indeed delightful, legit and a pleasure to spend time with! .
Sr's, feel free to PM me.
Have fun & play safe!
Miles.
[QUOTE=ShayShay23; 1170052]You have NEVER called me to set an appointment because if you did I would have been there and on time. Another thing I do not appreciate you trying to give me a bad rep. I always check my references and for behavioral issues ha I am the bubbliest outgoing sweetest person you would have ever have the pleasure of meeting. I never suggest hotels as we are all grown and I am sure you could figure out where you would like to stay or where you would like to meet me at. I am not sure who you think you called or who you think you talked to but it was certainly not me. So this is either a wildly made up story or you had the wrong Shay. But I will say if this did happen to you it was not me and I will guarantee you that. I am sorry this happen to you but sweets it was not me you were calling. I am very respectful, sweet and see no need to be rude as I would not want anyone being that way to me.
I joined this site because I had gentlemen that has seen me tell me about your review of me and they have all said that was not me don't even sound like a thing I would do. So I would greatly appreciate it if you would stop trying to spread awful things about me. As I am the real SHAYSHAY23. [/QUOTE]I can vouch for ShayShay23 in a huge way. She is everything and much, much more than she has stated in this post. I have seen her many times, as lately as last week. She is off the charts fun, funny and spontaneously sexy as he.
I realize that I have not had a presence here on this board hardly at all. I am still rather new here. As a result of the failings of e. Com I found this site. AND LOVE IT! If anyone has questions for me concerning ShayShay23 or myself please feel free to PM me.
[QUOTE=Tony Verghese; 1169844]
[url]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/smokin-hot-blonde-27/4280766[/url]
Any one seen her? Google says she belongs to an escort agency called Barely Legal.
Thanks,
Tony[/QUOTE]Tony,
That number pops up a lot on different sites and it is always a different name & picture so google the phone number and do your home work, but the consensus seems to be stay away she is a scam. A quick search came up with 4 names & pics on 4 different sites on the first page alone, Kitty, Erica, Emily, & Lorri.
Be safe
I echo the comments below about the newest addition to Indy. Hawaii's loss is definitely Indy's gain! She is good looking (better than the pics posted on another thread. The last one is the best representation) , great personality, awesome body, and even more awesome skills.
Seniors PM for details.