Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=MallGuy101;6537998]You know it's getting bad when the fake ads can't even get it right. This ad [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/147119277[/URL] has the title Sweet Sexy Ebony🌸 Available Incalls In Kent OR Outcalls CAR Fan and see the photo in the ad below.[/QUOTE]I notice ads like that daily—and have for awhile. Snow White with descriptions that say ebony. They also have other slightly off descriptions like "secret fuck" or "specially your own style. ".

[QUOTE=MallGuy101;6537998]You know it's getting bad when the fake ads can't even get it right. This ad [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/147119277[/URL] has the title Sweet Sexy Ebony🌸 Available Incalls In Kent OR Outcalls CAR Fan and see the photo in the ad below.[/QUOTE]You can also tell if the ads are fake if they advertise 'bareback' and 'Greek'.

MzMeadow, regular member, no posts, is spamming inboxes with the message below. No idea who this is. Blocked. Deleted. Tried to report to Admin but system wouldn't let it happen. Posted here as a warning. No interest in this whatever it is.

Hey my name is Amber, I have been around for years, some love me and some love to hate me cause I screen and make sure I'm not haggled, but all and all I have great reviews on ter some in here, but a lot are from a few years ago and not recent (on here) either way if you are ever in Cincinnati in the casino area, I am always availible as long as I'm in town, my TL (twitter) usually is up to date as far as what's going on with me as well as recent pics, let me know, thanks 😍.

Amber Meadow.

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[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;6540528]MzMeadow, regular member, no posts, is spamming inboxes with the message below. No idea who this is. Blocked. Deleted. Tried to report to Admin but system wouldn't let it happen. Posted here as a warning. No interest in this whatever it is.

Hey my name is Amber, I have been around for years, some love me and some love to hate me cause I screen and make sure I'm not haggled, but all and all I have great reviews on ter some in here, but a lot are from a few years ago and not recent (on here) either way if you are ever in Cincinnati in the casino area, I am always availible as long as I'm in town, my TL (twitter) usually is up to date as far as what's going on with me as well as recent pics, let me know, thanks 😍.

Amber Meadow.

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BookAmberMeadow at _.[/QUOTE]That's if pics are accurate. Would have seen her but she didn't offer what I was looking for, at least for appropriate donation.

$700 appears to be the new $500. $500 was the new $350 this time last year. I saw two Ohio based providers on Tryst yesterday that want $700 an hr. I wouldn't f*ck either of them for more than $250. If you're worth that much, fine but neither of these chicks should be commanding any more than 350. Big fat asses are the flavor of the day, commanding top dollar. Thanks Kardashians.

Sophia Rose, Candy Apple, Anastaszja and some of the other familiar faces have kept their pricing consistent so props to them.

Ryann still five bills. God bless whoever is paying that. Jackie Ohhh has zero positive reviews and wants 300. F*cking delusional pricing.

We need a recession!

[QUOTE=MarblesKyle;6564023]$700 appears to be the new $500. $500 was the new $350 this time last year. I saw two Ohio based providers on Tryst yesterday that want $700 an hr. I wouldn't f*ck either of them for more than $250. If you're worth that much, fine but neither of these chicks should be commanding any more than 350. Big fat asses are the flavor of the day, commanding top dollar. Thanks Kardashians.

Sophia Rose, Candy Apple, Anastaszja and some of the other familiar faces have kept their pricing consistent so props to them.

Ryann still five bills. God bless whoever is paying that. Jackie Ohhh has zero positive reviews and wants 300. F*cking delusional pricing.

We need a recession![/QUOTE]She travels- so I assume it is mostly a 1 and done. Age is wrong / misleading. For her age she isn't bad looking when she packs the makeup on and still clothed. Had a serious gps syndrome though.

This is a quslestion more out of curiosity, but with the price increasingly going up. Do the regulars keep paying the increase or do they keep the same?

[QUOTE=TapThat;6564067]She travels- so I assume it is mostly a 1 and done. Age is wrong / misleading. For her age she isn't bad looking when she packs the makeup on and still clothed. Had a serious gps syndrome though.

This is a quslestion more out of curiosity, but with the price increasingly going up. Do the regulars keep paying the increase or do they keep the same?[/QUOTE]I've seen everyone I mentioned except Sophia, but they've all had consistent pricing over the last few years. I only saw Ryann and Candy through EE, at the much more reasonable price of $$. 5. I keep saying ill pull the trigger on Candy, she gets great reviews and it seems like the drug stuff was rumors started by Steve, or those days are behind her. Maybe soon. 4 bills is steep for what I experienced 3 years ago but everything is more expensive now.

When Ryann made the independent jump up to 350 I was out. It's only climbed from there. Good for her if it's working for her.

Normally would never spend any time replying to a post that is over a month old, but this got me so tickled that I had to.

I mean, you completely ignored several things that I said, but.

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;6520186]That asshole came into the SW section with a condescending holier than thou attitude and insulted us when he does not even contribute there at all. [/QUOTE]I didn't really read it as an insult or condescending, but OK, I get how someone who was really sensitive might take that from it, I guess?

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;6520186]I simply pointed out that he is not better than anybody else and that if you think you are you're very wrong because the whole goddamn pool of pussy is all the same no matter where you go! Anyone that is playing and is getting more than a hand job (covered or not) is at the same damn risk level and it's actually safer on the streets because at least 80% of the action is just blow job only which is the statistically safer than any kind of full-service covered or not! But the FS AMP's and the hotel girls are just about 100% FS which is significantly higher risk (covered or not).[/QUOTE]Same risk level, yes absolutely. But that also means that it isn't "safer on the streets". What you're trying to say is that BJ's are safer than FS, which is almost always true from an STD standpoint, yeah. That said, if you think hotel girls are 100% full service, you've been out of the loop for bit, sir. Plenty of these mongers just go there to get BJs and pay more because they don't want to do it in a car. Which, if we're talking about risk, is about 10000% riskier from a LEO standpoint.

Also, statistically, CFS isn't really that risky, frankly. More of a gamble than getting a BJ, to be sure, but stop talking like we're going to get full-blown AIDS through a condom. LOL.

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell]Not to mention the fact that half of these "hotel girls" that everyone thinks is safe are former street walkers and still have a drug habit. Some perfect examples are Anna from Kentucky, Joy, Jordan, and Kiersten are all former street walkers. They just have a smart phone now and they all offer bareback services too! Fact.[/QUOTE]Fact: No one in this conversation thinks any provider is "safe", and that has been stated to you multiple times. You are arguing with the straw-est of strawmen. And yes, any monger that's been doing this for longer than the first time knows they're almost all on drugs.

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;6520186]In addition, all "regular providers" have a much higher overhead than SW's do. The hotel rooms aren't cheap. Food delivery etc. The traveling ladies all have airfare and Ubers or car rentals on top of that. Higher overhead even at higher rates means more volume just to cover expenses. More volume is higher risk. The bareback guys push for it, give excuses or pay more. That increases everyone's risk level. The AMP guys that go to Sakura etc are dabbling with a lady that has more customers in one day than an SW does all week and at a higher risk too. Even the ladies that have a reputation of covered everything break those rules for their regulars or someone that pays them enough.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the econ lesson Professor, but the thing is, the hotel is really the only operational cost that the hotel girls have that SW don't, that I can think of, and I challenge the notion that hotel girls do that much more volume than SW's, and I DEFINITELY challenge the notion that bareback is somehow something that hotel and AMP girls do and SW don't do. Of all the hotel girls and SW that I've been conversational with over the last 15 or so years, I've consistently had the opposite picture painted to me, to be honest. Now, that's not proof of anything, they all lie and omit shit all the time, but there's not really a good reason for a girl to lie when she says "I saw more guys as a SW than I did at the Red Roof Inn" either. They know I don't care. And as for BB, frankly, we should all assume that everyone we see does BB all the time and act accordingly. You couldn't pay me to fuck any provider raw, regardless of where she works. And again, this isn't news.

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;6520186]So all of you self centered idiots that think you're better need to realize that you ain't. Wake the fuck up.[/QUOTE]The only person who said anything about anyone being better than anyone else was you. Get off of your horse LOL.

[QUOTE=Vilnius;6564106]Normally would never spend any time replying to a post that is over a month old, but this got me so tickled that I had to.

I mean, you completely ignored several things that I said, but.

I didn't really read it as an insult or condescending, but OK, I get how someone who was really sensitive might take that from it, I guess?

Same risk level, yes absolutely. But that also means that it isn't "safer on the streets". What you're trying to say is that BJ's are safer than FS, which is almost always true from an STD standpoint, yeah. That said, if you think hotel girls are 100% full service, you've been out of the loop for bit, sir. Plenty of these mongers just go there to get BJs and pay more because they don't want to do it in a car. Which, if we're talking about risk, is about 10000% riskier from a LEO standpoint.

Also, statistically, CFS isn't really that risky, frankly. More of a gamble than getting a BJ, to be sure, but stop talking like we're going to get full-blown AIDS through a condom. LOL.

Fact: No one in this conversation thinks any provider is "safe", and that has been stated to you multiple times. You are arguing with the straw-est of strawmen. And yes, any monger that's been doing this for longer than the first time knows they're almost all on drugs.

Thanks for the econ lesson Professor, but the thing is, the hotel is really the only operational cost that the hotel girls have that SW don't, that I can think of, and I challenge the notion that hotel girls do that much more volume than SW's, and I DEFINITELY challenge the notion that bareback is somehow something that hotel and AMP girls do and SW don't do. Of all the hotel girls and SW that I've been conversational with over the last 15 or so years, I've consistently had the opposite picture painted to me, to be honest. Now, that's not proof of anything, they all lie and omit shit all the time, but there's not really a good reason for a girl to lie when she says "I saw more guys as a SW than I did at the Red Roof Inn" either. They know I don't care. And as for BB, frankly, we should all assume that everyone we see does BB all the time and act accordingly. You couldn't pay me to fuck any provider raw, regardless of where she works. And again, this isn't news.

The only person who said anything about anyone being better than anyone else was you. Get off of your horse LOL.[/QUOTE]Remember 80% of all statistics are made up. This is a prime example.

[QUOTE=MarblesKyle;6564023]$700 appears to be the new $500. $500 was the new $350 this time last year. I saw two Ohio based providers on Tryst yesterday that want $700 an hr. I wouldn't f*ck either of them for more than $250. If you're worth that much, fine but neither of these chicks should be commanding any more than 350. Big fat asses are the flavor of the day, commanding top dollar. Thanks Kardashians.

Sophia Rose, Candy Apple, Anastaszja and some of the other familiar faces have kept their pricing consistent so props to them.

Ryann still five bills. God bless whoever is paying that. Jackie Ohhh has zero positive reviews and wants 300. F*cking delusional pricing.

We need a recession![/QUOTE]Yes I agree that most of these ladies charge more than they are worth. But just like you have the right to complain they can charge what they want.

So a lady charges 250 she has to see to guys to make 500. If she charges 500 she only has to see one. These ladies would prefer to see less guys and make the same money.

You need to blame the mongers that pay these high prices. I have decreased my visits and am much more selective. Even the ladies that charge 150 to 250 are not worth it because their service is terrible.

There is only one person you can control.

[QUOTE=RufusFirefly;6565144]Remember 80% of all statistics are made up. This is a prime example.[/QUOTE]Including this one LOL.

[QUOTE=RufusFirefly;6565153]You need to blame the mongers that pay these high prices.[/QUOTE]I thought that was implied, sorry. If you're paying 700 to tap some pasty PAWG for 40 minutes, get f*cked.

[QUOTE=MarblesKyle;6565874]I thought that was implied, sorry. If you're paying 700 to tap some pasty PAWG for 40 minutes, get f*cked.[/QUOTE]Dude I have never paid 700. The most I have ever paid was 350 and that is when I was inexperienced and got caught up in an upsale.

I have been trying to find a provider since my regular retired in January. The problem I am having is most that I contact only do CBJ. Thalia did say the second visit would be different but still would have to pay for a covered blow job. I just can't bring myself to pay for a CBJ. Is anybody else having the same problem? I know its tough just to find anybody these days covered or other.

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave;6569112]I have been trying to find a provider since my regular retired in January. The problem I am having is most that I contact only do CBJ. Thalia did say the second visit would be different but still would have to pay for a covered blow job. I just can't bring myself to pay for a CBJ. Is anybody else having the same problem? I know its tough just to find anybody these days covered or other.[/QUOTE]Kandee Apple gives a great BBBJ.