[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;7155136]Great score, and congrats...must be sweet. But did you get her for 200 ppm the first time, or is just the repeat price? Sure once you bang a girl once or twice, and they know you are safe and not creepy, then you can often negotiate a lower price for subsequent meets. But we are mainly talking about first meet, here.
And sure, 1 in 1000 hot instagram models on Seeking would take 200 ppm for first visit, but not much more than that.
It seems to me that 300 (plus hotel) is now the usual baseline for 8+ girls. Maybe even 7+. Yes you can get some 6's and 7's for 200, maybe, if you contact hundreds of them. And contacting hundreds of them not a bad strategy, although certainly time consuming.
But I doubt many hot girls are ok with less than 300 on first visit. I mean like less than 5% of them, or somewhere in that area. More and more of them want 400 minimum, even the homely ones. I have no idea how many guys go for that, but if you have to negotiate too hard with them, then less likely they will provide good service. But perhaps that is not a huge factor.
Anyway, you make good points not to overpay, but it isn't that clear what price point "overpaying" begins at, with different classes of girl.[/QUOTE]The post you're responding to is a from a few months ago, so I'm no longer seeing that particularly hottie, but to answer your question, it's was 200 plus hotel since the initial date.
I think someone can get hot girls for less than 300 quite easily, but most guy don't want to put in the time / effort to do it. I think over 300 is overpaying, even for an 8+. Why? Simple: these girls will fuck guys for free. If they fuck a guy for free then they'll certainly fuck me for $, and if they fuck one guy for free then anything better than free is good LOL.
It's not hard, but it is time consuming, and you'll certainly occasionally miss out on some girls or a possible "sure thing. " Most guys don't want to put in the time and effort to get to know someone well enough that you can convince them they WANT to fuck you. Even if you're not traditionally attractive. Be a decent conversationalist, put some effort into learning about them, and act interested. You mention 1 in 1000 hot instagram models, but what about 1 in 1000 dudes who just treat these girls like they're wh*res? If your conversations are simple, direct, and focused on $ and fucking, then you're going to have to pay more, because at that point they are an escort. Escorts have a fee to fuck guys they wouldn't normally fuck. If you take the time to talk to them like a potential girlfriend, you're already ahead of the 1000 other guys that messaged them "hey" followed by "ph# followed by a text "how much?
It's more time consuming. But if you do it right and they actually WANT to fuck you, you can basically pay whatever you want.
My current SB is 150 plus hotel. Now in all fairness she's nowhere near as hot as my little wannabe insta-model from this past summer / fall, but she's closer to me and saves me driving to Atlanta, so I'm ok that she's not as cute.
