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[QUOTE=DogBert77;4950059]Simple solution to that problem. Don't pay until you have fucked them. That's been a firm rule for me. It works. I had one girl that wanted money as soon as we got to hotel room. I told her it didn't work that way on SA. I compromised by putting the money on a nightstand where she could see it, but I made sure to stay between her and the door until she was naked. That is the furthest I will go.[/QUOTE]Agreed but admittedly I have compromised on that a few times. Only once has it come back to bite me in the ass. Usually by the time you have them alone in the room they are putting out. I have found that putting money on the table tends to make those legs spread a bit easier. Remember that the women are just as scared at getting scammed as us dudes. I have dated a few from SA who have stories of putting out and then the guy refusing to pay. Bottom line you have to read the room and go with your gut.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/798b866a-cb96-4a38-9707-94f0812e465e[/URL]

This one says she dtk but you have to cashapp her first. Haha.

This girl is a big flake. She showed up for coffee M&G and agreed everything including FC. A day before the FC day, I confirmed with her and she did response within 5 minutes. She told me to text her the hotel address whenever I can.

On the FC day, I texted her the address and did not see any responses. I went back to SA website then saw her already blocked me. Watch her out, fellows. Her SA username is Cassie_SD.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/68126b99-bafb-45a1-b5f5-c45a63500ad1[/URL]

This one quoted me $600 PPM and was you willing to negotiate. She was the one that contacted me first! Sorry girl but chubby Asian chicks are a dime a dozen.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7fafdd65-c598-4dfe-b414-a2869c580c42[/URL]

[QUOTE=Snwbdr;4969596]This one quoted me $600 PPM and was you willing to negotiate. She was the one that contacted me first! Sorry girl but chubby Asian chicks are a dime a dozen.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7fafdd65-c598-4dfe-b414-a2869c580c42[/URL][/QUOTE]If you are negotiating price w / a POT online rather than in person, you are going to get her escort / you must be a monster rate. I never do that. But then, I am never looking for an escort-type experience, I want at least the GFE. You can only get that by building a modicum of a relationship w / a girl by online messaging, perhaps a phone call or two, and then the classical M&G. There are definitely UTR escorts on the site who figure that they can jack up their rates from the usual b / c it is a sugar baby site. You just have to figure out which one those are as early as possible. Any girl calling me 'hun' or similar is a tip-off.

[QUOTE=Snwbdr;4969596]This one quoted me $600 PPM and was you willing to negotiate. She was the one that contacted me first! Sorry girl but chubby Asian chicks are a dime a dozen.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7fafdd65-c598-4dfe-b414-a2869c580c42[/URL][/QUOTE]Her profile says "slim" - not true?

Did you get meaningful photos?

I think I talked to her a year ago. She is the sort who will happily hookup right away. I can't recall what she was asking for at the time.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4971123]Her profile says "slim" - not true?

Did you get meaningful photos?

I think I talked to her a year ago. She is the sort who will happily hookup right away. I can't recall what she was asking for at the time.[/QUOTE]Her face is chubby in her initial profile pic. I have found that generally speaking every girl on any dating or escort site is usually fatter than their pics. Every now and then you will be surprised but normally this is the case.

[QUOTE=Habeed;4971409]Her face is chubby in her initial profile pic. I have found that generally speaking every girl on any dating or escort site is usually fatter than their pics. Every now and then you will be surprised but normally this is the case.[/QUOTE]That is simply not correct. I have dated many women from websites and have found many to be better then their pics suggest. Now true their are some who will pose in a flattering way to improve their appearance. If you spend enough time looking you will get an eye and learn to identify those that may be hiding something. Usually blurry photos or women who are always pictured on an angle may be hiding their true body. However, remember that the whole point of SA is women who are trying to be a bit more descreate. You have to take some chances to find the real gems.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4970520]If you are negotiating price w / a POT online rather than in person, you are going to get her escort / you must be a monster rate. I never do that. But then, I am never looking for an escort-type experience, I want at least the GFE. You can only get that by building a modicum of a relationship w / a girl by online messaging, perhaps a phone call or two, and then the classical M&G. There are definitely UTR escorts on the site who figure that they can jack up their rates from the usual b / c it is a sugar baby site. You just have to figure out which one those are as early as possible. Any girl calling me 'hun' or similar is a tip-off.[/QUOTE]Never had a chance to ask for a M&G, she straight up told me that's what she was looking for. I don't discuss sugar online, but rather in person, sometimes thru text.

[QUOTE=Snwbdr;4973417]Never had a chance to ask for a M&G, she straight up told me that's what she was looking for. I don't discuss sugar online, but rather in person, sometimes thru text.[/QUOTE]There are two issues here. If you negotiate PPM rates on seeking, you are vulnerable to getting banned. I'd block her at least, and maybe report her for that. Someone coming at you that way is clearly an escort, if you want that, be my guest, but you have to be careful not to do any further communication through the site. See posts from others, on the LA or Richmond sugar thread, about how painful it is to get banned. They keep track of everything, your credit / debit cards, email, possibly your IP address or MAC address, and if they can tell it's you, they'll ban any new accounts too.

The 2nd point. Even if you are negotiating price via text, you're going to get a $ that assumes the worst case from her perspective. If you have any game at all, and you're talking to a girl who doesn't see herself as an escort (her self-image is the key here), you can get better deals. I am talking (by text) to a cute blond coed from Dana Point, there's no way (based on the whole of my knowledge of her) she thinks she's escorting. Even convincing her to M&G in the coronavirus era is tough. I have only spoken in generalities about $, and she has basically agreed. But if I can't get her to M&G, it won't be consummated.

If you do, then Chloe is a complete natural.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c15d877f-4b6d-4900-b047-96c515ca6b8b[/URL]

Been years since I last saw her, so no idea of SA rates. I am not VIP at present, so can't contact her. Am interested to learn what rate she will go for these days.

Negatives.

- Meaty lips (the other ones). Some folks like that, I don't.

- Was a bit of a druggie back when I saw her.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4974522]If you do, then Chloe is a complete natural.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c15d877f-4b6d-4900-b047-96c515ca6b8b[/URL]

Been years since I last saw her, so no idea of SA rates. I am not VIP at present, so can't contact her. Am interested to learn what rate she will go for these days.

Negatives.

- Meaty lips (the other ones). Some folks like that, I don't.

- Was a bit of a druggie back when I saw her.[/QUOTE]Looks like she is still on drugs by looking from her pictures. I would pass.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4974522]If you do, then Chloe is a complete natural.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c15d877f-4b6d-4900-b047-96c515ca6b8b[/URL]

Been years since I last saw her, so no idea of SA rates. I am not VIP at present, so can't contact her. Am interested to learn what rate she will go for these days.

Negatives.

- Meaty lips (the other ones). Some folks like that, I don't.

- Was a bit of a druggie back when I saw her.[/QUOTE]She's definitely been escorting. Seen those same pics / profile on PD and P411, I believe. As I recall, the "investment" requested was in the 4-6 bills range.

Her photos are old, how is she looking?

Current vibe?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9e83f71d-8bcf-4928-972d-0259b8089536[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6026e094-5808-4f68-91f5-532162723881[/URL]

This one is promising an invite to some local gang bang sex party. Wants to communicate via email and starts asking questions likely trying to phish for personal information. Then will send you a registration email to pay $60 via PayPal. These are the most dangerous types of scams because they don't go over board asking for too much information. But pay attention to the details. Spelling of email addresses, Grammer and overall word choices. After a bit you can figure out this is someone with limited English experience using some white blond girls pictures who is way too hot. Scams come in many shapes and sizes. Also if after the sales pitch they keep sending emails with increasing pressure always a good indication of a scam.