The Woodshed

[QUOTE=StewieGriffin;2875401]The way it has been explained to me by several girls is this. One is they have had trouble with "aa" especially the younger ones so they just do not see any. Some their boyfriends / whatever are black and they do not want them seeing anything but white guys. They say it sounds better to the older white guys who may have more money to say that because it gives a perception that they are safer to deal with.

That is just a couple of the different things I have been told when I have asked.[/QUOTE]Pretty much this. But there is the perception that AAs are less safe, which isn't fair. I find it highly hypocritical that BPers can get their drugs from AAs but not their clients, who are probably less inclined to fuck them over, since they're, ya know, not criminals.

Older white men having more money. That's fair. I still don't get the exclusion of AAs if you're asking for +300/ hr.

That's what my rant is mostly about. That it's rare for upscale providers to be OK with AAs.

[QUOTE=Pseudonymous;2877386]Pretty much this. But there is the perception that AAs are less safe, which isn't fair. I find it highly hypocritical that BPers can get their drugs from AAs but not their clients, who are probably less inclined to fuck them over, since they're, ya know, not criminals.

Older white men having more money. That's fair. I still don't get the exclusion of AAs if you're asking for +300/ hr.

That's what my rant is mostly about. That it's rare for upscale providers to be OK with AAs.[/QUOTE]Yeah, honestly, once you get to about $150 for a QV, you've priced most of the thugs out of the market.

This thing whole "no aa" thing applies to dating sites either. When it comes to some sort of racial commentary in their profiles, women will either say "I do not date black men" or "I only date white men." I have never ever ever seen a post saying that they don't date Hispanics, or Asians or whatever. Blacks are the ones that are singled out. It is what it is. Racism is still live and well, "preferences" be damned.

For what it's worth.

When I see a provider stating "NO AA" in their post, I automatically assume that they HAVE an AA boyfriend / pimp / handler hanging around. There have been many instances where the provider states "NO AA" and then, upon review of their photos you notice an AA male or male body part visible in the background. Randi / Danielle is a good example. When I first started in the hobby about 5 or years ago, she was one of the first providers that I ever contacted from BP, although we never got together. I had contacted her via email. About 6 months after my original contact, I received an email from her where I had been Bcc'ed by mistake. The email came from her personal account so it included her full name. From there, I was able to perform a background check and, you guessed it, she was married to an AA male, even though her ad on BP stated "NO AA". So my question has always been: Why would a provider have contact with AA males in their private life, but not service them in their public life. Beyond that, everyone has the right to discriminate regarding with whom they wish to associate. Or, on the other hand, no one should be forced to associate with someone that is undesirable to them.

Just my two cents.

Shaggy.

[QUOTE=Conceited;2877410]Yeah, honestly, once you get to about $150 for a QV, you've priced most of the thugs out of the market.

This thing whole "no aa" thing applies to dating sites either. When it comes to some sort of racial commentary in their profiles, women will either say "I do not date black men" or "I only date white men." I have never ever ever seen a post saying that they don't date Hispanics, or Asians or whatever. Blacks are the ones that are singled out. It is what it is. Racism is still live and well, "preferences" be damned.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShaggyJax;2877856]For what it's worth.

When I see a provider stating "NO AA" in their post, I automatically assume that they HAVE an AA boyfriend / pimp / handler hanging around. There have been many instances where the provider states "NO AA" and then, upon review of their photos you notice an AA male or male body part visible in the background. Randi / Danielle is a good example. When I first started in the hobby about 5 or years ago, she was one of the first providers that I ever contacted from BP, although we never got together. I had contacted her via email. About 6 months after my original contact, I received an email from her where I had been Bcc'ed by mistake. The email came from her personal account so it included her full name. From there, I was able to perform a background check and, you guessed it, she was married to an AA male, even though her ad on BP stated "NO AA". So my question has always been: Why would a provider have contact with AA males in their private life, but not service them in their public life. Beyond that, everyone has the right to discriminate regarding with whom they wish to associate. Or, on the other hand, no one should be forced to associate with someone that is undesirable to them.

Just my two cents.

Shaggy.[/QUOTE]So maybe the question should be asked to the AA boyfriend / pimp / handler as to why they won't let there providers see AA men?

[QUOTE=Pseudonymous;2877386]Pretty much this. But there is the perception that AAs are less safe, which isn't fair. I find it highly hypocritical that BPers can get their drugs from AAs but not their clients, who are probably less inclined to fuck them over, since they're, ya know, not criminals.

Older white men having more money. That's fair. I still don't get the exclusion of AAs if you're asking for +300/ hr.

That's what my rant is mostly about. That it's rare for upscale providers to be OK with AAs.[/QUOTE]I have to disagree Pseudo, it's not rare at all. I get to 20+ States regularly and what you're seeing as "normal" is largely remnant behavior typical for the South and SE. Other places do have the odd one here and there but, most of the professionals know they can't have any type business and cut off 25% of the possible revenue stream, that's just crazy.

I also reject the premise of roving bands of black men that rob, cheat, kill these poor unsuspecting working girls. The odd one? Maybe but, factually we can easily sus out who does the vast majority of sex crimes. As you said no one ever said I won't see middle aged white men, right? So I'm done with the subject. No response to our members that want to flex their privilege muscle about how wrong I am in my opinion etc, etc. The wrap is this. Any provider not bright enough to decipher me from a kid they are afraid of by text, phone or at the door and it's not specifically racial, is IMHO to dumb for me to risk my standing AND money on. My 2 cents.

Yes, that is who will have some answers for this question. Unfortunately, I don't know any AA boyfriends / pimps / or handlers of our BP providers so someone else will need to fill in the blanks.

[QUOTE=JohnSmith1855;2877901]So maybe the question should be asked to the AA boyfriend / pimp / handler as to why they won't let there providers see AA men?[/QUOTE]

After my last post about the subject "NO AA" I took a look at BP. Danielle / Randi is posting today and stating "NO AA" even though she was married to an AA. Here is the link: [URL]http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exquisite-beauty-come-indulge-in-pure-100-satisfaction/8699145[/URL]. My question remains.

Ask any waitress or SW or anybody who works for tips, and if they are comfortable enough with you to be honest, they will tell you black customers by far are the most demanding and cheapest. These ladies get tired of getting paid the minimum for the maximum effort and putting up with disrespectful attitudes. This isn't me talking. I'm just answering your question based on what I've heard from the women. Even many black SWs won't see AA.

[QUOTE=ShaggyJax;2878201]After my last post about the subject "NO AA" I took a look at BP. Danielle / Randi is posting today and stating "NO AA" even though she was married to an AA. Here is the link: [URL]http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exquisite-beauty-come-indulge-in-pure-100-satisfaction/8699145[/URL]. My question remains.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShaggyJax;2878201]After my last post about the subject "NO AA" I took a look at BP. Danielle / Randi is posting today and stating "NO AA" even though she was married to an AA. Here is the link: [URL]http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exquisite-beauty-come-indulge-in-pure-100-satisfaction/8699145[/URL]. My question remains.[/QUOTE]I ran into her FB profile through another hooked friend weeks back. Sure as shit you are right. Her name is Brandy and.

[QUOTE=ShaggyJax;2878195]Yes, that is who will have some answers for this question. Unfortunately, I don't know any AA boyfriends / pimps / or handlers of our BP providers so someone else will need to fill in the blanks.[/QUOTE]Well personally I don't either but I do think they are the ones setting the ground rules for the providers though. You see it quite a bit here on BP as the providers have AA boyfriends / pimps / or handlers. It vary well could be possible they as in the handlers feel less intimidated by us older white guys and probably rightly so. So all in all there is one area where the problem may lye with many of the providers not seeing AA men.

[QUOTE=CantB1;2878217]I ran into her FB profile through another hooked friend weeks back. Sure as shit you are right. Her name is Brandy and.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShaggyJax;2878201]After my last post about the subject "NO AA" I took a look at BP. Danielle / Randi is posting today and stating "NO AA" even though she was married to an AA. Here is the link: [URL]http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/exquisite-beauty-come-indulge-in-pure-100-satisfaction/8699145[/URL]. My question remains.[/QUOTE]I am guessing you are assuming that he is Black / AA because of his complexion. Don't worry, you are not alone most Americans base Black and White by the shade of your skin. I only learned of these two when came to America, where I am from it is difficult to assume what a person is by the shade of their skin. Even JSO don't know what he is, not that it really matters to them.

[QUOTE=OldSchool;2878534]I am guessing you are assuming that he is Black / AA because of his complexion. Don't worry, you are not alone most Americans base Black and White by the shade of your skin. I only learned of these two when came to America, where I am from it is difficult to assume what a person is by the shade of their skin. Even JSO don't know what he is, not that it really matters to them.[/QUOTE]Hopefully this is the end of this topic. I'm sure it will come up again and again. There is so much pussy for sale why get mad about a few that are petty. And upscale hookers don't post on BP. And the majority of these BP ads have very little truth in advertising. We are only going to buss a nut not jump the broom with these providers. A smart hooked will capitalize off the mistakes of others.

[URL]http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-see-black-men-upscale-discreet-and-your-personal-girl-next-door-9044158185/9167693[/URL]

[QUOTE=RawrRider;2878209]Ask any waitress or SW or anybody who works for tips, and if they are comfortable enough with you to be honest, they will tell you black customers by far are the most demanding and cheapest. These ladies get tired of getting paid the minimum for the maximum effort and putting up with disrespectful attitudes. This isn't me talking. I'm just answering your question based on what I've heard from the women. Even many black SWs won't see AA.[/QUOTE]Actually the opposite is true. AA customers (in restaurants) tip around the average to above average because of the stereotype.

Can't say for a strip clubs or any other service though.

Regarding the link below, that is a provider I'd actually be interested in seeing. But once again, I can't. I do respect provider preference and have never called one to convince them otherwise or tried to trick them that I was white. I just don't call.

I'm not into SWans as much as I was in the past. Thought I do more BP action but it's limited. Not bitching about it, probably just means it's time go back to civilians only, either that or go to a different country (and they still may not want AAs, anybody got any experiences in foreign country mongering?)

[QUOTE=Pseudonymous;2878753]Actually the opposite is true. AA customers (in restaurants) tip around the average to above average because of the stereotype.

Can't say for a strip clubs or any other service though.

Regarding the link below, that is a provider I'd actually be interested in seeing. But once again, I can't. I do respect provider preference and have never called one to convince them otherwise or tried to trick them that I was white. I just don't call.

I'm not into SWans as much as I was in the past. Thought I do more BP action but it's limited. Not bitching about it, probably just means it's time go back to civilians only, either that or go to a different country (and they still may not want AAs, anybody got any experiences in foreign country mongering?)[/QUOTE]

If you go overseas go to Belgium or Poland. I'm telling you those ladies love Americans in General but they extra love their chocolate men. You don't even need to monger...

I know it's not right at all but this is not traditional business model. These girls can pick and choose. For example the provider you speak of takes her pick of respectful guys.

If you contact her acting like an idiot, she will just ignore you. If you talk crude, she will ignore you, before ever asking a skin color. Heck if you just say something she doesn't like she will not see you. In the end it is her choice as with all these ladies. Her ex is most definitely not AA but yes he is not of the standard Caucasian variety.

[QUOTE=Pseudonymous;2878753]Actually the opposite is true. AA customers (in restaurants) tip around the average to above average because of the stereotype.

Can't say for a strip clubs or any other service though.

Regarding the link below, that is a provider I'd actually be interested in seeing. But once again, I can't. I do respect provider preference and have never called one to convince them otherwise or tried to trick them that I was white. I just don't call.

I'm not into SWans as much as I was in the past. Thought I do more BP action but it's limited. Not bitching about it, probably just means it's time go back to civilians only, either that or go to a different country (and they still may not want AAs, anybody got any experiences in foreign country mongering?)[/QUOTE]I was born up north in a big city, in a part that was very racially diverse, so The color of ones skin has never been an issue to me or does that play a factor in my opinion of someone. There are just as meny ghetto white people as there are any race. Not trying to get into a racial debate here but in my experience when I worked at a restaurant as a waiter the AA families that came in were generally low tippers. I never gave them sub par service compared to others I waited on but it was what it was. Now I also personally think that the providers that post "no AA" generally have a someone managing them and the manager doesn't want them to see AA because they might try and convince the girl to come work for them. I knew a girl a few years ago I was really close with that supported herself by providing and she would show me all the texts that guys would send her promising everything to her trying to get her to come work for them and be on their "team".