Safe Sex Information and Advice

CBJ and HJ. Really doubt that you are getting Syphills.

[QUOTE=Socalfly2;6288459]Long time lurker, first time poster. Used to monger all around the county a while back, but moved out of state. Was recently back in town and hit a fairly popular joint (first mongering session in 6+ months) and now I am having quite the Syphilis scare. Was CBJ followed by HJ so I assumed the risks were low, but not zero. Curious if any of you have picked up anything recently? This 100% would have been the only place I could have picked it up.

The session was great FWIW. Stay safe why'all![/QUOTE]

I have had HSV2 for over 10 years with only 2-3 outbreaks, including the first. Never passed it to my SO because we monitor it closely and take antivirals.

About 2.5 weeks after this encounter, I had a small single sore, which definitely could be an HSV outbreak, but the timing lines up with the possibility of syphilis. The sore did heal on its own in 3-4 days which is promising. Now, 2 weeks later, there are other possible symptoms (swollen lymph nodes in groin, somewhat prickly / itchy skin (but no significant rash, yet), etc). Definitely a chance that it's mostly anxiety driven, but it's definitely a scare (home life adds to it, for obvious reasons).

All prior mongering activities were HJ only so never had an issue with it.

[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;6288605]Although I am not a medical professional, I am curious as to why you think of all the communicate above diseases that can be transmitted you have a concern over syphilis?

If you had it covered blow job and hand job finish there was always a barrier between you and saliva or bodily fluids, so your risk of contracting a disease is very minimal as far as I understand.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I think you have a lot more anxiety over the act of visiting a massage parlor, and you will always have paranoia and fear until you become comfortable going to one of these places. You said you haven't gone for 6+ months. Did you ever have concerns before about a communicable disease from a massage? Or is this a recent concern. I am assuming you're not displaying physical symptoms of a syphilis infection but if you are, I would recommend you get medical attention.

In my personal opinion, this is an a unnecessary concern (getting syphilis) but only you can decide which you're comfortable with, and what you actually do behind closed doors in a massage parlor is entirely only your business.[/QUOTE]

One of my massage girl friends came up with warts on her hand.

She denied playing with toads.

Papilloma virus.

[QUOTE=Socalfly2;6288459]Long time lurker, first time poster. Used to monger all around the county a while back, but moved out of state. Was recently back in town and hit a fairly popular joint (first mongering session in 6+ months) and now I am having quite the Syphilis scare. Was CBJ followed by HJ so I assumed the risks were low, but not zero. Curious if any of you have picked up anything recently? This 100% would have been the only place I could have picked it up.

The session was great FWIW. Stay safe why'all![/QUOTE]

So I have a question for guys that do BBCIP. What's your thought process here? Are you not concerned you're catch something? No judging, just curious.

When I was actively playing, I admit I became a BBFS only guy. Was there a risk? Of course. Just as there is a risk in walking across a street in traffic. Or driving a car. Or rock climbing, or parachuting, or. Or. Or. Or dozens of things we do every day.

I did it because it felt much, much better and made fucking way more pleasurable for me. I had a very limited list of ladies I played with this way, and they weren't $50 QV ladies. I knew they (as well as I) got tested periodically. Some of them actually showed me their test results. And I gave them the same courtesy in return. I never had a problem over the 14 years and 5 ladies I regularly barebacked (not all ladies at the same time). Maybe I was lucky. But I think the STD risk is somewhat overhyped when you dig into the actual statistics.

Bottom line is Life is full of risks and unknowns. I might drop dead of a heart attack 2 minutes after I post this.

[QUOTE=BigJob;6292761]So I have a question for guys that do BBCIP. What's your thought process here? Are you not concerned you're catch something? No judging, just curious.[/QUOTE]

And although not judging, comparing the risks of those risks to spreading STDs are apples and oranges. Rock climbing and skydiving kill the risk taker only. Car travel is extremely safe relative to time behind the wheel vs unprotected sex. It's even more safe from long term health effects. With this, you expose everyone after the risk (knowing or unknowing).

I have two friends with herps 2 (guy and girl) and both had false negative test results because they didn't get antibody tests. They were initially given the test you get when showing symptoms or during an outbreak. It also lies dormant but can still be spread asymptomatic. The guy is a man-***** but the girl has a low body count and got it from her ex. Both say the disease itself is no big deal but the shame of disclosing it is the worst. Who's going to stick around for that. So for most, it's easier to shut up and keep fucking. Studies show about 15% infection rate but that's only the people that report symptoms and get tested. They estimate that the real number could be 20 to 25 % because people don't know or don't care to report. So at 5%, one out of every 20 girls we hit have the H2. Doesn't mean we'll get it but fuck 40 or 60 girls and I think it becomes a probability instead of a possibility. And non of this considers the the more treatable STDs nor does it consider HIV.

I'm all for having fun on which ever planet you enjoy. But it only takes one time to get it from someone that may not even know. Damn, all this sounds strangely familiar to something else, LOL.

[QUOTE=BrandRod;6293774]When I was actively playing, I admit I became a BBFS only guy. Was there a risk? Of course. Just as there is a risk in walking across a street in traffic. Or driving a car. Or rock climbing, or parachuting, or. Or. Or. Or dozens of things we do every day.

I did it because it felt much, much better and made fucking way more pleasurable for me. I had a very limited list of ladies I played with this way, and they weren't $50 QV ladies. I knew they (as well as I) got tested periodically. Some of them actually showed me their test results. And I gave them the same courtesy in return. I never had a problem over the 14 years and 5 ladies I regularly barebacked (not all ladies at the same time). Maybe I was lucky. But I think the STD risk is somewhat overhyped when you dig into the actual statistics.

Bottom line is Life is full of risks and unknowns. I might drop dead of a heart attack 2 minutes after I post this.[/QUOTE]

IDK. Kinda sounds judgmental. 😂.

I think you missed BR's main point. Life is full of risks. You can be a risk taker or be risk averse. BR is clearly willing to take some risk. It's not as simple as the "apples and oranges" analogy you use.

Sorry you had 2 friends catch something (although the guy apparently was willing to fuck anybody or anything if I read your comment correctly, so not a big surprise). Sadly, it sounds like the lady just was wrong place, wrong time, wrong partner. Aka bad luck. Maybe this is a better analogy. Thousands (maybe tens of thousands?) of innocent people, who tried to take every reasonable precaution they could, nonetheless caught Covid and died.

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;6296171]And although not judging, comparing the risks of those risks to spreading STDs are apples and oranges. Rock climbing and skydiving kill the risk taker only. Car travel is extremely safe relative to time behind the wheel vs unprotected sex. It's even more safe from long term health effects. With this, you expose everyone after the risk (knowing or unknowing).

I have two friends with herps 2 (guy and girl) and both had false negative test results because they didn't get antibody tests. They were initially given the test you get when showing symptoms or during an outbreak. It also lies dormant but can still be spread asymptomatic. The guy is a man-***** but the girl has a low body count and got it from her ex. Both say the disease itself is no big deal but the shame of disclosing it is the worst. Who's going to stick around for that. So for most, it's easier to shut up and keep fucking. Studies show about 15% infection rate but that's only the people that report symptoms and get tested. They estimate that the real number could be 20 to 25 % because people don't know or don't care to report. So at 5%, one out of every 20 girls we hit have the H2. Doesn't mean we'll get it but fuck 40 or 60 girls and I think it becomes a probability instead of a possibility. And non of this considers the the more treatable STDs nor does it consider HIV.

I'm all for having fun on which ever planet you enjoy. But it only takes one time to get it from someone that may not even know. Damn, all this sounds strangely familiar to something else, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;6296171]And although not judging, comparing the risks of those risks to spreading STDs are apples and oranges. Rock climbing and skydiving kill the risk taker only. Car travel is extremely safe relative to time behind the wheel vs unprotected sex. It's even more safe from long term health effects. With this, you expose everyone after the risk (knowing or unknowing).

I have two friends with herps 2 (guy and girl) and both had false negative test results because they didn't get antibody tests. They were initially given the test you get when showing symptoms or during an outbreak. It also lies dormant but can still be spread asymptomatic. The guy is a man-***** but the girl has a low body count and got it from her ex. Both say the disease itself is no big deal but the shame of disclosing it is the worst. Who's going to stick around for that. So for most, it's easier to shut up and keep fucking. Studies show about 15% infection rate but that's only the people that report symptoms and get tested. They estimate that the real number could be 20 to 25 % because people don't know or don't care to report. So at 5%, one out of every 20 girls we hit have the H2. Doesn't mean we'll get it but fuck 40 or 60 girls and I think it becomes a probability instead of a possibility. And non of this considers the the more treatable STDs nor does it consider HIV.

I'm all for having fun on which ever planet you enjoy. But it only takes one time to get it from someone that may not even know. Damn, all this sounds strangely familiar to something else, LOL.[/QUOTE]Guttermind: I think you hit the nail on the head here. Tis all I will say.

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;6296171]And although not judging, comparing the risks of those risks to spreading STDs are apples and oranges. Rock climbing and skydiving kill the risk taker only. Car travel is extremely safe relative to time behind the wheel vs unprotected sex. It's even more safe from long term health effects. With this, you expose everyone after the risk (knowing or unknowing).

I have two friends with herps 2 (guy and girl) and both had false negative test results because they didn't get antibody tests. They were initially given the test you get when showing symptoms or during an outbreak. It also lies dormant but can still be spread asymptomatic. The guy is a man-***** but the girl has a low body count and got it from her ex. Both say the disease itself is no big deal but the shame of disclosing it is the worst. Who's going to stick around for that. So for most, it's easier to shut up and keep fucking. Studies show about 15% infection rate but that's only the people that report symptoms and get tested. They estimate that the real number could be 20 to 25 % because people don't know or don't care to report. So at 5%, one out of every 20 girls we hit have the H2. Doesn't mean we'll get it but fuck 40 or 60 girls and I think it becomes a probability instead of a possibility. And non of this considers the the more treatable STDs nor does it consider HIV.

I'm all for having fun on which ever planet you enjoy. But it only takes one time to get it from someone that may not even know. Damn, all this sounds strangely familiar to something else, LOL.[/QUOTE]This is so well written! Yes! There is risk in everything in life but getting a incurable STD from a provider is pure risk. Yes! We all have done that a time or two but I would be cautious. Certain type of sexual behavior carries high risk. In the order of risk of STD transmission, greek is the highest risk homo or hetero followed by vaginal, and oral. Dfk is the least followed by swordfight LOL. In the long run, its better to keep it covered as GM put it, the more you do the higher the risk.

I see a lot of people on here posting links to girls who do BBFS but how often to you actually partake in that? I would love BBFS on some of these providers but I feel like its a huge risk.

[QUOTE=JKnight2040;6299980]I see a lot of people on here posting links to girls who do BBFS but how often to you actually partake in that? I would love BBFS on some of these providers but I feel like its a huge risk.[/QUOTE]I've been wondering the same thing. Do we know how often these girls are tested?

If you can not accept any risk then it's not for you.

[QUOTE=JKnight2040;6299980]I see a lot of people on here posting links to girls who do BBFS but how often to you actually partake in that? I would love BBFS on some of these providers but I feel like its a huge risk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JKnight2040;6299980]I see a lot of people on here posting links to girls who do BBFS but how often to you actually partake in that? I would love BBFS on some of these providers but I feel like its a huge risk.[/QUOTE]They test regularly. I've only ever caught something once and I've been going for years. Easy fix with antibiotics. It's just a problem if some idiot doesn't get tested. Do yourself a favor and get tested regularly and if you want to make it easier buy some Azithromycin or Doxy and run the recommended doses every few months just to be safe. But I mean you can catch stds with oral too. There is always risks in this game.

[QUOTE=Stonkz;6301529]They test regularly. I've only ever caught something once and I've been going for years. Easy fix with antibiotics. It's just a problem if some idiot doesn't get tested. Do yourself a favor and get tested regularly and if you want to make it easier buy some Azithromycin or Doxy and run the recommended doses every few months just to be safe. But I mean you can catch stds with oral too. There is always risks in this game.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2014/07/10/330217262/why-hiv-spreads-less-easily-in-heterosexual-couples[/URL]

I always believed this article was conclusive, and that the male shvantz is almost impossible to infect with hiv so long as the shvantz is not tortured in deprecated ways.

Did you ask the booker or provider or know someone personally?

[QUOTE=CaptCaveman99;6301415]The k-agency girls are tested regularly but it's still a risk.[/QUOTE]