Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=MallGuy101;6512784]Rant.

I am so sick and tired of all the ads that say I don't play game so don't you either. Then when you check them out they are running ads in 20 other cities, or don't waist my time and I will not waist yours. I don't really have a problem if they don't respond. I know many of them may get several hundred texts during the day and their schedule maybe filled. What really pisses me off is when they text back and I respond with in 1 minute and they don't get back to me again for hours, to me that is inexcusable. I am at the point were I text them and tell them you don't want it done to you than what are you doing it to others. It may duin any chance if seeing them but I don't care. The only one that ever apologized was an escort in dayton Ruggiez. She made it right but saw her about two months ago had a great time and for some reason you will not longer respond to me. Had a real scam artist last week thought she could pull a fast one. We texted back and forth she was very accommodating I made it very plain that I never give deposits / or prepay and only give donations after done playing she asked for a picture and I sent one of my late brother. She sent address get there and asks for picture proving I was there than asked for onem showing the front of hotel. Then she starts saying she need me to send up some good faith money. There was a guy walking around in a black tee shirt saying security I figure he is not really security he the messenger. I told her know then she sends pictures trying to entice me. I text back what part of me sayin no deposit no prepay did you not understand. Sent another picture trying to get the money and saying I promise I will give you room number. I told her to go screw herself and left. But not in those words. I did leave a report in the escort section. I am getting up in years and don't function as well as I once did. With all the scam artists and woman with GPS I may just stay with a couple of providers that have been around for years, and stop looking for greener grass or just retire from the sport.[/QUOTE]I have seen more and more of this going on. Not only what you have mentioned but they are asking for more money than they are worth. I am a nice guy and stick with ladies that provide good service for a reasonable price. I also treat the girl well.

I have been seeing ladies that I know and massage parlors. What I like about massage parlors is I do not have to make an appointment. I get a nice massage. Yes I only get a HJ usually but I enjoy my relaxing time with no games. If you live in Cincinnati you can drive to Lexington for good massage parlors.

Sofia is available in Dayton until Monday and she is very good. I have seen her many times.

For all of you so called mongers that seem to think that you're "too good" to deal with the streets. You are apparently either ignorant or have your head in the sand. All mongers play in the same pool of pussy and like a swimming pool what happens in one end (shallow or deep) affects the whole pool not just one tiny area. You may think that since you stay in the safe shallow end (hotel escorts or AMPs) that you're good But you simply have to understand that there are HUNDREDS of guys that do the streets, AMP's and the hotel escorts (even high end) and you're sadly mistaken if you think you're better than anyone that does admit to street actions. Others do it and just don't post about it. Some guys will do anything on two legs and some on four. They'll even bareback them all too. Most mongers hate the providers that say covered Everything but if you think that the risk is lesser since it's not the street you're so wrong it's not even funny. Too many ladies will either say a) you're married, you're clean and offer bare back. B) if the guy takes too long covered will switch to bareback to finish faster or c) charge extra for bareback and all of the ladies that do even one bareback has done many that way (no you're not special). So wake up, face reality that the WHOLE POOL OF PUSSY is all connected.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;6498580]Thanks for the reminder why I go nowhere near street walkers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RufusFirefly;6513075]I have been seeing ladies that I know and massage parlors. What I like about massage parlors is I do not have to make an appointment. I get a nice massage. Yes I only get a HJ usually but I enjoy my relaxing time with no games. If you live in Cincinnati you can drive to Lexington for good massage parlors.[/QUOTE]Rufus I believe you misspelled Louisville. Louisville is way better for AMPs than Lexington, read the forums there specifically for Stone spa amd Sun Spa.

Golfguy, playing through.

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;6515074]For all of you so called mongers that seem to think that you're "too good" to deal with the streets. You are apparently either ignorant or have your head in the sand. All mongers play in the same pool of pussy and like a swimming pool what happens in one end (shallow or deep) affects the whole pool not just one tiny area. You may think that since you stay in the safe shallow end (hotel escorts or AMPs) that you're good But you simply have to understand that there are HUNDREDS of guys that do the streets, AMP's and the hotel escorts (even high end) and you're sadly mistaken if you think you're better than anyone that does admit to street actions. Others do it and just don't post about it. Some guys will do anything on two legs and some on four. They'll even bareback them all too. Most mongers hate the providers that say covered Everything but if you think that the risk is lesser since it's not the street you're so wrong it's not even funny. Too many ladies will either say a) you're married, you're clean and offer bare back. B) if the guy takes too long covered will switch to bareback to finish faster or c) charge extra for bareback and all of the ladies that do even one bareback has done many that way (no you're not special). So wake up, face reality that the WHOLE POOL OF PUSSY is all connected.[/QUOTE]Thanks for re-enforcing why I go nowhere near street hookers.

Just stick your head back in the sand and pretend you're safe but anyone with a few brain cells to rub together will realize that unless you find a unicorn of a true utr extremely low level provider that plays safe you're at the mercy of all the other mongers and their actions as well. So those AMP guys that do daty and go bareback are also doing others and it'll always be that way. With the street action like 80% or more is just BJ action anyways. Just keep telling yourself that you're fine LOL.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;6515875]Thanks for re-enforcing why I go nowhere near street hookers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;6516753]Just stick your head back in the sand and pretend you're safe but anyone with a few brain cells to rub together will realize that unless you find a unicorn of a true utr extremely low level provider that plays safe you're at the mercy of all the other mongers and their actions as well. So those AMP guys that do daty and go bareback are also doing others and it'll always be that way. With the street action like 80% or more is just BJ action anyways. Just keep telling yourself that you're fine LOL.[/QUOTE]He didn't ever say anything about being safe. The original comment was about a toothy BJ from a toothless SW. How you made the jump from that "You think you're too good for street pussy" is fucking wild to me. Also, I do hope that you're not arguing that there is the same level of risk in meeting a SW in LPH in your car as there is in going to a provider's non-notel incall. Could you get an STD in either situation? Yeah, sure, but I'll take my chances on the girl that still has it together enough to get her teeth fixed. Not to mention the fact that one thing is definitely more likely to get you robbed than the other. Nothing we do is "safe", but there are definitely degrees to it. Stop acting like there aren't LOL.

Because I created it. Use it, gents, when you're looking to, um, promote (or pimp) your UTRs. It seems even if you do direct people to DMs, they post their pleas for UTR pussy in the escort reviews thread anyway, because your mailbox will fill up. I think posting UTR notices and doing all that hoo-hah in the UTR thread will organize things better.

First of all these are women new to the business or should be. They get interested and ask for help. WDG do you know what a pimp is?? I doubt it. I receive nothing from helping them. Most of us complain about no new talent and when you find one and post it some asshole makes a new thread and tells us to use it. If there's a issue with it Admin would step in. WDG my advice to you is to keep hunting you Listcrawler girls and be happy with that.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;6519545]Because I created it. Use it, gents, when you're looking to, um, promote (or pimp) your UTRs. It seems even if you do direct people to DMs, they post their pleas for UTR pussy in the escort reviews thread anyway, because your mailbox will fill up. I think posting UTR notices and doing all that hoo-hah in the UTR thread will organize things better.[/QUOTE]Much needed. Good idea.

Hornyashell and I have been at each other off and on for years. I read his report and totally agree with it. He truly stated the facts the way it is. Thank you for your input and truth. Your views are almost exactly like mine. You will never hear negative comments from me about you again. And I still use my Camaro LOL.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;6519545]Because I created it. Use it, gents, when you're looking to, um, promote (or pimp) your UTRs. It seems even if you do direct people to DMs, they post their pleas for UTR pussy in the escort reviews thread anyway, because your mailbox will fill up. I think posting UTR notices and doing all that hoo-hah in the UTR thread will organize things better.[/QUOTE]Good idea. Thanks for stepping up.

BAM.

That asshole came into the SW section with a condescending holier than thou attitude and insulted us when he does not even contribute there at all.

I simply pointed out that he is not better than anybody else and that if you think you are you're very wrong because the whole goddamn pool of pussy is all the same no matter where you go! Anyone that is playing and is getting more than a hand job (covered or not) is at the same damn risk level and it's actually safer on the streets because at least 80% of the action is just blow job only which is the statistically safer than any kind of full-service covered or not! But the FS AMP's and the hotel girls are just about 100% FS which is significantly higher risk (covered or not).

Not to mention the fact that half of these "hotel girls" that everyone thinks is safe are former street walkers and still have a drug habit. Some perfect examples are Anna from Kentucky, Joy, Jordan, and Kiersten are all former street walkers. They just have a smart phone now and they all offer bareback services too! Fact.

In addition, all "regular providers" have a much higher overhead than SW's do. The hotel rooms aren't cheap. Food delivery etc. The traveling ladies all have airfare and Ubers or car rentals on top of that. Higher overhead even at higher rates means more volume just to cover expenses. More volume is higher risk. The bareback guys push for it, give excuses or pay more. That increases everyone's risk level. The AMP guys that go to Sakura etc are dabbling with a lady that has more customers in one day than an SW does all week and at a higher risk too. Even the ladies that have a reputation of covered everything break those rules for their regulars or someone that pays them enough.

So all of you self centered idiots that think you're better need to realize that you ain't. Wake the fuck up.

[QUOTE=Vilnius;6517312]He didn't ever say anything about being safe. The original comment was about a toothy BJ from a toothless SW. How you made the jump from that "You think you're too good for street pussy" is fucking wild to me. Also, I do hope that you're not arguing that there is the same level of risk in meeting a SW in LPH in your car as there is in going to a provider's non-notel incall. Could you get an STD in either situation? Yeah, sure, but I'll take my chances on the girl that still has it together enough to get her teeth fixed. Not to mention the fact that one thing is definitely more likely to get you robbed than the other. Nothing we do is "safe", but there are definitely degrees to it. Stop acting like there aren't LOL.[/QUOTE]

Do why'all hate it when you get everything setup with a girl and you ask for her location / address and she responds with what area she is in. For example:

Me:"What's your address?

Her:"I'm in Clifton. ".

Me:"Cool, where at in Clifton?

Her:"At my apartment / House. ".

Me:" Oh thanks, that totally helps. I guess I'll just knock on every door in Clifton until I find yours".

It could just be me but this shit pisses me off. I just end up saying fuck it and look elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Space80;6522195]Do why'all hate it when you get everything setup with a girl and you ask for her location / address and she responds with what area she is in. For example:

Me:"What's your address?

Her:"I'm in Clifton. ".

Me:"Cool, where at in Clifton?

Her:"At my apartment / House. ".

Me:" Oh thanks, that totally helps. I guess I'll just knock on every door in Clifton until I find yours".

It could just be me but this shit pisses me off. I just end up saying fuck it and look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
Most escorts will not give you exact location until you get there for various reasons. Some want to see or have there look out see what kind of car you drive up in, Another they do not want you walking up to the door unannounced. There previous customer my still be there or they need time to clean up. When I start my conversations with an escort one of the first general questions I ask I'd what area they are in. I tell them so its I get an idea how far away they are. Than if we have gotten to the point we want to get together. I say could you give me an address of were or near where your at so I can put into my GPS so that why I can tell you how long it will take me to get there. If it's the first meeting I give a later time than the GPS says so I can scope the place out and to see if there might be an unwanted surprise waiting. Than once I am there I will text and ask what is the room number. I never expect to get the room number till I get there would you want an escort coming up to your house / room unannounced and banging on your door. And from years of experience over 90% of the escorts that do out calls arrive over 10 minuets later they told you and over 90% of the escorts are not ready once you get there.

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;6520186]That asshole came into the SW section with a condescending holier than thou attitude and insulted us when he does not even contribute there at all.

I simply pointed out that he is not better than anybody else and that if you think you are you're very wrong because the whole goddamn pool of pussy is all the same no matter where you go! Anyone that is playing and is getting more than a hand job (covered or not) is at the same damn risk level and it's actually safer on the streets because at least 80% of the action is just blow job only which is the statistically safer than any kind of full-service covered or not! But the FS AMP's and the hotel girls are just about 100% FS which is significantly higher risk (covered or not).

Not to mention the fact that half of these "hotel girls" that everyone thinks is safe are former street walkers and still have a drug habit. Some perfect examples are Anna from Kentucky, Joy, Jordan, and Kiersten are all former street walkers. They just have a smart phone now and they all offer bareback services too! Fact.

In addition, all "regular providers" have a much higher overhead than SW's do. The hotel rooms aren't cheap. Food delivery etc. The traveling ladies all have airfare and Ubers or car rentals on top of that. Higher overhead even at higher rates means more volume just to cover expenses. More volume is higher risk. The bareback guys push for it, give excuses or pay more.[/QUOTE]Funny guy.