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Well I called this lady, I had called her before, but she is looking for$ .80 for half hour, I thought, for that, I go to the ONE instead.

[QUOTE=Tp1701]Did you pay for a half hour or just 15 min?[/QUOTE]15 minutes. But he stayed for a total of 25 or so. That's why I said make it happen and I gave him the time to do so. I didn't say time over gotta go.


In response to the other guy, there isn't much you don't know hun, besides the fact that I don't even provide 15 min visits or short notice visits at that and yes his 3rd 15 minute visit, OVER 2 YEARS, I did it out of being a good provider to and old client: why is it okay to give a bad review of a girl who is and delivers exactly as offered, yet because she does not give "extra" she deserves to be badly spoken of yet if I asked for more I am a cheat/up-seller? Why is not delivering exactly as stated enough anymore?


If he wasn't quite done, why not offer more to stay longer? I clearly explain and have written on my site that I provide TIME. As you earlier stated the economy is bad, I too live in the same economy sir, I have the same bills and obligations, I have a dog that has vet bills. I have the same mother (who by the way was not too long ago on life support), a father who is sick now, brothers and sisters in school and obligations as you so why should I be required to do more when I do what is offered? Why not the client be required to give more, how about a "tip" for any of the extra time I had given him before or maybe tip the extra time I gave him this time? There are 2 sides to each story, now you know mine, you know he did get extra time, can you write a comment that clients should pay for the time they request or tip if they stay longer as ladies should offer the services/time they advertise. Clients should come clean and not need to take time to wash and ladies should provide the space for it if they still need too. It goes both ways, be fair not one sided. You may not think I am fair you have never visited me so you don't know. I know and so does he that I am more than fair, I fail to see how getting what you paid for can be a bad thing, especially with all the other things that could go wrong, kinda like the story directly above this thread, yet no comments and frankly, if getting exactly what you ordered is not enough for you or anyone else, then not only am I not the provider for you, along with the fact you actually ask why advertise as a serious question (McDonalds, Macy's, the place you work) I'd like you to know that you are far from the type of client I entertain and appreciate you not wanting to visit me. Please don't bother with a stop watch, I'd rather you not bother with me. The only way to keep regulars Darlin, is to be an excellent provider, so glad you recognize, I have regulars, that says allot about me.

FYI it was a potential client that pulled my coat tail on this thread, all bad press is not always bad, some gentleman can see through crap and contact real providers anyway. At worse it brings those who didn't know me to find out about me.

Thanks you know who you are, $25 off if you ever visit me.

FRom another forum:

Re: Any info on this South County Hottie?

i actualy have seen this provider she is young very fit and very sexy no gfe though cant kiss cant touck her down stairs area and condom on immediatley and only one pop.. but she has a very nice apt felt safe3 and was very easy to get too


That's the complete post. No mention of time or donation. Is the post true or not you'll have to decide.
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[QUOTE=Joi Love]15 minutes[/QUOTE]


I realize that the reality is that it is about the money and it is a business in a sense but this situation brings a few thoughts to mind.

All of us here do something to earn our livings, all of us understand that we get paid for our time and that is the way things work. Many of us understand that from time to time we must work "Extra" or give ""Extra" to insure our employer or customers do not tire of us or decide to replace us with someone else.

I wonder how terrible it would have been if you gave this person an extra 10 minutes to help him along without pressuring him to finish. Sure it is not what he paid for, sure you feel maybe taken advantage of because maybe he should have maybe paid for a half hour, maybe this guy went to you and paid for 15 thinking you would allow him overtime. But just think of the bad press you now have because of this one post! Think of what the difference would be if you just allowed this guy another 5 or 10 minutes without pushing him out the door. Maybe with that small gesture he would have put a stellar report here for you and you would possiby gotten a few good regulars from the post.

I personally have been considering a visit to you for some time but have held off because of your rate (pricey) and a lack of interesting reviews from trusted senior members here. I am in no way saying you are not worth your price or that you do this to anyone else or even that you were not in the right by telling this guy to move it along. All I am saying is that sometimes in business you must give a little extra to gain the faith of yur customers.

BTW I am still considering seeing you, but now I understand the visit wil be definately on the clock!

[QUOTE=Muffythediver]I realize that the reality is that it is about the money and it is a business in a sense but this situation brings a few thoughts to mind.

All of us here do something to earn our livings, all of us understand that we get paid for our time and that is the way things work. Many of us understand that from time to time we must work "Extra" or give ""Extra" to insure our employer or customers do not tire of us or decide to replace us with someone else.

I wonder how terrible it would have been if you gave this person an extra 10 minutes to help him along without pressuring him to finish. Sure it is not what he paid for, sure you feel maybe taken advantage of because maybe he should have maybe paid for a half hour, maybe this guy went to you and paid for 15 thinking you would allow him overtime. But just think of the bad press you now have because of this one post! Think of what the difference would be if you just allowed this guy another 5 or 10 minutes without pushing him out the door. Maybe with that small gesture he would have put a stellar report here for you and you would possiby gotten a few good regulars from the post.

I personally have been considering a visit to you for some time but have held off because of your rate (pricey) and a lack of interesting reviews from trusted senior members here. I am in no way saying you are not worth your price or that you do this to anyone else or even that you were not in the right by telling this guy to move it along. All I am saying is that sometimes in business you must give a little extra to gain the faith of yur customers.

BTW I am still considering seeing you, but now I understand the visit wil be definately on the clock![/QUOTE]If you only took his story how do you know he didn't get the extra 5-10 minutes you speak of. As a matter of fact he did. Secondly how is it you say I should give more, even with laid out rules and guidelines, but you would deff be angry if I ask for extra cash as well correct? If a person chooses not to visit me because of this, then you probably weren't coming anyway soooo? I do have great reviews here and ever place else. FYI a client I had not seen before told me about this post. Plus I'd prefer friends that understand the nature of our relationship and respects both of our needs not just his own, just as I am that type of provider. I don't see this as bad press, I see it as clients getting angry for getting exactly the service they paid for. I can't please everyone, if he wanted to sty longer, he should have paid more. Point blank be angry or not but as you said, it is a business and my time is my work, not my hobby.

Well honestly the report wasnt meant to be a bad one. As I said. Your skills are excellent. The only thing that bugged me was the rush. Yeh yeh, I know I paid for 15 minutes but mentioning that I had to make it happen soon threw a wrench in the works. Kinda like a turn off LOL. Now I also understand time is money but seriously if it was going to take me a couple extra minutes, is it really THAT big of a problem? Any provider I have ever seen has never given me trouble about the time if I go over a little bit or even mentioned to me to make it happen soon. Now if you wish to look at it as a bad report then so be it but that wasnt how it was meant to B. The fact that you created an account just to come on the boards to respond to my report, well. I will leave peoples impressions of that to themselves.

Once again. Great skills. Just didn't like the clock watching. Or not so much the watching but the mention of time running out.

[QUOTE=Muffythediver]I realize that the reality is that it is about the money and it is a business in a sense but this situation brings a few thoughts to mind.

All of us here do something to earn our livings, all of us understand that we get paid for our time and that is the way things work. Many of us understand that from time to time we must work "Extra" or give ""Extra" to insure our employer or customers do not tire of us or decide to replace us with someone else.

I wonder how terrible it would have been if you gave this person an extra 10 minutes to help him along without pressuring him to finish. Sure it is not what he paid for, sure you feel maybe taken advantage of because maybe he should have maybe paid for a half hour, maybe this guy went to you and paid for 15 thinking you would allow him overtime. But just think of the bad press you now have because of this one post! Think of what the difference would be if you just allowed this guy another 5 or 10 minutes without pushing him out the door. Maybe with that small gesture he would have put a stellar report here for you and you would possiby gotten a few good regulars from the post.

I personally have been considering a visit to you for some time but have held off because of your rate (pricey) and a lack of interesting reviews from trusted senior members here. I am in no way saying you are not worth your price or that you do this to anyone else or even that you were not in the right by telling this guy to move it along. All I am saying is that sometimes in business you must give a little extra to gain the faith of yur customers.

BTW I am still considering seeing you, but now I understand the visit wil be definately on the clock![/QUOTE]How do you know what I said to him sir with out asking me, because he said so? You didn't hear how he had been to my home before but wanted to see the whole thing so I took an extra 10 minutes to show him, then he took an extra 5-10 minutes washing up because he came stinky, then I offered him a drink before and after he finished. So your point on hospitality is what sir? I remember I once got a bad review for taking too much time getting to know people now not enough? You don't know the facts yet you assume something mean about me? Then because of a Sr. Members so called bad review, (ps it was a angry client of my/my old employee who gave me a great review on TER right after our visit then gave me bad ones on the same visit, after she was let go. Check names and dates from here, TER and Escorts.com you can see the pattern or ask me I'll show you) please you weren't coming because my rates as you stated earlier, that is understandable and your choice but don't try and piss on my forehead and tell me it's raining. I have over 50-60 great reviews and great ones here too yet you have never visited me so that is crap. Nor had you decided to tone in on those either, why not? Wht speak on something you know nothing about? Maybe next time you take the time to ask me what actually happened before you make an assumption of my services or actions. I give my clients exactly what they pay for, exactly what I offer, nothing less, always more yet that is not good enough now either? Providing exactly as advertised? Seems to me with some folk I'll never make the cut. Well guess what, that is quite all right with me. Everyone is not for everyone true and in this business I have come to realize that there are plenty for me. I won't get angry at you for your mistaken words. I won't be mad at those who choose to fall for this crap and not inquire about the truth, hell he said the truth I gave what he paid for, he wanted more, also bad press is not always bad. It brings people to my site to see what/who you speak of, they see the truth and our future begins. I see things that way not as negative as some would like me to seem. But thanks for keeping my name popular. My momma always said worry when they stop talking about you, that means you no longer matter. I appreciate the kinds words of some and respect the opinions of others, I only ask to be truthful about me.

Love, Joi

[QUOTE=Joi Love]15 minutes. But he stayed for a total 0f 25 or so. That's why I said make it happen and I gave him the time to do so. I didn't say time over gotta go.[/QUOTE]So giving exactly what is offered is no longer good enough? Then why be angry if a lady asks for more? She can use the same economy excuse as you for requesting more correct?

Note to self:
If ever visiting Joi skip the house tour, that counts toward time paid for.

Note to Joi:
His third visit and you treat him like this? A few extra minutes mean that much to you? You're in a service industry, think of just how many boards this story will be read on and how many potential clients you've lost.

I know your answer, that you've got regulars that shower you with jewels and keep you active. Then why advertise??

[QUOTE=Muffythediver]
BTW I am still considering seeing you, but now I understand the visit wil be definately on the clock![/QUOTE]

Bring a stop watch,,,:)

Joi, You have the SAME mother? Are we talking incest here? And no family discount either? LOL, relax I know that is not what you meant when you wrote that. I just caught the error and found it a bit funny.

Joi is right about the different sides of the story. She also gives some good advice to mongers as well. Such as, having some good hygiene. I have read from plenty of guys on here when they complain of a provider's hygiene BUT believe me I have run into PLENTY of provider's who have either refused service or gave bad service due to the dude's hygiene.

Is it really that hard to either shower before you leave the house? Or carry some handi wipes or even baby wipes to clean up a bit? I also carry tiny bottles of mouthwash that I picked up and a small bottle of cologne. I have been complimented numerous times on how clean I am and how good I smell and that's when they usually tell me stories about some other dude's bad hygiene.

Any other monger can look at this several ways. First of all, you know she's a REAL (not a fake and she has accurate pics) provider and you're not going to get busted (a BIG plus in my book). You know going in what the rates are so don't complain about them AND the last time I checked her website she was able to take credit cards too (which most either can't or won't do). I personally wouldn't use my plastic as I don't want to "leave a trail" but for some guys this might be a good deal.

At the end, she even offered a discount too. So while I have NOT seen Joi and I may not ever see Joi this "incident" or review would NOT stop me as I know that everyone connects in different ways with people and any monger should know that YMMV and with most things in live "you get what you pay for".

Sorry for the long diatribe, just call it my nickel instead. Good luck guys and play safe.

[QUOTE=Joi Love] I have the same mother (who by the way was not too long ago on life support), a father who is sick now, brothers and sisters in school and obligations as you so why should I be required to do more when I do what is offered?[/QUOTE]

Cut the woman some slack.......he books a 15 min appointment at 11:30 at night. Screw the house tour!! Be like Gilligan if you want to see the property book "a 3 hour tour" BTW he had been at her place 3 previous times. Sounds like he had a buzzz on.

Seems my report struck a cord. It wasnt even meant to be a negative report. As I said. Excellent skills as always. As for the amount of time I was there. Get real. In your home for 10 to 15 minutes before we started? Oh right. You mean the part about you telling me about the remodeling you were doing and the reason it was being done. Yes I can see where that is part of the time I paid for. Lets see when we finally got started you put some music on which is fine but I also realize this is a way to judge how much time I am there vs. Actually having a clock and within about 3 tunes I was asked to move things along. Those are some long songs I tell you. Now I'm not sure where I wrote that I EXPECTED more time, because I never said that. All I said is that I got rushed when I wasnt even there that long. Sorry you took such offense to this and had to actually create an account to respond to what I posted.

Not here to say "yeh this chich was horrid" or anything of the sort. It was a report about services I recieved. Nothing more. Nothing less. I say again. Your skills are wonderful. Not knocking your services at all nor did I. Just didn't like the whole being timed thing. Sometimes things might take a couple extra minutes and being told I needed to "make it happen" kinda slowed me up a little more. Pretty much a turn off if you know what I mean. In fact it seems I posted something to this affect a little earlier but it seems to have been removed or never made it to the boards for some reason.

If a guy buys 15 minutes she owes him her attention during that time. If he uses a second 15 minutes to get the job done he owes her for the additional 15 minutes. He should fork it over without her having to ask, and he should want her to have it.

This is not a tip. A tip is something else.

P.S. Isn't the nature of a 15 minute appointment "on the clock?"

My post #1518 has absolutely nothing to do with Joi, why you quoted it is beyond me.

If a guy is 10 minutes into a 15 minute session why bust his balls to hurry? He might have been waiting until 14:59 seconds before letting go, after all as you said he paid foryour time and 15 minutes were paid for. In my book he had another 5 minutes to go, why pressure him?

Joi was on another board, she got into a somewhat heated discussion. She got her azz handed to her. She then decided to leave that board and requested all info, reviews, of her removed. That was done.

Joi, I'm a Vet too, doesn't make a difference. Go boo-hoo somewhere else about your personal problems, I've had sick parents along with a lot of other guys here. I'm also footing the bill for two kids in college, you don't see me whining.

Grow up, conduct what you do as a business, change your attitude and please don't throw out the race card out as you have done previously.

You're giving good, no great providers, a bad name. My advice? Buy a pair of sneakers and hit Elmwood ave.

Have a good day,,,