Arrangement Reports

[QUOTE=RobertWi69;4420116]Messaged this one just straight out asking if she does anything on a pay per meet basis. Her exact response "I'm open to that! Would you like to text?" Followed that up with "(262) 236-XXXX Kate". Sent a text 10 minutes ago, nothing back yet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/138a2e55-05b4-4832-ae50-53138387d1e1[/URL][/QUOTE]I would be interested in the follow thru and would not be boring to me, however educational. Thank you rw. Most appreciative. Just as a learning point for me I read her little bio and it definitely is an indicator of the path you are following. I guess another thing would be how this all works once involved. I mean I would imagine you can't just say oh I have others interested in you as well. I mean I know the answer to that, however if indeed this person is a pro I don't see an issue if things move along safely and a gentleman. Course knowing nothing about this I may be completely off base.

I arranged to meet her for lunch a few weeks ago and she never showed. I didn't bother to ask why, just moved on to the next one.

[QUOTE=RobertWi69;4420116]Messaged this one just straight out asking if she does anything on a pay per meet basis. Her exact response "I'm open to that! Would you like to text?" Followed that up with "(262) 236-XXXX Kate". Sent a text 10 minutes ago, nothing back yet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/138a2e55-05b4-4832-ae50-53138387d1e1[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BeNewAgain;4418700]You know a great way to find these girls other than SA, and for free is through dating apps then Instagram. What I do is have a profile on both Tinder and Bumble. [/QUOTE]That sounds like a lot of work. Don't see why it would be necessary. Just for grins this week I decided to try for 5 girls in 5 days and I just nailed the 5th one. Met all on SA, only gave PPM to one of them, all did BBFS. It's totally possible to do it on SA if you are willing to work the numbers.

[QUOTE=SNeed12;4420330]That sounds like a lot of work. Don't see why it would be necessary. Just for grins this week I decided to try for 5 girls in 5 days and I just nailed the 5th one. Met all on SA, only gave PPM to one of them, all did BBFS. It's totally possible to do it on SA if you are willing to work the numbers.[/QUOTE]Anything is possible, you have to be patient with some of the ladies. I've been offered everything from BBFS all day on video for free and 1000 for CBJ no touching (obviously I didn't buy). Your mileage may vary, and realize that the girls are getting inundated with 50-100 messages per day so you may not be the right key for their lock on any given day. Keep mining and you will strike gold.

[QUOTE=Shorty58;4420595]Anything is possible, you have to be patient with some of the ladies. I've been offered everything from BBFS all day on video for free and 1000 for CBJ no touching (obviously I didn't buy). Your mileage may vary, and realize that the girls are getting inundated with 50-100 messages per day so you may not be the right key for their lock on any given day. Keep mining and you will strike gold.[/QUOTE]So the numbers are that high in messages the women would be getting. Now it all starts to make sense. Question for you pros that have been working this. I mean how do I put this. People that participate in this on both sides are looking for some sort of angle, correct? Meaning this isn't exactly a website similar to the known advertised ones on tv, et al that are people actually trying to meet for an actual legitimate relationship. Forgive my naivete and I am in no way being coy or sarcastic. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Wolves432;4417620]The last one you listed is pretty real. Talked with her before and she wants 300 per meet. You can probably get her closer to 250.[/QUOTE]I just talked to SweetDee11 and she didn't want to go below 350 per meet, plus hotel. Not worth it from what I hear. Much fatter in person.

[QUOTE=RobertWi69;4420116]Messaged this one just straight out asking if she does anything on a pay per meet basis. Her exact response "I'm open to that! Would you like to text?" Followed that up with "(262) 236-XXXX Kate". Sent a text 10 minutes ago, nothing back yet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/138a2e55-05b4-4832-ae50-53138387d1e1[/URL][/QUOTE]So, during the course of 5 hours texting (during which she sent 8 texts) I learned that she lives in Oak Park and doesn't drive but will Uber anywhere, asking for $350 (asked 'can you do' is not into anal and everything would be covered, at least at first. Also made it sound as if she was willing to just hang out before and after, if I wanted. Also seems very fake in that most sentences ended with an exclamation point!

I'm going to pass, seems like a time-waster, also based on what others said.

[QUOTE=DynoJr;4414254]She's a pro. Can't find her link right now but has some very kinky pics.[/QUOTE]She finally got back to me today from Monday. Said "Hi, just seeing this" and sent a picture. Doesn't seem like it would be a very personable relationship with her, if I could afford her. Pass.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a8fc670-38d4-4698-af99-ebde2b5b5435[/URL]

[QUOTE=Zimbler;4420790]I just talked to SweetDee11 and she didn't want to go below 350 per meet, plus hotel. Not worth it from what I hear. Much fatter in person.[/QUOTE]Seems like there are a ton of girls that have increased their price recently. Most of them aren't even worth half of what they want.

This short, fat, ugly 50 years old asian guy is trying to score some young pussy again, in the process of set up an time and place FC, not sure will score or not, probably 30-40% chance, any info would help, will see, they both agree to meet for fucking but who knows, means nothing until I am BBFS them in my bed. To be continue.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ca33e7d6-26e5-4883-82be-4f13bc9ee22d[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4f691c38-d80c-4130-8321-216d39b5a2a8[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pal5600;4420971]This short, fat, ugly 50 years old asian guy is trying to score some young pussy again, in the process of set up an time and place FC, not sure will score or not, probably 30-40% chance, any info would help, will see, they both agree to meet for fucking but who knows, means nothing until I am BBFS them in my bed. To be continue.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ca33e7d6-26e5-4883-82be-4f13bc9ee22d[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4f691c38-d80c-4130-8321-216d39b5a2a8[/URL][/QUOTE]What's username of first link? I think I am blocked by that one.

I see a lots of these young college coed said they want to try new things, really, would fucking a fat, old ugly asian guy is trying new thing, I wonder, maybe I should ask them that.

[QUOTE=Eternalchaoz;4420987]What's username of first link? I think I am blocked by that one.[/QUOTE]Agoodtimmee.

This one message me out of the blue, not my cup of tea, but maybe your, go for it if you like.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/375d5284-e8c9-46c4-9c3b-036bfd12c0c9[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e89b73c0-cf78-44c2-8cce-9cb9967fbc9f[/URL]

Chat with this one, she seems dtf, but have not move to text yet, will see guys, maybe 50/50. Her private pic look like college coed looking for a good time

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c5a44063-51dd-4399-aad9-f47c17dea1e6[/URL]

This one message me, she seems dtf but I really not sure about her body, 50% good and 50% not good, the angel on her pic. Don't really show much, not sure if I will go for it or not, if you like her pic go for it.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ba386e02-09de-11d3-3332-0112c58d0d70[/URL]

Chat with this one, she is dtf, anyone meet her, she seems very doable to me, that maybe her current or ex boyfriend on pic. But who knows or care. she is 5'10" tho, maybe she dreaming about a 5'2" fat, old ugly asian guy, hahaha probably not, will see tho

Does this situation sound like I'm a little to cautious?

I start talking to a 25 yr old with several pics posted, all public, all with some sort of filter. Still she seems to have a look I like so I don't think much about it.

By the way this is in southern Illinois, basically St. Louis and I tell her I'm here for just a couple days and would she be interested in a short term thing.

She responds to my first message quickly and she says she is interested, no names exchanged, she doesn't ask for a pic, she doesn't get into any $$ talk. I give her my free text number and we start chatting there briefly with me ending it by saying I'll text her on Friday when I get into town.

I text her she says she's up for a meet. I ask if she wants to meet in public first or just hang at the hotel. She doesn't care. We agree on 8 pm at a public location. She then asks if I have a car. I do. She then asks if I can either pick her up or Uber her. I decide on pick up. Probably a bad idea. I tell her I'll text when I'm on the way. When I do she asks "can you leave in 15 minutes so I can get my sitter here". I say okay. 10 minutes later she texts asking if I can pick her up at her sitters house about a block away from her house. She is supposedly now dropping of her kid at the sitter instead of her sitter coming to her.

I decided that it was a little to sketchy for me. No name exchange, she didn't ask for a pic, she never brought up $$, she gave the impression she would come to me and then changed her story, she kept tweaking the pick up time and location.

Am I too paranoid?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1edcac94-4a6d-48e2-9bdb-281ac2e55dc3[/URL]

https://www.seeking.com/member/6b61758d-7a40-48f2-aaa9-c2cc4ded6da8

Man, these two give me a boner, those got to be 34 D natural on a slim 18 years old girls, I need to go back to college now, haha.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c6ec73e7-7d1a-4ab1-a5da-60e8f0c243ad[/URL]

Something doesn't seem right.

[QUOTE=Eternalchaoz;4420987]What's username of first link? I think I am blocked by that one.[/QUOTE]Her username is "agoodtimmee". 22, white, 5'1. Hope it helps.

[QUOTE=Pal5600;4421020][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ba386e02-09de-11d3-3332-0112c58d0d70[/URL]

Chat with this one, she is dtf, anyone meet her, she seems very doable to me, that maybe her current or ex boyfriend on pic. But who knows or care. she is 5'10" tho, maybe she dreaming about a 5'2" fat, old ugly asian guy, hahaha probably not, will see tho[/QUOTE]Got her to text fairly quickly, but she is not very responsive. Says she lives at home in the burbs while she job hunts in Houston where her dad's friends has real estate connections. LinkedIn revealed no Tori's or Victorias in the chicago area that went to Alabama anytime recently.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4421384]Got her to text fairly quickly, but she is not very responsive. Says she lives at home in the burbs while she job hunts in Houston where her dad's friends has real estate connections. LinkedIn revealed no Tori's or Victorias in the chicago area that went to Alabama anytime recently.[/QUOTE]That's not her real name, no one uses their real name on the site.

I met her, she really is 5'10".

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;4421248][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c6ec73e7-7d1a-4ab1-a5da-60e8f0c243ad[/URL]

Something doesn't seem right.[/QUOTE]Thank you!

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;4420655]So the numbers are that high in messages the women would be getting. Now it all starts to make sense. Question for you pros that have been working this. I mean how do I put this. People that participate in this on both sides are looking for some sort of angle, correct? Meaning this isn't exactly a website similar to the known advertised ones on tv, et al that are people actually trying to meet for an actual legitimate relationship. Forgive my naivete and I am in no way being coy or sarcastic. Thanks.[/QUOTE]This site has everything from innocent little girls (hopefully 18 but maybe not) to seasoned pros (I. E Jennifer Janes 61 year old Former pornstar). Many young ones don't know what they want, some think we'll rent them a condo downtown for dinner and conversation, some think they will find the "Pretty Woman" dream and travel the world with Richard Gere, many young ones are just wasting time seeing if guys will proposition them, some are so naive (like one I met) who was early 20's but naive as hell and fucked me three times for long afternoons (great skills) before asking me for anything all the while telling me that the last guy she met got into her bank account and cleaned her out, and some women here are looking for a real relationship with guys who aren't broke. There are many first time women who need money, and here are where the gems are, and will spend a romantic afternoon with you for 200-300 because they know the value of money and think 800-1200 a month from a nice guy who respects her and fucks her brains out is a good deal. The GPS and pros who want major money are the ones who are doing a bunch of guys for cash already and would rather find some sucker to pay 600-1200 than sleep with 6 guys for the same cash. I'm sure there are guys out there who will pay the big bucks and some guys who will gather up the young ones to their private island. My advice is look for who you like, stick to your budget (this can be addicting, it's like [URL]amazon.com[/URL] for pussy), and if your first choice doesn't take your offer, there are thousands of fish in this pond.

One other suggestion, after I posted some info and asked guys not to message me for more info, but several did. I told them that trading info too freely here could cost the traders some good pussy. The ones who aren't pros are trying to keep their activities secret as most of us are. There's no way I can share numbers of people I'm actively texting or meeting because they will freak out and ask you where you got their secret info you won't have a good way to explain so it will not get you anywhere and it will lead back to me and I will be left standing with blue balls. If there's a pro or someone asking to find more guys that's fine in my opinion. But I can't possibly share the info on the three gorgeous single moms who are keeping me happy lately. Be smart and think with the right head and you will have fun. I am.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c1699ae9-a5fe-4f26-a414-0facb001bb58[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/12f347e0-a6d2-4547-887a-9228727ec6cb[/URL]

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https://www.seeking.com/member/375d5284-e8c9-46c4-9c3b-036bfd12c0c9

https://www.seeking.com/member/a52de830-837e-64aa-99a0-21cf7424d171

these 5 message me, not my cup of tea, if you find them doable, go for it, they seems dtf

[QUOTE=Shorty58;4421532]This site has everything from innocent little girls (hopefully 18 but maybe not) to seasoned pros (I. E Jennifer Janes 61 year old Former pornstar). Many young ones don't know what they want, some think we'll rent them a condo downtown for dinner and conversation, some think they will find the "Pretty Woman" dream and travel the world with Richard Gere, many young ones are just wasting time seeing if guys will proposition them, some are so naive (like one I met) who was early 20's but naive as hell and fucked me three times for long afternoons (great skills) before asking me for anything all the while telling me that the last guy she met got into her bank account and cleaned her out, and some women here are looking for a real relationship with guys who aren't broke. There are many first time women who need money, and here are where the gems are, and will spend a romantic afternoon with you for 200-300 because they know the value of money and think 800-1200 a month from a nice guy who respects her and fucks her brains out is a good deal. The GPS and pros who want major money are the ones who are doing a bunch of guys for cash already and would rather find some sucker to pay 600-1200 than sleep with 6 guys for the same cash. I'm sure there are guys out there who will pay the big bucks and some guys who will gather up the young ones to their private island. My advice is look for who you like, stick to your budget (this can be addicting, it's like [URL]amazon.com[/URL] for pussy), and if your first choice doesn't take your offer, there are thousands of fish in this pond.[/QUOTE]Well said. To add a few points:

* Know your own limits and limitations. If you're attached, fully employed, with only access to carefully allocated 'fun money', then you need to tailor your search and negotation strategy to those constraints. There's no point in pursuing girls stuck on ideas like overnights, weekends, and large fixed monthly allowances. Find ones that will do reasonable PPM and have flexible schedules. That may slant you towards more of the semi-pros, but there's still better quality and variety of those on SA than anwhere else right now.

* Analyze what you can on their profiles to try to figure out their degree of 'realness'. You want to see a bunch of crappy selfies. Slick, posed, colorful photos in upscale mansions or high-end vacation locations are either fake or scream pro. Google their SA username. You'll be surprised how many use the same names on instagram, twitter, snapchat, etc.

* Communicate your budget confidently and without getting engaged in an emotional back and forth. Many will be more open minded if they think you'll be a regular companion, versus feeling like they're settling for a bargain one and done meetup. If they react rudely to an offer, just break off contact and move on. It wasn't going to work anyway.

* A simple, not paid, meet and greet is a great facilitator to the above point. Wait if possible to pin down a price until after they've had coffee with a 'nice guy' and they're a little bit disarmed. Anyone willing to go directly to a paid BCD session without meeting is at least a semi pro no matter what they call themselves. Anyone asking for money for a simple meet and greet is not what you're looking for.

* Look at their profile history and expect easier negotiations the longer they've been on. The exception is ones who've been on for years. Then they're probably pros or lifestyle SBs with a set price menu already. But for the 'regular' girls you may sometimes have to wait for their initial high expectations to come down to earth. They join up after reading stories on blogs and expect drinks at sunset on a yacht with George Clooney after a few emails. After a few weeks of offers of lunch hours in a Red Roof with George Costanza they'll be much more willing to meet somewhere in the middle!

[QUOTE=FafaFooey;4421661]Well said. To add a few points:

* Know your own limits and limitations. If you're attached, fully employed, with only access to carefully allocated 'fun money', then you need to tailor your search and negotation strategy to those constraints. There's no point in pursuing girls stuck on ideas like overnights, weekends, and large fixed monthly allowances. Find ones that will do reasonable PPM and have flexible schedules. That may slant you towards more of the semi-pros, but there's still better quality and variety of those on SA than anwhere else right now.

* Analyze what you can on their profiles to try to figure out their degree of 'realness'. You want to see a bunch of crappy selfies. Slick, posed, colorful photos in upscale mansions or high-end vacation locations are either fake or scream pro. Google their SA username. You'll be surprised how many use the same names on instagram, twitter, snapchat, etc.

* Communicate your budget confidently and without getting engaged in an emotional back and forth. Many will be more open minded if they think you'll be a regular companion, versus feeling like they're settling for a bargain one and done meetup. If they react rudely to an offer, just break off contact and move on. It wasn't going to work anyway.

* A simple, not paid, meet and greet is a great facilitator to the above point. Wait if possible to pin down a price until after they've had coffee with a 'nice guy' and they're a little bit disarmed. Anyone willing to go directly to a paid BCD session without meeting is at least a semi pro no matter what they call themselves. Anyone asking for money for a simple meet and greet is not what you're looking for.

* Look at their profile history and expect easier negotiations the longer they've been on. The exception is ones who've been on for years. Then they're probably pros or lifestyle SBs with a set price menu already. But for the 'regular' girls you may sometimes have to wait for their initial high expectations to come down to earth. They join up after reading stories on blogs and expect drinks at sunset on a yacht with George Clooney after a few emails. After a few weeks of offers of lunch hours in a Red Roof with George Costanza they'll be much more willing to meet somewhere in the middle![/QUOTE]To have a decent success rate is to make them feel comfortable. The real ones, not the pros, do not ever want to think of themselves as hookers. They want to feel comfortable and secure. For most of my successes the $ was secondary to being a nice guy. I don't think there is a hard and fast rule though about a meet up first. I probably had 30% that just met up in the car outside the hotsheet place. Only two times did the meet not follow with an immediate naked experience. Both needed to decide I was ok and we met for sex a few days later.

Rather than asking them if they suck a bare dick I ask them if they like to kiss. I have just elevated myself from a creep to a lover. I'm in my mid-sixties and if I can get as much pussy as I have off of SA most guys should be able to. You are selling your skills as a lover not an ATM.

Randolph.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4421384]Got her to text fairly quickly, but she is not very responsive. Says she lives at home in the burbs while she job hunts in Houston where her dad's friends has real estate connections. LinkedIn revealed no Tori's or Victorias in the chicago area that went to Alabama anytime recently.[/QUOTE]So what's the intel?

Seems a common tale. Has 3 yo, been on the site two years.

Has real job, 9-5 ish and hot pics with no evident baby damage. Not looking for a regular guy -- like meeting married men for the thrill and lack of possible future -- but asking $500+ for an evening.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/474ffe50-cea9-4ef0-b2fb-d702e43b937c[/URL]

Wants $750/ meet. Came down to $450 eventually but I still declined.

Then she blew up. Saying she's better than all the rest, that girls charging less are fucking every guy on SA (somehow charging more makes her an angel? WTF) and you get what you pay for.

Then she starts throwing out all kinds of analogies like you can't get state of the art stuff at thrift store prices, that I have tons of money and the difference means nothing to me, yada yada.

That didn't work so she tried to age shame me too that she was getting $750 from a 28 year old guy and I should be thankful that she'd be with a late 40's guy for that same price rather than charging more because I'm older. Then she blocked me.

Her private pics are mostly face shots and clever poses to minimize her chubbiness but there's a couple shots where you can tell that she is clearly over weight. Body is super flabby, belly with rolls, badonkadonk flabby saggy ass. She lists as athletic on her profile but she hasn't seen the inside of a gym in years.

Goodgirl0213.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9784e46d-3801-4875-bfef-fa43352fe434[/URL]

You're welcome.

[QUOTE=PauFord;4422110]Wants $750/ meet. Came down to $450 eventually but I still declined.

Then she blew up. Saying she's better than all the rest, that girls charging less are fucking every guy on SA (somehow charging more makes her an angel? WTF) and you get what you pay for.

Then she starts throwing out all kinds of analogies like you can't get state of the art stuff at thrift store prices, that I have tons of money and the difference means nothing to me, yada yada.

That didn't work so she tried to age shame me too that she was getting $750 from a 28 year old guy and I should be thankful that she'd be with a late 40's guy for that same price rather than charging more because I'm older. Then she blocked me.

Her private pics are mostly face shots and clever poses to minimize her chubbiness but there's a couple shots where you can tell that she is clearly over weight. Body is super flabby, belly with rolls, badonkadonk flabby saggy ass. She lists as athletic on her profile but she hasn't seen the inside of a gym in years.

Goodgirl0213.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9784e46d-3801-4875-bfef-fa43352fe434[/URL]

You're welcome.[/QUOTE]WTF she is old and big / fat, she thinks she worth 450-750, I really will not do it for free, big mid 20 something message me everyday, here is another message me today, I will pass but if you guy like her, good for it [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e27eacbf-711f-44d6-9b1d-a22142591108[/URL] I do believe girls that message me first, mostly like is dtf because my profile said "nsa fwb only".

[QUOTE=Pal5600;4422167]WTF she is old and big / fat, she thinks she worth 450-750, I really will not do it for free, big mid 20 something message me everyday, here is another message me today, I will pass but if you guy like her, good for it [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e27eacbf-711f-44d6-9b1d-a22142591108[/URL] I do believe girls that message me first, mostly like is dtf because my profile said "nsa fwb only".[/QUOTE]They reached out to me too. Asking for 500 ppm for a duo session.

[QUOTE=Pal5600;4422167]WTF she is old and big / fat, she thinks she worth 450-750, I really will not do it for free, big mid 20 something message me everyday, here is another message me today, I will pass but if you guy like her, good for it [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e27eacbf-711f-44d6-9b1d-a22142591108[/URL] I do believe girls that message me first, mostly like is dtf because my profile said "nsa fwb only".[/QUOTE]They have seeking transgender listed. WTF?

Any info about this one greatly appreciated.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/275271bd-c616-4ba3-9604-3ff7c28cb232[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d14ed108-6df3-4c15-a6eb-82899ab1c897[/URL]

This one message me today, she is dtf but not my cup of tea, good for it, if she is your.

Here is my cup of tea, I had exchange few texts in the past but she was not dtf then, maybe now, who knows? Any info would help
https://www.seeking.com/member/388f47c3-7fd8-4562-bd7f-5096b85556a8

[QUOTE=Roctiggers;4422988]Any info about this one greatly appreciated.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/275271bd-c616-4ba3-9604-3ff7c28cb232[/URL][/QUOTE]Village bycicle. Everyone has had a ride. Wear protection. Has made a porn. Was in jail in Dubai for a few months.

Travels a lot so hard to make an appointment. Heavy drug user.

[QUOTE=Roctiggers;4422988]Any info about this one greatly appreciated.

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[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/007bfd87-4eb4-4c83-8fb8-687d2eda3956[/URL]

This one message me, I am not interested, buy maybe you are.