Massage Parlor Reports

I haven't been there since December. I had been there 8 or 10 times with the same girl(Lisa)After 5 sessions I asked about take out. " No, I don't know you". Those girls in my opinion are very watchful of one another. They don't want to upset the apple cart. They don't want to be caught or accused of anything other then the norm. They don't want to be fired.

Rick

[QUOTE=DaddysLookin]The afternoon turned into work to be mailed out this evening, so I dropped it off at the turnkey in Providence.

I crossed the bridge to visit CH (since Donna baby says it is open).

I arrive, only car in the neighborhood and walk over, the lower door opens and I am told the ladies were all out at dinner and will be back at 7:30 (it was six at the time). I take off. Business has gotta be good.

I travel up the street, past Lilly's to see if Jennifer was back yet. She was not. Not looking good at Sun Flower.

I come back to Lilly's and am the only live monger there and ask for the line up. There were 7 on staff and I got Sarah, the tall K-girl.

TS went fine, massage was good with a complimentary back walk and a descent HR.

It occurred to me this evening why Lilly's was a safe place to go and will never be raided or have any problems. The girls just naturally go into the HE without discussion. There is no mention of anything, especially money by anyone. I tipped her $50 and was trying to cop a grab here and there without success. She accepted the cash, and did not even count it or really look at it. She just left it on the bed and walked me out. Everybody knows so why discuss anything? I think it is a winning strategy under the new law. No one is solicited for anything at all, if you do not want the HE, let her know and if you do not tip, she takes it on the chin....all circumventing the new law. They should ry this at ONE...lol.

I was a bit surprised at the staff as none of them were knockouts, they were average looking Asians, not that I would not bang them anyway.

I am curious, has anyone ever gotten take out from Lilly's? I asked Sarah if she was willing to perform a massage at my home and she declined. She was friendly enough though. It would be great to get one out of that environment.

I was told business was wayyyy off. Anyway, perhaps my 4th try at CH will bring some success. Who knows.[/QUOTE]

While my most recent visit with Miss Lane was exceptional, it was a single SOG.
I had some serious 'reserves' built up and like a Chinese food dinner, a half hour later I was 'famished'.
Already being in RI (on an early weeknight), I contemplate what could be and decide in the affirmative.
So it's off the the ATM, exit 25 and Derry St I go.
CH has, by far, the best facilties in my experience.
The wet sauna is awesome (reason I went there so much in my early monger days).

A quick knock on the door has the lower side door opening and a tall, elegant young woman saying 'Hi, be right there'.
She then opens the main door and bids me to enter.
Jesus, I'm hoping she 'serves', but no dice.
After 'signing in', Yoyo comes through the curtain.
Very non K-girl face (maybe an Anglo parent) and heavy-ish body leaves me unimpressed as does her attitude.
My guess is mid thirties, 5'5'', approx 140 lbs, shoulder length hair.
Hoped things would get better during 'relaxation'.

I asked for a steam, but was told it is shutdown nightly at 11:00 (11:20 BTW) "come back tomorrow for steam"; not going well.
Very quick, marginal tblshwr and dry sauna (also the best IMH; very large) finds me back in the room receiving a quick, pressing-style massage; another strike.
The inevitable question we all wait for comes (answered in the affirmative) and her leaving/returning act accomplished finds her disrobing before me.
Her thick legs current state lead me to believe she may have 'calfed' recently, but she was quite nicely built and I was 'enthused'.

A fairly nice oral presentation (with K-girl cover application and a stern 'NO' to my DATY offer) led to some girl on top, K9 (flat too) and a mish end with zero intimacy.

A quick cleaup of jjr and she's turning up the light/offering me water (time elapsed - 25 mins tops).
This job is not her calling and I will hesitate to return.

More to follow,

J

Having just left my Yoyo experience, I'm sitting in my truck wishing I used my big head, saved $10 (coup) and went to OS.
Not to mention dropping some out-of-my-norm coin (as well as 2 sack-filling shots) has me unhappy in the interim, but reflection on my earlier escapades with VL jolts me back to reality (even contemplated calling her for another session, but I knew she was tired/probably asleep).
What's the solution to all that ails me/you, you ask?!?
Yes, Atwells Ave exit is indeed the answer.
So, that calls for yet another ATM trip (reminds me of a time I had another 'habit' that caused me to hit ATM's multiple times, late at night).
A quick drive has me climbing up to see these lovely ladies yet again (and I was not to be disappointed).

Door opens and Angie is waiting with chair in hand (I'm in line, Jesus it's past midnight on Tuesday).
Quick conversation and she's stopping others in the outer area; then more outside the door.

Next moment Kitty comes around the corner (YES!) in all her glory and remembers me (big kiss/hug).
A moment later she disappears and what follows is a procession of the girls (every few minutes) individually for a M&G (anyone else experience this?).
All were high 8's/9's in the looks dept; brief description below:

Nana- short hair, strong bodied 5 ft, w/ B/sm C's
Tiffany- shoulder length brown hair, 5'3", perfect w/ B's
Shishi (I think)- same as Tiffany
Stephanie- shoulder length, 5'3", strong body, sm C's

Offered Nana, but asked for Kitty and Angie smiled.
Had to wait for her as others were bumped ahead of me (held a blanket up as they passed; we laughed each time).
My time comes and as Kitty takes my hand for our walk, she said she hoped we would get together (she has braces now; very cute).
What follows was a visit on par, if not better, than any I've had here (again search my reviews for my Kitty review for details).
My finish, which I anticipated/expected to be uninspiring (due to my previous 'experiences'), was anything but.
Kitty even mentioned the quantity of my 'expulsion'.
I then proceeded to tell her about my nights 'activities' and she laughed/told me I should work in her 'field'.
She also told me next time I wanted to have a MSOG night, I should schedule with her (if she's there); "We work something out, Honey".
Along with being incredibly sexy and beautiful, she is very cool.
I enjoy the shit out of her!!

As I was driving home, all I could think about was a poster on another board who went to various stripclubs/ OS (where he negotiated then refused 'B'), never did partake, then wrote a nice review of the drinks served.
Hope my escapade offered slightly more insight than his.

More to follow,

J

Can anyone offer advice on Tara at the happybodyrubs? For a long time, I saw the picture, said "that's a dude" and passed. I don't want that kind of surprise. Could anybody PM details of a visit you had. Thanks
-BL

[QUOTE=Badlarry76]Can anyone offer advice on Tara at the happybodyrubs? For a long time, I saw the picture, said "that's a dude" and passed. I don't want that kind of surprise. Could anybody PM details of a visit you had. Thanks

BL[/QUOTE]Hi,

Tara(h) is not a guy. She's a (at least) late 40's woman. I first met her about 5 years ago when she was with RSG, and she wasn't bad.

I last saw her about 18-24 months ago and wondered to myself "why did I bother" as I left. Donation was reasonable as I recall, but it was a rush job with not enthusiasm on her part. I haven't been back.

[QUOTE=Jhonny8770]Having just left my Yoyo experience, I'm sitting in my truck wishing I used my big head, saved $10 (coup) and went to OS.

Not to mention dropping some out-of-my-norm coin (as well as 2 sack-filling shots) has me unhappy in the interim, but reflection on my earlier escapades with VL jolts me back to reality (even contemplated calling her for another session, but I knew she was tired/probably asleep).

What's the solution to all that ails me/you, you ask?!

Yes, Atwells Ave exit is indeed the answer.

So, that calls for yet another ATM trip (reminds me of a time I had another 'habit' that caused me to hit ATM's multiple times, late at night).

A quick drive has me climbing up to see these lovely ladies yet again (and I was not to be disappointed).

Door opens and Angie is waiting with chair in hand (I'm in line, Jesus it's past midnight on Tuesday).

Quick conversation and she's stopping others in the outer area; then more outside the door.

Next moment Kitty comes around the corner (YES!) in all her glory and remembers me (big kiss/hug).

A moment later she disappears and what follows is a procession of the girls (every few minutes) individually for a M&G (anyone else experience this?).

All were high 8's/9's in the looks dept; brief description below:

Nana- short hair, strong bodied 5 ft, w/ B/sm C's

Tiffany- shoulder length brown hair, 5'3", perfect w/ B's

Shishi (I think)- same as Tiffany

Stephanie- shoulder length, 5'3", strong body, sm C's

Offered Nana, but asked for Kitty and Angie smiled.

Had to wait for her as others were bumped ahead of me (held a blanket up as they passed; we laughed each time).

My time comes and as Kitty takes my hand for our walk, she said she hoped we would get together (she has braces now; very cute).

What follows was a visit on par, if not better, than any I've had here (again search my reviews for my Kitty review for details).

My finish, which I anticipated/expected to be uninspiring (due to my previous 'experiences'), was anything but.

Kitty even mentioned the quantity of my 'expulsion'.

I then proceeded to tell her about my nights 'activities' and she laughed/told me I should work in her 'field'.

She also told me next time I wanted to have a MSOG night, I should schedule with her (if she's there); "We work something out, Honey".

Along with being incredibly sexy and beautiful, she is very cool.

I enjoy the shit out of her!

As I was driving home, all I could think about was a poster on another board who went to various stripclubs/ OS (where he negotiated then refused 'B'), never did partake, then wrote a nice review of the drinks served.

Hope my escapade offered slightly more insight than his.

More to follow,

J[/QUOTE]It is good to see some pre-hysteria type posts again. Thanks for the contributions J, you certainly made my morning read a little more interesting haha. Keep up the good work.

Happy Mongering.

Uncle Tug

Went to the pp today not a lot of girl's mostly dark skinned which I don't really care for. Started talking to Isis and we talked about getting a booth however she was so drunk off her ass that she goes to the bathroom grt's out and goes to talk glto some other trick. I left with the blue balls

Is this the strip club? Not sure what it is doing in the massage forum?

Jack

Went to OS a couple weeks ago, drew "Panny" (got the spelling from a little name sticker on her bottle of you-know-what, anyone else ever notice this?). Won't get into too many details but very good service, no discernible difference from the previous Golden Era.

There does not seem to be any recent reviews on this place, so I thought I should visit and report in.

Rang bell, Angel answered the door and brought me inside to a room and collected house money. Asked if I wanted a shower, I said of course. TS was too rushed and too brief with almost no teasing. Back to the room, indicated I prefer a soft massage with lots of touching and teasing. She has a nice touch and there was lots of teasing. The massage itself was mechanical and had little imagination. At the flip, I got up and lifted her blouse and bra and did some fondling and sucking. Then lowered her panties (she was wearing a short dress) and did a little licking and fingering of her kitty. Then back onto the table for a HE. HJ was decent, but she stopped as soon as I did. Much prefer those who keep going for a while to complete the job. Hot cloth clean up, completed the massage (although she was 15 minutes short of the hour), and proceeded to remake the bed while I dressed. I offered $40 for a tip and she complained. I added another 10 and she still complained. I told her that was all I felt the visit was worth. She was not happy, but I feel that is what she earned compared to what other girls do and how they do it. I have gone as high as $80 for a tip for a HJ if all the rest of the service deserved it. I would return, but there are lots of other places to also choose from in the area.

Angel is probably late 30s, slim, A cup.

I liked your report on a place that hasn't been reviewed that often. What really blows me away is how management in MPs just don't communicate and emphasize to the girls it's all about QoS (quality-of-service). If each and every girl "makes it personal" like each massage is their one and only for that day the client will be wanting more, tip better, return, report (this forum), more visitors, etc.

I realize that it's not an even playing field and some places are just networked better, but let's say Wank-suck blew it away with each and every customer. In no time at all this place would be rocking. Instead, we've got Mr. Ole Papa reporting back the place bites. OP doesn't go back, we don't go, girl gets lower than expected tip (her perception), etc.

I can honestly say my best experiences have all been about girls I've felt a connection to. Where I didn't sense girl wasn't just 'doing a job', like I was part of a queue or something. Anyway, enough rant and thanks OP for the report.

[QUOTE=Olepapa]There does not seem to be any recent reviews on this place, so I thought I should visit and report in.

Rang bell, Angel answered the door and brought me inside to a room and collected house money. Asked if I wanted a shower, I said of course. TS was too rushed and too brief with almost no teasing. Back to the room, indicated I prefer a soft massage with lots of touching and teasing. She has a nice touch and there was lots of teasing. The massage itself was mechanical and had little imagination. At the flip, I got up and lifted her blouse and bra and did some fondling and sucking. Then lowered her panties (she was wearing a short dress) and did a little licking and fingering of her kitty. Then back onto the table for a HE. HJ was decent, but she stopped as soon as I did. Much prefer those who keep going for a while to complete the job. Hot cloth clean up, completed the massage (although she was 15 minutes short of the hour), and proceeded to remake the bed while I dressed. I offered $40 for a tip and she complained. I added another 10 and she still complained. I told her that was all I felt the visit was worth. She was not happy, but I feel that is what she earned compared to what other girls do and how they do it. I have gone as high as $80 for a tip for a HJ if all the rest of the service deserved it. I would return, but there are lots of other places to also choose from in the area.

Angel is probably late 30s, slim, A cup.[/QUOTE]

I visit Wanskuck upon occasion, mostly because of the location. I would throw out something I learned from dealing with the girls there. I have found most of the time, if you are firm with what you want, you can get it. I have always told the girls, when asked about a TS, "I want a long one, I could stay in there the whole visit", after the flip, if I think I want longer, I'll just ask, most of the girls have been OK with that.
In the room, I also wait longer before flipping, ask for more teasing, or just get up on the hands and knees, again it makes the experience better. In the end, there is nothing like finding a girl who does it mostly right the first time, by the 3rd visit, you have her trained just right. Or is it, she has you trained? Either way, just laying there and watching how it goes is one way to experience an AMP, or taking a more active role in enjoying your appointment ensures you'll get closer to what you want.
As compared to Lily, clothes do come off for an extra 10 to 20$, and FS is usually available, I just am not so inclined most of the time. I think this info is pretty generic to AMP's all over the country.




[QUOTE=Olepapa]There does not seem to be any recent reviews on this place, so I thought I should visit and report in.

Rang bell, Angel answered the door and brought me inside to a room and collected house money. Asked if I wanted a shower, I said of course. TS was too rushed and too brief with almost no teasing. Back to the room, indicated I prefer a soft massage with lots of touching and teasing. She has a nice touch and there was lots of teasing. The massage itself was mechanical and had little imagination. At the flip, I got up and lifted her blouse and bra and did some fondling and sucking. Then lowered her panties (she was wearing a short dress) and did a little licking and fingering of her kitty. Then back onto the table for a HE. HJ was decent, but she stopped as soon as I did. Much prefer those who keep going for a while to complete the job. Hot cloth clean up, completed the massage (although she was 15 minutes short of the hour), and proceeded to remake the bed while I dressed. I offered $40 for a tip and she complained. I added another 10 and she still complained. I told her that was all I felt the visit was worth. She was not happy, but I feel that is what she earned compared to what other girls do and how they do it. I have gone as high as $80 for a tip for a HJ if all the rest of the service deserved it. I would return, but there are lots of other places to also choose from in the area.

Angel is probably late 30s, slim, A cup.[/QUOTE]

Visited today and drew Apple. Nice body, DD real, sweet ass.

The massage was incredible. Hard the way I like it. Left happy.

I shall return yet once again. I like this place.

60/100

This thread has always been busy , I know the action has slowed down, but we never go two days without a post. Did I kill this thread?

[QUOTE=Iamme Iam]This thread has always been busy , I know the action has slowed down, but we never go two days without a post. Did I kill this thread?[/QUOTE]

I agree that the number of postings has hit rock bottom. Now I understand why to a degree with the whole loophole thing. But...while I'm sure that business is down considerably (I haven't gone to RI for one) I'm sure that there are some visits going on. I hope that all the posters aren't posting for fear of getting snarled one way or another. And I'm sure some of the indie massage providers have asked that their clients not provide as much info as before (if any)
This is the time that we need info more than ever. While the usual amp's are still stable (same number, location ect) I'm guessing that the indie MP's and escorts are changing names, numbers and locations more often and posting less. This makes this board instrumental in leeping track of our favorite providers. So let's hear from everyone.
For one...waht places are still open?? I know for one that Alice packed up and left but how about any of the other 25 places that used to be around. Maybe gents could at least call their fav AMP's and see if they are still open. SO

[QUOTE=Stressed Out]I agree that the number of postings has hit rock bottom. Now I understand why to a degree with the whole loophole thing. But. While I'm sure that business is down considerably (I haven't gone to RI for one) I'm sure that there are some visits going on. I hope that all the posters aren't posting for fear of getting snarled one way or another. And I'm sure some of the indie massage providers have asked that their clients not provide as much info as before (if any)

This is the time that we need info more than ever. While the usual AMP's are still stable (same number, location ect) I'm guessing that the indie MP's and escorts are changing names, numbers and locations more often and posting less. This makes this board instrumental in leeping track of our favorite providers. So let's hear from everyone.

For one. Waht places are still open? I know for one that Alice packed up and left but how about any of the other 25 places that used to be around. Maybe gents could at least call their fav AMP's and see if they are still open. SO[/QUOTE]I think this is an excellent idea, that our friend SO has suggested, for everyone to identify which AMPs are still in operation. From my own personal experience after the closing of the "loophole" I know that both Lilly's Spa and One Spa are still going strong. Also, from recent posts it appears that Wanskunk Wellness Center and Central Health are also still up and running.

There have been some abbreviations of visited AMPs on here recently that I don't believe I've seen before, which have me slightly confused. Perhaps they are new? The most recent of which that I saw a review of was "Fe, " which I do not recognize or maybe this is a provider's name?

All mongers with up-to-date info on other AMPs please add to the list.

Uncle Tug

While I agree the flow of info needs to continue, we don't want our stagnant-addressed ladies to suffer the indignations of chrome-plated wrist jewelry and small sleeping quarters with the likes of Melanie Shapiro/Dr. Donna Hughes telling them they're cute.
I, for one, wish/hope my fav playgrounds stay 'solvent'.

My thoughts are:
-Limit/omit the mention of establishment names/addresses; easy fix, use the abbreviations everyone knows.
-No mention of $ ('standard grat'); everyone knows how much FS/ R&T grats are.
-'Standard visit/service', mama/providers attitude/looks and new girls info are more than enough without giving Uncle LEo ammunition.

Didn't follow my own advice for recent CH post, but OS post looks like what I'm proposing.
While all (including LEo) know what's happening, we don't need to continually rub their noses in it.
Thanks to the Shapiro/Hughes tag-team, this site is very well-known.

And the 2 post noob questions (where, how much, etc.) need to be answered with - RTFF/contribute.

Whadyathink?

J

[QUOTE=Tuglover1]I think this is an excellent idea, that our friend SO has suggested, for everyone to identify which AMPs are still in operation. From my own personal experience after the closing of the "loophole" I know that both Lilly's Spa and One Spa are still going strong. Also, from recent posts it appears that Wanskunk Wellness Center and Central Health are also still up and running.

There have been some abbreviations of visited AMPs on here recently that I don't believe I've seen before, which have me slightly confused. Perhaps they are new? The most recent of which that I saw a review of was "Fe, " which I do not recognize or maybe this is a provider's name?

All mongers with up-to-date info on other AMPs please add to the list.

Uncle Tug[/QUOTE]Recent trips to pleasant and review not too long ago.

For brevity sake worth the trip seeing Gina.

[QUOTE=Cimfan]Visited today and drew Apple. Nice body, DD real, sweet ass.

The massage was incredible. Hard the way I like it. Left happy.

I shall return yet once again. I like this place.

60/100[/QUOTE]
FE became my favorite as One just seemed to turn into a factory. Too bad, as One was awesome early on.

Then "they" changed the rules...

[QUOTE=Jhonny8770]While I agree the flow of info needs to continue, we don't want our stagnant-addressed ladies to suffer the indignations of chrome-plated wrist jewelry and small sleeping quarters with the likes of Melanie Shapiro/Dr. Donna Hughes telling them they're cute.
I, for one, wish/hope my fav playgrounds stay 'solvent'.

My thoughts are:
-Limit/omit the mention of establishment names/addresses; easy fix, use the abbreviations everyone knows.
-No mention of $ ('standard grat'); everyone knows how much FS/ R&T grats are.
-'Standard visit/service', mama/providers attitude/looks and new girls info are more than enough without giving Uncle LEo ammunition.

Didn't follow my own advice for recent CH post, but OS post looks like what I'm proposing.
While all (including LEo) know what's happening, we don't need to continually rub their noses in it.
Thanks to the Shapiro/Hughes tag-team, this site is very well-known.

And the 2 post noob questions (where, how much, etc.) need to be answered with - RTFF/contribute.

Whadyathink?

J[/QUOTE]


I agree...the places (amps and aamps) that often appear on these pages we just need to keep up to date on any changes. I'm thinking....shortage of girls who show up (why is CH seemingly closed at times), quality of the girls (those 'not so demanded' may be more inclined to make a visit and take a chance than those lookers who can work anywhere), whether any of the places hace morphed into R and T rather than FS (ex-seems like Pleasant is one) ect. We had a nice google map showing at least 20 of them (which is now gone evidently) and these are the ones I'm thinking of. For instance we know Alice packed up and left but 236 Broadway is still advertising. And yes we can use abv for these as you suggested as most know of them although
as you said LE knows and will hit them regardless of what we write.
My intent on these pages and on the escort forum are those who aren't amps or aamps. They are still around but adv less and changing numbers more frequently. I was looking for a reg who had seemingly disappeared but I found an obscure ad for her in another place. While we need to be wary of too much info certainly we are bright enough to let people know they are still around without endangering them.
As far as NOOBS I'm not giving any info to those I don't know well and have posted a visit that I can verify through a personal visit or someone else I know who has seen them. I realize it is tough to be coming into this hobby right now but thems the breaks!

As of 2 weeks ago, NMS was business as usual.

hey guys-

was in prov last week and had a rental car, but damn co-worker who is local insisted on driving me around. He took me to some restaurant on Atwells and i saw the street One Spa is on. Actually I saw the dunkin donuts and realized where I was. it looks like between that corner and the parking lot there are 2 or 3 doors. Which one is for OS?

And where do you park? I saw a few cars angle parked facing the highway

tia

Just park in one of those angle spots and walk from the rear of your vehicle across the st and walk through that door and straight in, go to the elevator, push the up button go to the third floor, walk straight out of the elevator and the door for One will be on your left , if my recent memory serves me correctly. Once inside, I would ask for Kitty.

Push it and then look at the inspection certificate. As of two weeks ago it was last inspected in 2004. That means either the landlord breaks all kind of laws until he gets busted, or he's plugged in enough to not worry about no inspectors with no stinkin' badges. From what I've heard of RI I would bet on the latter.

Went by NM last night before heading home. Place was busy had to wait about 15 mins (good for them). Sarah came in for my TS which was a 6 out of 10. She was very friendly but hardly spoke any english. I would say she was late 30's nice body but very well covered up. Asked if I was here before and tried making small talk. Did my best to anwser back but it was hard to understand her. Body rub was very nice she knew what she was doing. Did the flip and not once was asked for any additional services. But the rest of the body rub was, let's say, relaxing. Another 10 mins on my back and I was done. Overall I would say I expected nothing more then I was offered. I can see why this place has be around so long. Good service with a smile.

[QUOTE=Crowhill]Push it and then look at the inspection certificate. As of two weeks ago it was last inspected in 2004. That means either the landlord breaks all kind of laws until he gets busted, or he's plugged in enough to not worry about no inspectors with no stinkin' badges. From what I've heard of RI I would bet on the latter.[/QUOTE]I would have to agree. From my understanding of Providence, it is one of the last places that is truly mafia owned and run. IMHO I think the closing of the "loophole" was nothing more than the state trying to save face and to get the likes of Donna Hughes and the rest of her feminazi brigade off their backs. As we have seen, there have been absolutely no raids involving AMPs since the new law was passed. The only people that have been busted have been independent providers and the mongers that attempted to use their services. I'm assuming they targeted these people because organized crime was not involved and not making any money from it, and therefore no one else was (I. E. Uncle LEO, receiving "donations" to turn a blind eye). It appears to me that the Providence AMP scene is very well connected, ever seen the police stickers stuck on the front window of Lily's? I would be willing to bet that all the strip clubs, AMPs, and any other sexually oriented businesses within Providence are all owned by organized crime, regardless of who the publicly announced owner may B. I don't think there is any question that this is a very corrupt city. With the amount of money these places bring in and the industry as a whole, one can only imagine how many people are on the "payroll" behind the scenes (including cops and politicians). Even after a very publicly announced change in the law the AMP scene is still blatantly operating in plain sight. In my opinion, I don't think any of us need to worry about the AMP scene suddenly disappearing anytime soon. So get out there and enjoy it!

Happy Mongering

Uncle Tug

[QUOTE=Tuglover1]Even after a very publicly announced change in the law the AMP scene is still blatantly operating in plain sight. In my opinion, I don't think any of us need to worry about the AMP scene suddenly disappearing anytime soon. So get out there and enjoy it!

Happy Mongering

Uncle Tug[/QUOTE]Amen to that! Now if I can just get the time and excuse to get down. Even a good massage would be great. Regardless of the details posted in messages, these are 'massage' parlors and there is some theraputic benefit to our visits.

There is no good reason to call out anyone in RI or PVD. This type of post is not helpful regardless of your opinions about the establishment so please be careful in making inflammatory remarks that could come back to bite you and others.

Jack

[QUOTE=Kenn Jack]There is no good reason to call out anyone in RI or PVD. This type of post is not helpful regardless of your opinions about the establishment so please be careful in making inflammatory remarks that could come back to bite you and others.

Jack[/QUOTE]
I second that, KJ. Tug is just throwing logs on a fire; one that we wish would quietly burn out...

[QUOTE=Kenn Jack]There is no good reason to call out anyone in RI or PVD. This type of post is not helpful regardless of your opinions about the establishment so please be careful in making inflammatory remarks that could come back to bite you and others.

Jack[/QUOTE]Jack, I don't think I've made any statements that are anything other than the obvious. This has been a consistent debate on this forum over whether or not our posts and thoughts here are going to have some sort of influence in the "real world." I would have to lean towards the side of no. I'm not saying don't be careful and use good judgment when you are out in the field, but to think that a statement someone were to make on a forum such as this will somehow lead to ill repercussions in the street is nothing less than a foolish self inflated stroke of one's ego. We are not that important in the grand scheme of our beloved hobby. However, I do apologize to those, such as yourself, who are rubbed the wrong way when someone, like myself, places a realistic perspective on things. I do not mean to "call anyone out," as you said. I was simply trying to let former mongers, that have been turned away from the game, due to recent changes in said laws, to maybe reconsider what has happened and perhaps get out and have some fun, that's all. I find it rather interesting though that no one else has offered a similar view of the "organized crime" influence on the industry, other than the "sex trafficing" theories, at least as far back as I've read. Again, I apologize to anyone that thinks I'm somehow bringing bad karma to the sport.

Being a realist,

Uncle Tug

Gotta side with KJ and ND53 in this 'disagreement', Tug.

Everyone knows what's going on including the Soprano effect (in all cities).
Stating the obvious as well as building code 'indiscretions' (Crowhill) does not contribute, but can/may speed up their demise.
See man-hating Melanie Shapiro's thesis and its influence in 'loophole' closing.
What we say here does, in fact/print, bear weight.
(That b*tch hates me like <real> cock! The thought of her disdain for me makes me balls tingle, LOL.)

Comes back to the age-old arguement, "because you can scream 'fire' in a crowded theatre, should you"?

I've contributed to this forum/others since the new 'insanity' (to 2 established businesses) as have others who should (IMO, can) be trusted.
If our collective input is not enough to bring back the 'unsures', so be it.

Again I'll say, IMHO if we (the forum) continue to post as we did prior to 'Donna Hughes Agenda' (every post containing some form of $/services/stagnant addresses), LE will be forced by the repressed, right-wing/church do-gooders/man-haters/ratings-driven media to act.
True, they are operating 'in the open', but the fewer 'lights' on them, the further away their eventual fruition will be.

Discretion/smart posting will prolong everyone's (that thinks like us) 'happy ending'.

(sound you don't hear is me stepping down from my soapbox)

More to follow,
J

[QUOTE=Newday53]I second that, KJ. Tug is just throwing logs on a fire; one that we wish would quietly burn out...[/QUOTE]

I would like to put another scenario on the table. It was mentioned that it is the Sopranos that keeps the AMP's open. What if it's the mayor? If the LE start raiding the AMP's then they will need to start raiding the gay clubs too. These clubs are by far worse then the AMP's. If that happens where can mayor go on a Saturday night for fun.

[QUOTE=Shredded House]I would like to put another scenario on the table. It was mentioned that it is the Sopranos that keeps the AMP's open. What if it's the mayor? If the LE start raiding the AMP's then they will need to start raiding the gay clubs too. These clubs are by far worse then the AMP's. If that happens where can mayor go on a Saturday night for fun.[/QUOTE]Haha, excellent point SH. Perhaps there are even more influences at work than I had previously considered.

[QUOTE=Jhonny8770]

Discretion/smart posting will prolong everyone's (that thinks like us) 'happy ending'.

J[/QUOTE]

Totally agree with above.
Newbies should note that posts requesting explicit info will/should go unanswered , so IMHO don't bother. Unfortunatally, a bad time to get into the game.
But not insurmountable.

Also, careful who you trust on pms. Post #'s and senior status do not always equate to a trustwothy bud ( learned the hard way)

I , too, will now step down from my soapbox.

pwh

The law said the police were to submit a report on all arrests made to the GA on Jan 20th. The date came and went and the news reported nothing. No AMPs have closed, and I have heard that a new one is opening. I guess it is true that not much has changed.

Unfortunately, I also learned that lesson the hard way and it is very good advice!

[QUOTE=Pw Herman]Also, careful who you trust on pms. Post #'s and senior status do not always equate to a trustwothy bud ( learned the hard way)
pwh[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Donna Hughes]The law said the police were to submit a report on all arrests made to the GA on Jan 20th. The date came and went and the news reported nothing. No AMPs have closed, and I have heard that a new one is opening. I guess it is true that not much has changed.[/QUOTE]

I am not so sure about that. I early/mid January I read an article about a sting operation done in a Providence hotel against people who advertised on Craig's List. The police also did a reverse sting against the guys answering the ads using a police women as a decoy. Several men and women were arrested, and I think the article mentioned that several were from Mass. I thought it interesting that the first thing I read about, with regards to enforcement of the new law, was a Craig's list sting. There is an AMP not too far from city hall and the capital. Also, they said they wanted this law as a tool to fight trafficking but the first people they go after were consenting adults. Very interesting.

[QUOTE=Rebrobate218]I am not so sure about that. I early/mid January I read an article about a sting operation done in a Providence hotel against people who advertised on Craig's List. The police also did a reverse sting against the guys answering the adds using a police women as a decoy. Several men and women were arrested, and I think the article mentioned that several were from Mass. I thought it interesting that the first thing I read about, with regards to enforcement of the new law, was a Craig's list sting. There is an AMP not too far from city hall and the capital. Also, they said they wanted this law as a tool to fight trafficking but the first people they go after were consenting adults. Very interesting.[/QUOTE]If you refer back to my earlier post, which seemed to ruffle some monger feathers, about the now dubbed "Sopranos effect" I think my hypothesis may help to answer the question of why these poor folks were the first and only unlucky victims of the new law, to date (knock on wood if you're superstitious). Someone also made the suggestion that the Mayor's "sexual preferences" may also have a direct connection to what is at question.

Uncle Tug

Tug, I went back and reviewed your previous post and cannot figure out what the dust up was about. It is commonknowledge that Mafia activity in almost all of New England is run out of Providence. Providence College named a building after a sitting Mafia Boss (Raymond Hall). You can make jokes about the mayors sexuality which I think is incorrect. At a gay club you are not paying for a service you are paying to be in the club. The state may say it is illegal for moral grounds or there is open intercourse going on in the club. At an AMP you are paying for a service which may be a ruse to pay for sex. It both cases the state has no business butting in IMHO. In a state that is almost bankrupt which had double double digit unemployment even in the good times you'ld think they have better things to do. You were right in that making it illegal takes away a source of embarresment for the state and local pols. You were right in that the cops pretty much know everything that is going on and choose what they will enforce for reasons of curruption, lack of resources, etc. Wrting about it here ain't going to change anything. They will raid a spa eventually when they or some politician needs the possitive press coverage.

Struck out at the SC's, no joy at CD or CL, so I decided to do a quick stop at CH.

An old favorite Connie is back, but I met a new spinner BB.

Maybe 5'1, definitely not 110#, waist probably about 22 inches, nice manmade C cups.

Efficient but thorough table shower, and standard FS for the Standard tip.

Recommended for those who like tiny Korean girls.

Be good.